Play Conflict of Nations for FREE on PC, iOS or Android: con.onelink.me/kZW6/THTA001 Receive a Unique Starter Pack, available only for the next 30 days!

The fact that Conflict of Nations specifically sponsors every Civil War movie youtube video is humorous.

@damegertrudevonbraundawg4659

Ай бұрын

Didn't you know we weren't suppose to notice that? lol lol

@geriatricmillennial.5160

Ай бұрын

Yes, I thought it was just me. I noticed that too.😂

@PrimerCinePodcast

Ай бұрын

Same on the Chris Stuckmann review, super weird

@deenaprice1524

Ай бұрын

I wasn't paying attention! What is the tea? I might go back and look specifically for this.

@carltontaylor6500

Ай бұрын

Civil war didn’t end the way you wanted…Come play conflict of nations 😂

The movie is purposefully trying to put you in a spot where you have no idea what’s going on. Like many Americans viewing wars outside of their country, the movie feels like they’re taking civil wars in a foreign country and putting in an American style to it.

@georgekatogiritis7355

Ай бұрын

As it is we know what’s going on in the USA these days, the illegal migration, the transgender madness, BLM , funded wars in Ukraine and Palestine and the sympathizers which don’t see that they American first.

@nother_hed

13 күн бұрын

there's a lot of intentional ambiguity in it. I started watching wondering which side I was on and gave up after a while because I didn't have enough context. Because it's so vague the movie really doesn't pick sides. More provocative than I expected.

@reza_dc2

11 күн бұрын

so is the WF like a liberal army and the president is suppose to be a republican like trump?

@jmansfield8554

3 күн бұрын

@@reza_dc2No, man. They INTENTIONALLY avoided all that.

I think it's worth noting the scene in which Lee deletes the photo she took of Sammy dead in the car. I interpreted Jessie and Lee as characters swapping places. As Lee's walls come down, Jessie's go up.

@ricardoalves1004

Ай бұрын

Jessie also asked Lee if Lee would take a picture of her dying if she was shot, giving your interpretation another layer

@jacobstaten2366

Ай бұрын

That, or hypocrisy. She would gladly take pictures of other dead people but not her co-workers. Throughout the movie she loses her tolerance to the violence, but if she were being honest with herself, that should have been where she quits. Instead, she makes the exception for her friend and keeps going.

For me, the ambiguity worked just fine. I read it as, no matter our politics, if we can’t connect with eachother on a human level, we risk something like this actually happening…

@antoniodennis8811

Ай бұрын

Same here, I liked how it focused on the journalists and their journey

@Regulativeconclusions

Ай бұрын

Only one side of the country is jailing and charging people for political reasons….

@lesvampyres5429

18 күн бұрын

@@Regulativeconclusions No, stop lying. One side is trying to overthrow Democracy for a wannabe dictator, foreign tyrants, fascist billionaires, and Oligarchs.

@liferealgood

6 күн бұрын

@@Regulativeconclusionsboth sides have their issues.

@Regulativeconclusions

6 күн бұрын

@@liferealgood yep,and social media, th big tech giants, every establishment politician and bureaucrat are all against one side, you may trust daddy government but historically they tend to screw over my people so it's impossible for me to

Excellent work. People are hair-splitting and nit-picking this film to discredit it, but the core message remains undeniable: _Is this what you want for America?_

@hjung5579

Ай бұрын

So the only way for a country to split is to have a civil war? What if there was a way to separate without violence?

@neowuwei7851

Ай бұрын

Only one side is threatening a civil war if their Orange cult leader is not elected in November.

@davidfinch7407

Ай бұрын

Well, I'm not so sure that was the core message. Although vague, the President can be seen as a liberal caricature of Trump. (He wasn't elderly or senile, so he didn't resemble Biden; but he was a little pudgy and his speech was full of exaggeration, which reminds me of someone else...they might as well have made his skin orange.) Yes, the war is shown as horrible...but in the end, the "anti-Trump" forces are victorious, he is killed in the Oval Office, and if the message is too vague for some, he is executed by a black female soldier (rather unlikely as black females make up a very, very small part of the combat soldiers of the armed forces. Choosing her as the executioner could not have been a coincidence but had to be a deliberate message: leftist propaganda is that minorities and women hate Trump.) In the end, despite all the horror that preceded it, the victors are shown not as sad or regretful for the war, but as jubilant, there was upbeat music, and the impression is left not that "you shouldn't do this", it's more like "It will be horrible but it will be worth it as long as we get the bastard." Or maybe the message IS what you say, but the way to avoid this happening to us is, according to the producer and director and a very liberal Hollywood, "don't elect Trump".

@wolf2966

Ай бұрын

That and the journey of desensitization to violence and chaos

@user-pr5vx7mp1x

Ай бұрын

Yes, it is called predictive programming so that we get it and decide not to fight against their agenda because it's scarey. What ever happen to valor..."Give Mr freedom or give me death" . This movie is all about discouraging American valor into fear and letting Confederate states (leftist) take over like Texas and California. PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING.

Sammy didn't sacrifice himself, the rest of the journalist killed him. That each of their ego driven purpose for engaging a clearly dangerous situation is what finally breaks dunsts character.

@atauzedaking

Ай бұрын

Nah Jess got them killed fr, all she had to do was stay in the truck🤦🏽‍♂️ like that scene pissed me off so heavy 😤

@lokokrz.gaming

Ай бұрын

​@@atauzedakingjust like she got lee killed 😂

@shpresim43

23 күн бұрын

She got 4 people killed!

