The non-denominationals being Baptist with smoke machines line killed me, and is very true.

@ChristiFuturum

8 ай бұрын

Baptist-lite

@leonardticsay8046

8 ай бұрын

Don’t forget stage lighting and theater styled seating.

@Rolando_Cueva

8 ай бұрын

Pentecostals too!!

@ma_yuvari2215

8 ай бұрын

Pfff as a "non-denominational" i agree😂

@malgtuzi5020

8 ай бұрын

@@Rolando_Cuevanah Pentecostals and Baptists have tons of differences and Pentecostal churches are even more diverse. The Pentecostal churches with all the modern tech and concert-like worship tend to be more Charismatic-leaning and are the ones you would hear more about online.

Zoomer as someone with a philosophy and biblical studies degree with emphases in church history and hermeneutics and someone who is just fascinated with denominational differences this is a phenomenal video with tons of digestible info on such a broad and dense subject. Absolute 10/10 video. I loved it!

@MrYutbe57

8 ай бұрын

@redeemedzoomer6053 I left a comment as well but I don't think it was posted (driving through dead zone) anyways here's the summary. I'm from small town Arkansas in a town very close to Harding University (church of Christ college) and CoC is almost as big as the Baptist churches here. There are lots of different Pentacostal and charismatic churches around here as well and while it might be different outside the deep south since it is so heavily baptist influenced, all the CoC and Pentacostal churches and believers I know would affirm the Nicene Creed- at the confirmations. You correct about the anti intellectual culture tho. None would know what the Nicene creed is but would affirm the 4/5 major confirmations.

@Sage1Million

8 ай бұрын

Agreed I think his Jewish cultural background has helped him become an excellent christian scholar as Jews are supposed to study the Torah everyday and every time they have free time thus throughout history Jewish people have had high numbers of literacy and education. God’s chosen people were chosen for a reason! Remember salvation came from the Jews, it says so in the Bible.

@ihiohoh2708

8 ай бұрын

@@MrYutbe57 KZread tries to silence "wrongthink." Happens to me all the time when I post things about God or politics. I can't even see that guys post you replied to.

@MrYutbe57

8 ай бұрын

@@ihiohoh2708 I was tagging Redeemed Zoomer the guy who posted the video. I think he replied to my comment originally but I never say it. May have misread a notification and it could have been a like.

@NotNecessarily-ip4vc

8 ай бұрын

[Genesis 1 Elohim vs Genesis 2 Yahweh Elohim]: "Deus" means "God", "Dea" means "Goddess", and "Dei" could either mean "gods" (plural) or "God's" (possessive) based on context. The Hebrew counterparts to the Latin above are El, Elah and Elohim. The Hebrews "syncretized" these three titles of God into all just meaning "El". The sheer amount of biblical contradictions that has caused is staggering. TL;DR Yahweh is a Deity (Elohim), not Deus (El), and a false one at that. Yahweh says "I am Yahweh your Elohim (Deity)" like a thousand times in the Old Testament. The Elohist uses the possessive context for Elohim (except when referencing the false Elohim). The Yahwist, Priestly and Deuteronomist use the plural context for Elohim (except when referencing the true Elohim). What is the heresy of two powers in heaven? The basic heresy involved interpreting scripture to say that a principal angelic or hypostatic manifestation in heaven was equivalent to God. The earliest heretics believed in two complementary powers in heaven, while later heretics believed in two opposing powers in heaven. The Bible isn't mainly about El/Theos/Deus or whatever language you want to say the title (not a name) meaning God. The Bible is about Elohim (sons of El). Good vs evil Elohim, True vs false Elohim, Chosen vs adopted Elohim, Necessary vs contingent Elohim, Genesis 1 Elohim vs Genesis 2 Yahweh Elohim. Bibles should note when Elohim is used as plural or possessive. They do not. Try reading the NOG translation on Bible Gateway website. Uncensored. El and Elah are also mentioned in the OT but not until much later in the story and far less frequently than the true and false Elohim from Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. Theology comes from combining two Greek words: Theos, meaning God, and Logos, meaning Word or rational thought. [The Word is Elohim from Genesis 1] (not to be confused with Yahweh Elohim, the false Elohim, from Genesis 2) Compare John 1: 1-5 with Genesis 1: 1-5: John 1: 1-5 Names of God Bible The Word Becomes Human 1 In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was already with God in the beginning. 3 Everything came into existence through him. Not one thing that exists was made without him. 4 He was the source of life, and that life was the light for humanity. 5 The light shines in the dark, and the dark has never extinguished it. Genesis 1: 1-5 Names of God Bible The Creation 1 In the beginning Elohim created heaven and earth. 2 The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep water. The Ruach Elohim was hovering over the water. 3 Then Elohim said, “Let there be light!” So there was light. 4 Elohim saw the light was good. So Elohim separated the light from the darkness. 5 Elohim named the light day, and the darkness he named night. There was evening, then morning-the first day.

