Yeah I'd definitely be interested in seeing more of this mate. During times like this, most churches are having to livestream or do prerecorded broadcasts online. So it would be good to get an idea through your constructive criticisms as to what to do and what not to do. Font was never something I thought too much about, so good to know.

Hey, Jake! John-Marc here, I’m the director of worship arts at Ahop Church, the second stream you reviewed. Jason shared a bit of what we do but not exactly how we get our audio to where it is. We do not run off the foh feed. We actually have a completely separate board in a studio recovering 32 channels from our stage box. From there I am sending everything into a Mac computer running protools and specifically Luke’s template which you promoted and I purchased...so thanks a ton!!! We have been experimenting and learning as we go but I will say that waves real time tune is far better for us than any other plugin for our vox. Can’t recommend this template or the plugins you recommend enough!!!! We do run our system slightly different than Luke does but only because I like an insurance policy. The soundcraft board acts as my back up should the protools session crash, which has happened. Not much but it can happen. We mix the template session first and then the best version we can off the board. That said, there is absolutely no comparison. Thanks again for all you have done to help churches like ours and just so you know, our pastor watched your feedback and immediately said, “let’s get the cameras we need.” Thanks again and blessings on all you do bro!!

Yes, please make more of this content, we can learn a lot from this.

@sfcnetworkministries

3 жыл бұрын

agreed

So helpful for us just beginning to realize that our simple livestream have so much room for improvement. Cameras, lights, audio, and software reviews will help us adjust, so please keep reviewing what others are doing. Thanks!

I think this is helpful. Very few churches have "pros" to help them evaluate and make adjustments. Like one comment, I think having others on-screen with you might give some perspective or alternate ideas than what has worked for you in your situations. We all need constructive help, no matter where we serve :) Thank you, Jake, for thinking of us in making this sort of video.

Yes. Definitely make this a regular feature. It is very informative and helpful.

Two big problems with churches getting into live streaming at this time. 1. Listing to way way too much bad information about how to go about it. I can't even say enough about the bad info. 2. Buying cameras that want perform well in average church lighting. Your lighting may look good to the human eye sitting inside of your church. Does not mean it will look good to a cheap/low budget camera with a small sensor. Tips on buying a camera, buy a video camera, you're doing video not stills. If you're going to use a fluid head (for pan/tilt) and or run cables long distance (over 20') buy SDI not HDMI output, it will be about $500. But you want need to buy adapters and other hardware. Buy one with at least 1 inch sensor or at least 1/2.84 inch. Examples with SDI output, Canon XA55 or XA15. Examples with HDMI output, Canon XA45 or XA11 there are other brands with similar specs. Less face it you could start streaming this Sunday with a smartphone and a KZread or Facebook account and wouldn't cost ya a dime. Pick out a couple of churches in your area that's doing a good job at streaming and go look at how they are doing it. Hopefully you can find one or two that's been doing it for several years. There's lots of good info in this video about lots of big mistake$$$. Good job Jake!

Awesome conversation and feedback given. I think more of this kind of thing is what can practically help a lot of us in the church production world get better!

the vocals in the 2nd vid is awesome. man and woman's voice is perfect. such gift..

Jake these are awesome comments/critique. Super cool of you to do this and share your expertise.

Such a great video, as we are able to learn a lot for those who are not fully up with live broadcast yet. More videos will be appreciated.

Hi, yes please make it a regular thing. This is the best way to learn for our own live streaming experience

Thanks for the review Jake. As always, great comments and feedback for our livestream!

Super helpful to see these reviews! Thanks for doing this. Our church is nowhere near the production level of the churches reviewed in this video, but it's nice to get tips like these along the way so we're setting a framework for scalability as we look to increase our production level one phase at a time.

Yes keep doing these. Our church is just getting into live/pre-recorded streaming. I am learning tonnes of stuff!!!

Great idea. I'd totally participate, slept on the socials this time around.

Nice Jake! Keep it up because it is good to hear your comments and review!

This was really good! I would love to see more.

*sigh* wish you showed smaller churches. Maybe some Latino churches

@beachpunk

3 жыл бұрын

I feel that. We don't have the biggest budget and seeing majority of the tips being spend more money is kinda disheartening

@jahardo

3 жыл бұрын

Agree totally. I saw some of the videos that were posted in the fb group and was excited to see feedback on them since they were smaller. Over 50 percent of churches in america are under 100 people and don't have the resources that the churches we just saw do.