@Player-gx1eo

18 күн бұрын

​@@atauzedakingsame with the last scene

I saw this a few nights ago and it stuck with me. It’s been a long time since I had a theater experience like that.

@frankswif3y

Ай бұрын

Same here. It was very disturbing and when we left the theater there was a car circling the parking lot and I was scared. The movie freaked me out.

@JavierMartinez-il6od

Ай бұрын

@@frankswif3y😂

@timothylopez8572

Ай бұрын

🤔 you mean the terrorists demanding more hostages or they hurt people are real? WORSHIPPING A MAN WHO PAINTS HIMSELF GOLD NOT ORANGE AS INFALLIBLE? 🤔 Very interesting

@frankswif3y

Ай бұрын

@@JavierMartinez-il6od 😂

@PRBBEUSMC

Ай бұрын

Liberals

If the film had gone into the weeds of the “why” and “how” audiences would be bringing their own beliefs and biases into, thereby missing the point of the film. By keeping it vague, Garland gives us a space to imagine the idea of a war at home.

@AsymmetricalCrimes

Ай бұрын

But most people have never been in a war, much less a civil war so any imagined conflict they would have on US soil would most likely be inaccurate. The movie could have showed us a realistic depiction of a modern American Civil War with all its socioeconomic and geopolitical consequences. But instead the movie takes the easy route by making it vague. Its disappointing and lazy.

@TheNwr1

Ай бұрын

@@AsymmetricalCrimesThat’s kind of the point. There are so many war films (or action films with war as a backdrop) that don’t really fill you in on the details and intricacies of the conflicts they use. And when we watch them, we accept whatever narrative, or lack thereof, that they give us. (As an aside, I think that more speaks to people’s suspension of disbelief than an unwillingness to engage with the politics behind the violence: you have to accept some things in a narrative for the story to work, just inherently). Still the film adds in details that make me wonder if it’s trying to be smart. Like, pairing California and Texas together….surface-level, it kinda doesn’t make sense. But realistically speaking, large parts of both states are conservative, with liberal politics being much more common in cities and on thf coasts. They also both have access to essential resources you’d need to wage and maintain a war. So, if you really know about California and Texas, a union between them does make sense. But you can arrive at the same conclusion from saying ‘well, they’re both big, so why not make them combine into one of the major sides’ which is kinda…head-empty? Not bad but just not the best of reasons narratively. What I’m getting at is, this movie makes a lot of narrative decisions that can be made from either a very informed or completely uninformed perspective. I don’t know if I should view its choices as smart if it really isn’t trying to be.

@Player-gx1eo

18 күн бұрын

Without a backstory is just a warpictures movie. Needs more dept

@goodstuff6006

17 күн бұрын

Someones in denial

I just saw this movie and I love the small indications of Kirsten actually being unable to be desensitized and her humanity essentially floods back in and she's almost intrigued at the moments that she sees that Jesse loses parts of her humanity. I also loved how crucial moments of her characters walls breaking down and how we see through her eyes in general are seen through a camera lense, not a photo, but genuinely she has different focul length when we're supposed to see through her eyes. It accentuates these crucial moments for her, without a picture. Her mental camera, which was just as important. Then she sees the flowers in the middle of potentially dying and she let herself drift into that humanity a little bit, ironically also desensitized. The ability to stop and look at the flowers in the middle of hiding for your life is twisted. Honestly this movie was straight up art

As a reporter why didn’t Joel have a tape recorder for the President’s quote?

@wolf2966

Ай бұрын

Probably got destroyed or didn’t have one I mean it’s civil war not as easy to obtain things

@KRobinson-ko1ne

Ай бұрын

I was wondering that myself

@rabbit32073

Ай бұрын

As soldiers, why did they have an entire firefight before popping the first flash bang?

@giveitathink6749

Ай бұрын

Probably ran out of Canadian money.

@mukeshuiling

22 күн бұрын

Maybe the soldier dose, they equipped with a camera.

When Lee (Kirsten Dunst) is shot at the end of the movie, it is inconclusive if she died. There was no visible blood and she was wearing a bulletproof vest. Since the combatants were shooting submachine guns, which fire pistol ammo, it is very plausible that bullets only knocked her out.

@98bocinas

Ай бұрын

if she survived we would've seen that in the movie. but i also found it surprising bc of her vest

@user-hx2ve8sy6b

Ай бұрын

At that range, with automatic weapons, are you kidding? The vest isn't protecting the major arteries in your legs, or arms, or your neck or head. And there's no guarantee that multiple strikes are going to be kept out.

@gokaren420

Ай бұрын

Dead

@abadazadytgaming7200

22 күн бұрын

There was blood coming from her head, you can clearly see it when she's on the floor 😂

@csmooney

21 күн бұрын

@@abadazadytgaming7200 There was absolutely no blood in that scene. A head shot would have blown out the front of her face. Her shirt is white and her hair is blonde, and there is not a trace of blood on either. Furthermore, the carpet is RED.

Thanks for watching! Next up, check out our video analyzing another recent hit indie film, Anatomy of a Fall: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p3WA1suAeK_gc9o.html

I think that y’all don’t understand the movie. This isn’t a movie about a war, this is a movie about journalism, questioning the journalism, not the USA civilization

@natalie6862

Ай бұрын

Yeah I agree, that moment where Dunst’s character talks about that was very meaningful

@anomalyxd825

Ай бұрын

That would be fine if the movie wasn’t called “civil war”. You can take the theme you just mentioned and apply that to any conflict that involves journalism. So then if they were barely going to show the actual civil war, then why make a movie about one in the first place.

