and i have seen way more promotions for NJ than any of the other groups besides BTS. so the fact that she is claiming NJ was neglected is absurd.

@MonkeyDLuffy-cy8bs

Ай бұрын

Before the debut,did u watchthe receipts?

Hybe was used, betrayed and almost robbed, and there are people who think they are the bad guys. It doesn’t make sense to me.

@MonkeyDLuffy-cy8bs

Ай бұрын

They are the bad guy, its not like all company are perfect, they are shit fckers who only cares for money, debuting all this young children to milk shts

If NJ thinks they are with MHJ, they can always terminate their contract with HYBE but they have got to pay Hybe quite a lot.

Hybe owns all the IP no matter what label it is that they OWN.

"issues and insiders" and min sunhee was a BIG disappointment this time. instead of tackling the main legal issue confronting min heejin's problem with ador's parent company hybe, you spent more time on side issues raised by min heejin, which obviously detracted from her possible economic crime. it was bad enough that your featured lawyer an junseong was not comfortable in english; it seemed his expertise did not also lie in business law, because his "breach of trust" examples WERE NOT apples to apples. he should have given examples of contracts, regulations, and litigation in a corporate shareholders' context -- there are probably many examples in chaebol enterprises -- to enlighten viewers why hybe took action against min heejin's aborted coup plans in ador. instead, he gave examples of artists trying to break their contracts with their agencies, which IS NOT the case in the conflict between hybe and min heejin. bernie cho also seemed to just parrot the PR spin being promoted by min heejin, not really providing any new "insider" perspective to the conflict between min heejin and hybe. "issues and insiders" could have done better if they got a business law expert and a banking/finance expert in mergers & acquisitions to discuss the issue between min heejin and hybe. this episode of "issues and insiders" was a WASTED OPPORTUNITY to provide an objective and insightful look into the dynamics of corporate shareholder conflict in korea.

@DA-sf3vs

7 күн бұрын

Bernie Cho perhaps paid k media as they all are

Sorry i wont buy anything min hee jin say or do cos she's slick, can see it clear

HYBE will present all evidence to the court and will fired this woman..she needs to go .internationals don't buy her shenanigans

After this, I don't think hybe will gonna prioritize new jeans in the future.

@hamlan7513

Ай бұрын

they will only become more miserable to other groups, especially to I'll it.

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

@@hamlan7513 new jeans will be fine as long as they stay quiet and let the legal team sort this out.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

Well, if they keep phoning the crazy woman crying and reassuring their support for her then no, Hybe will do nothing but shelf them until their contracts are done…or just sever their contracts right off the bat!

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

@@ArmantoAlex13 you have no idea if that's happening and unless they're stupid, they are now staying out of it. Like we should be.

They need to add the charges of sabotage, you can see what she she’s up to a mile away. Prison and hefty fines should be admitted on her ….

we hope that legal dispute between HYPE and Ador will be resolved in the near Future

I would say “alleged promises”. As manipulative as MHJ has been, and the way she has conferred so much with NJ, I wouldn’t be surprised if she has groomed them to lie. I do not trust this woman at all.

I don't want to be mean, but the lawyer is very hard to understand. I wantnto understand the legal side of this, but he is very hard to follow.

she tried to drag Bang and BTS into this mess, she has no shot. BS had nothing to do with this, and Bang hired her , trusted her, he left and she started all this. She's a snake. A talented snake, but a snake non the less. One of those manipulative woman who makes us all look bad.

@crystal2484

Ай бұрын

u won't be talking here had Hybe not gone to the news to publish it for u.

@jamietkh5862

Ай бұрын

Hello, trust is a 2-way channel. Heard of the term 'reciprocacity'?

@jamietkh5862

Ай бұрын

​@@crystal2484Spot on! 🎯🎯🎯

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

@@jamietkh5862 yes, and someone should inform her.

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

@@crystal2484 wasn't it her and her lawyer that called the press conference. also, legal matters and corporate law suits are public domain, so legally they had to publish as the press had access to it anyway. you must be a anti.

I question the quality of the content when there are spelling errors in the title. Hybe… not Hype.

This narrative that NJ’s concept was copied because both groups have 5 young girls with long hair and modern clothes is too much. All artists are starting their careers as early as possible, since it is a short career. Most groups have around 5 members. The vast majority of Korean girls have long dark hair - go outside and look around. That is not a very unique, never seen before, concept.

Parents have been gaslighted by MJH. It was HYBE that trained tbem. It was HYBE' s $18,000.000 given to Ador to promote them. It was HYBE that gave Ador and New Jeans the Top Floor of HYBE. New Jeans was given $5,000, 000 each after just one year. It's HYBEs group BTS they used during pre debut promotions by labeling themselves BTS'S "little sisters" and having New Jeans in BTS music video. They live in a glamorous 5 bedrooms apartment. Please these girls have been well taken care of HYBE as MJH has spent zero of her own dollars on developing and supporting the group.