Man dude love this video! Also love seeing you do some stuff with my friends over at Austin Stone. I love those guys, and a couple of their leaders have poured into some over the years. I think it’s really cool to see God using this channel and the fruit that’s come from that. I remember when you had like 4K subs, and man you really were faithful to what God had given y’all with that. Think it’s cool how many people God has reached and even maybe recharged through this. Love it man! Keep dwelling in that land.

@Churchfront

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Christian!

Second stream sounds great, volume is spot on and clarity and balance is great. I would probably use some different reverbs if possible (ie plates) as they sound a little bit better for streams in my opinion. Halls tend to get a bit boxy or washed out

Yes please do make this a series, on a bi-weekly basis, if weekly is too much for you, but I would love to see more of this!

Great content. Please continue these videos I’ve learned a lot since watching your videos. Keep up the great work!

Yes please do more. This video makes me embarrassed to show our live stream lol

Re: church 3... Bands and vocalists who aren't pros tend to get louder when they get excited and when the tempo gets faster. In most cases, they also play/sing a lot louder on the first song than they did in rehearsal!

Yes! Would love to see more!

Yes please continue. Vrry helpful.

Enjoyed watching and think you did a great job with overall content! xo

Please make it regular. The differences in the church livestreams can bring up different strategies and ideas.

Jake this was really cool. I’d love it if you kept this up.

" I saw the vision from Jesus. On the right side of the valley behind the pit and 2 ghouls I saw a crooked path of circle saws made for cutting made of rusted silver and gold. Not more than four in a row. No machine making them spin counter clockwise and whirring. " Wesley Lawrence Curry II

We want to see more of this content, I'd love to get feedback on what my church is doing and hearing more of your thoughts on other churches!

Would really like to know how often this is done. There are a couple of things that I want to fix, but soon after I would love to submit our livestream for an honest review.

Keep doing this type of video, we are new to live stream and learned a lot since looking at your video.

Jesus Church doesn't need tuning...but, the vocals need a little compression, and the cymbals are a bit too bright.

Re Church#2: Compare the brightness of faces & hands of each person in each shot, compare brightness of each band member. Too much shadow some places/time. The lighting is obviously focused away from faces, not spread evenly.

Some good info pointed out in all 4 videos reviewed. Thanks Jake.

I have serious issues with the audio mix - the snare and HH are lost in the second video.

@ZTTowell

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Graves into Gardens sounded alright. God of Revival sounded super dark and the snare was nowhere to be found.

@Lantor51

3 жыл бұрын

There was a snare?

@cdubb9781

3 жыл бұрын

agreed. the 2nd mix was rough

These churches should look into investing in something like an optimod. (The PCIe version, optimod 1100, is like 1000 usd. Or when you want software only, StereoTool starts at 30 USD for just the multiband and limiting and BreakAway at 100 IIRC) Those are great as final processing. Especially when you arent doing a seperate stream audio mix. You don't have to pump them like radio stations do. But they still make everything balanced, loud and clear. As for the text on white background, a trick I learned in broadcasting is, put text on a white background. Then add shadow (photoshop) and make it a bit wide and just transparant enough that you can make out the text. Also make sure the shadow is 100% centered with the text, not a bit down or to the side. Use those settings during the video (or reference when you use other software live.) Because on normal conditions, you won't see the shadow almost at all but on bright condition, you can see the text easily.

I love watching your content!! can you do a part 2 please? I'd appreciate if you can review my congregation's live streams.

Great! Thank you, I'd love to see more of this. ☺️

Drum bleed in the 4th one is most likely due to off gain stage throughout the overall audio design. My church went though The exact same thing when starting to use a DAW for broadcast. I came on staff and found an overuse of compression to make quiet things loud and loud things quiet. There might be an overuse of compression on the 4th livestream.

Love this video. It would be cool if you kind of made it a series and then had guests help you review the services

Hi Jake. What console (Universal Audio Interface) are you using @ 2:10 - Our team could really use an audiometer. We have a member (normally myself when I'm not on location or my wife) that monitors the audio and video quality from home (to portray the user's point of view).

love from the Philippines! As a media director, your videos really helped me

Yes please, do more.

I SAW, IN A VISION FROM JESUS, A VALLEY AT NIGHT. A FULL MOON WITH A BRONZE AURA IN A STARLESS NIGHT SKY. I COULD NOT TELL ON THE HORIZON IF IT WAS MORNING OR EVENING.

Super helpful. Great to learn from real examples and foster a supportive community.

Good stuff to think through. Thanks for the help. Time to go check out Mission Lakewood's live stream... ;)

Great work.... I would love to see more of these kinds of videos too. Learned a lot of it

James 5:3 (KJV) Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

At 12:40 you mention using a vocal tuning plugin. Is that some you just suggest for the mix that is going out to the livestream or could that be a common practice for the house mix to help tone challenged individuals? I know that it just made to correct slight variations and not notes that are completely out of the ball park, but just wondering.

