Unless the settlement money comes out of the officers' pocket, the taxpayers will be bailing out their incompetence.

@markfaas4052

8 ай бұрын

They all have a pension fund vested or not. A jury has the power to attach those pension funds, present or future to a settlement. Then and only then utilize the municipality’s bond to satisfy the settlement.

@tomcampbell6384

8 ай бұрын

I live in Elkhart County, IN...I recently heard that the city of Elkhart is on the hook for about $8m for the stupid stuff their officers have done....all out of the taxpayers pockets....

@markfaas4052

8 ай бұрын

@@tomcampbell6384 The “taxpayers” pay the premiums on the community’s bond. That insures the community against these sort of lawsuits. The fewer lawsuits against the community. The lower the premiums. Allowing a margin of a learning curve before the community is bankrupted from litigation. The responsibility in keeping that bond premium cost down is incumbent upon the community leaders to provide proper training, protocols and discipline of it’s public servants. Any settlement over wrongful behavior, unlawful actions or endangering the public is a failure of the community’s leadership to manage it’s employees.

@willgo5620

7 ай бұрын

funny. that is still taxpayer money.

@markfaas4052

7 ай бұрын

@@willgo5620 Giving back, a “public service”..

If this money came from the pockets of the cops who made this bogus arrest, cops might actually do their due-diligence BEFORE hauling someone off to jail.

@ThereIsNoOtherHandleLikeMine

10 ай бұрын

1. Cities have money. Cops don't. 2. Liability insurance exists for a reason.

@lynncarden

10 ай бұрын

Law enforcement really needs to weed out people who have I have a badge and I'm God ...attuide

@erikanders3343

9 ай бұрын

If the citizens get tired of all the extra taxes they have to pay, them maybe they will vote for police accountability. This cost is what you voted for.

@frotobaggins7169

8 ай бұрын

He should also be responsible for the legal fees of the defendant which are substantial. Lets not forget the administration of the police department who makes this all possible by allowing the charges, furthering the charges and retaining the bad officers who commit these crimes.

@erikanders3343

8 ай бұрын

@@frotobaggins7169 take it a step further, its the tax payers who enable this by not demanding civilian review boards, controls on liability and changes to policy. This is why I do not feel bad that they have to pay more taxes to cover the abuses of their employees, hurting their pocketbook is the only way to get them interested in doing the right thing.

I was falsely arrested / imprisoned as an act of retaliation after telling a deputy his actions were criminal !!!

@88997799

Жыл бұрын

Get a lawyer?

@freemanfornow264

8 ай бұрын

I'm dealing with that now myself......6 false warrants on myself and my wife.... We've spent everything we had saved and by the grace of God our house is paid for or we would be homeless..... they wanted to take us away from our kids by arresting us together, but we did not let them get that satisfaction..... Now they can't give me any info because they say there's "nothing in the system"...... doesn't change what I'm GOING to be compensated for..... they WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, BOTH CRIMINALLY, CIVILLY, AND IF NEED BE...... eternally

Go to court, he would have gotten millions, maybe before but jurys are done with bad cops,make citys pay for hiring idiots.

@markmalasics3413

12 күн бұрын

Right, of course. Every cop is bad and an idiot. But I'm sure you won't fall back on THAT logic when it comes to bigotry against other groups, like do you believe all blacks are criminals? Do you believe all Latinos carry knives? Do you believe all Irish are drunkards? Do you believe that all Muslims fly jet aircraft in occupied buildings? Hmm, didn't think so, cop-hater.

The police department is "looking into it," which means that it isn't looking into it, and there will never be a response.

@robertsteinbach7325

Жыл бұрын

It means that the Police still think he is guilty. Unbelievable.

@thehellyousay

9 ай бұрын

@@robertsteinbach7325 unwilling to admit error.

@SW-mc2zx

22 күн бұрын

Doesn't matter he didn't match the description. They have to arrest someone to meet our quotas. "Looking" into it. We piled the investigation somewhere and might get to it sometime.

