Hope we get this in Australia - I am sure it will be a 6 speed auto. Current car is a C4 Cactus 1.2l Puretech petrol with 6 speed auto - performs really well. It has been a great car. The new C3 attracts me with its styling and Progressive Hydraulic Cushion suspension.

Here in Spain the base petrol version is available for less than 15k euros. Seems like a bit of a bargain.

@filipbabovic8474

Ай бұрын

Honestly half of the car market should cost that much with base models 💀

When Tavares a few years ago advocated for cheap mobility for families, this is what we get now! He's following on his promise. Great job.

With the petrol engine and a much lower price, this makes sense. It works!

Wow. A new manual. Becoming rarer than a hypercar.

It's nice that the split fold rear seats are set up for right hand drive so you can load long/wide things through to the front and have one rear passenger. Indian origins the reason for that perhaps but great for the UK and Ireland.

Hoping to see you review the jeep avenger hybrid and/or petrol as a comparison to this and the Duster

Its a nice looking car for sure.Well done Mark

Whilst I’m a massive EV fan and might well get the e-C3 next, I can see why this petrol version makes a lot of sense for a lot of people, especially if you’re buying one rather than leasing. The price difference to the EV version is massive and unless you’re doing a lot of miles, there’s no way you’re going to make that kind of difference back over 3 or 4years. I do 15k ish miles a year and lease, so EV for me as the ‘fuel’ savings are huge (it works out cheaper/the same as the petrol over 3 year), but for most the petrol is the one.

Thanks for the good informative review. I guess around €24.000k for the turbo Max version. That will be around €3.000 cheaper than the EV version (with subsidies (Netherlands).

Great little car. This petrol version would be a great alternative choice for anyone who, for whatever reason, doesn’t want the EV version. The fact that it has a manual gearbox is great. The Satnav guy is a bit scary!

@Greg579

27 күн бұрын

Alternative? Wtf are you on about. The electric version is a lot more expensive *alternative* to the petrol version.

@robertimrie3710

11 күн бұрын

​@@Greg579Google this engine and issues. Manuals were great 20 years ago, not today. Charge at home and the fuel savings are significant. Liking this car with petrol is 2014 thinking.

@user-tq1qd3iu2t

9 күн бұрын

You mean anyone with a brain who doesnt want the EV piece of garbage?

I like it. Its like a mix of volvo xc40, vw t cross and jeep avenger

What a great car

Reminds me a bit of the VW T Cross. Interesting what you say about the 6th gear. I would drop the "be happy" tags and the colour inserts. Don't under stand why electric is fitted with arm rest and ICE is not when the ICE car will probably be doing more longer journeys. Having reviewed electric and ICE versions Nobby, which would you choose at this moment in time for RoI driving?

@NobbyOnCars

Ай бұрын

They’ll both work for Ireland, the EV will be cheaper to run but the petrol drives a bit better.

@gib321

Ай бұрын

@@NobbyOnCars Thanks. Great reviews on both cars.

Sadly we only get the electric version in my country. Would've loved a small, affordable petrol car on the market.

Man this is a nice car

So, it will still have issues with the 1.2 wet belt?

@iCarlosPro

Ай бұрын

Nope. That has the new version, with chain.

The 1.2 puretech worries me in reliability terms, it hasn't got a great record. However i think Citroen are going to sell a lot of these

@Sjaak819

15 күн бұрын

This car has the new 1.2 engine, with timing chain. So no longer a wet timing belt. I assume it should me more reliable.

That puretech wet belt engine is still dragging the stellantis brand down , a lot of used dealers avoid the motor and thats never good for residuals. They might modify it one day but for now it blights the brands.

@HologramJones

Ай бұрын

No it's not, from 2022 it uses a timing chain, also the only engine that was affected was the 1.2. The issue also affected other brands using the Dayco wet belt (Ford, VW and many others)

@anthonybrown4874

Ай бұрын

Best they publicise it then though do they want to admit they offloaded a liability engine on consumers?

@HologramJones

Ай бұрын

@@anthonybrown4874 there has been a recall around issued by Dayco and then by Stellantis that if you experience symptoms to go in and change the belt. However, you must have had your services done by Citroen. Reason being that people who have done their services and on time,use the exact same grade of oil which is very important according to Dayco have managed to stave off the issue, however it is still recommended to change to belt. I don't think at first that Stellantis were aware of the issue since they don't manufacture the belt. As for the new timing chain there is a press release somewhere.

@anthonybrown4874

Ай бұрын

@HologramJones For all the owners who are buying used stellantis puretech motors it's impossible to be certain that the correct oil is always used plus in service the contamination by petrol and combustion products may well be outside the parameters first anticipated hence the requirement to halve the belt change as in service experience shows it breaks up clogs up sensitive engine parts and is generally to be avoided either through regular monitoring or really early belt changes at some cost. I have observed the belt st 67k on a 5 year old 308 it was in very poor condition and replaced with genuine peugeot parts they may have improved the materials but the principle is unsound using wet belts hence as you inform the move to timing chain. Best to just avoid.