I am Eastern Orthodox and I've studied the spectrum of Christianity for a very long time. Your summation is superb. Well done!

@leiyeuktsui8449

7 ай бұрын

Greek Orthodox here☦💪

@bad_covfefe

6 ай бұрын

Orthodox represent.

@REVNUMANEWBERN

5 ай бұрын

What does THAT term mean to you? How would YOU define such??@@bad_covfefe

@shaddjimenez7687

5 ай бұрын

@@leiyeuktsui8449To all the Catholics here: “Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.” Matthew 23:9 NASB1995 They call the pastor "Father". ““And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.” Matthew 6:7 NASB1995 They repeat prayers over and over, i.e. "Hail Mary", Hail Mary, Hail Mary, Hail Mary, Hail Mary, Hail Mary. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gpeGmpeImsveZrA.htmlsi=PcNwgjhlkAYAym5D Satanic statue behind the Pope in his main hall. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZ1-mLazqN23daQ.htmlsi=igIGmmh0W-4flgGN Pope's audience hall is blatantly Satanic. The Lady of Guadalupe was made up to convert Native Americans, found no where in the Bible. Baby baptisms are found no where in the Bible, Jesus and his Disciples taught the people before Baptizing them, the baby is not taught anything before getting wet. There are no Confession booths in the Bible, and they make you do repetitive prayers after confessing your sins. ““And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.” Matthew 6:7 NASB1995‬‬ To all the Muslims here: Why would God wait 600 years to tell humanity that the Jesus on the cross was a fake Jesus? Because in Islam they believe God put a mock Jesus on the cross, and raised Jesus to Heaven in secret. But if this was true, that means God waited 600 years between Jesus dying on the cross and telling Muhammad on the top of the mountain that that was a fake Jesus. God would not do this. The ancient manuscripts have been found to be accurate with our Bible today. So much of the Torah foreshadows the Gospel, but nothing from the Gospel foreshadows the Quran.

@shaddjimenez7687

5 ай бұрын

@@bad_covfefeTo all the Catholics here: “Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.” Matthew 23:9 NASB1995 They call the pastor "Father". ““And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.” Matthew 6:7 NASB1995 They repeat prayers over and over, i.e. "Hail Mary", Hail Mary, Hail Mary, Hail Mary, Hail Mary, Hail Mary. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gpeGmpeImsveZrA.htmlsi=PcNwgjhlkAYAym5D Satanic statue behind the Pope in his main hall. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZ1-mLazqN23daQ.htmlsi=igIGmmh0W-4flgGN Pope's audience hall is blatantly Satanic. The Lady of Guadalupe was made up to convert Native Americans, found no where in the Bible. Baby baptisms are found no where in the Bible, Jesus and his Disciples taught the people before Baptizing them, the baby is not taught anything before getting wet. There are no Confession booths in the Bible, and they make you do repetitive prayers after confessing your sins. ““And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.” Matthew 6:7 NASB1995‬‬ To all the Muslims here: Why would God wait 600 years to tell humanity that the Jesus on the cross was a fake Jesus? Because in Islam they believe God put a mock Jesus on the cross, and raised Jesus to Heaven in secret. But if this was true, that means God waited 600 years between Jesus dying on the cross and telling Muhammad on the top of the mountain that that was a fake Jesus. God would not do this. The ancient manuscripts have been found to be accurate with our Bible today. So much of the Torah foreshadows the Gospel, but nothing from the Gospel foreshadows the Quran.

Zoomer, I just want to say thank you for encouraging thought. I grew up in a traditional southern Baptist church, and am now in an Assemblies of God church. Up until recently I never really gave thought to my beliefs and the specific scriptures they came from. But since I first saw your content I felt a new drive to really dig in and study the Bible. I’m only 17, but my heart for God is more on fire than it ever has been. Just want to say thank you, keep up the great work!