@joanalumbo6043

Ай бұрын

Very well said😊

@Sakura-ko9gh

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@Sakura-ko9gh

Ай бұрын

@banamalimandal5312please improve ur English before commenting

@cruisingtheroad3903

Ай бұрын

It's funny how all these foreign hybe stans dont understand the language or know the whole story, but they have determined she's a witch and started burning her already. Its hybe who started this, not min. If hybe care so much about NJ, they would have started the process internally, quietly, and not started a media war right before their come back. Hybe started a media war and its blowing up right in their faces. Western world is down playing this but in korea its going all out against hybe. Korean Army placed a front page ad, sending funeral flowers, led displays, all chewing out hybe. To sum up the msg army sent was," stop using BTS as a sheild, do your job and protect the artist, Contract is nullified, we support BTS, Not Hybe, your media war is the cause of the problem, stop caring about money, stock prices and start caring abou the artist." Those that say its hybe who picked the girls and its hybes girls, LMFAO, Min hand picked them personally, only minji came from source music, rest came from audition and other places. Bang didn't even want to debut these girls, the reason Lessarafim came out. Since bang replaced New Jeans debut with lessarafim, MHJ faught to start Ador and New Jeans were able to debut. If you dont understand the language; Instead of stating false statements, park it in neutral and wait for the truth to be released. I see way too emotional statements trashing just 1 lady with no facts. Big corporate against 1 lady and so far 1 ladys kicking corporates butt. Look at hybes stock, people are siding with the lady and dumping hybes stock.✌️

@michaelmitchell7350

Ай бұрын

Facts

At least get it right. The is no company called HYPE the company is called HYBE. You can't even get the name of the company correct.

@crystal2484

Ай бұрын

They are literally dramatic (Hype) so it suits them. Moreover there is no such word as hybe, the company should learn English.

@emacarvalho7889

Ай бұрын

In Korean , B is spoken P. So while we say Hybe, they say Hype

@eileencritchley4630

Ай бұрын

@@crystal2484 HYBE is a company brand/ name. Just like Tesla, Unilever, Unipath, Lexus, or Vauxhall etc etc. So your comment is just nonsensical. I'm English but I don't go around telling people they have to name their companies with English words like some foolish ignorant person like yourself.

@lanaks8796

Ай бұрын

Они не должны ничего, учите коейский и не умнейчате​@@crystal2484

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@crystal2484That’s one of the most immature comments I’ve heard yet!!!! You clearly know nothing about business and creating names for a company. If you can’t say anything intelligent, it’s best you say nothing at all!

She is next level delulu and narcissist.

@michaelmitchell7350

Ай бұрын

The woman is claiming that she is in a slave contract 😂😂😂😂😂WHAT? She made more money that the CEO of HYBE did last year not to mention she owns 75 million dollars of shares for ADOR. No NEWJEANS can't claim slave contract either HYBE has taken very good care of them. After 1 year HYBE gave them 5 million per member and they have a luxury apartment already

The man in the suit and glasses does ramble on, doesn't he? I'm not sure he actually answers the questions 😂

@user-gr1gb8mz7d

Ай бұрын

Agree

@meaniesing

Ай бұрын

He did answered it.

No matter what happen WE the army’s are always behind our bangtan forever 💜💜💜

I DO NOT get the “copying” thing. Groups should focus on themselves and put out their best work instead of focusing on other groups. Of course there are going to be similarities. There were similarities between all the 80’s hair bands..there were similarities between Rock bands in the ‘60s. There were similarities among the Western boy bands. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. I have NEVER listened to group because if a concept.

I love how the lawyer just cannot suppress his laughter while discussing this whole shade-show 😂

Newjeans will be fine without min heejin.

@realINTERNETFRIEND

Ай бұрын

They will be corporate vibeslop

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@realINTERNETFRIENDOh, we have a fan from another agency’s fandom trolling the comments!!!

@agentlemon3164

Ай бұрын

@@realINTERNETFRIEND So no difference then?🤣 MHJ is also corporate vibeslop

WE NEED SUBTITLES TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE LAWYER’S COMMENTS PLEASE! ❤

@Taecoconut

Ай бұрын

There’s subs 😊

@Elektra9

Ай бұрын

​@@TaecoconutThey are auto-generated and full of errors.

MHJ is the only mistake in HYBE's multi label system

@hamlan7513

Ай бұрын

No, i don't think so

@hamlan7513

Ай бұрын

Both

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@hamlan7513No, only she is the worst mistake.

newjeans will fall down if they side with min-he-Jin

She has to be fired. She crossed every single line with her greed.