Please make this a regular thing!

Thank you so much for sharing your input. Are you still reviewing live streams? It would be amazing to get feedback on my church live stream.

This is a very good content! You should make this content continue!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

Hey Jake, great video. I’d love to see this become a regular upload. Also, when’s the next tech tour coming out? Love watching those.

@Churchfront

3 жыл бұрын

Finishing up the Life.Church tech tour. Coming early November.

@jadendorapalli9610

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll be watching! Thanks

I can't find an easy way to put an audio level meter for the your tube video like you did with your Universal Audio Interface in PC... I would like to monitor my levels coming out of youtube in real time... any advice? I want to do it with just a laptop connected to the internet and the yt streaming on.

Looking forward to much more of this, really appreciate it.

Im gonna disagree about the 3rd church’s acoustic guitar. It was a tad bit too loud, but with some practice they can figure out how to have the acoustic guitar seated a little more than a shaker. It looks silly seeing members onstage using instruments that we never hear

Yes please!

Man, would love to see another one of these for sure. 🙌

More please!!!

This was indeed very helpful for me

we are using a x32 and is using a bus mix then sending it to a camera then going back into a pc my question is should the audio feed go direct to the camera or the pc ?

love this video!!! please make more!!!

Do a few more of these.

On bright setups use shadows on the font

Yeees pleaseee would love to see more of these

That was great! Keep doing this content pleasee

Please continue this bro...!

Helvetica is too generic and then you are suggesting Futura and Montserrat? Literally the most used fonts in the world haha. Love the critique but fonts may be chosen for certain reasons (i.e. it's the overall church brand that the tech team have to stick to) and the team doesn't have control over that! I personally love Helvetica (Neue) and think it's a really great option for this!

The first stream audio could definitely be louder and it sounds a bit thin so maybe some more low mids

More!

Yes, please do more videos like this!

Yes

Jake you should take a look at centro vida on KZread there live stream looks like it’s legit pro and they shoot on a7IIIs it’s in Spanish but everyone can appreciate good camera work and directing

need help - - our wireless mics have a on of interference - we can't find a clear channel - makes live streaming a nightmare...have you done a video on this???

Great content from you and the churches...maybe it was me but it seemed the first two were off on audio sync. Just a little behind the audio. We are a small church and produce nothing like any of these but we had to adjust the audio to delay to match the video. Thanks for all your videos, been watching a lot trying to learn how to make do with what we have. Our church is brand new into livestreaming. Audio is kicking my tail...grrrr!

@bctaberah

3 жыл бұрын

Getting the audio right is the hardest part about live-streaming a church service. Keep at it, every incremental change you make from week to week will eventually lead up to something you are happy with.

@annaheightsbaptistchurch5275

3 жыл бұрын

@@bctaberah Thanks for the encouragement. God's word is definitely bigger than my poor audio.

Good relationship hett

Great video. Definitely more of this!

Great. Please do more. 👍🏼👍🏼

Great reviews!

yes love this!! so helpful! Thanks!!

2nd mix is too low-end heavy and instruments have no high-end, can't discern different instruments. All too washed together-sounding.

Our live stream is struggling right now. We are using a HC-VX870 Panasonic plug-in to a cam link to a Mac book pro then going live on Facebook. I am using a hot spot from my phone for now. Any suggestions?

I absolutely loved this!!

More, please! Yes!

Sounds like weird phasing issues in #4

Keep doing it!

Hey, does anybody take a different approach to monitor your live stream mix from your DAW other than setting up an aggregate device with an interface? Wondering if there's a more efficient way to do this...

On your master out I would rather use a limiter

The vocals in stream #4 sound super boxy/ “tubular”??. I would pic a different reverb and use a bit more of it just to seat the vocals back a bit more. Overall the instruments could also be much more prominent

@Kynect2Hymn

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like comb-filtering, and also sounds like they used a backing drum track.

6:39 Practicality question: When you have a frame like that, would it not be better to disable the lower thirds for the online user momentarily because the camera is basically displaying the lyrics?

@StephanAinley

3 жыл бұрын

I would think having a consistent place where lyrics are would be better than making people hunt over the screen if the camera should change. Just my first thoughts.

Question. Why don’t projector screens look good on camera?

Yes. more please.

Make more we learn so much

Hey can you do a video on different hardware encoders?

Thanks for this! More please

heck yes, way more of these!!!

Great content