i love James Baldwin. so articulate and matter of fact

@1357zionprince

6 жыл бұрын

Joseph Léon. Great individual...very inspiring and motivating

Marlon Brando was one great person who always followed his moral compass never sold out on the injustice to his fellow man

@kurtay3232

10 ай бұрын

hes the only one on that table that suggested that we examine the human mechanism

It's amazing how this speech in its entirety is relevant today.

@bassreeves4043

8 жыл бұрын

+Jacolby Green It is "shameful" that this speech remains so resonant today.

@faith9chang

8 жыл бұрын

+Jacolby Green His speech will remain relevant until things change. In fact the rights hard won by the back woking class are being taken back. I think the argument now has to include class. Since James Baldwin, the establishment has created space for a new black middle class, out of necessity, and I think the black middle class are guided by self interest. Where are today's James Baldwins? Have they all joined the establishment? Under Eric Holder former black Attorney General, the Black liberation icon Assata Shakur is a terrorist. She was added to the FBI “Most Wanted Terrorist” list. Why are the Panthers and other political prisoners still locked up in prison in solitary confinement for over 30 years?

@bassreeves4043

8 жыл бұрын

James Mac Great point.

@agentsmidt3209

8 жыл бұрын

+James Mac "White guilt is dying" --good. No one should be hostage to something they didn't do. If your sibling or parent was a serial killer (and you had no knowledge), should you, your kids, grand kids be held liable and in contempt indefinitely?

@Gjacolby83

8 жыл бұрын

Agent Smidt Hostage? So racist white people are racist because the are hostage as results of sins of their fathers?

Thank you Joe Mankiewicz he hit the nail on the head when he stated that at 27:14 ."the negro is not the problem we are the problem to the negro"

@honestperson6280

6 жыл бұрын

Akyrah34 Vigier Joseph Mankiewicz was also the one who directed Sidney Poirier in his first film "No Way Out", a movie that took a provocative look at race relations.

Brando gotta love him

@val-schaeffer1117

6 жыл бұрын

I would do him in a heart beat

@yummer7694

6 жыл бұрын

Ha! me too!

@SexySkoChick

3 жыл бұрын

HE was SOO BEAUTIFUL! 🔥😏

@peggyharper

Жыл бұрын

I do love Brando❤

What Harry Belafonte says between 15:44-17:56 is everything!!!!! Like in order for systematic racism to end it's up to white people. This is just not a Black struggle, it's a human struggle. And I also agree with James Baldwin that this fight will cost people's lives. #BlackLivesMatter

@loke5551

7 жыл бұрын

Stay Fly ???????

@grintsgirl051

7 жыл бұрын

commodus What's up?!

@dstu8848

7 жыл бұрын

And the question is still the same as the one Baldwin points out at the end. It is nothing to do with who such terms label, or the difference between black and white, but to do with the drive to exclude and stigmatise groups, and to maintain the position and feelings of superiority of the dominant group. The same issue that also underpins the stigmatisation of 'immigrants' and the 'underclass' today

@sakogekchyan7366

7 жыл бұрын

D Stu If you look back in history the same supremacist tendencies could be seen in situations like the relationship between the Romans and the Celts of northern Europe. Now back then it wasn't based on race but more of a sense of cultural superiority. Human beings have a biological impulse towards tribalism and racism plays off of this tribalism. The tribalism was already there and the European invention of race gave it justification and allowed it to fester.

@dstu8848

7 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. And to deal with/diminish racism this needs to be fully acknowledged. Baldwin actually also made a similar point in his criticism of Uncle Tom's Cabin, that, among other problems, it never asks the question as to why white people were manifesting these forms of behaviour. We need to stop trying to only condemn racism, or to deal with it only on a moral level, and understand it as a product of humans and social organisation, and how this results in social hierarchies

It is really something to see a discussion from 57 years ago where celebrities and thinkers were more eloquent, insightful, deeply engaged on an intellectual and spiritual level than those we see today. I cannot help but think we have, in many ways, moved backwards from 1963.

Marlin brando....mentioned all minorities....amazing

@drkevinellsworth818

2 ай бұрын

This was about the civil rights march on Washington ?

@drkevinellsworth818

2 ай бұрын

The Black panelists concentrated on the day and what this march on Washington meant to Black people in the USA, that day! The lack of dealing with the racial problem at hand that day is why there was a march of 200k Black souls !