@gir850

7 ай бұрын

My experience was pretty similar to yours. My extended family was all southern Baptist when I was a kid. I moved around a lot and went to a different denomination church each time (Apostolic Faith, nondenominational, Vineyard, and some others). Now I'm at an AG church, and I'm very happy to be where I'm at. Keep going strong and pursuing the faith.

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

Is that Anti Trinity?

@anonymouswitness3835

Ай бұрын

@@Abcdefghijajajaja nope of course not! You're thinking of Oneness

I love how you treat each church with respect even when you don’t believe in their faith. Being a catholic from the Caribbean (catholic church with a pinch of Pentecostal in there) makes me appreciate these videos a lot.

@jl63023

8 ай бұрын

High Church Anglican from the Caribbean, and that's unfortunately true for us as well. So much Pentecostal influence

@TheShogunRichie

8 ай бұрын

I'm also from the Caribbean and I'm high church, so I've been moving towards Anglicanism. The pentocostal chharismatic influence is indeed very strong.

@zmanthepanda

8 ай бұрын

My mother was catholic, but left the church in her early years. I researched and found the lord myself, decided to go pentecostal, took her once, and now she's back in again.

@nerysghemor5781

8 ай бұрын

Catholicism plus Pentecostal?? I can't help but wonder what that looks like.

@icarojose6316

8 ай бұрын

In South America Priest are famous singers like Padre Fabio de Melo or Padre Marcelo Rossi, so it’s a bit similar to Pentecostism

I’m Catholic and until 2 years ago I didn’t know much about different denominations, but now I spent two years in a Protestant school (non-denominational/Baptist), and now I find it super interesting to learn about those denominations and their history, even tho I’m still a Catholic. I love your content.

@midnight_77

8 ай бұрын

I’m curious, as a Catholic what are your views on Baptists and non-denominationals? I attend a Baptist school and a non-denominational church. I’ve been studying Catholicism and Orthodoxy and am becoming increasingly frustrated with the doctrine of a lot of Protestants.

@Joe-tn7wo

8 ай бұрын

@@midnight_77 Ight so, I’m Catholic and I’m butting in, also don’t speak for the whole church, but I see many of us feel like that Baptists are missing stuff such as Christs presence in the Eucharist, tradition, etc, but we still see them as Christian because they are baptized in the name of the Father son and Holy Spirit. Though missing out on things like the body and blood are important to us as we see it as spiritual food and such. All respect to you and your beliefs tho! Have a great day!

@midnight_77

8 ай бұрын

@@Joe-tn7wo thanks! Funnily enough transubsantiation and Sacred Tradition are two doctrines I am very interested in and considering as truth right now. I very much accept that Sola Scriptura cannot be true, so recently life at a Baptist school has been a lot more frustrating, sitting through all the sermons and teachings. I've also completely ruled out Calvinism; kinda concerning that I also have suspicions that my church holds to Calvinist beliefs. So basically, I can agree I really need the Eucharist 🙃

@HelieNerb

8 ай бұрын

@@Joe-tn7wo yup, you pretty much summed it up for me, I see them as Christians, but I just believe they are missing a lot of things that are very important for us Catholics.

@bigchungus5065

8 ай бұрын

Found it odd that despite the Apostles having bishops and priests there are baptists in the US who use unordained pastors. Gets even more horrifying when some denoms just have an application form or so I heard. At least many other denoms have priests undergo study in seminarians like the Catholics or Orthodox although some (oriental) Orthobros apparently are actually Christological heretics or something of that sort. As a Catholic I have not actually went to Baptist or Catholic schools and the most I got was one school having Bible classes, is the joke about those schools being more expensive schools true or no?

Lovely chart. Everytime I go to Catholic Mass or Anglican service, the "high church," grants me a sense of peace you don't really see elsewhere. Maybe it's the rituals and recitals that bring you closer to the Holy Spirit. Who knows.

@laurent1144

5 ай бұрын

The rituals and the ornate elements of Catholicism or Anglicansim always make me feel small, in a good way. Like I'm a part of something so old and so large, it's in all corners of the universe.

@Justanotherconsumer

3 ай бұрын

There’s another axis here that’d make this 3D on formal vs informal, with, say Roman Catholics (especially those that still do it in Latin) as the most formal and groups like the Religious Society of Friends and “hard shell” baptists as the least formal of those that are even formal enough to call themselves a church.