@smokingjoe9864

12 күн бұрын

Like an adult telling a child, "we will think about it".

Any unlawful arrest should cost a city a minimum of %5 million and the department should lose five years budget. They should be required to sell assets to make payroll.

@neilkurzman4907

Жыл бұрын

So what you’re saying is if the police department makes a mistake the citizens of that jurisdiction don’t get police protection for five years. Good luck getting that law passed. Sell assets? Think about that they sell the assets for less than what it cost to buy them. Then the citizens have to buy new. Congratulations you found a way to make the taxpayers pay even more money for the mistake.

@ThomasNux

4 ай бұрын

I would suggest that both civil and criminal personal accountability for officers that violate the law is a better solution. When the settlement is provided by the government, it's actually the taxpayer that pays for it, and provides no personal disincentive for individual officers to violate rights. Ending qualified immunity and requiring that police officers provide indemnity insurance at their own expense would make rogue officers uninsurable, and therefore unemployable. It would also protect taxpayers from having to pay for their misdeeds.

Instead of Coffee + Donuts - Police, Prosecutors, and Judges need to be held accountable for Malicious Ineptitude.

@scottguthrie8074

Жыл бұрын

I'm convinced they have carnal knowledge of each other on top of all of this other bullshit!

@Look_What_I_Did

Жыл бұрын

Only one party can affect an arrest. You wouldn't understand that though.

Anytime a lawsuit is won..if it's over $25,000 the city employee should be fired or have to pay it themselves. One way to get rid of those who cost the citizens

I was falsely arrested too, in florida, spent 36 hours in lockup, bailed out and fought for 3 years to the point of going to trial where upon the state attorney of florida dropped their charges, they tried to get me to plea to a lower charge so I could not sue, I called their bluff and asked for a jury trial, they Immediately dropped the charge "nolle prosequi" meaning to evidence to prosecute, I am now suing here in florida.

@Chapps1941

Жыл бұрын

I hope you win. I'm fighting a false accusation that has seen me become homeless, little money, no job, no woman and l drive a shitter.

@kailexx1962

Жыл бұрын

Gape them. Gape them hard.

@PlayingWithFireOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Include the leos certification as part of the settlement , End QI!

@knerduno5942

Жыл бұрын

Hope you suing for billions

@ianbattles7290

Жыл бұрын

That prosecutor is TRYING to get sued if they pursued charges *without having ANY evidence to support them.*

As a former federal case juror. It is necessary to attach a good portion of the officer’s retirement to these settlements. When offending officers are made financially responsible for their actions. Their behavior will change..

@frankconley6321

Жыл бұрын

I like that idea.

@neilkurzman4907

Жыл бұрын

You were on a jury big deal. Lots of people have. Don’t know why you decided to mention it. So what you’re saying is you also want to risk your retirement where if you screw up you lose your retirement money I don’t care if it’s a 401(k), or Social Security fair is fair, you screw up at work you spend your retirement years as a Walmart greeter or whatever you have to do to get by. The penalty for doing a bad job is getting fired. The officer is not even fired, but your plan is to make no one want the job. And anyone dumb enough to take it would have to retire immediately 20 years to avoid the risk put some thought into it federal Juror.

@markfaas4052

Жыл бұрын

@@neilkurzman4907 I was on a jury that assigned a financial responsibility to 2 Sheriffs who financially and openly used their position to punitively punish Deputies and jail staff for their service to the public. In a just and equitable manner without burdening the taxpayers of the community. Yeah, it was a big deal. Firstly, a clear and direct message to those who feel they are above the law. Secondly, displayed to the citizens. Served by two elected, career public servants, That they truly can be held personally and financially responsible for their actions. Thirdly, exposed their actions by a jury of their peers to the electorate of corruption within the ranks of a Sheriff’s department. Lastly, handed down a fair and just settlement that only impacted the county’s bonding insurance and those responsible to be divided between 6 plaintiffs. 750k from bond and a reasonable pension garnishment from two career sheriffs. Not so excessive to motivate an appeal. But enough for a just compensation and recognition of a balanced judicial system. Certainly a “big deal” to the plaintiffs, the defendants and the local citizenship..

