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@TrekPoint

3 ай бұрын

turks are not arabs ! they dont use BiN in the name !

@atakorkut5110

3 ай бұрын

This is so crazy, but my family my ancestors hailed from Amasya and Bartın. It’s crazy to know that this was part of the history mainly because I stayed there for months during the summer of 95, which was shortly before I moved to the United States with my parents what took us back was unfortunately a death in the family it was very hard for me to reallyemotionally comprehend what was going on because I was really young and I didn’t know the person that had passed away but it was amazing being able to explore the places such a small town so beautiful it feels like it barely changes every hundred years and it’s amazing to know that this was part of the history of the town

"You know, Isa. I know that after your father died, you have walked from court to court, and from humilliating defeat into humilliating defeat. You have lost all the armies you have commanded. But... what the hell. I kind of like you. Have another army. Just don't break it like the other ones!"

@tatarcavalry2342

3 ай бұрын

I saw this comment while he was going to the court of Jandarids for soldiers lmao that guy was hopeless

@KaiHung-wv3ul

3 ай бұрын

The Karamanids "Wait, actually we don't want to give an army to the guy who just lost like four of them in a row."

This is the least mentioned Ottoman history part in Turkish schools. It's only "after 1402 there was 11 years of civil war and Mehmet çelebi gained power". Details of the civil war and remaining years of his reign is unknown for most of the Turks. I really appreciate the effort and your work. Thanks for the video!

@truja97

3 ай бұрын

Why is it like that?

@AlpKagan.

3 ай бұрын

@@truja97 history in schools are clearly biased. We beat the whole Europe history is more popular, hence, struggles of the empire don't mentioned as much. Most of the defeats are mentioned as "because Austrians and Russians are allied and stuff then we lost, otherwise we were cool" . Education only accepts real Ottoman decline in 19th century since there is no decisive wins remaining :) I needed to read foreign sources to understand real position of the empire. In my knowledge, until the end of high-school, I believed that ottomans did not lose even any minor skirmish against the Europeans until 17th century. (obviously wrong in all sides)

@berkosmansatiroglu

3 ай бұрын

+yes

@Redyank1194

3 ай бұрын

I've been looking forward to another addition of the rise of the ottoman series for months! I honestly didn't know about this civil war. Glad it's getting mentioned though.

@KaiHung-wv3ul

3 ай бұрын

That's a shame because this is very interesting.

This is a real unicorn of a Kings and Generals video: it's about the Ottoman Civil War AND contains the phrase "died of natural causes." I never thought I'd see the day!

Your early Ottoman history videos are much appreciated! Especially for a Bulgarian from Thrace. An often ignored period in our history. 🙏

@Seawolf887

3 ай бұрын

Bulgarian from thrace?

@bobriquardo5317

3 ай бұрын

Check a map Seawolf.@@Seawolf887

@FF-qp4xq

3 ай бұрын

​@@GhjkoplokkpWestern Thrace is greek while northern Thrace is bulgarian.

@mehmetkayraozer9164

3 ай бұрын

​@@Ghjkoplokkp western thrace is Greece.

@Seawolf887

3 ай бұрын

@@Weberkooks ok

It's pretty impressive that except for a few civil wars like this the Ottomans had 10 really good Sultans in a row.

Fun fact: Ottoman princes are named after prophets. Mehmed: Mohammad İsa: Jesus Musa: Moses Süleyman: Solomon Mustafa: Another name of Mohammad

@SIUUUUUsman

3 ай бұрын

Correct

@aleksandarvil5718

3 ай бұрын

Solomon wasn''t Prophet, HE WAS KING OF ISRAEL !!!

@kmmmsyr9883

3 ай бұрын

@@aleksandarvil5718 He was according to Islamic faith. And Ottomans were Muslim.

@008ammar

3 ай бұрын

Muslims recognise 25 prophets, all of the above mentioned are the ones included

@user-ud6gb8xe4x

3 ай бұрын

​@@aleksandarvil5718hayır kuranda peygamber olarak anılır.

He is also known as "the second founderer of the Empire".

I can’t imagine, what was Emperor Manuel was going through during this turbulent time, constantly changing his allegiances from one prince to another and agreeing to all the new and different treaties.