@AFVEH

2 ай бұрын

​@Justanotherconsumer I'm Catholic, and, unless you actually know and understand Latin, never understood going to Latin mass. Just like I don't go to a mass in any other language I don't understand. I don't know how one can absorb what's being transmitted if they don't understand what's being said. I say this because I've met people that go to Latin mass and don't know a word of Latin. I live in Denmark rn, and every time I've gone to a service in Danish, because there's no English or Spanish option that week, I feel like I haven't even attended mass afterwards because I understood nothing. I just feel that the language is the least important thing when it comes to God as long as you know what's going on and what's happening.

@vintifada7115

29 күн бұрын

@@AFVEH There are missals with translations you can buy so you can understand the Mass. I’ve been Catholic my whole life and just bought one. It’s never too late

The church in my town is one of the more “open” ones that you mentioned during the Catholic section. They renovated the whole thing before I was born so that the whole church looks indistinguishable from a Protestant one. Apparently it was really beautiful before they redid the whole thing.

@jacobweist6530

8 ай бұрын

shame

@alexheeb7012

7 ай бұрын

Sad. The Baby Boomers ruined everything.

@justhair17

5 ай бұрын

As a Catholic myself, I wouldnt consider those churches Catholic anymore

@keagaming9837

5 ай бұрын

Why did they remodel it? Was it falling apart before or something?

@Galahad_Du_Lac

4 ай бұрын

There are many Protestant churches that are Gothic cathedrals as well. It’s less a break down by denomination like people think and more when it was built and where.

I think someone should make a test with this graph, kind of like the political compass test. I imagine there's some people out there who would benefit from it, and there's definitely plenty of people who would do it for fun

@nuh_uh210

8 ай бұрын

It sounds like a neat idea, until you think about three family members scoring different denominations, and the chaos that ensues 😂

@Random_Guy682

8 ай бұрын

did zoomer already make a political compass quiz video?

@yarielrobles9003

8 ай бұрын

@@Random_Guy682 he did, but Idk what happened to it. I assume he got backlash or he decided it wasn't appropriate for the channel, but I have no idea

@Random_Guy682

8 ай бұрын

@@yarielrobles9003 oh yeah its not there anymore i remember watching it

@yarielrobles9003

8 ай бұрын

@@Random_Guy682 ironically, I originally delayed watching it, since I don't watch him for politics, and now that he deleted I actually want to know where he ended up lol

me an atheist, subscribing to this channel and actively watching these videos because this man has an appeal that i haven't seen in any other channel relating to religion

@manlycracker6520

8 ай бұрын

You should convert.

@javisbavis

8 ай бұрын

@@manlycracker6520work on your flirting skills then

@eatinsomtin9984

8 ай бұрын

convert to Islam

@MrYutbe57

8 ай бұрын

Well we're all happy to have you here! I'm quite the opposite on most the theological spectrum as Reforemed Zoomer and I subscribed for the same reason. I've got a philosophy degree and biblical studies degree and he has a better handle on teaching theological concepts and church differences down better than any of my professors ever did!

@ianbuick8946

8 ай бұрын

You should use all your senses and subconscious/conscious mind to seek the Truth. Go to the root of the problem: good and evil within ourselves. Don't try to obtain knowledge about religions, it's pointless.

As a European Catholic I find it wild how many different denominations there are in the USA and it's really interesting to see what they do differently. I would love to go to a Presbyterian mass once, for example, too bad I won't ever get that opportunity. Even though I'm more of a liberal Catholic and our views don't always align, you still manage to present your videos in a very neutral matter and that's why I love your content!

@deaconblooze1

8 ай бұрын

The Presbyterian Church was born in Scotland, and still has a strong presence there and Northern Ireland.

@Ginkgarbor

8 ай бұрын

@@deaconblooze1 Thank you, I didn't know that!

@indonesianstudent88

7 ай бұрын

If I may know, which European country are you from? Countries like the Netherlands, Switzerland, and Hungary has significant presence of Reformed churches (very similar with American/Scottish Presbyterian in terms of theology)

@Ginkgarbor

7 ай бұрын

@@indonesianstudent88 Austria, we have sizeable Protestant and Orthodox minorities, but not of any other denominations

@sc100ott

7 ай бұрын

Presbyterian is Calvinist at its root, and I believe Calvin was originally from Switzerland. Apart from speaking French and being horrible skiers, the Swiss are basically Austrian 😂. So there you have it-you’re almost Presbyterian yourself !

Thank you so much for all your hard work on this. It’s helping me gather my thoughts as I continue to think through the topics of doctrine and ecclesiology.