@Strider1633

Ай бұрын

You don't understand it too. As far as I see, It's an open threat that if Trump wins the elections, he will become a dictator and the country will be plunged into Civil War. That's why the narrative tries to stay neutral in nature. Factions or parties don't matter, defeating the dictator (namely Trump) does. That's the message.

@Strider1633

Ай бұрын

You don't understand it too. As far as I see, It's an open threat that if Trump wins the 2024 elections, he will become a dictator and the country will be plunged into a civil war. That's why the narrative tries to stay neutral and bipartizan. Factions or parties don't matter, defeating the dictator (named Trump) and saving democracy does. That's the message.

@leonardobraynen1524

Ай бұрын

​@@anomalyxd825it was about the *IMAGINATION* of one and what would likely trigger it or escalate it to all out war in heavily populated cities amongst the populace. The military vs. Civilian terrorist combatants.... Saw when the white "American" woman blew up the protesters???

I watched the whole movie and never knew wtf was happening

@MumboSauceRadio

14 күн бұрын

Facts.

"The thing people don't realize about the Gear Wars is that it was never about the gears!"

As a veteran this movie disturbed me

@ricksmith4736

Ай бұрын

DEI Hire?? LOL

@marksmith4627

12 күн бұрын

@@ricksmith4736 Racist? Yep, you are.

It wasn’t quite what I expected but I enjoyed the film nevertheless. It almost felt like a coming-of-age or road trip buddy movie at times. I agree with this take - Dunst’s character talking about sending images as a warning was the ‘aha’ moment for me.

The most unrealistic thing about this movie is California and Texas joining forces.

@c5vette739

20 күн бұрын

So funny

@theactiveactivist515

17 күн бұрын

It's very possible. All that needs to happen is the same party monopoly in both states. Texas has talked about secession. Parts of California have talked about secession. The secessionist just need to get state power. Then it would be possible.

@lissaC.W.

8 күн бұрын

They have said this in the past about modern westernization never falling into dictatorship. That’s why people would question why so many Jews never left Germany when Hitler took over because it was slow moving and it was kind of inconceivable to them at the time. Which many world history scholars have debated with other people who have said that the US will never fall into a dictatorship. Which ridiculous because in the end the constitution is just a piece of paper we can absolutely fall. If a large mass of the civilians loses its senses.

@teresamann6977

2 күн бұрын

The two largest states is the reason but not likely.

California and Texas teaming up lost me. That will never happen.

@ricksmith4736

Ай бұрын

Sending all of Austin TX, back to CA would happen....

@jasonlara1943

10 күн бұрын

some of california biggest counties fresno and kern are red. there is a lot of conservative farmers in the central valley. just the liberal cities over power the valley

@MrAlexkyra

10 күн бұрын

That's just a lack of imagination on your part.

the fact that a film like CIVIL WAR 2024 was made in itself is SCARY

great video! does anyone have any idea what's going on with the colorful paint at the college, or the snipers hair/nail polish? there's a motif here that i think i'm missing

@TheGosslings

Ай бұрын

Don’t ask don’t tell

You got it! You absolutely understood what this film was about!

when i saw the trailer for this film, i was disgusted. i thought it was going to be a sensationalized film capitalizing on the fears of the american public. honestly, given that it was a24 producing it, i should've known it wouldn't be like this. glad to know there's a deeper narrative going on underneath

Democracy is one's power over another. So when politicians say "our democracy is at stake," they don't mean the American people. They mean "their own power over the people is at stake."

@seanmtak7573

Ай бұрын

Yes change (our democracy) with “my career”

@GabrielCosta-po9rl

Ай бұрын

Well, not really. Democracy, as a concept, quite literally means "power to the people". What american politicians call democracy, however, is really just a dictatorship of the rich. We should strive for real democracy, not Democracy™

The quote you use is fucking hilarious. Scenes of violence being "surprisingly unpleasant". Talk about desensitized

The only issue I took with this film, and I thought it was overall a great movie, was how unrealistic I thought the way the journalists moved with the soldiers. How on earth are they able to get permission to stay with these front line combat soldiers documenting everything? I get that war photographers risk their lives and do go into active combat zones, but surely there’s no way they’d be that entrenched with the squads in the thick of firefights. Maybe someone with more knowledge can correct me if I’m wrong, but I just find it unbelievable considering they’d be a hindrance more than anything and an open target for the enemy given their lack of combat training.

@SoulBrute

12 күн бұрын

Yeah, not only were they distracting but having to cover them/pull them, didn't seem like an efficient way to operate.