@todrickarrington2082

Жыл бұрын

Check my lawsuit out vs Erie police department

@fransmith8992

Жыл бұрын

@@neilkurzman4907 falsely arresting someone is a whole lot worse than doing a bad job, gomer. installing a window that can't be opened is a bad job. falsely arresting someone is ruining a human life. how did you get so ignorant?

Another citizen protected and served

@aklemmer8936

Жыл бұрын

When will community governments demand an end to these Rogue cops who cost millions in tax dollars

@ianbattles7290

Жыл бұрын

Yet again the taxpayers are being collectively punished for the incompetence of a few individuals.

Sad to say, being apprehended at gunpoint when you don't even remotely resemble a description is not at all uncommon. It happened to me too.

Should have been 1.5 million every 24 hrs locked up. Attorneys are for the best deal for the courts. Anyone that's ever been arrested should look at the case law on this.

There isn't any incentive for the police to not just grab someone that doesn't fit the description and charge them with a felony. The cop has faced zero consequences for charging the wrong person. The DA will not face any consequences for filing those charges. Until we hold police and DA's accountable no one is safe from false charges. Until it happens to you or your loved ones you don't know how easy it actually is.

Even if he doesn’t like cops! Innocent is innocent

I would have given him 1M+, his lawyers failed him.

I'm sorry to say but that was hush up money no one was held accountable for the crime that the city did to this man

375K is too cheap. The amount will not change bad and incompetent or out right illegal behaviors.

It shouldn't take years to get public officials into court.

The Columbus Division of Police is "looking into it". That's reassuring!

Any officers involved should be arrested at gunpoint, subject to the same intensive search and spend 7 days in jail for their gross incompetence. The process is the punishment. This should not just apply to civilians.

We investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing.

These cops that cost the taxpayers like this should automatically have their license revoked. Their gang union keeps them protcted from facing any consequences and keeps them employed.

@madmaximilian5783

Жыл бұрын

@neo 71665• the community should refuse to pay taxes for corrupt cops that cost them budget money that should be helping them with development and improvements programs.

@jim.h

14 күн бұрын

Don't you just love unions!! #unionstrong

Force them to carry insurance and every time they mess up , their insurance payments go up until they become uninsurable!

If I were Mayor of that city and no action was done by the Police chief about the false arrest, I would be looking for another police chief. I would make sure something worthwhile would happen to stop this from happening again.

It's just one stuff up after another.. I've been threw it to with the police, with the only compensation I got was getting out alive..

restraining orders against the cops involved to prevent further retribution.. cancel a career too

As usual, we use the ‘mirror’ to deflect and are looking into it.

Glad the bad police get brought to the public knowledge 😊 this is just immoral to accuse the not guilty people 🤔 js mo

@mrg7304

Жыл бұрын

Happens much more often than is public

@madmaximilian5783

Жыл бұрын

@@mrg7304 these guilty cops faces should be plastered on billboards and social media throughout the communities as dangerous and a threat to society.

@conlawmeateater8792

Жыл бұрын

@@madmaximilian5783 they should but they won't for fear of further damaging their ability to police the public safely. They're a gang. They need to protect their "honor". I call it ego and pride.

The settlement was about a third of the payment if it went to trial!

@foxbodyblues6709

Жыл бұрын

Hell ya. When regular people are given the chance to show cops what we think of their misconduct the result is usually 7 or 8 figure judgements.