@MrMjolnir69

2 күн бұрын

We had a lifesize Marlin sculpture on our North Hollywood dwelling wall called Marlon .

I have to give Charleston and Brando credit they where not afraid to speak out, and lets not forget their lives and careers where put on the line. I don't see the same thrust in white celebrities any more.

@splendidtime1

8 жыл бұрын

+Lisa Jackson If you listen closely, They were putting black people secondly not first. They said thought it was about all people. But all people were not on the back of the bus or not allowed to got to the university. Or had to use the black bathroom. It was all word games. Charlton Heston proved to be a very racist man after the fact.

@lisajackson1476

7 жыл бұрын

Heston had Alheimaz....

@moonzink6592

7 жыл бұрын

Elle Morgan what did he do?

@johnnypastrana6727

6 жыл бұрын

Lisa Jackson, I experienced those times and civil rights was a popular cause celebre to be a part of then. There were so many famous people who marched and were a part of the civil rights movement of all races. The more popular side is the one that is spoken of here, yes even among the masses...not even close.

@Nero-ox5tw

4 жыл бұрын

That is because racism is nowhere near as prevalent in today's America.

Everybody pay attention to 10:15,When Brando ask the question,What excuse do we give ourselves for burning children with cattle prods?,he cut him off quick,there is no excuse,an I see Brando as someone who truly was concerned about human rights.

@kurtay3232

10 ай бұрын

he was the only one on that table who wanted to look at the mechanism of human hate

The poise these guys demonstrate. Must we not go back to that? They show anger without acting it. They show intelligence without flouting it. They show determination with grace. There is no better. Love for Humanity.

@clifftanton8385

Жыл бұрын

You touch my heart

@clifftanton8385

Жыл бұрын

We need more of this now more than ever for people to stand up for what is right and beneficial for the good of this country and for all the freedoms that all citizens of this country deserve and our country now as it stands needs this all of our problems climate change gun violence racism inequalities wage disparity have to be addressed God bless these wonderful men

@mrluvit8232

9 ай бұрын

well said

this should be required viewing for all students AND politicians today

Thanks. From back when TV still had part of a spine.

@leeterry3693

7 жыл бұрын

just thinking the same when I was watching.

Joe Mankiewicz forced the conversation towards the still unspeakable truth

Baldwin and Brando are my heroes.

I am here for James Baldwin 🙏

What was said about being one of the only countries to allow these discussions about civil rights being so wonderful and at the same time so horrible because we have to have such discussions in the first place was right on!

@honestperson6280

6 жыл бұрын

Toni Francis The sad part is, here we are 55 years later still having racial issues!

James Baldwin, as eloquent and forthright as ever. Belafonte is passionate and eloquent as well. He gets the "now" MLK spoke of.

What’s amazing about this discussion is the politeness and civility of everyone. No one is trying to get centerstage. There is a respect and a humility amongst everyone no one is looking for their moment, so to speak so often you see this today when celebrity personalities get together everyone is looking for their particular soundbite.

2016 and we're still talking the same topic..............

@ninosimone

8 жыл бұрын

smh

@grintsgirl051

8 жыл бұрын

Yup.

@ninosimone

8 жыл бұрын

smh

@drmayesmt

7 жыл бұрын

ninosimone x unfortunately it's still relevant.

@ninosimone

7 жыл бұрын

Bruno my comment was to say how sad the world is ..how the system is still ugly..we must continue to talk about it..I agree

Glad to know this exists, will watch over and over.

he ended it when they finally started to discuss the real problem

7 brilliant men who are speaking their thoughts with intelligence without screaming, yelling and forcing others to accept their opinions. Yes, let's go back to that time when people were able to have conversations with each other without forcing their opinions down the throats of other individuals.

Intelligent people talking and listening-look at the US now and try and find a programme with the same degree of focus.

@veoh112

5 жыл бұрын

Henry Ovalles reality tv is a television show for a reason. Wow

Brando was the bomb

WOW! Would be great to have programming like this again. Joseph L. Mankiewicz, a freedom activist/speaker for social justice...I had no idea. His films continues to be inspiration that I write from..always about the things people do. James Baldwin, always great to listen to him.