@dominicguye8058

3 ай бұрын

It didn't look that complicated to me

@richardgalbavy7103

3 ай бұрын

@@dominicguye8058 Because your life, City, fate of thousand year realm etc. is not influenced by those events as you are watching video from home/work. Manuel had no such luxury.

@horseman217

3 ай бұрын

Keyboard genius@@dominicguye8058

Evrenos Bey, an Ottoman general who had served the dynasty since the foundation of the empire also escaped from prince Musa and joined forces with Mehmed I

@cnw6306

3 ай бұрын

He's had a very long life, does he? He's even still leads the army even though he's more than 100 years old #cmiiw

@mohammadbilal4473

3 ай бұрын

Bro gazi evrenos bey was a diff level veteran, he saw the empire from literally growing to disintegrating and then uniting again, he lived for 129 years ( 1288 - 1417 ). Truly deserved his title.

@KurulusOsmanTrailersEnglish

3 ай бұрын

@@mohammadbilal4473bro my guy say every sultan, from Osman bey to orhan bey to sultan murad to bayezid to sultan mehmed

@KurulusOsmanTrailersEnglish

3 ай бұрын

5 sultans in 100 years crazy.

@KurulusOsmanTrailersEnglish

3 ай бұрын

He saw them turn from a couple lands to a beylik than a state then an empire then a beylik and then a sultanate again

The sons of Bayezid are named after religious prophets. Mehmed: Muhammad Isa: Jesus Musa: Moses Suleyman: Solomon Mustafa: Epithet of Muhammad

@nenenindonu

3 ай бұрын

While he himself was named after a Sufi saint from Central Asia (Bayezid Bistami)

@HOCATIMURTASPASA

3 ай бұрын

​@@nenenindonubin yezitten gelmiyormu yani muaviye oğlu yezid demek ben öyle biliyorum. Osmanlıların emevi yanlısı olduğunu düşünüyorum

@onatdeveci5502

3 ай бұрын

​​@@HOCATIMURTASPASAErken Osmanlı hep Bektaşi olm. Devleti Sünni yapan Yavuz Sultan Selim. Ayrıca Bayzeid sozcüğünün Yezid ile de alakası yoktur, Payazat'tan gelir.

@nenenindonu

3 ай бұрын

@@HOCATIMURTASPASA No, Muslim dynasties affiliated with sufi mysticism from Turkestan somehow revere caliph Ali a lot and despise Umayyads, just look at what Timur did to Umayyad graves and sympathizers in Damascus

@HOCATIMURTASPASA

3 ай бұрын

​@@nenenindonuDostum Hz Ali'yi seviyorlar lakin bir okadar da Hz Osman'ın seviyorlar, Emeviler hz Osman'ın soyundan geliyorlar ve Osmanlılar emevilere saygı duyuyor kurucusunun ismi osman ve devletinde ismi osman olması bunun göstergesidir ve hz Alinin oğlu hz Hüseyin'in şehit edilmesinin emeviler ve yöneticilerle alakası yok osmanlı bunu çok iyi biliyor ve bu yüzden iki sultanın ve şehsadelerin ismi bin yezittir yani bayezit. Timurun Hz yezidin mezarıyla ilgili söylentiler nekadar doğru bilmiyorum ama bir fars şairinin mezarını yıktığını duymuştum.

This video is very well put together. As a Turk reading Turkish history for years, I’d like to thank you.

God, Ottoman history is just so interesting and fun to learn about. I love it!

A civil war I did not know about in detail, wel summarized. A pity we don't get to see some details on the most important battles

@Kili2807

3 ай бұрын

I guess the sources are too limited

@marcomilani4966

3 ай бұрын

@@Kili2807 yeah that's usually the case with K&G when they don't go in depth

What a fascinating time. And how quickly the Ottomans recovered (granted the spent their strength fighting among themselves) after Timur.

@kalmon6745

3 ай бұрын

It's survival of the fittest with these dudes, as controversial as it was when they stopped doing it arguably the empire declined 🤔🤔😂

@ottomanpapyrus9365

6 күн бұрын

@@kalmon6745 Its kinda true but also alot of chaos and resources spent to find the most capable Sultan

I will write my previous comment again here. It's interesting to observe that many commentators often seek to downplay the achievements, conquests, and innovations of the Ottomans. Yet, let's acknowledge that we are discussing an empire that engaged in wars, primarily driven by economic and political motives rather than religious ones. It successfully adapted to the demands of its time, establishing a robust framework for administration, trade, and the economy. The Ottoman Empire created a flourishing civilization with the influence of other rich civilizations where diverse nations coexisted harmoniously; although, one might observe a different scenario in its former geography marked by various problems nowadays. As someone proud of my Turkish heritage, I take immense pride in my ancestors who, despite their imperfections, played a pivotal role in shaping and sustaining the Ottoman Empire for an impressive six centuries. Thank you, K&G, we love you!