@foxbodyblues6709

Жыл бұрын

Nah - juries are really into justice now when it comes to police misconduct. Juries are likely to award 5 - 10 million bucks

I hope pulling their certification was part of the deal

@jim.h

14 күн бұрын

That will happen the same day that police unions are dissolved! #unionstrong

Imagine costing your employer $375k through negligence and still managing to keep your job with no repercussions.

@jim.h

14 күн бұрын

I'm sure he was "re-trained." You know, made to watch a ten minute video.

The officer.should at a minimum have to.have a some timeoff reflective of.the poor work he did.

So why does this guy get $375,000 for 7 days in jail while another person only got $24,000 for 14 days in jail?

@jim.h

14 күн бұрын

Depends on how obvious it was that the cops screwed up. This city was scared that a jury could make them pay 10X the amount they settled for!

@thomasjensen6243

13 күн бұрын

@jim.h oh, ok. So according to your logic, I could get 10 Million dollars for 30 minutes behind bars as long as it's a glaringly obvious miscarriage of justice.

@jim.h

13 күн бұрын

@@thomasjensen6243 Don't be ridiculous. It all depends on the circumstances, and how much the jury wanted to punish the people who wronged you.

My question is why are these city's getting off with low settlements like this?

@rosssmith9870

Жыл бұрын

Due to rule 68. If you reject the settlement offer and then are awarded less than the offer then you have to pay their legal costs, which will be enormous. You can win a case and end up owing more than you get due to rule 68. That's why a clients attorney often advises them to accept the offer.

Law Enforcement doesn't care. Won't cost them a dime. Taxpayers foot the bill.

I don't see the city isn't holding that officer accountable for shoty police work and or make him pay for the settlement because that was his personal decision.

Remember when it used to be a crime to knowingly lie on official documents? And not one penny will come out of the cop's pocket....SMDH

Another example of incompetent cops, unjustly filing charges against an innocent citizen, then just walking away with no consequences. This has to stop.

@warwickscram1656

4 ай бұрын

At a minimum they should be charged with felony kidnapping and aggravated assault and battery.

Looking into it? We're all on the edge of our seats... waiting!

Why does the taxpayer get punished for it? Take it out of the police pension. Not like anyone else gets pensions anymore anyway.

If cops did their jobs We wouldn't have lawsuits.

why should taxpayers have to pay for this?

One would hope lessons have been learned and this type of nonsense would end. But guess what, this payout won't make the slightest bit of difference to law enforcement as it's not them that pay its tax payers.

My God.. wrongful arrest, this is dangerous.. live may lost

Why would you settle for so little???

When they give the updated response -We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing

City councilman and mayors need to quit being buddies with the city manager and police chiefs. If they would demand accountability it would reduce the frequency of these ridiculous events.

That's what I need to pursue. Wrongfully arrested on a stray dog call ! Came home after short trip to supermarket. Police entered the house on a " welfare call " thru a back door. When I challenged them I was arrested. False arrest report...

I bet someone pointed a finger at him...and that was enough reason.😡

I have to foot the bill for this. The police pension should have to pay.

They going to reverse his whole arrest, fingerprints and all? That should be part of the deal.

Make the police and their union pay for this crime. Then, put the cops in jail where they belong.

I wish a lawyer would strive for the justice I deserve. Concord is a very Dirty force.

The departments always "investigate" or "look into" misconduct but never hold officers accountable. How about we hold the chief personally responsible for paying the settlement?

@phylliswhite4154

Жыл бұрын

And the mayor...

these settlements should be 10 times larger than they are. then they would get it. in this case a lot of corruption was going on by the police. some officers should be fired and charged.

And again , at the end of this crime,,,there is no accountability or repercussions for the officers involved and yet reinforced the idea or the picture of the police of how corrupt, out of control and illegal acts against the public still exist.

Every dime should come from police retirement funds!

Think about services denied in the community because the money has to be channeled to pay off a lawsuit. The entire city suffers from these large payouts.