@charlesshelton7989

4 күн бұрын

Just ask the journalists who tagged along with the US Marines when Iraqi freedom kicked off. Anything is possible with the right paperwork

@al28854

3 күн бұрын

@@SoulBrute those 'journalist' should be wearing helmets, also one of my cringe moments

Thanks for your point of view. I believe some of the negative criticism comes from many who have not served in the military or likely do not have any experience in war planning or fighting because their reviews are all based on modern action movies and dramas that they grew up watching instead of being actually deployed to a poor, ravaged foreign country and being looked at with great vitriol, threatened and/or shot at just because they’re an American. Simply put, people are scared. Living in a society where the powers that be have created a fear based existence and I don’t see this changing for a long, long time. My perspective comes from someone who’s been used around the world to satisfy the goals of the empire and who believes that as a result of our global expeditions and campaigns, we’ll eventually experience those pains in our homeland someday and I’m not happy about that, but I am a realist who knows enough to prepare for difficult times ahead. So I see the movie as a sort of documentary whose goal is to open our eyes to a reality that many Americans still deny. Many people may not think the events depicted in the film could ever happen but think of this, the U.S. is structured like a large version of Europe with states that mimic individual countries held together by the state’s promise to uphold the Constitution in which the mentalities of 21st century political leaders and citizens have clearly concluded, is just an old piece of paper. This format once proved that a massive civil war could and did occur and often history repeats itself, whether people want to believe it or not. Sure it’s just a movie, but it’s a serious one and there is a major message in it for us which is, war is truly hell and it’s not something that we should glorify nor something that we should ever hope occurs in our communities. Critics should stop trying to analyze this film like they’re watching some make believe superhero movie, an Oscar contender’s review or some political circus commentary akin to the events of the 2020 election. I suggest we watch it like we’re analyzing potential future “real world” events because the premise of this movie might be much closer than some of the many naive Americans think. From a military (not militia or political) perspective, often wartime strategic alliances form strategic partnerships which are not necessarily based ideological similarities. States like Texas and California both are very large populations (30-40 million residents), massive police and national guard forces and GNP’s that are comparable or larger than some of the current top ten percent of wealthiest countries on the globe. Texas was once its own republic and has governed that way since. An alliance of these to states and perhaps a third one of similar status and structure would be a major problem for DC politicians. Given today’s times, we need to hope for the best but only those who can’t see or hear won’t prepare for the worst. Most Empires haven’t lasted more the 500 years throughout history so, I think it’s very important for people to accept their possible future or that of their children, grandchildren or great grandchildren because we are definitely heading for a major change down the path of U.S. history. This fate is even foretold in the book of Revelation and in greater, specific detail in the “extra-biblical” text of 2nd Edras. Time and experience has proven the old Mark Twain quote that, “truth is stranger than fiction” I thought it was brilliant. It reminds me of a realistic Christopher Nolan movie with hints of an Apocalypse Now style vibe. The music took me to the post Vietnam era. Many wanted to know the cause of the war but the context of the war is not important. Most 21st century Americans (except the naive) know how this could happen. Overall, this movie was an essay warning us (Americans) to not let our politicians lead us in this direction because…, in a war everyone loses. A future cult classic movie for sure!

@aleahboone4323

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your summation and breakdown of the ideological aspects of the movie compared to where we are as a nation now. I haven't seen it yet, but I am looking forward to watching it with an open mind. Sometimes life imitates art, or vice versa. I appreciated your comment. Thank you for your service, and thank you for your perspective.

@tysonburns9535

Ай бұрын

Did you serve in the American army by chance?

@ange1098

Ай бұрын

Predictive programming, just like the Simpsons, this will happen to America in the very near future.

@gg836

Ай бұрын

Yes! This movie is also a window to American Foreign Policy. All this has been incited in most countries the average civilian watches on TV and thinks nothing of it. And whether it was internally or by external forces, The US will unleash its full brutal military violence amongst themselves. So they can have a taste of their own medicine.

@oneworldvideo

Ай бұрын

Excellent analysis!

Jessie, the Young journalist is responsible for the death of Kirsten Dunst’s character. Jessie was so ignorant she thought she was impervious the bullets.

@KRobinson-ko1ne

Ай бұрын

To be fair that’s the point I don’t think you’re supposed to condone her actions; only understand the inhuman demands of journalism

@fouchi3203

14 күн бұрын

she ruined 1h40 of entertainment in 10sec, not by the stupid young human mistake, but by taking a photo of it while it happened BECAUSE of her, i'm also not feeling okay about that tackle, you want to save someone from a line of fire you don't push them down and stay in the middle of the shot, you use your body weight and momentum to both get out of the way, but i'm nitpicking, i know the director wanted to show this particular shot but it could have been done better. She goes for a tackle they both get on the other side of the corridor, she sees she got shot and take a pic. I would not have been so disapointed

@GeminInnergy

7 күн бұрын

​@@fouchi3203 I so agree!!!

@al28854

3 күн бұрын

@@fouchi3203 sorry about you not getting that familiar old fashioned hollywoodized warm and fuzzy feeling kind of story ending to mainly satisfy the majority mentally passive movie audience. Hope that sense of quandary was alleviated with ice cream.

@fouchi3203

2 күн бұрын

@@al28854 sorry about you missing my point

I enjoyed this film for what it is, a jaw-dropping, heart-pounding, beautiful movie experience. I'm going again with family this time! Alex garland is a genius and thoroughly enjoy all of his films. Also, watching this film in IMAX is absolutely breath-taking!

Civil war is just a road trip to a battle scene in DC.

@jamsperky

Ай бұрын

Yep, I was unimpressed.

The D.C. siege was epic

I don’t understand why people would still be surprised that this kind of thing could happen in this country. The danger is real given how extreme and uncompromising some people’s beliefs have become. I have been getting ready for it since 2020. When it comes to that, I will fight to defend the values that I stand for and the people that I care about. No qualms and ambivalence from me at all.

"Let's have a war. Clean up this place!"

The one thing I hate about the movie other than the odd music choice is how it just ends abruptly

Speaking as someone coming to age in the 1980's I remember how disturbing the premise of stories like "The Day After" and "Red Dawn" were of Cold War "what ifs" The former being the most disturbing of the two. I'm kind of expecting this to be kind of the same thing. BTW: Why is my "rust bucket" state part of the loyalist faction? Do I need to move?