TY for explaining the multi-label business structures of the Big 4 and why the "slave contract" accusation doesn't really apply to the unfortunate Min Heejin-HYBE dispute. This entire situation befuddles me as a new fan of Kpop. How could MHJ sign a CEO contract without reading the details to know about her stock and NDA restrictions? Why would MHJ think that she is the only one to ensure New Jeans' continued success? What is HYBE going to change internally to ensure that this type of scenario never happens again? What changes will the entire industry make to improve the financial and psychological treatment of its idols, employees, and all associated outsourced companies as Kpop expands globally? 🤔

@anointedvlogs

Ай бұрын

I love your comment

They have the right to protect their assets and creative rights. It's not a slave contract. They give her everything because of that contract as insurance and she still broke it

If the parents of New jeans don’t want to be contacted by Hybe, I wonder what MHJ promised them, …and there to I think it’s about the money….it’s always 99% of the time about the money….but…it’s in the best interest of the New jeans girls to stay in the Hybe company if they want to be successful internationally…and if they stay without MHJ they will be just fine, other concept directors can do a good job for the girls, MHJ didn’t invent anything new, …BTS, TXT and others are doing really well with their concept directors,…and new talents also can be bring to do the job…they will be successful if they stay in Hybe, …if they go…then good luck….i am an Army first so if they go I won’t support because I supported them just because they are BTS juniors…💜

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

I think they are scared.

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

My guess is either they are scared, or they talked with a lawyer who told them to not accept phone calls from anyone and to stay silent.

I listened to a clip of a 1982 song that is super similar to Magnetic. Why is no one taking about that?

Well, it’s a no brainer NJ’s fans are going to support Min Hee Jin, so that’s not news! It’s definitely not an indication that the majority of people support her! She’s done a terrible job! That press conference was an unprofessional, manipulative tactic for sympathy in her part. That’s not going to do her any good in the courts. MHJ is no genius…she’s done nothing original! She has poached all of her ideas from the Western 90s girl groups fashion and overall aesthetic, as well as from K-Idols of generations 1, 2 and even 3 (Twice gg) As for NJ and their parents, MHJ has lied through her teeth to them! It’s negligent of the parents to refuse to at least meet and HEAR with Hybe. Nobody seems to care that she’s got an inappropriate obsession with young girls and boys and has sexualized them in really outrageous ways. And ‘slave contract’? LOL Didn’t she SIGN that ‘slave contract’ anyway?!! She’s completely insulted the history of slaves. She’s a major problem! I have made that point before that non-compete clauses are standard in business!!!

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

AH, no, we are not.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@LPnerd No, you are not what????

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

@@ArmantoAlex13 leaving New Jeans over this nonsense from a clearly awful human.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@LPnerd Great! I’m all for NJ fans sticking with THEM; none of this is their fault. I don’t have respect for anyone who listened to that woman’s 2 hour unhinged rant and actually believes her.

YOUR TITLE - IT'S HYBE .. NOT "HYPE"

HYBE cannot publicize every evidence they have.Don't you think it will give MHJ time to refute? And big possibility those evidence are confidential? So it seems by saying HYBE side doesn't stand a chance, they're basically are pushing HYBE to make a mistake? Why Arirang only present 1 representative lawyer? Why not 2 ? Why not invite another representative so public can understand with a wider aspect. And also why not invite Kim Youngdae too? As an international viewer, isn't he's one of the South Korea music critics?

I can't believe Koreans fell for her act when she was obviously using manipulation tactics at the press conference. She even dressed for a purpose to make people think she is just a female regular employee to gain sympathy. Do they know her job title? This woman gets paid more than HYBE CEO and still owns 18% shares. Does that sound like a regular employee? Instead of refuting the accusations, she aired the dirty laundry of her workplace. Some of us work at a corporation already knows what's like. She tried to shift the focus by dragging other groups in it. TVXQ and NJ are totally different situations. Obviously, NJ was not mistreated with a luxury dorm and earned millions after debuting. I bet they don't have the 13 years contract. Most kpop labels would be in trouble if they can go to court for plagiarism including ADOR. NJ is also very similar to the groups of the 90s. Only kids would believe MHJ concept is original because they haven't been through that era.

@realINTERNETFRIEND

Ай бұрын

Koreans did not "fall for" anything. Who do you think you are? As if you some westerner are smarter than Koreans and so Koreans must listen to your incorrect thoughts to understand a situation? The situation is better known and understood domestically. International fans do not know what they are talking about.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@realINTERNETFRIENDWell, actually YES, they did…generally speaking. You know how we know this? Because the media are reporting as such! Go ask THEM who do they think they are? We also know she intentionally appealed to the general public’s ’weak spot’ - the suppression and vulnerabilities that ordinary workers suffer’. She knows exactly how to get the general public on her side and according to YOUR media, overwhelmingly she did.

But their is nothing in common between any of hybe sublabels.

The creative director of NJ should be a very famous idol or ex-idol who brings his with him.

OMG since MHJ said Illit is copied, what makes anyone think Hybe can't take NJ to new heights?

@realINTERNETFRIEND

Ай бұрын

Because ILLIT is a copy

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@realINTERNETFRIENDAnd NJ rode on BTS’ coattails the ENTIRE TIME for clout!! MHJ copied western 90s girl group aesthetics and poached ideas from Gen. girl groups 1, 2 and even Gen 3 (gg Twice). So even if that was true - which I don’t think it is - what’s your point??!! LOL

@liloldminime

Ай бұрын

@@realINTERNETFRIEND That does not answer my question. Again, what makes you think Hybe can't make New Jeans more successful than MHJ can? If the so called copy Illit is doing well, imagine what Hybe can do for New Jeans. MHJ is good but she is not special.