Imagine if we could have discussions like this on 'popular' talk shows.

@bryananicole6962

8 жыл бұрын

+cromagnum yes

@BernieHollandMusic

Жыл бұрын

These issues are not trivial enough for popular talk shows

@elginbolling337

Жыл бұрын

We used to have discussions like this on talk shows that’s why they were called talk shows. Nowadays these talkshows, I just vehicles for celebrities to plug the latest book the latest concert tour, their blog or podcast to gain soundbites for their next political or celebrity show and it’s seen as a self promotional tool talk shows in the old days were meant to be thought-provoking and informative because you wanted people to gain information and insight. It seems the populace with a lot more literate also.

@elginbolling337

Жыл бұрын

As a whole people are way too impatient nowadays to even endure, a show like this people would be complaining that it takes too long. Why don’t they get to the point blah blah blah because people in this culture like excitement they like controversy they like noise they like conflict and soundbites not information

So inspiring. You don't here this level of dialogue these days. All are so articulate and eloquent, and the struggle is still relevant today.

@BernieHollandMusic

Жыл бұрын

Not true - you can hear this level of dialogue today - it all depends whether you can be bothered to seek it out

You have to wonder if something like this could happen today? Imagine the great actors, writers and thinkers of today sitting around a table to discuss such crucial movements as these - it is difficult to do so. The 60s was a time of great potential, and it was crushed, and would never be allowed to happen again.

@XZagatoX

5 жыл бұрын

Look what the coward US government did when their greatest ever athlete spoke up. Rejected him the very next second, and for what? For an unjust and aimless war that they had no business getting involved with in the first place

wow. Much respect to all participants in that table. I didn't knew M. Brando was such an outspoken decent human being; read his bio in Wikipedia and came searching for footage. I'm pleasantly surprised. A very corageous human overall.

@capitanfuturo594

Жыл бұрын

Poor millenial 🤦🏻‍♂️ Marlon Brando was a genius as an actor and also as a human being. Wikipedia? seriously ? You better go read a book on Brando's biography.

@onionmhylis4382

Жыл бұрын

@@capitanfuturo594 His daughter would have begged to differ.

@sekarpertiwi4077

Жыл бұрын

@@capitanfuturo594 yeah Wikipedia about him really wild and too much gossip and there are Soo many bad biografi too about him. only his autobiography and his documentary tape i trust.

@kurtay3232

10 ай бұрын

she was mentally ill....

This is so amazing. Sadly it could be aired today and not be a whole lot different.

This conversation is as relevant today as well as over 50 years ago

This is important for humanity, we should have more discussions like these with each other. We need NOT to be told what we can or can't talk about with each other as human beings.

I'm enjoying everybody gathered around with a good smoke talking in a way you would never see on tv today, an open an honest discussion about race between whites and blacks.

Wow, something like this could never never never happen today. Can you imagine getting all of these entertainment and literary giants together in one place?

@rhondamagee9220

Жыл бұрын

And giving them thirty minutes without interruption! The media today has been corrupted, and this is a big part of the problem.

This was far too short. Thank you for this post! #heavyweights #2017

Mr. Belefonte deserves the graditude and respect of his fellow blacks and from those of us who defend the worth, dignity and god given rights of all human beings. Brando expresses a fundamental truth when he speaks of fear and hatred in the human heart. The Old Testament prophet Jeremiah says it this way, The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Who can understand it.

James Baldwin at the end of this conversation debate kicks ass

props for them for talking publicly about these issues even though it affected their careers they got a lot of hate and death threats over this!! lost a lot of money and many people stopped supporting them and boycotted their movies it’s ridiculous

Still relevant and resonant. Worth viewing.

They ran out of time right when Baldwin was saying the deepest thing any of them had said.

marlon brando love forever

aunt it funny how stupid 15 second vine videos can 2 million views in 10 min but the real shit we need to pay attention too never comes close. it's funny how we finally got all this free educating about our selfs on our phones but instead of getting smart people losing sleep and lives over Facebook

@djgforce11

8 жыл бұрын

U mean technology isnt advancing our culture??......awwwwww maaaaaaaaan.

@re-in222

7 жыл бұрын

what a stupid example

@djgforce11

7 жыл бұрын

Paris Hilton Sez the gal who named herself after an ubertwat.