The foundations of the Ottoman state were already so strong by early 1400s that Bayazid's defeat at Ankara held them back only for 10 years before state got reunited.

This+2nd Crusade+Wars of the Diadochi, you guys are on fire with interesting history.

Your videos on early Ottoman history are tremendously appreciated. In particular, for a Bulgarian native of Thrace. A historic era that is frequently disregarded.

Surprised with all of this going on in the Ottoman empire that the neighbouring kingdoms didn't have a go at destabilising them more.

@adamsnow4979

3 ай бұрын

They were reeling from the wounds of nicopolis

Day by day this channel's qulity of making videos is improving✅ and it's giving us most interesting doucmentries for free. Thank you so much❤

As always, love the Ottoman series. Keep up the great work K&G!

Dear K&G, if biased Ottoman historians say a sultan is a hard partyer, he was very probably a hard partyer.

@xerex21212

3 ай бұрын

When they say biased, they mean pro Mehmed and anti Suleyman sources

@KingsandGenerals

3 ай бұрын

Yep

@SafavidAfsharid3197

3 ай бұрын

​@@KingsandGeneralsplease cover more videos on india like mughal conquests, mughal relationship with Ottomans, British conquest of india and maratha conquests

@sidiahmedhowmy7925

3 ай бұрын

Why do karamanids israeli flag

@ardakara1253

3 ай бұрын

​@@sidiahmedhowmy7925 It isnt Israeli flag. Karamanid flag had the star of David on it.

We need the next part ASAP... AWESOME EPISODES🎉🎉

Awesome video. Hopefully the next episode comes soon.

I cant wait for the next episode🥰, i hope you will release the videos about the ottoman history sooner in the future!

Thank you bro I've been waiting for a long time. ❤

Finally a deep dive into this war by you!

Note: After Ertuğrul's death, Osman's younger uncle, Haji Bektash Veli, became Bey, according to stories found in the book Vilayetname. Around that period, Osman and a few other fighters began planning raids on the Byzantine territories that bordered Söğüt, including Yarhisar, Bilecik, İnegöl, and İznik. Provoked as a result, the Byzantine Tekfur (governor) of Bursa complained about these ongoing attacks and sent envoys to the Seljuk Sultan Alâeddin Kayqubad III.

As usual .. marvelous videos😍

An interesting story I knew very little of, I look forward to the next video in the series.

I've been waiting for this! I've been wondering about the ottoman civil war!

It is crazy that this is the one & only civil war for an empire of 600 years lifespan.

@kubat552

3 ай бұрын

Bayezid II and Cem Sultan was also a great civil war.

@mehmetkayraozer9164

3 ай бұрын

​@@kubat552 it was not that big.

@roach590

3 ай бұрын

It depends on your definition of a civil war but yeah, nothing of this magnitude ever happened again

@osmanokumuser

3 ай бұрын

What about Kavalalı, he nearly captured the throne after defeat the ottoman army 3 times. Like in this turmoil, ottoman sultan stop them by the help of external powers

@onur6145

3 ай бұрын

@@osmanokumuser It was an uprising of a governor. He didn't have any right on the throne.

Refering to the fratricide family tree, Murad's elder brother was Suleyman. In sources like von Hammer, Suleyman was the favorite one for the day to ascend to the throne would come. However, he was killed in a hunting accident and left Murad to fight his little brother Halil. Being the elder one left might be a legitimacy winner for Europe in that age, it didn't work like that in the east, though. Fratricide as a practice entered the law during the reign of Mehmed II, being the grandson of the first. A couple of generations later, might-be-heirs grew up in the palace in Constatinople. Many of them never left the quarters or at least alive, anyhow. Happy to contribute, keep it coming!