Shes looking for huge amount of money because i think she have false promised a lot of people already on her plan to seperate from hybe (allegedly of course) 😂

I think the two commentators offer a very good perspective of the issue. Its balanced and doesnt take sides. It looks at point of law and industry wise. The point about similarities as breach of trust is interesting and pitting young groups as against each other within the same labels/company does pose questions about what HYBE are doing to young artists.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

It’s competition (not ‘pitting against’) among the groups! In an umbrella corporation healthy competition (if that’s what happened in this case) is a NORMAL business practice! It’s good for the groups and their leaders to stay motivated and achieve results - it potentially makes EVERYONE successful and makes more money. Good example: gymnastics - you have a team that works together in competition to beat every other team in the world and win medals. Within that team are gymnasts who compete with other girls around the world AND their own teammates for individual medals. Is that bad? No, it’s not! * You can apply this to a number of athletic teams in various sports.

@OT7_DopeOldARMY

Ай бұрын

@@ArmantoAlex13terrific comment. There is nothing wrong with competition. In fact, it tends to be motivating and foster creativity.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@OT7_DopeOldARMY Thank you! Fans think they know everything about business but in reality are just operating purely on emotion. I’ve got a corporate legal background, so I couldn’t just say nothing knowing they’re so wrong - MHJ is so wrong! She just doesn’t have a clue how big business works either. OR she’s ‘playing dumb’ on purpose to garner support from the gp. She’s reckless!

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@OT7_DopeOldARMY Thank you! People are operating far too much on emotion not common sense or with an understanding of business. That woman is behaving recklessly and she’s doing it on purpose to distract from the REAL issue here, which is breach of trust - did she or didn’t she…

Why does the guy in the suite keep bringing other ppl's cases into this? All those cases were way different from this one. They don't align.

@LPnerd

Ай бұрын

they compare, to show what could happen.

@crystal2484

Ай бұрын

It's case study law! There is similarity with TVXQ due to the slave contract. The other case is similar to NJ if they want to break their contract.

@hestergnu6627

Ай бұрын

Because that’s what you do in legal matters. You compare and contrast (or show similarities) with precedent cases, in addition to reference laws and regulations. Previous cases show how courts may interpret and apply laws and regulations. Legal complaints and replies are replete with case references and arguments as to why those previous cases are (or are not) relevant to the case at hand. In law school classes, you spend most of your time reading different cases, rather than learning laws and regulations (notwithstanding the federal Constitution, the federal laws of evidence, and other federal laws that are specific to a class)

@crisc1107

Ай бұрын

@crystal2484 There are no similarities between TVXQ and NewJeans. The slave contract that MHJ is talking about is her 4.5% shares that she can not sell in a short time, which is tying her from doing other things she planned to do. There is no long slave contract for New Jeans, neither for MHJ. What type of slave contract that will give you a salary that is higher than the CEO of the corporation, get the top floor and doesn't need to spend a dime to have your own group amd label under you?

This woman is a manipulator, narcissist, she needs to stop talking about other artist. Also BTS shouldn’t be coming out of her mouth, I wholeheartedly support BTS 🇬🇧 Facts

@jamietkh5862

Ай бұрын

Jeez, u r so toxic and venomous - presumptuous and judgemental. Rather suspicious..... Wtf r u?

@hamlan7513

Ай бұрын

You Misinformed

So newjeans' parents already took MHJ's side. Fifty fifty 2.0 in the making

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

They’re digging their own graves! They don’t deserve to stay if they bite the hand that feeds them!!

Last year I was thinking the SM conflict seemed like the plot of a K-drama. But the Hybe and Adore fight is even more dramatic and filled with plot twists. :O The regrettable part is that the artists also get dragged into the mess :(

MHJ agreed to the contract if she found it to ling she would have said something!

It’s hybe not hype

They want to say that HYBE broke promises to MHJ, but it was MHJ that wanted to get further and further away from what she was hired to do in the first place. What was she hired to do? She was hired to be the creative director for the first GG from HYBE which was TO BE UNDER SOURCE MUSIC (The record label that HYBE had recently purchased). She voiced her displeasure with not wanting to work with Sakura or Chaewon who were brought in by Source Music for the group. MHJ is an employee, Source Music/HYBE could've said "Too bad. You need to work with these artists." or they could've just fired her. Instead they heard her opinions and GAVE HER HER OWN LABEL WITH FULL CREATIVE CONTROL. She was able to pick her own members and make her own decisions for the group with HYBE paying for everything. Then they gave her 18% of the company. But now that she has a separate label for New Jeans, Source Music STILL NEEDS A GG! You know, what she was hired to do?! She wants to complain that New Jeans debut was pushed back, but it was delayed to debut the Source Music group first. THAT's what she was hired to do! She wants to complain about the one mild inconvenience as being a "broken promise", when to me it just sounds like a scheduling conflict. I don't know if HYBE has enough evidence to win in court, but my opinion of MHJ is an ungrateful, manipulative "snake in the grass".