There's a true war in Ukraine right now. Russia bombed my city just today. I feel it so weird that somewhere people still want to watch any related to wars content as an enjoyment... Wars are horrible. People are killed, raped, injured, left homeless. Real wars aren't entertaining.

@fabrisseterbrugghe8567

Ай бұрын

As someone who's briefly been in a war zone, I completely agree. War is not our natural state and we shouldn't glorify it in entertainment.

@Dapryor

Ай бұрын

That’s what the film is saying. It’s an anti war message.

@brya9681

Ай бұрын

Enjoying fictional conflict, especially one that's very obviously anti war isn't bad. This is such a dumb, virtue signal.

@Corvetjoe1

Ай бұрын

Mic Drop! The issue is that we Americans are sick people. War has been occurring (abt. 230 of our 247 year existence) since the beginning of the nation and today, the greatest selling video games and movies are nearly all war themed. The fact that most of the citizens here have never experienced the annihilation of others around them and the massive destruction of society’s institutions and infrastructure has lead to a mass hypnosis of society in which the atrocities of “real” wars are desensitized with the belief that that type of human carnage would never happen here in the U.S. I sure hope they’re right but from my own life experiences, I think it’s less of an if, and more of a when.

@MattBuild4

Ай бұрын

And yet the whole character arc for the protagonist are about getting the perfect shot no matter what........ There are plenty of movies that convey this message in earnest and dont pussyfoot around the idea that war is horrific. Movies like All Quiet on the Western Front, Stalingrad, Come and See, Deer Hunter, Threads, Sama

I seen the movie and i enjoyed it. I did notice how the Western Forces seemed to have POC in their ranks while the Govt forces were almost all white save for the Secret Service. Moreover, the soldier portrayed by Jesse Plemons was tending to a mass grave where the corpses were mostly POC. His whole "what kind of american" bit was actually him separating "real" american (read White) from Not american (POC). He then unalived the two asian reporters at the site then turned his attention to the reporter played by Wagner Moura because he didn't buy that was American even though Moura said he was from Florida. Soldier Jesse Plemons even said out loud he thinks Reporter Moura is from Central or South America, meaning NOT america. But maybe im readying into because I am Latinx.

@Dapryor

Ай бұрын

What’s latinx?

@captainspacebones3795

Ай бұрын

@@Dapryor Latinx is the gender inclusive form of Latina/Latino. It's kinda like a fighting word in my community so I wouldn't encourage you use it in conversation unless you wanna get an earful about *checks notes* real academia de espana, the gay agenda, and white people telling brown people how to live

@DogeickBateman

Ай бұрын

I've never met a single Latino or Latina who called themselves Latinx

@Dapryor

Ай бұрын

@@DogeickBateman probably told to call herself that by a university professor.

@Dapryor

Ай бұрын

@@DogeickBateman I live in a diverse part of the country and I don’t think my Hispanic friends are even aware that that’s a thing.

I really liked the urban combat showed in this film. Easily the best part. It felt so real and visceral like you were witnessing something that could happen in your neighborhood. The sound design was excellent as well.

Saw a roughy cut of the movie a couple months back to give feedback about what we thought of it so far. I haven’t seen the final product yet, but from what I remember my biggest criticism was the ambiguity of the conflict. It’s felt sloppy, but like you said that way have been the point. That from a certain perspective war just becomes a mess of decontextualized violence from people not living it day to day. The friend I saw it with hated the movie because of this, and doesn’t wish to see it again. She mostly found the whole thing silly. What I liked most about it was that it was made from the perspective of war journalists, I think that’s genuinely its biggest strength and saves it from being just another war/action movie for me.

Well I feel achieved, I didn’t miss most of the message from the filmmaker. I think it was an excellent display and actually conveys recent feelings I’ve had toward world events

TX and CA probably joined in the film as not to make it seem as though “Left Bad, Right Good”, or vice versa

@al28854

3 күн бұрын

about choosing politics over the constitution, or vice versa.

What the hell was the war even about

@neoasura

15 күн бұрын

The President was serving a 3rd term, launching drone attacks on civilians, disbanded the FBI, and allowed the killing of Journalists. In short, they made him out to be a dictator that refused to leave.

@luisviscencio9615

8 күн бұрын

Taxes

@gusadico

5 күн бұрын

They never tell the best indications came from the scene when Joe is talking with the older journalist. They coment that the president was on a 3rd term, he dissolved congress, the FBI and was bombing US cities. We also hear in a talk between Lyn and the young girl that Lyn became a legend for shooting the "Antifa masscer" when she was in college which is probably at least 15 years before the film's events. My take is that polirazation in the US was leading to this carnage between civilian events (like if Charlottsville irl scalated more and was frequent) and probably a civil war was brewing. Then, president Nick Offerman probably used it as scuse to declare martial law and take dictatorial powers which was the tipping point for several states rebelling against the federal govt.

I came away making a mental note to add to my 5.56 inventory.

When you, "beat the war drum," it seldom goes unnoticed. If you aren't mad enough to fight to the death over it, you aren't REALLY mad. Maybe, remember that before being manipulated into being mad about the next new thing to be mad about.

Thank you for this video

Most depressing movie I've ever seen. 10/10 everyone should see this

3:20-3:30. These lines are from the Division 1 trailer 😉

Willing to pay more than a few bucks to view the cutouts left on editing room floor.