@VasilBelezhkov

3 ай бұрын

Hunting 'accidents' were very popular among medieval rulers. I still don't get how some Bulgarian tsars dared to go hunting with some brother or cousin who is interested in 'inheriting his job'. It was like this for tsar Gavrail Radomir (1014-1015) and the other one was tsar Mihail II Asen (1246-1256).

I was waiting impatiently for this

Really interesting! Thanks!

keep going bro, we love your content! especially ottoman empire

Excellent video thanks

Very informative 🎉

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

Thanks for the video

I have been waiting for the follow-up video of the defeat of Sultan Bayazid I from Timur The Lame for a long time and finally it has appeared, waiting for the continuation

Amazing video as always!

@chasechristophermurraydola9314

3 ай бұрын

You said it.

Thanks!

Awesome video as usual

2:49 - Your visual description of Albanian lords and their tribes is VERY ACCURATE. Amazing channel, congratulations.

K&G uploaded a new Ottomans video today. Today was a good day.

It is amazing none of the European lands of ottomans revolt after battle of Ankara. Only anatolian Türkmen beys revolted. This shows Ottoman empire's foundation in Europe is strong. But now we have little of it

Thanks for Ottoman Empire videos❤❤❤

Very amazing video.

Thanks…. Keep updating us about the Ottomans

Would be phantastic if you could make a video about Phromo Kesaro and the Turk Shahis. Or the Turkic army corps of the Abbasid dynasty is a very underrated piece of history, too. A detailed listing of the intrigues during that time would be a PIECE OF ART.

Everyone knows about Mehmet the second, conqueror, but not that many about Mehmet first the person who recreated ottoman empire through difficult times

extremely well made

One of the overlooked great Ottoman rulers, unlike the more popular Ottomans Mehmed I didn't even inherit the throne let alone taking over a stable state as Suleiman I did. He's basically an Ottoman equivalent of Atatürk

@nenenindonu

3 ай бұрын

@@1purpose482 ikhwanist cope

@kalmon6745

3 ай бұрын

​@@nenenindonucmon comparing this badass to a jew like ataturk 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🗑️

@yavuzyorulmaz.de.

3 ай бұрын

@@1purpose482 every muslim understand this except our Turks

Fascinating video about a very turbulent period in history!

This was great.

great video!

Great video

I’m looking forward to the episodes about the reigns of Murad II and Fatih Sultan Mehmed🥰

thnks for video

güzel ve başarılı bir video olmuş

I want this series to continue all the way to the end

Mehmed is considered the second founder of the Ottoman Empire because he ended the Ottoman civil war.

Ottoman history is very interesting please continue this series

Thank you!!👍🏽

excellent

Mehmet reminds me of Aurelian

Bro what took u so long we need more #OTTOMAN videos ❤

Ottoman recovered while timurids lost in oblivion

You know your state is special when it only has 1 civil war in its 600 years of history.

@degoose2447

3 ай бұрын

Special needs yeah

Is really weird to see a map of the Ottoman Empire without the Anatolian region. Make you think about the size of that mess.

This might be my fav K&G series, Ottomans were so cool

It's Beauty this video

Nice

Awesome video! Love ya!

More of ottomon please❤

16:06 Fun fact: This is when the events of Kingdom Come: Deliverance and likely its sequel take place, in 1403 Bohemia during Sigismund's wars there

Chapeau!

Will you be releasing the patreon only videos for everyone like you did with the Peloponnesian war series?

@KingsandGenerals

3 ай бұрын

Not at this point

I think that it's a miracle that Ottomans managed to reunite and not lose even more lands. Had Timurids managed to retain their influence in Anatolia or Hungary capitalized and chip away lands in the balkans, history would have gone through a different route.

@darkrieshunter6670

3 ай бұрын

There was no way the Timurids would be able to retain their influence in Anatolia as the empire is almost depend on Timur.

@thomasrinschler6783

3 ай бұрын

Imagine if the Nicopolis Crusade had happened *after* Ankara and not before.

@yavuzyorulmaz.de.

3 ай бұрын

the exact opposite would happen if Bayezid had managed to defeat Timur. History can't be written with "if"

Hey Kings and Generals Crew! Are you ever going to do continue what happened to Ottoman Empire after the year 1600 when slow downfall of the Empire started? Seems to me you are redoing old videos about early history of the ottomans again. Also Komnenian restoration period would be awesome :)

@KingsandGenerals

3 ай бұрын

Yes

@MrCommandert10

3 ай бұрын

Slow downfall was from 1700. K&G is a biased Europeon history channel. When europeons lose it was always "fought heroic", someone fleed or a natural disaster.