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

You are 💯 right! From the minute she was taken on by Hybe, she’s demanded, demanded, demanded and Bang tried to give her everything she demanded within reason. She’s been paid to do a job and she’s been doing her job - now carry on with it!!! He even gave her the whole top floor (typically reserved for the execs at the very top - CEO of the umbrella company). AND not only did Bang allow her to buy shares in Ador, he LOANED her the money to buy them! And yes, Hybe has enough on her and her board to legally bury her. If the Korean court system is legitimate - ie. operates within the law and not public opinion, she’s done. She (her unprofessional behaviour) is the reason that men, in the past, have not wanted women in business. She’s a prime example of a woman who’s too emotionally driven - histrionic. She gives all women in business a bad name!

MHJ, where is the HYBE 💻??

If New Jeans leave Hybe and go with MJH, I will be no longer be supporting NJ.

@user-wg1lj9jk5g

Ай бұрын

That will show their hearts. They've been manipulated and so r the parents. This lady has been manipulating them for so long though

MHJ can fool k-media and k-netizen but not the international fans 😂...we are not idiots enough to be fooled by MHJ...I think this MHJ dreams to be an idol when she was young, but unfortunately didn't happen, it is because seems like she wants all spotlight on her, if you give NewJeans any guesting you should guest her too, if you put NewJeans on the Billboard or Magazine you should always put her name on it,that's why she wanted, all attentions and all fame, opposite of Hitman Bang.

@realINTERNETFRIEND

Ай бұрын

That doesn't make sense. MHJ can "fool" the Korean media and Korean citizens who are more familiar with Korean music industry, Korean law, and Korean culture? But cannot "fool" international fans, the ones who know nothing about going on? Isn't this a sort of racism in and of itself for you to assume you know more about Korea than Koreans themselves?

@eneri83

Ай бұрын

Korean mindset is different....you know what MHJ is just like those Presidents who are facing corruption cases, they will call press conferences, they will cry,they will act like pitiful, and gets all media's sympathy 😂

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@realINTERNETFRIENDIsn’t it racist of you to suggest that, though we have the same amount of information you and the Korean general public do, that our opinions/assessments mean nothing…are looked down upon because we’re not Korean?! It goes both ways, dear.

@realINTERNETFRIEND

Ай бұрын

@@ArmantoAlex13 How does it 'go both ways'? It does not. Again, you are being a sort of racist.

@ujjtdktuk5453wG

Ай бұрын

저는 한국인입니다. Even if Min Hee-jin reveals the money, the reason for disliking Hive. Hive gathers NewJins as the first rookie girl group title audition, but Chae-won and Sakura debut as the first girl group, putting NewJins in the background. They block the promotion path by not being NewJins and promote themselves as Min Hee-jin's group like Leseraphim. Even when NewJins was a real syndrome, they only promoted through self-shot promotional TV shows like Yu Quiz, strangely promoting on KZread entertainment not related to idols. They accuse Min Hee-jin of embezzlement by attaching the word "NewJins Mom" to things that could have been resolved internally at the company. They spread rumors that Min Hee-jin practices occult management against BTS. They stir up trouble before NewJins comeback. Text messages from Bang Si-hyuk shown at the press conference. When public opinion arises regarding the suspicion of D-World, starting with the wording of threats and witch hunts in OMG text messages, Hive subtly undermines BTS instead of directly defending itself. After the press conference, they give evasive responses when public opinion doesn't go their way. Hive doesn't stay silent when artists are used without consent, so their implicit acceptance of using BTS for promotion in D-World is notable. The previously questioned girlfriend concept and disbandment / "OMG" mental hospital concept fit perfectly within the suspicion of D-World. They engage in grotesque behavior in the idol market with concert fees and album photocards. Many albums are actually circulating like garbage. Now, they take the overall image and pictorials of the group, which has been around for about 2 years, and create a copy group. In summary, While pretending to support NewJins, they create a copy group amidst the current situation. They use embezzlement accusations as a guise for spreading rumors. Dragging BTS into the embezzlement rumors and D-World issues. Former Nexon CEO Park Ji-won is involved.

if Min took the girls and she wanted to make her vision for the girls. what about money and connection for this? this was Hybes job before andn NJ is known for their songs mainly not their looks. so i dont think Min is very importaint for them. if Min is right about Illet Hybe is more than cable of copy Min´s idea hehe.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

She only earned $80M in 2023. For comparison, BTS (who were inactive) and TXT earned $401M and Pledis earned $238M. So you’re right…she’s really not that important! She needs to be pulling in numbers close to these before she starts throwing her weight around as if she’s a queen.

@Elektra9

Ай бұрын

The money for a new label would come from selling her shares in Ador. She will possibly already cash out 13x the price, but wanted 30x. That is when Hibe put the foot down.