This video was really interesting, i am a Eastern Orthodox Catechumen ☦

@fornost64

8 ай бұрын

God bless you on your path. Study of the heterodox is a fundamental part of catechism. Video did a decent job summing up some of the differences

@jackvancekirkland

8 ай бұрын

It's incredible how many young people are coming home to the Church founded by Christ.

This compass is really useful for understanding the differences of thinking on members of the faith and for knowing the differences of members of the same denomination. Thanks for this great analysis R.Z.

@CollinRezac

2 ай бұрын

But what app was it made on?

I’m a professing Baptist Christian myself and I’m very impressed with the research that was done in this video about the differences that each denomination possesses compared to the last. It’s a very well done video that shows a lot of nuance in just one religion alone, so imagine the different variants of other religions people practices Also, I’m happy to hear that you have found your path to Christ and I hope your path will lead you to righteousness.

@chrisanders713

8 ай бұрын

If he has Christ he is already has/is the very Righteousness of God.

I myself a Catholic find it interesting to learn about the different denominations. My favorite part is the difference in architectural styles in each type of church.

@michaelbrunsdon8938

7 ай бұрын

Do you find it interesting that every protestant denomination accuses the Catholic church for having man-made doctrines while simultaneously preaching their own doctrines which serve to make their own denomination unique?

@costley51

7 ай бұрын

It is interesting how theological differences play out in architecture.

@jamessilva55

2 ай бұрын

​@michaelbrunsdon8938 I'd review the history of all of Christianity and see where it takes you, I can say I love the Catholic Church

I think the main goal of a non-denominational church isn't to be 'casual' per se, but rather to be as 'accessible' as possible. It's intentionally as "low-church" as possible to make it a less intimidating church to start at for non-believers.

@stephengray1344

8 ай бұрын

Depends on the non-denominational church in question. Charismatic non-denominational groups are often that way because they think that's the most effective way to embed the Charismatic gifts in the life of the church. If they think about being less intimidating for non-believers, that's more of an afterthought than a main goal.

@braedenh6858

5 ай бұрын

For some I think the lack of formality is the point. I know it's that way for me. I find the high churches stuffy and aloof, overly concerned with rituals and mantras, and obsessive over minutiae and things I consider to be unimportant, and I believe that they create an atmosphere of faith while creating real impediments for adherents. I read the Bible and I see simplicity. I don't see the Gospels or Epistles belaboring the need for ritual, tradition, rote prayers, iconography, etc. The lack of pretentiousness is the point.

@vintifada7115

29 күн бұрын

⁠@@braedenh6858 Read closer. Catholicism is biblical. It didn’t say “build a box where the priest sits on one side and hears your sins and call it confession” but it doesn’t need to. Jesus revealed His wounds and told the apostles to hear sins. Also what you’re describing is not complexity but richness in the Catholic faith. There is a simple path to being a good Catholic. There’s also two thousand of years of history for you to dive into. Of course there will be rote prayers. Jesus taught the apostles the Our Father; He’s more than fine with rote prayers

@WhosInABunker94

28 күн бұрын

Remember that Jesus celebrated the Jewish rituals, traditions and prayers. Just because they aren't spelled out in the Gospel doesn't mean that there isn't a through line from old to new testament.@@braedenh6858

You are a blessing from God to our brothers and sisters. I enjoy your videos very much. It is great to have pictures and graphs alongside the lecture. It really helps in understanding and retaining the information. What you produce is beneficial to the believer and non-believer. I shared this video on my personal Facebook as I have a diverse group of friends and want them all to come to Christ or better understand their brothers and sisters. Thank you for all you do! Have you thought about becoming a Professor/Instructor at a university on this subject?

I'm so happy that I'm Orthodox. Long Divine Liturgy, fasting for more than half the year, and absolutely beautiful chanting.☦️

@brghtnsscntrst

5 ай бұрын

Not going to be so happy in purgatory.

@samehatt5171

5 ай бұрын

@@brghtnsscntrst bruh

@PUARockstar

5 ай бұрын

​@@brghtnsscntrst yeah, well, we don't believe in that.

@lain7758

5 ай бұрын

​@@PUARockstaratheist level argument

@PUARockstar

5 ай бұрын

@@lain7758 it's Orthodox theology, as well as early Christians theology. It wasn't ever defined before the Great Scism.