This is wonderful to listen to

God Bless you!! this is amazing!!!

THIS WAS TRUELY AMAZING!

High level content. Good stuff

Beautiful people working for justice and equality for all

nooo it was getting really good! They were really starting to talking about crucial topics and issues.

Incredible some of the true titans that are all gone now Bellafonte and Poitier both died fairly recently Charlton Heston ,Baldwin …we are so lucky to still have all this amazing and important footage available 60 years later ,what an insight into the past, and in reality, it wasn’t that long ago.

I am impressed at how articulate each of these men are. it seems people presently in general do not express themselves as well even among the educated. Has the English language been diminished? Has ordinary education been corrupted, brought to the lowest common denominator?

James Baldwin is the most intelligent person on this panel.

Scandalously short discussion,could have listened to these fascinating people for hours.

Only one man whose still alive here, Belafonte. His comments and references were the only POV that are still relative today. Maybe a little Baldwin too. Just goes to show where most people's mindsets were at.

Sidney Poitier (February 20, 1927) Harry Belafonte (March 1, 1927) ... both still alive today September 1, 2018 at 92. To: Sirs... With Love!!

@mikemccool7575

2 жыл бұрын

Rest In Peace 1/7/2021

James Baldwin is always inspiring ~

@Outlawgurl24

5 ай бұрын

He’s very smart I love him and Toni Morrison 🤎

This was the glory days of TV

Gosh I wish this was longer! So many beautiful thoughts that we won't have gotten the chance to hear

Joe Mangovich says it correctly, human right! You cannot demand something that doesn't exist. What in the world is a civil right? Human rights are afforded to those who are considered humans. Something concrete that can be brought up in court, like Malcolm X was getting to before he was cut down.

@19:50 propably the most important interruption of the discourse and what we can now understand in full it's relevance and validity in full.

Man what incredible men we need more men like this

Marlon reminds me of Muhammad Ali in that both excelled in respective fields & both became global icons for boots-on-the-ground, unsexy activism. I wish Jane Goodall could dunk & Carl Sagan had a black belt, they’d trend so hard forever.

how does one "appeal to the conscience" of those who have no conscience?

@KalanyMightBeADawg123

7 жыл бұрын

Did you know that James Baldwin and Marlon Brando use to live together for 4 years. I found this out last week; while writing my paper on literary influences. I chose James Baldwin and his work A Talk To Teachers.

@gaillongo1455

7 жыл бұрын

what is your source?

@RingJando

7 жыл бұрын

Baldwin befriended actor Marlon Brando in 1944 and the two were roommates for a time.[Field-Douglas 2009]. They remained friends for more than twenty years.

@pugsandcoffeeplease

6 жыл бұрын

They were lovers, too.

@RBGUERILLA

6 жыл бұрын

They can't it was a theory.

funny, the people seemed so much more civilised than in the way the interact today.

I bet John Wayne would have called Marlon Brando a traitor - Well he almost did at the Academy Awards in 1973.

@bhakti235

4 жыл бұрын

...when brando was speaking about native american rights

@Outlawgurl24

5 ай бұрын

John Wayne is a racist who cares what he would have said

Sidney Poitier seems the most troubled and discouraged on the panel.

Strange that Heston became head of the NRA and would hold NRA conferences where mass shootings took place ..... James was an incredible activist

Brilliant!

Excellent

So sad that we are still talking about this but it shows we still have a lot to do. Glad to see that Belafonte and Mankeiwitz were not mincing words and were pushing the fact that it is our (whites) problem/issue. SIGH.

@razorbackfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Carol Levison Mankiewicz was way ahead of his time. He wanted Dorothy Dandridge as the lead in Cleopatra.

POWERFUL

this is GOLD - MY IDOLS ON ONE TABLE - BEST THING ON KZread

Excellent piece of history.Wonderful panel. I only wish I had knowledge of this video when I was teaching. I only wish schools all over North America would use this video as a tool to introduce ‘ why the word Nigger.’

A truly great and honorable man intelligent and a man with true empathy and social concious

brilliant ...

These men put their carreers on the line to do what was right Belafonte touched my heart Brando thoughtful soulfol to the point Heston dignified and caring touches my heart

Profound all these men are heroes and great men of integrity

amazing television

Awesome!