Camera man never dies…

I enjoyed how unpolorizing this film was, not like captured media is in America. But arms are limited also, so who’s in charge of producing the machine?

Good review of a great movie

It really felt like the message was that after a while it doesnt matter how it started or who believes what. Eventually it's just fighting for the sake of winning

Jesse Plemons showed again in this film how underrated of an actor he is. Genuinely one of the best in the world that whole sequence with him was terrifying

This movie didn’t make sense. The writer is extremely disconnected with reality. However, I did love the aspect of shooting from the photographers perspective. It showed the terrors they encounter along the way.

Civil War gave too much information. Audiences are wondering more about why things are that way then the movie's message. Annihilation gave less info and let people come to their own conclusions about what it all means. People are talking more about why California and Texas join forces than about the meaning of the movie. (And why is it called the Western Forces when Texas isn't a Western state?)

@TealWolf26

Ай бұрын

The presentation felt strange to me. I was acutely aware the whole time that I was a tourist in an alternate timeline.

"Non western conflict " proceeds to put images from Haiti

@gosnooky

Ай бұрын

Haiti is not in the West, it's in the Global South.

@Daniel-jk7pe

Ай бұрын

@@gosnooky what u mean? Its in the western hemisphere and its north of the equator🤔

Civil war is a well made movie, the last 25 minutes is breathe taking

Saw the movie. But sad to say, for all the advertisement, the movie did not have the development it needed to maintain the films hipe!! I found it vague and empty. It seemed like showing violence just foe the sake of violence. Sorry, but although understanding where the film tried to go, it did not get there. I got the political reference to the current political situation, but this film never got to that level...😒😪😴🤕🤒🥴😵‍💫

Why would the Pres leave his Impenetrable bunker? Why not just push her out the way, they were driving too fast for them to stop and basically get shot, too vague for me. Cali and Texas mmmmh I kinda understand that but I’m sure Arizona and Nevada would be in that alliance too

@Music-Is-Real-Love

17 күн бұрын

100%.

lol conflict of nations ad again

Revelation 17-18 Woe! Woe to you, great city, where all who had ships on the sea became rich through her wealth! In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’

You could either have done this without the spoilers or provided a warning that there were spoilers.

@user-pk6qx1ck8v

6 күн бұрын

Why would you watch a "Movie explained" video before actually watching the movie🤦🤦

Really? Did she say the journalists are there to tell the truth? Oh, maybe it's a 1st WW1 movie.

@Music-Is-Real-Love

17 күн бұрын

💯%.

Evil always becomes the end result when people force what is DEEMED "good".

Someone here mentioned that the story about the war itself is vague so that it prevents people from bringing in bias and their own beliefs. I think that is true, because someone else also pointed out that even though the WF technically won, America is in pieces, like how do you move on without any grudges or rebellion? My take on this film is that in a war, being right does not matter because the cost that it comes with is huge. In this case it came with a torn country.

As a Ukrainian woman, who is staying in the warzone country, this movie was deeply offensive to me. There was no deeper message than the one about the journalists, who went out of their way to mess around the battlefield, leading to the death of soldiers, just to get a perfect shot.

@silverstar4289

Ай бұрын

Yes. The man and young girl were responsible for their companions deaths.

@ronblitz

Ай бұрын

Cry about it 😊

in the post-apocalyptic world presented in Civil War, what are they going to do with those photos anyway?

@undead9999

5 күн бұрын

Post apocalyptic? How? It is just thr USA which is in shambles. By that logic what would they have done with frontline pictures of ww2? It was a much bigger conflict.

I keep telling people, it doesn’t matter how we got here, it matters that we’re here.

For one, it's ridiculous that so many states stuck with the original regime. For another, it's infuriating that they called the movie civil war whenever it it's really about journalism. They should have called it snapshot or headshot or something.

REFERENCIA A CHILE 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱

What's there to explain? It's a pretty straight forward movie...

It would be very unlikely that California and Texas would team up for any reason.

This is what they are showing the American people what is coming.

It wasn't trying to say anything, it wasn't that complex of a movie

It’s not hard to figure out confused why people couldn’t get the point

@wolf2966

Ай бұрын

Because they can’t see past their own bias’s

The movie is misnamed - it should have been called "Objective Journalism" - it's not a war movie.

This movie is a cautionary tale of what can happen in the United States if fascism is allowed to take hold.

@KRobinson-ko1ne

Ай бұрын

One fascist does another takes its place

The Ambiguity was clever. You could not find a side to sympathize with for most of the film. which reflects real life, society is experiencing and existential crisis through a loss of trust in all factions of the American politic. Also the effect is to remain somewhat neutral as a viewer, until there is a clear goal directed at the removal of the dictator President...until that climax you travel along feeling lost and uncomfortable about who are the good guys, which is kind of the point. If America does reelect a dictator the scale of any civil war scenario will be very different to the movie. Missiles and such would be the order of the day, not so much this conventional ground war in the film, if the military divides then much more devastating weapons and destruction will result.