So, in a nutshell in terms of Orthodoxy: We do not ordain women as priests but we do have an ancient office of Deaconess. There is much talk in the Church about reviving this. That said, the wife of an Orthodox priest is well respected. Her title varies from ethnic to ethnic groups, but, she is much more than merely the priest's wife. As far as LGBTQ+, the Orthodox Church teaches that we should "hate the sin and love the sinner." I am one of the Orthodox however who feels that such unions are for God and the couple to work out. There are, as you rightly said, two Churches that can rightly lay claim to Apostolic Succession, namely the Orthodox and Catholic Churches. Interestingly, relations between high-church Anglicans and Orthodox are quite positive. Many former Anglican priests have become Orthodox priests through an investiture process. Within Orthodoxy, there are Old Calendarists and New Calendarists. Those on the Old Calendar have their feast days set according to the Julian calendar. So, they celebrate Christmas for instance on 7 January on the Julian calendar which conveniently works out to 25 December on the Gregorian. Holy Pascha is always celebrated on the same Sunday regardless of the calendar. Orthodoxy is very much about caring for the environment. We understand the environment in a Plamas sense in that creation is an emanation of God in His Energies. (The Energy/Essence distinction of God was lost in the Catholic Church unfortunately. The soteriology of Orthodoxy is different than every other church. We believe in a concept called "theosis." We hold that we shall not become God as Mormons believe, but we will become "like" God in His Energies. If you are interested, look into writings by St. Gregory Palamas. The Catholic Church is, surprisingly, the most diverse group! There are 24 distinct rites in the Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest and most visible. The other 23 rites largely consist of Eastern churches whose liturgies range from Orthodox to other variations. I was very happy to see that you used the term "Catholic" instead of "Roman Catholic" because by doing so, you included ALL Catholics. Theologically speaking, Orthodox, unlike Catholics, do not believe in Original Sin nor do we believe in the Immaculate Conception of Mary. We also reject the juridical power of the Western Patriarch over the four Eastern Patriarchates. Anyhow, GREAT presentation. I am curious about your thoughts on the high churches! God bless!!!

I'd probably overlap non-denominational with most of Baptist, if not all the way up to congregationalist. While it's true that non-denoms don't particularly care for broader church structures (eg PCUSA or Southern Baptist) that's not always because they want to be 'cool', it's frequently because the local locations of the established denominations have burned the parishioners in some way. Most non-denominational churches I've been involved with have a large emphasis on the Church (fellowship of all believers) and many proclaim more of a post-denominational perspective. A lot of the churches that people think are non-denominational and described as Baptists with smoke machines are actually Baptists who dropped the name from their sign for marketing purposes.

@JustAnotherMike_

8 ай бұрын

I'd agree with this and point out the Grace Community Chapel actually considers themselves non-denominational despite him putting John Macarthur in the Baptist section in this chart

@TheJmax04

8 ай бұрын

Your point about emphasis on the Church and being "post-denominational" rings true to my experience of baptist churches too.

@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287

8 ай бұрын

I'd agree that nondenominational churches are usually churches that left or couldn't get along with the bigger churches. I used to belong to a non-denominational church growing up. They used to have a more formal church with stained glass windows and whatnot. I don't remember what it was before exactly. Like many non-denominational churches, there were issues, and they ended up splitting from the first church and getting kicked around to a bunch of different places. Part of the congregation left with the pastor to form the new non-denominational leaving the other part the building looking for a new pastor. Ended up next to the railroad tracks that my town likes to call Christian crossing with the other non-denominational churches that pissed people off or couldn't make enough money and had to use old office buildings. I think my old church was over near the animal hospital in a much smaller cabin-like building before disbanding. The pastor left to do missionary work in some third world country I heard.

@swagmonee5699

8 ай бұрын

Another thing I've heard is that the reason why a lot of non-denominational churche services aren't held in an official church building is because back in the NY days, there were no Christian churches to hold services and so they had to use other buildings in that time. As a Baptist/non-denominational, I somewhat prefer a dedicated church location but their idea shows that church can be anywhere and I do respect it

1689 Baptist here. I’d call this exactly correct. I’d say Voddie Baucham is probably the most conservative and high church you can get as a 1689 Baptist. He and Ortlund are the most “Reformed” Baptists.

i love these videos, i always get a kick out of seeing my own denomination top the charts in tradition and strict practice (eastern orthodoxy)

@drivingbritt9617

8 ай бұрын

I'm a Catechumen in the Greek Church myself!