I don’t understand the guy with the heavy accent, bring someone who knows for crying outloud

LA guy is a little too “empathetic” with MHJ. She raises little to no good points. She practically forced them to make her CEO of a label they created for her. They rewarded her success with New Jeans (clear evidence that they suffered nothing by going second after LS) with a giant stake in the company (worth a lot of money with a tiny amount of patience on her part). The price of that kind of title and that kind of reward is a mere year or two of loyalty to the company she could NOT have had that success without. She couldn’t even manage a bare minimum of loyalty or appreciation. She was too busy feeling sorry for herself and poisoning New Jeans against the company who is ACTUALLY responsible for the success - training-wise, financially, through international connections, as “BTS’s younger sisters,” and the list goes on. Never mind all the ugliness of the apparent “public opinion” part of her alleged plan that seems to be in full swing - with organized, false, smear campaigns to make everyone else in and around HYBE look as bad as they can falsely concoct. It’s shameful.

❤

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I don't understand what the US based dude is talking about. There is a lot of competition between labels of the same genre in the US. Look at hip hop. Historically Bad Boy vs Death Row. Both were under UMG. There is a precedent here in the US.

Wrong spelling 😂 Also, it's the parent's mistake to not get in contact with hybe. Do they think HYBE will fall down if their kids don't do work for hybe? They're thinking as if their kids are very popular not thinking the resources hybe used to make the girls popular as well as the music. Me personally, they're too overhyped. As the person said, they're too youn and doesn't even have a person who can make music in them. They would be like BP who will just wait for music from their label. Even now, they don't release that much music and they're even popular because of how repetitive their music is becuase of tiktok. I don't really like their music and all of their release, they usually have issues and scandals because of their concepts or music. It's too much for my taste. Their fandom is also very toxic even if it's still new in terms of creation. Sad, really.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

They’re just starting out and MHJ behaves like they are the second coming of Christ! They need to have been around for awhile, build a sizeable discography and have many hits before she can even compare the group to the ‘greats’ like BTS (who ARE right up there beside The Beatles).

@mysticv197

Ай бұрын

@@ArmantoAlex13 "right up there beside The Beatles" 🤣🤣🤣💀

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

@@mysticv197 You need to do a little reading once in awhile, dude! They actually beat The Beatles’ record for the number of hits in a year. Also, I believe their discography is either on par with or bigger than The Beatles’ discography. The media has actually written about those statistics and Interviewers have actually TOLD the group that they are being called the present day Beatles, to which they responded very humbly to the comparison. I know that probably gives you feelings of jealousy knowing this but you’ll have to pull up your big boy (or girl) pants and just accept it.

NJ is dead......

Oooo all the perfect people on this comments having nothing to do with their lives but think they know better others business, i agree get names correctly if you want to put your nose in others business

Wait until the public finds out about how greedy she is! She doesn't deserve that kind of money for what she does. Idols such as RM from BTS have already thrown shade at her.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

Here’s how important her precious Ador is: 2023 Earnings: BTS/TXT earnings in 2023 - $401M New Jeans - $80M Pledis - $238M BeeLift - $19.9M MHJ earned peanuts for Hybe in year 1. In fact, $80M is about the value of HER shares in Ador, which she bought with the money BANG loaned to her! The Gaul of her! Until NJ has a sizeable discography behind them, they’re nothing extra-special. They need to prove they have longevity and she needs to prove she can give them longevity.

We Wish That Legal Dispute between HYBE and ADOR will be resolve in the near future

She is evil, Nj and Adora belig to Hybe, this is mr bang company that him and Bts build up, and she treat his generosity like this, shame on her. And the way she went to the press looking like a homeless person, shame on her

Well if Nj disappears then I amok with that. Oh well, same as 50 50. Besides they are with MHJ so they should all leave.

The comments criticizing MHJ without knowing anything about the specific situation in Korea are hilarious. Are they part-timers in the comments?

@user-eg5ri2fp3f

Ай бұрын

Your comment is dumb

@mysticv197

Ай бұрын

they are armies in the cult of Hybe, anything their god BSH says must be true. These people cant think for themselves.

@user-eg5ri2fp3f

Ай бұрын

MHJ followers defending her while also speculating that she’s innocent without knowing everything is hilarious * 😂 is she a part timer 😂😂😂?

@user-eg5ri2fp3f

Ай бұрын

@@mysticv197 😂😂😂 you got jokes

Она и убрала втс с экрана чтоб ее група и джин смогли чтото завоевать как ребята из втс побт танцуют все дивьем а девечьи смех

Hope MHJ leaves and so her team and her grp, let’s see how they survive without the hand that feeds them all this time.