I think it is about the media and their pursuit about bigger stories without telling any story. Who were the men hanging in the car wash? That doesn't matter. Obviously there is a story there, but it gets untold. When they see the battle at night in the distance, that attracts their attention and they pursue that. With the sniper scene as well, or the Plemons scene. Who are these people and what motivates them? Actually their whole journey basically gets ignored as they chase the biggest fish, the president. In their pursuit of this big story, the viewer realizes that no story is being told. These journalists are like moths in the dark, and the light-bulb they gather around is power. I think as an audience member you can feel it. Why are Texas and California together? What is the Antifa Massacre? Why are the highway systems 'vaporized?' You never find out because the camera pursues the action. Sammy gets killed. He was the only true story teller, and he get erased as the team pursues the bigger 'story.' Jessie, who takes a photo of Lee Smith when they first meet, and also takes a photo of Smith when she dies and departs, captures in her lens the media as being part of the story, especially Joel who is a writer but doesn't try and find the story, but wants to become the story himself. He is not an observer, he is part of the action. And Jessie taking pictures in the college shoot-out scene, and the death of the president, captures Joel as a part of the action. When the group is in the small town, Jessie takes a photo of Smith, but not one of Joel when he tries on a hat. Joel wants to be the story and is disappointed when Jessie refuses the photo. Ultimately I think the film is about the failure of media to tell real stories.

@Music-Is-Real-Love

17 күн бұрын

💯%.

While I appreciate the viewpoint put forward by this channel, I’m somewhat struck by the absence of the obviously harsh criticism about modern journalism that Civil War puts forward, especially since that is its main theme. I also disagree with your interpretation of the ending, upon which both times I saw it in theaters, the audience gasp in betrayal by the Jesse character. Let me offer another interpretation. Prompted by your negative review of this film I saw it a second time. I'd like to offer this to convince you to reconsider your initial review. Civil War examines the state of modern journalism. A free press is a fundamental pillar of liberty in a democracy. The moment journalism prioritizes bias over objectivity, it transforms news into propaganda, and democracy into authoritarianism. The premise of the film is that an authoritarian president has ignored the peaceful transfer of power after serving two terms and stayed on for a third term thereby sparking a civil war. Texas and California, two state at opposite ends of the cultural political spectrum, have united under the banner of Western Forces. The threat of authoritarianism to classical liberal values is larger than the ideological differences they share. This is a completely believable situation because to take the opposite view would be insanity. The Western Forces are engaged in armed combat against the US military. The President has killed journalists, used the Air Force against civilians, and disbanded the FBI. However, the Western Forces are closing in on Washington D.C. and the war appears to be drawing to a close. Against this backdrop, the protagonist, Lee, a middle-aged war photojournalist regarded as the best in the business, prepares to go to D.C. to get an interview with the President. She will be traveling with Joe, a journalist her age, and Sammy an older peer and mentor. Juxtaposed to Lee is Jesse, a young wannabe photojournalist who idolizes Lee. Jesse manipulates her way into the car with Lee and travels to D.C. The rest of the film is a compare/contrast of Lee, a photojournalist who embodies the struggle between objectivity and emotional connection to the subjects she photographs, and Jesse, the reckless, narcissistic, opportunistic upstart who represents the extreme end of detachment, where self-promotion supersedes any sense of responsibility or connection. Lee believes detachment is necessary for objectivity and integrity, but it prevents her from forming bonds with those impacted by the war. As the story progresses, Jesse finds new ways to get herself into trouble by never heading her older colleagues’ calls for restraint. Jesse constantly puts the lives of her peers and herself in jeopardy. Jesse’s reckless behavior ends up costing Sammy his life. Sammy's death highlights the human cost of Lee's detachment and finally shakes Lee of her false belief. Witnessing his death forces her to confront the emotional impact of the war. Lee realizes she can have empathy with her peers and subjects while still maintaining objectivity and integrity. Jesse’s arc highlights a new wave of journalism that elevates self-preservation and opportunistic exploitation over empathy. Jesse throws herself into dangerous situations to capture the "perfect shot" without considering the risks to herself or others. This prioritizes her career and self-importance over the safety of her colleagues. Jesse ends up unintentionally causing Lee’s death and capitalizes on the situation to potentially become the next "important" photojournalist. This exemplifies her self-serving nature and lack of emotional connection. This lack of empathy ultimately hinders her ability to truly capture the human cost of war. Civil War emphasizes the importance of finding a balance between objectivity and empathy. The film seems to argue that complete objectivity carries a heavy price. Journalists need to find a way to care while maintaining integrity in their reporting, especially in a world ravaged by violence and authoritarianism. True journalism requires a balance between objective reporting and recognizing the human cost of the story. A more global theme is that we in the west enjoy great liberties that should not be taken for granted and that objectivity is key to maintaining those freedoms. Group think silo’s that excuse partisan journalism and cheer the omission of key facts that may lead to empathy for the “other side” is a exactly what this movie is warning us against.

@cameronfield4617

Ай бұрын

If yiu think this is The Take giving a negative review I'd hate to see what you think of their actually negative reviews They didn't give a negative review of this film

@joeytosi

Ай бұрын

@@cameronfield4617 it’s worse. Im suggesting The Take gave a purposely misleading review of this film because they don’t want to engage with the real (and obvious) themes. The women on this channel are smart and have given thoughtful and accurate in depth analysis to so many other movies with more complicated themes and plots. That’s why we come to this channel. It’s clear that this was willful misrepresentation. Consider that they say that Jesse is carrying the torch for Lee. Lee is dead because of Jesse, and so is Sammy, Evan and Nelson. Yet this is not addressed in their analysis. I don’t know the motive. I just know their review feels like a gaslight.