@tugalord

8 ай бұрын

I may be a Non dem, but I very much respect the Orthodox church's reverence to tradition.

@user-zr9ph4gy7t

8 ай бұрын

@@tugalord join them.

@amandarose3705

8 ай бұрын

As a Catholic that is familiar with our more traditional practices, I always find that interesting too! We have a great respect for Eastern Orthodox in Catholicism.

@byzantiphile7630

7 ай бұрын

​@@drivingbritt9617Welcome, brother!!!

For Lutherans, here is my list of Denominations. There are many Lutherans, not mentioned below, but I tried getting the big ones (in the US I heard there are around 170 denominations) I am ordering them from most Theologically Liberal to Conservative. Feel free to disagree too or add denominations I missed. Many of the Acronyms are very similar so read them closely. ELCA - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America - Very Liberal, probably the most Liberal of all the Lutherans, tends to straddle the heresy line in many churches LCMC - Lutheran Congregations for Missions in Christ- Allows Women Pastors, but not LGBT pastors NALC - North American Lutheran Church - similar positions to LCMC, but a bit more conservative I think, allows semi-open communion with Anglicans AFLC - Association of Free Lutheran Congregations - allows open communion and women suffrage, but I don't think they can be pastors? More power at the local level than higher level LCMS - Lutheran Church Missouri Synod - Would Straddle the "Tolerates Evolution" line with majority not tolerating evolution. Overall conservative and mostly high church, but there is a wide spectrum AALC - American Association of Lutheran Churches - broke off from ELCA back in the day. Is in fellowship with the LCMS. This is Jordan Cooper's denomination WELS - Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod - A little bit more low church than LCMS (not by much), but just about the same level of conservatism. Was in fellowship with LCMS, but left in the 60s due to dispute too long to explain in this comment ELS - Evangelical Luther Synod - In full fellowship with the WELS, They are the Norwegian Lutherans, whereas most others settled from Germany CLB - Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America - Pietistic Lutherans, lower church from WELS, maybe a bit more Liberal, but not to the level of NALC or more CLC - Church of the Lutheran Confession - More Conservative than WELS, was mad at WELS for not leaving the LCMS sooner so they left the WELS ELDoNA - Most Orthodox Lurtherans, has slightly different view on objective justification than most Lutherans Feel free to add more to this List if I missed any.

@user-xq7kz4ne8g

23 күн бұрын

Pretty accurate IMO. I'll just add that the defining aspect of many LCMC churches is that they left the ELCA over the LGBT issue.

You should make a github quiz with this with questions that place the person answering them on the axis at the end of the quiz.

Great list, can't wait to send it to my non trinitarian friends and show them where they are on the list :D Curious what will happen over the next 10yrs with Francis Chan now talking about the real presence in the eucharist. In my penticostal/non denominational background he was always a huge, huge voice.

@fiddleafox_

8 ай бұрын

As a Catholic, I've met plenty of Jehovah Witnesses, yet I cannot understand how they consider themselves Christian yet deny the Holy Trinity

@InvestmentJoy

8 ай бұрын

@@fiddleafox_ I'm very lost as well. One of my friends is very much vocally non trinitarian penticostal (I consider myself penticostal). The way he explains his denial of the trinity comes back in my mind just due to a lack of theological understanding. He will send me to a couple KZread videos of a guy explaining 'how it works' at his kitchen table on a cell phone. Then that guy doesn't seem to have a great hold on it either, because I'm a Google away from finding what the words he uses are in original Greek, and they often mean something very different. They're way closer to modalism than anything, because they at least accept the eternal nature of Christ. By the end of it, I'm too tired to argue

@chrisanders713

8 ай бұрын

Francis Chan is a weak willed fool. He always gave emotional pleas rather than true convicting sermons. He was about fear over faith.

@RetardEd001

8 ай бұрын

​@@chrisanders713Repent and return to tradition. Francis Chan looked into history and understood his mistake, he set aside his pride and is now open to Truth, truth that is Christ in the humble form of The Holy Host.

@mr.lad-detailingtricksntip

8 ай бұрын

I am oneness Pentecostal and I still appreciate this video and the views the creator has. It’s interesting to see how different denominations view different areas… My only complaint (outside of his comment on heresy) would be that lgbt affirming churches are in fact very liberal. To say someone who supports an abomination is less heretical than someone’s view of the Godhead is honestly concerning

This is incredibly well done. You get right to the point and cover a lot in a short time. Very impressive.