@copiapadus478

3 ай бұрын

@@MrCommandert10 I'd say it started early 1600's but it's subjective matter. Some say after Suleiman died the decline started and some say after siege of Vienna 1684. Take your pick :)

Love king and generals videos on Islamic world ( from the Middle Ages and the ottomans), beautifully done 👍🏾

Still waiting for the next ep

Wow i never head about this before.

can you please do one on the goryeo-khitan war and on the famous general, Kang Gam Chan who’s on par with Yi Soon Shin as one of Korea’s generational one of a kind generals

Thats why the fracticide rule plays a key role in these territories. Before we comment on historical events we should consider the culture, the religion, the territory and most important the time (era) to understand the motive. Otherwise it is easy to criticize the historical events such fractricide or dewshirme system, that they were tyranic, despotic actions.

@tacidar558

3 ай бұрын

From the point of view of the 21th century of course such things are strange to us, killing a brother? Wtf. But as you can see also from the video, if the rulers dont kill their brothers, the folk, the people will slaughter their brothers in civil wars...

@adamsnow4979

3 ай бұрын

Even medieval Islamic law fracticide is a despicable crime. I don’t know how they use to go around this

@segwhkamaza6447

3 ай бұрын

​@@adamsnow4979its ruled as "if its going to bring instability and lead to civil peoples death its correct to kill competition"

@adamsnow4979

3 ай бұрын

@@segwhkamaza6447 they used to kill their brothers old or young ambitious or not. It didn’t even matter what their opinions was only paranoia of power mattered. As for stability arguably the decline of the ottomans was because of one incident of fratricide The competent son of suleiman the magnificent was unlucky and fell prey whereas the useless one became sultan after him

Nicely done

History. The greatest show on earth.

@sou713

3 ай бұрын

Amen to that

nice naration

Make a video on the mughal empire and Silesian wars

It would be great if you created an episode of the ottomans rival in the east, Safavids, and their great shah Abbas I

I'm not sure if I missed it... But what happened to Timur after he sees the Ottoman reawakening? And why didn't he support a side during the civil war.

@KingsandGenerals

3 ай бұрын

Timur died in 1405

@ksagitarius

3 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals No heir?

@KingsandGenerals

3 ай бұрын

@@ksagitarius yep, with their problems with civil wars in Iran and Central Asia

@thomasrinschler6783

3 ай бұрын

@@ksagitarius There was a succession crisis after Timur died which ran from 1405 through 1411, after which Timur's son Shah Rukh basically withdrew Timurid influence to the Euphrates. Anatolia is after all quite a long way from Samarkand and Herat. (Although you'll often hear that the Timurid Empire collapsed after Timur, Shah Rukh held everything between the Euphrates and India firmly until his long reign ended in 1447, and *that* is when the Timurids started to crumble).

@mehmetkayraozer9164

3 ай бұрын

​​​@@ksagitarius it was nearly impossible for muslim rulers to die without an heir, since they had both multiple wives and concubines. They suffered from many successors rather than no successors.

Next one quick

Day 3 Do you have any plans to join armchar tv

Family. family is great...

For those who are confused; the term "Ulema" means scholar class

Historia Turcji jest bardzo interesująca, a także chwalebna. Nie mogę powiedzieć tego samego o Polsce. Zazdrość.

@muratevren2857

3 ай бұрын

Bro, you're Polish yourself, that is why the history of your own country may seem dull to you. For me, as a Turk, the entire Polish history is pretty damn interesting. The struggle against the Teutonic Order, the formation of Rzeczpospolita, many wars with Russians, Swedes, Ottomans and finally the nationalist uprisings of 19th century are my favorite episodes.

@suleymansavran1512

3 ай бұрын

@muratevren2857 bunu kendi tarihine düşman olan biri olarak mı söylüyorsun yoksa sadece Avrupa nin tarihini merak ettiğin için mı? Yada batı hayranlığı mı?. Doğunun ve Güneyin sultanları ve padişahları bütün dünyanın ilgisini çeker. Batı da benim ilgimi çeken pek bisey yok gibi bisey.

Ottoman empire remake is back? Bring it on!

I thought you are going to cover the jalali uprising