@cameronfield4617

Ай бұрын

@joeytosi I do think that is a part that is somewhat overlooked so I agree with you there. But Jesse isn't exactly intentionally causing these deaths. She is more indirectly responsible, and I would argue it wasn't her fault with Sammy and the other 2 guys, yeah she jumped in the car but she wasn't the one driving As for Lee, yes it is more direct but again I don't think she was trying to get Lee killed, and yeah it might be a bit shocking but I don't consider it a betrayal, the point is that it shows that over the course of this film Jesse has begun to become as desensitised and distant as Lee appeared to be, just as Lee was beginning to become more and more affected by her job. Lee straight up said if Jessie died she would photograph her corpse so Jessie is just returning the favour. I don't know it just seems like you are characterising Jessie as a straight up villain, whilst I agree I think the Take should have discussed her more I think they touched on the whole point of her character, the destruction of the soul and empathy in a career where you have to be desensitised in order to function I took criminology as a major at Uni and worked on a project where I had to gather 25 case studies of infanticide and had to type out in detail how babies were intentionally or unintentionally murdered by their parents, and I'm not talking dropping a toaster into the bath or forgetting about them swimming, some of it was dark. I had been become desensitised tl this sort of stuff because I wrote my thesis and most of my expertise is in the Russian, French and Chinese revolutions so these descriptions didn't bother me, it was just what I had to do. But my teammates were incapable of reading some of what I wrote, and I have friends who I can't even talk about it to because they aren't desensitised to the horrors of the world But that doesn't make me any less human, nor does it make Jessie a villain or someone who should be condemned. Jessie doesn't know that Lee started to turn away from being desensitised to everything, she still thinks that's what it takes to make it in the career she wants to have

@joeytosi

Ай бұрын

@@cameronfield4617 First, I sincerely appreciate your viewpoint and your comment. Thank you for considering my contribution. Jesse is an opportunist. She put those around her in danger. If there is a villain in this film, it is Jesse. The main conflict with the protagonist Lee is with Jesse. That conflict points to the theme. I feel The Take is too smart to miss this and I feel manipulated by a reading of the movie that is obviously dubious.

@FL-uj7cs

17 күн бұрын

This is an essay on - I have no empathy for young people, their drive, their impulsivity - I want to assume malice even when something is adequately explained by stupidity - I don't understand journalism - I don't understand the effects of trauma - I am the victim because you don't agree with me

States will not align. Its always assumed that blue states are blue or red are just red. Im from Illinois and this state is red except for cook counties and at few others. Yet we are a blue state.

It could’ve been darker

This movie is like watching “ The 5 Day War” ( real life incident) in the USA. Maybe then; War Crimes, Genocide and war atrocities will be taken notice instead of intermission of the football game or reality stupidity show

Jessie wasn’t worth saving

What's ppsd?

@livianeves2012

29 күн бұрын

Ptsd - post traumatic stress disorder

Texas and California together??!!😂😂😂😂😂

While I liked the movie. I can speak for everyone when I say we wanted to know what the war was about.

Just hope nothing has to happen like the movie.

@ricksmith4736

Ай бұрын

How would you survive without Starbucks? LOL

It left out the inevitable collapse of Western Europe and Asia, with the United States occupied with their internal war, Russian would invade West, and China would start at Taiwan and move across Asia. Then present civilization would collapse into a medieval existence

A24 was enough already to know movies is not gonna have high cringe fight scenes

It's internal.

Feel like a hbo series would of been better, they would of set and explain the narrative a bit better

@wolf2966

Ай бұрын

Na they didn’t want to explain the narrative they put it perfectly while in the car “ we don’t ask questions we capture events so others ask questions thought in the beginning they lowkey say what caused the war you just need to pay attention

@user-pi6gu4yz7i

Ай бұрын

@@wolf2966 I see but still think the story is good, it would of been nice to sit down and explain it a bit better, I feel like we was thrown in the middle of the cluster f, would of been nice to see what happened for it to lead up to the civil war

Texas and California joining together is laughable.

I did think it was kinda odd to focus on the journalist rather than a regular family but I guess it skips all the political debate. I do like how he depicts violence. It’s not an action movie. The what kind of American scene is great but the race blind nature of the movie until that scene betrays the movie to me

yeah but......out of all the states you pair up Texas and California ?

I saw it this past Wednesday. It didn't take long for it to fall apart. I saw the entire movie and kept hoping that by the end it would explain what caused the war in the first place. It never said. The heavy set black guy was the most interesting character and he deserves recognition.

@Len124

Ай бұрын

It did: the president's third term and fascist grip on power triggered the war in an already highly polarized America. The choice of not being super specific about the cause and factions was for the same reason Texas and California were on the same side. It was about the tragedy of a civil war, but to make it super clear which side was which, like by putting Texas and California on opposite sides, would've been more polarizing, dividing the audience, and contradicting the message of the movie. Clearly the president was not a good guy, but Garland didn't want to make it an explicitly Left versus Right dynamic.

@MatthewKimble

Ай бұрын

The war is a framing device, not the point of the film. It's about the moral issues and importance of conflict photojournalism.

@stephenfoster1196

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Len124gee, I wonder who Garland was trying to portray? Another TDS hollyweirdo. All you people think is that people you disagree with are Nazi members. You are so delusional and brainwashed by MSM.

@tzz89

Ай бұрын

Go and watch John Wick if you need your films spoon-fed to you.

I seen movie on mothers day and it is VERY GOOD

Every fiction is based on some fact, but there isn't enough of "some fact" to ever make me believe that California and Texas would unite in a "civil war"--especially, when it's in the Texas Constitution that it can cede and become its own country--again. That said, if your movie is so great, then you wouldn't require five minutes of watching the scenery pass by to fill in the storyline gaps.

TX and CA joining forces. It would never happen in real life.