I know Nj is on MHJ side so I hope they just leave to another label since they hate hybe and ador so much. Go away then. NJ is not doing well already of course. They wanted payola and playlisting and hybe ain’t doing that anymore. Hahahaha buhbye !!! Let’s see if she can go to her daddy SM

Haah Bernie, ur punchlines delivered and the take-away, luvit!😂: 'NJ synonymous with NHJ!', 'NJ=100B$ Q!', 'Broken Promises!', how gonna replace MHJs 'CREATIVE DIRECTION, CREATIVE GENIUS!', 'impossible task?'....wohw! Brilliant choices of words and phrases - no Q at all to ur inferences.😅 Simple: in common law onus of proof of alleged misdoings lies with the complainant. Big Q is has the alleged intention been acted upon causing big tangible losses to aggrieved party? Legally speaking, intention is just a mental objective, just a thought based on circumstantial allegations. So let's follow the trial of biblical DAVID vs the goliath - mud-slinging instead rock-slinging! Wondering would biblical history repeats itself? Subliminal signals in the text size here. Well, in the public domain we already know who's winning.🤭

What is he speaking ..v??? Don’t understand shit ..

The similarities between artists under the same label no used to argument about that! Because all of it was a same genre music storyline and standard color to use for of the label and so what’s the problem? Even BTS TxT SVT BND ENHYPEN Tws almost same concept because all of them under the same label but different room.

@nicoleloss7987

Ай бұрын

You joking what nonsense none of these groups are similar. They all have different styles, concepts and music. Pledis and koz entertainment were companies with their own identity when hybe brought them.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

I agree with everything except that BTS is the same as its brother groups. BTS stands alone in every way imaginable; they have achieved the highest tier, rivalling even The Beatles just from the size of their discography, huge hits and # of awards.

@Tiaraly666

Ай бұрын

are you sure? It's all a concept series on mv ep. The concept of teenage dreams, the concept of traditional rock, the concept of funky, the concept of fairy tales. Tbh even BTS doesn't care who doing their concept Because that is inspired by his idol to their junior kpop. How about Micheal jackson’s dance??? I think a lot of people around the world dance micheal jackson dance in their mv to remember the star and appreciate the star.

Nothing do BTS family Stop hurt me and my BTS family and friends and family fan's everything to me thank you BTS family Of mine written song about me I love them ever seen I was a little kid. Been amazing family help me I have a disability and music help me with my anxiety and stress that what I love them got boyfriend out of them been amzing family Of mine I don't want to lose BTS family Of mine and amry mean everything to me thank you

it seems like most people in comment section haven't watched full conference... I hope people watch the conference from beginning to end and then talk about it. Articles distributed by sites with messy translations like allkpop focus only on what they find provocative during the two-hour discussion. Most Koreans who watched the conference did so without any bias, as many of them didn't even know who Min Hee-jin was. Despite differing opinions on Min Hee-jin's somewhat intense tone, if you delve into the content of her words, you'll see that Hybe was consistently countered with evidence and arguments. This aspect might not be apparent to international audiences. Among those interested in this issue abroad, many are already fans of K-pop and are familiar with Min Hee-jin or Bang Si-hyuk to some extent, and already have preconceived notions about them. Viewing the issue through such fixed ideas, those who already dislike Min Hee-jin for whatever reason will try to find fault in everything she says or does. However, when typical Koreans encountered this news, there were likely more people uninterested in K-pop or idols, and many who had just learned who Min Hee-jin was. Therefore, they would have viewed the issue without any bias and focused on the content, regardless of her appearance or tone being standing out and different from norm. (Even though that is how she dress even on other interviews and award shows) Sometimes when you hear stories from international fans, it seems like they think Koreans live their lives entirely focused on K-pop, but in reality, there are more people who aren't interested at all. So, there's no infiltration or change in opinions. Looking back at the Fifty Fifty situation, most international fans supported Fifty Fifty and heavily criticized the CEO. Most Koreans sided with the CEO. At that time, most Koreans didn't know who Fifty Fifty was, and they didn't know the CEO either. They just found the CEO's story more credible and truthful when they heard from two people. The difference in perspective between international fans and ordinary Koreans stems from several factors: the inability to understand the language, the slower access to news, and the mistranslation or deliberate sensationalization of news by companies translating these articles, resulting in international fans not receiving the accurate news. Koreans typically encounter news about Min Hee-jin or FiftyFifty-related news about once an hour, and these news pieces are often presented neutrally without taking sides. Additionally, many Korean KZreadrs neutrally analyze both sides of the argument and explain the correct and incorrect points, allowing the public to make their own decisions based on the content. Because to most of them or general public, it is not that important since they are not fandom of any group. It is interesting story and something to talk about, that is it. However, international fans often encounter media that leans heavily towards one side, especially outlets like allkpop or Koreanboo. Therefore, international fans frequently fail to access accurate information due to the influence of media. For instance, the word 'bad' in English can have both positive and negative meanings, but when Koreans hear it, they often interpret it negatively. Similarly, in Korean, translating words directly into English can result in distorted meanings, leading to misunderstandings and misconceptions. Min Hee-jin didn't selectively show KakaoTalk messages to prove only what she wanted, and at least she appeared more truthful than Hybe's official stance. Korean lawyers and people in the entertainment industry are not fools; they are very smart people. Most lawyers or marketing experts also think Min Hee-jin seems truthful, but they believe Hybe will prevail. Because they have 80% of share, and end of the day Big companies usually win. But culturally, Min hee jin wins, because she talked about a lot of dark Side of Kpop general public did not know about, and now they knows. And trying to fix it. From a neutral standpoint, it's not even important who wins. It might be important to fans, but to the general public, whether this issue is positive or negative for K-pop as a whole matters. It might be negative for Hybe, but when viewed in the context of the entire K-pop industry, it brings to the surface issues that have been swept under the rug for so long. Min Hee-jin mentioned issues like photo cards and forced fan meetings (how it is hard for artists, fans, because of greed of companies) during this conference. She also talked about industry-wide problems in the K-pop industry. Why don't they talk about these issues? While focusing on Min Hee-jin's appearance and tone, no one properly translates and spreads the essence of the content. By bringing up these issues, Min Hee-jin ultimately made Koreans who don't know much about K-pop realize that such problems exist. Issues like forcing CD purchases randomly and the lack of uniqueness maintained by each label, even though innovative marketing methods like NewJeans have been utilized, leading to the homogenization of the entire K-pop style... It's not just an issue of illit copying; in the past, groups from the Big 3 companies all had the same style of music and fashion, leading to the uniformity of the entire K-pop scene. If you're a multi-label, each one should be different. When one group succeeds, its style becomes a trend, and everyone starts following it. However, leading that from the same company is wrong, and it negatively affects not just NewJeans and Illit but the entire K-pop culture. That's why efforts are being made to change it. International fans seems to be more focussed on min hee jin and hybe, who is right or wrong. When Koreans talk about something else, more of problems in Kpop and how to fix it.