@Filipe-dj3sb

Ай бұрын

@@HologramJonesdidnt affect the 1.0 tsi

Lots of familiar bits from the Jeep Renegade?

did they fix this 1.2 puretech engine?

@etbadaboum

25 күн бұрын

Probably, belt has been replaced with a chain

Hi again can you tell me is there any news the Irish government giving a grant to by a older ev car thanks

@NobbyOnCars

28 күн бұрын

No and unlikely to happen I’m afraid. The exchequer can’t keep funding EV purchases forever and used prices are naturally cheaper than new etc

Is it one of the wet belt engines i wonder? or have they changed it now!

@NobbyOnCars

14 күн бұрын

Same but they say its more durable now

Have they fixed the wet belt failure issue?

@NobbyOnCars

Ай бұрын

So they say…

@JohnnyMotel99

Ай бұрын

@@NobbyOnCars Is this C3 a replacenent for the old C3 Picasso? Or has Citroen abandoned that format?

@anthonybrown4874

Ай бұрын

​@@NobbyOnCarsby halving the interval I don't think the trade has a lot of confidence in it £500 job too and if it is disintegrating the sump will need to come off to clean the oil strainer & then hope no oil ways are blocked.

@iCarlosPro

Ай бұрын

They use a chain now. Problem solved.

@gregmartyn1976

7 күн бұрын

@johnnymotel99 they replaced the c3 picasso with the c3 aircross and a new version is out soon

I'm concerned about the lack of a tachometer....it's as easy to drive as a manual without it ????? i am looking forward for the new c3 aircross but i am sceptical that tachometer is not available

@NobbyOnCars

Ай бұрын

Can’t say I missed one. You either drive or you can’t ☺️😉

@Mr.Tracer

Ай бұрын

@@NobbyOnCars thank you for your answer....i should wait and test drive one when it will be available

Great little car but I understand that the pure tech engines like the Ford eco boost are big trouble particularly with the wet belt and heavy oil consumption. I gather they are called purecrap in the trade. All Stellantis group uses this 1.2, shame as it’s an economical engine and good on emissions. But I do love Citroen they have character. I had a couple of Peugeot 308 and only issues were electrical not engines .

@Sjaak819

15 күн бұрын

This new C3 has a timing chain.

@sevesellors2831

14 күн бұрын

@@Sjaak819 that’s great news.

How about the ... belt ?! Still immersed and prone to oil impregnation ?!

@NobbyOnCars

Ай бұрын

They say they’ve sorted it… time will tell!

@victormarian7889

Ай бұрын

@@NobbyOnCars They switched to chain for the hybrid !

@londo0

Ай бұрын

​@@NobbyOnCars some people are saying it's a chain now. You didn't ask Citroen when you got the car? It's a major issue which will keep people from buying it.

@stefanobalistreri8349

Ай бұрын

​​​@@londo0Not at all!!!! This engine is derivated by the previous one but it is very different. Stellantis has put a time chain on it and there are many other differences.

Does it have a timing belt in oil?

@manuelrusu7052

Ай бұрын

not anymore.

That off white from looks impractical

Traditionally Citroen have high depreciation so leasing will be higher and that wet belt is a reason not to buy outright. Shame as it ticks a lot of boxes but there are better B segments out there.

@laurradu868

Ай бұрын

It doesn't have wet belt anymore, this one is with chain.

@xmaniac99

28 күн бұрын

Better B segments for 14k euro?

@user-tq1qd3iu2t

9 күн бұрын

Like what?

I heard these 1.2 engines from the stelatis group have over heating and high oil consumption.

@laurradu868

Ай бұрын

The old one! This is new, with timing chain. It should be better

Nice, not exciting in any way. Although we don't know the price yet, I would choose the Clio or MG3 hybrid over it every time if they were priced the same.

@undercover0065

Ай бұрын

I'd also choose an A-Class over it if it was the same price...

@user-tq1qd3iu2t

9 күн бұрын

but they are hybrid............stay away from anything with batteries.........its not a smart phone or a toy.

Wish the max trim was available with the petrol and not just the electric. In ethical consumer magazine the Stellantis brands such as Citroen came top. Volvo as the brand to boycott, highly commended Suzuki and Mazda.

Nice to has a petrol version

1.2 gas engine = wet belt. 1.2 mild hybrid = wet chain.

I am currently looking atRenault Clio,Dacia Stepway, Hyundai I20 and the Suzuki Swift all around the same price. However I am shocked to hear the MPG on the C3 7/100kms is far too high for a car of this size and on that basis I would not choose one.

@keithhooper6123

26 күн бұрын

Swift for reliabilty

like it specially in that little petrol .we all don't need suvs

This engine is awful though and only time will tell if the chain won't break apart like in the 1.6 puretech and 1.5 HDi. A shame, really, because the old 1.4 HDi was known to be quite tough. I'll probably buy a Dacia Sandero, even though I've always loved Citroën.