Wow. It is true what they say that history repeats itself. I can envision a roundtable like this and the same words being used today.

@nyishahinkle1706

6 жыл бұрын

OakhillSailor Who should be at the table now ? 2018..who's worthy?

A dignified articulate discussion. This level of debate is sadly lacking today. How disappointing that so much of what is discussed here is still relevant today more than 50 years later.

@BernieHollandMusic

Жыл бұрын

This level of debate is not lacking today - however, seeking it out requires effort

@knockshinnoch1950

Жыл бұрын

@@BernieHollandMusic and THAT is the point! These debates used to be featured on the major TV networks, now they are buried away on obscure cable/satelitte stations and on the internet. Fewer people are aware of their existence or access them. Back in the day these high profile debates did have an impact on an important section of the viewership of the big channels, providing water cooler discussion points.

Rest in peace Harry Belafonte

RIP SIDNEY

Only 60 years ago

Brando at 26:00 "The Negroes now are giving us a lesson"...in the ebb and flow of history. Surprised Brando would see this issue in terms of us and them, them making us better. Baldwin, a few years later, would have gone ballistic on such a narrow, white driven perspective.

Interesting roundtable discussion.

Great discussion, but I wish they could've had double the time because they only touched the surface. On another note, it's very troubling that our children have to learn true history from sources other than their schools. We need total education reform which includes curriculums that enable discussion and understanding of where we came from and why so that we can become a UNITED nation.

Wow !

I remember this . I was only 9 years old but it made me fully aware how cruel and vile this country is.And in 2017 how it's still relevant it is today.

@bluthepitbull6063

2 жыл бұрын

It's 2022 and it's gotten worse

Why haven't more people viewed this I urge ALL people to see this ....Please not for me but for US ..... A

It’s been forgotten but Heston was a lifetime member of the naacp and the urban league. Secondly Eddie Smith who was the cofounder of the Beverly Hills Hollywood naacp and the Image Awards , as well as the Hollywood Black Stuntmen’s Association, was at the March. He met James Garner whose company Cherokee productions was the first to sign with the BSA. Until then it was still acceptable to put white men in blackface to do stunts. Also, Mr Smith told me himself that Heston allowed the BSA to meet at his home on Saturdays.

james baldwin wicked smart xo

Classic this generation will never witness anything like this Black or White

Wow!!! I never knew that 18 black men in prison had broken their legs with sledgehammers to bring attention to black conditions in America.

This was a great sit down, conversation amongst outstanding gentlement and revelation of some white persons willing to not only privately speak out for what's right and decent but publicly as well.

OMG my heros of all times, MR. Brando and Mr. HESTON, THE WORLD GOT AN EXPLOTION

Agosto 1963. The March For Jobs & Freedom. Alla marcia, Martin Luther King Jr. ha pronunciato il suo storico discorso "I Have a Dream". Marlon Brando, James Baldwin, Charlton Heston, Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, discutono del potenziale del movimento. Sono tutti uomini, ma una formazione straordinaria, articolata e ponderata: gli Stati Uniti sull'orlo di qualcosa di eccezionale attraverso il movimento per i diritti civili e i programmi emergenti radicali, di base, della comunità delle Pantere Nere. Un passo troppo avanti per i politici corrotti - un impero che è ancora trafitto dalla guerra mondiale e dai suoi stessi cittadini.

When i was young in1971 we lived in Denton Texas my mother was completing her degree in english literature i was brought in to a family by my friend Mel his mother Nurse Father Doctor they treated me as a son both great humans both African American both legendary we are the human race no distinguishing on this subject Heston Baldwin Poitier Belafonte all great and look loving visionary men it is the human race that matters not racism that I s not right that is not what my country stands for read some of James Baldwin's essays in Esquire magazine and other works concerning this profound

Great Men, James Balwin, Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, We always liked Marlon Brando, Chelton Heston, and Mancanwitz!!!😀😀😀

lmao @ Joe Mankiewicz releasing Cleopatra that very year

@keiranbradley3222

8 жыл бұрын

+charlie mattis Wasn't Cleopatra a Ptolemy ?, Peace.

@lexcouturerockette

7 жыл бұрын

That particular Cleopatra was. She would still have been a bit darker in appearance though. Greek people in that area in general are much closer to an olive bronze shade than a porcelain pink...but I digress.