@Tenderisthenight.

Ай бұрын

One of the rare sane assessments. It's strange that people have forgotten how to look at situations with an open mind and without bias

저는 한국인입니다. Even if Min Hee-jin reveals the money, the reason for disliking Hive. Hive gathers NewJins as the first rookie girl group title audition, but Chae-won and Sakura debut as the first girl group, putting NewJins in the background. They block the promotion path by not being NewJins and promote themselves as Min Hee-jin's group like Leseraphim. Even when NewJins was a real syndrome, they only promoted through self-shot promotional TV shows like Yu Quiz, strangely promoting on KZread entertainment not related to idols. They accuse Min Hee-jin of embezzlement by attaching the word "NewJins Mom" to things that could have been resolved internally at the company. They spread rumors that Min Hee-jin practices occult management against BTS. They stir up trouble before NewJins comeback. Text messages from Bang Si-hyuk shown at the press conference. When public opinion arises regarding the suspicion of D-World, starting with the wording of threats and witch hunts in OMG text messages, Hive subtly undermines BTS instead of directly defending itself. After the press conference, they give evasive responses when public opinion doesn't go their way. Hive doesn't stay silent when artists are used without consent, so their implicit acceptance of using BTS for promotion in D-World is notable. The previously questioned girlfriend concept and disbandment / "OMG" mental hospital concept fit perfectly within the suspicion of D-World. They engage in grotesque behavior in the idol market with concert fees and album photocards. Many albums are actually circulating like garbage. Now, they take the overall image and pictorials of the group, which has been around for about 2 years, and create a copy group. In summary, While pretending to support NewJins, they create a copy group amidst the current situation. They use embezzlement accusations as a guise for spreading rumors. Dragging BTS into the embezzlement rumors and D-World issues. Former Nexon CEO Park Ji-won is involved.

Min HeeJin is a brilliant creative talent and there's no doubt that NewJeans success can be attributed not just to her talent, but also her ingenuity and pragmatic management sense. HYBE has handled itself completely unprofessionally in its dealing with Min HeeJin both directly and indirectly. Many of the replies on this video, as we're also seeing on other social media, are griefers HYBE's dime - paid to create posts attempting to influence public opinion by creating an artificial view as if anyone would take HYBE seriously, or ever seriously consider a NewJeans without Min HeeJin.

@mala-dd8fg

Ай бұрын

I agree about the way comments here are definitely skewed. How can you not understand the legal points and the industry points. This is not a kpop news show. So it's definitely fans who really have no understanding and easily swayed.

@ArmantoAlex13

Ай бұрын

LOL

@pamelakrause9311

14 күн бұрын

😂 creative, copying Western era 90's Jpop Y2k and Mexican group Jeans, plus using music from the popular UK group Shakatak 1982 song for Bubblegum and a DJ mix from another artist, and claiming it as new and orginal is far from creative... Internationally they are known as MJH the copy cat Queen & Knockoff Jeans. They are what is bringing Kpop down in international eyes. Then that whole interview, the weeping, the dishevelled look, seriously MHJ looked like she had escaped ftom a mental asylum. As a woman in the Corporate world she was downright embarrassing.

@ArmantoAlex13

14 күн бұрын

@@pamelakrause9311 YEP!!!!

It's HYBE Arirang News. H Y B E