And the same problem that these engines cause?

It doesn’t come with a center arm rest?? Not even as an option??

@NobbyOnCars

Ай бұрын

It does. EV version I drove had an armrest.

@Lisbonese

Ай бұрын

@@NobbyOnCars yes I saw, but not on the petrol which is a shame…..

Does this car have a tachometer?

@yzhou-sc6gs

17 күн бұрын

No, only a text indicator to remind you to ⬆️⬇️.

This will sell

Hallelujah!!! A manual transmission!

Nice car, but I couldn't buy this car simply because of the misaligned rear wiper, my OCD in me would need to try align the rear wiper every time I walk past it

@NobbyOnCars

Ай бұрын

🤣

@ISuperTed

28 күн бұрын

Next version it will be removed, if enough people complain about the mis-alignment 😂😂

Is it a 1.2 pure tech engine ?....

@BrateTebra123

Ай бұрын

Yes

@laurradu868

Ай бұрын

But revised, with chain, not wet belt.

@Elaba_

Ай бұрын

I only trust chains from Toyota or double chains with other car manufacturers. ​@@laurradu868

@BrateTebra123

Ай бұрын

@@laurradu868 not revised, it is with belt

@laurradu868

Ай бұрын

@@BrateTebra123 they say is chain, Miller cycle, variable geometry turbo, direct injection 350 bar, cylinder block for chain compatibility, low friction silent chain drive, low friction valve train, hybrid compatibility.

I just hope they made significant changes on that little petrol engine because it's complete garbage (wet belt drive, enormous oil consumption etc)

not a great engine, the rubber timing belt breaks down due to its wet belt design. The oil breaks the belt down and the tiny particles of rubber clog up the tiny oilways causing engine premature failure. Changing the timing belt every two years solves this problem along with regular oil changes.

Around 40mpg ? that's dreadful. My current 1.2 c3 does 55mpg mixed driving without trying and 60mpg on a steady A road run.

I never really get the obsession with flat floors in boots. Unless you are carrying small but really heavy items all the time, like what? Gold bars? Its better to place items down into boot. They dont fall out when you open boot. And lets face it , you carried the item to the car and then lifted it to waist height.

Citroen C3 Aircross when?

@gregmartyn1976

7 күн бұрын

Next few months

Quite a large car and I get 56 miles per gallon.

Best car. ...... ecotech engine will blow up guaranteed

So why is this the best version? Petrol head reviews petrol car and decides it's better than the EV he hasn't driven yet I had a car with this engine ten years ago and now every mechanic with a KZread channel says wet belt avoid avoid avoid. To be fair the engine drove well but after coming from a manual I hated the auto, and it was available auto only as well. Today with 2024 traffic, EV is miles ahead.

@NobbyOnCars

9 күн бұрын

I haven’t driven what? Citroen e-C3 review | This could be one of Citroen's best cars! kzread.info/dash/bejne/aI2Xyqhtqq2xiNo.html

Drum brakes!!!

@NobbyOnCars

Ай бұрын

A 40k ID.3 also has them….

En anglais... Merci je ne comprends pas votre langue??????Vous m'en mettrez 3 Kg... Salutations

Wow it looks great, and seem to have a lot of visibility. Also like the way they did the speedo Edit: oh nevermind it's got the wet belt engine. Pass What a shame, it did looked interesting Edit 2: didn't do my research. It does have a chain. Absolute gem of a car then I think

@laurradu868

Ай бұрын

No, it doesn't have wet belt engine.

@iCarlosPro

Ай бұрын

It uses a chain now. Problem solved.

@sergiosanmuahahaha

Ай бұрын

@@laurradu868 thanks mate, good to know

@sergiosanmuahahaha

Ай бұрын

@@iCarlosPro thanks, then nothing to object. Cool car

If this has one of the Peugeot 5 speed gearbox engines, they are sheeeeeeet. Extremely loud and NOT frugal. Also no elasticity at all. AND that Peugeot display an UI is the worst. Designed by a fool, with the resolution of about 10 dots per inch. If it has none of the above: Great!

Because it kicks out carcinogens?

@NobbyOnCars

20 күн бұрын

Yet more people have watched my video of a petrol one over the EV version.

not a car for claustrophobia sufferers

This was an electric car ……he didn’t open the bonnet …😊

@ISuperTed

28 күн бұрын

And that gearbox was fake too. Clickbait! 😂

the previous car was nice, this new one ... ugly as hell !

1.2 pureshit? No thanks

Not sure I see the point in a dinosaur sucking construction with 2.000 moving parts in this day and age but I guess it takes time to convince everyone.

Petrol can never be the best version :D

@MG3-Hybrid

Ай бұрын

Diesel can be the best option for many but petrol wins for most.