Good reporting keep up the good work

What sanctions where put on the cop who did this to an innocent man , what punishment does he face ?

The people payed the lawsuit. The cops won

Update, we’ve looked into this matter and now consider it closed.

Must be nice to have other people pay for your mistakes

Sounds like there's other lawsuits that need filed against other agencies.

It's interesting that the amount awarded is easily divided by 3. Lawyers usually get one third of any settlement. They made it easy for the lawyer to figure out his fee. Just an observation.

I was wrongfully detailed for 210 days I didn't have enough time to call the police I defended myself with an appropriate amount of force

The cops involved in this should all be fire and prosecuted and jailed.

Should have held out for more.

Bad, very little money.

These cops are acting at a level they are capable of and according to the training and environment they work in. This is who they are and what they do. You can't change them, you have to replace them with people better qualified, smarter, and who are trained much differently. Once the dough is messed up you can't cook good biscuits. You throw it out and do it right.

The public is paying the bill for bad policing. Why would the police care? It's not their money. End qualified immunity

@medbob1

13 күн бұрын

Qualified Immunity is OK provided it is QUALIFIED. That is the breakdown. The police who are QUALIFIED should have met ALL the conditions of Qualification. If all the rules were followed, and all the I's dotted and T's crossed, then they should be qualified. They need that because Criminals will take any opening they can get. In this case they were DISQUALIFIED by their incompetence.

That's what we see too often. Poor public skills, lazy police work. Jumping in with both feet without gathering the facts. The piss poor way they treat the public. Police need Publix support and trust to be effective. How many cops do you see speeding down streets while on routine patrol with a cell phone stuck to their head and windows up. In 20 yrs the drivers window in my car stayed down. We need to hear things like a dog barking, glass breaking, a woman screaming, even a gun shot. I was in the Wash DC area where we had snow/sleet, thunderstorms. My window was down. Your head has to be on the job. Speak to people the you would want your wife or mother spoken to. In the 80's we called it Community Policing.

Ohio has some really bad cops.

Fire officers and take their pensions. Tax payers are paying for their screw ups

Bad policing? How shocking.

That's nowhere near enough to come to say

Hawkins should have received Millions

The money should come from the police retirement/pension funds.

I was born in Columbus, Ohio, over 60 years ago. In the past I was proud to say where I was from; NO LONGER.

Hopefully that also fired both officers and should make sure that they never become officers again!

@jim.h

14 күн бұрын

They'll allow them to resign, so that their former Internal Affairs department has no one to investigate.

We are looking into it means hey shut up.

What a miscarriage of justice! Fire that cop!

They're always "looking into it".

The taxpayers will be bailing out their incompetence. The cost should come from their retirement funds.

The arresting officer got a paid vacation with time off and got back to work after that. OH well the city has to pay for my screwups. Instead of losing his law enforcement certification that is what is needed.

Civil servants are the enemy.

The settlement is in the best interest of the CITY!the CITY'S not interested in the best interest of the CITIZENS!not is "law enforcement"or so it's called.

These cops 👮‍♀️ Misconduct Needs to Stop 🛑 Because it’s putting people in danger for doing nothing wrong 😑

Many employers treat and view an arrest as the same as a conviction. When a background check comes up with aggravated robbery arrest- that employer will trash the application even though it’s a false arrest wherein the charges were dropped. That 375k settlement will help.

Love it....keep paying up Taxpayers. Just keep paying and paying

Why should the public pay for incompetence

Another prime example of a citizens who is considered GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

375,000.00 is chicken feed. 37 million might start opening some eyes and getting things fixed.

take the money out of the cop's payroll

Whoever wrote this news segment needs to take a course in proper journalism. It was horrifically done.

FTP

Sad news: they're "all bad police"!

Im from Ohio and can't say anything good about the place crooked cops always a cover up can't stand the place good to be from and out of their

Police don't care the money doesn't come out of their pockets. Once again the tax payers end up footing the bill.