This was really well done! Great job and thank you for sharing this with us.

Please do a part two. This was so very informative for me that I want to share it with my Unitarian Universalist colleagues.

@thedukeofchutney468

5 ай бұрын

Well I believe that according to this chat the Unitarian Universalists would be in about the same place as the Mormons and this one is only dealing with things that are within orthodoxy (that is to say believe the essentials of the faith) or are just outside of it.

The video is wonderfully well-made and clear, the idea of making a compass with precise lines of distinction is brilliant! I'm from Italy and have a PhD in philosophy of religion: I find the variety and complexities of American Christianity extremely fascinating and, at the same time, a bit puzzling. Many thanks for your work!

*Ahhh I love this so much! This is really helpful for people who want to change denominations, etc.*

I'm a Brazilian Presbyterian and really live your videos. They're very chill to turn on and just listen to while doing homework and stuff. Your content is really cool man :>

I'm not a christian (i'm muslim btw) but i find your videos to be a great insight to the christian faith and i appericate your work

@svensvenforkedbeard170

8 ай бұрын

What have you learned about Christianity so far?

@gusjeazer

8 ай бұрын

I think there are better channels for a non Christian. I can recommend Brandon Robbins of Beyond the Word on YT. He explains lots of symbology and context behind Jesus's deeds and sayings. Or OneforIsrael, they are messianic Jews (Jews that believe Jesus was the Messiah). They have a lot of in depth explanations on how the old testament reflects Jesus and how Jesus fits Judaism like a glove. Of course, I could also point you towards apologetics, like David Wood, that take the Islamic arguments apart with lots of proof that Islam is wrong, but that might not be the most enjoyable to watch for you, and it would look like there can't be any discussion between religions unless we start attacking each other in debates that lead nowhere.

@JustinCage56

7 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, why does Islam believe that Christ was the Messiah yet not follow Christianity instead?

@mitkaracho4145

7 ай бұрын

@@JustinCage56we don’t believe in the trinity thus don’t consider Jesus/Isa (PBUH) as god but a prophet and messenger of god.

@us3rG

7 ай бұрын

​@@mitkaracho4145just as humans Yahshua and Mohammed led by example and one didn't steal, rape, kill....

I appreciate thr different perspectives on denominations. As a southern Baptist my entire life we learned Jesus was physically present at the last supper. All the Baptist churches in my area taught that.

@crocidile90

8 ай бұрын

Does that make you a Quantum Baptist being both physical real presence and non infant baptism🤔.... please don't superposition me into a Taylor Swift concert while entrapped in hot pink duct tape

@uncannyvalley3190

8 ай бұрын

@@crocidile90 You make it sound like not baptizing babies is heresy.

@micah4628

8 ай бұрын

same i was confused on that too

@carterbaker9176

5 ай бұрын

He meant that these churches teach that the bread and wine literally become Christ. So he is literally present in the food being eaten. This is a very uncommon belief among baptists, I think maybe you confused this with the fact he was present at the last supper.

This was great, very well organized. Please do a part two.

Great video; I just wish you had plotted J.R.R. Tolkien on the graph as well.

@VTdarkangel

4 ай бұрын

Tolkien was a very traditional and conservative Catholic.

I love your vids and as a Baptist it always gives me a chuckle how you sum up views or problems I have that I didn’t even realize I had.

@anangrytexan2244

24 күн бұрын

"Presby's and Baptists... They're natural enemies ... just like Baptists and Catholics, Lutherans and Baptists... Or, Baptists and Baptists. Damn Baptists, they ruined Baptism!" As a Baptist this is how I feel the more I learn about my Denominations history LOL.

I love how he doesn't put Latter-day Saints (Mormons) as a branch for Christianity, because we aren't. Starting from scratch is a very accurate and respectful way of explaining it. I'm impressed

@omarsfitnessworld3213

8 ай бұрын

If your a Mormon , your a heretic and must repent

@user-yr9lt7dz8k

8 ай бұрын

We are Restored Christianity, not apostate wannabes who are restored Pharisees.

@violettasauveterre5100

8 ай бұрын

@@user-yr9lt7dz8k True. We wouldn't even be able to fit on the list anyway. We place aor of importance on the leadership of the church like the Orthodox and Catholics, but don't believe in infants baptism like the Baptists.

@junpeil33t

8 ай бұрын

@@user-yr9lt7dz8kYou're a tax scheme founded by a con artist.

@yourdad2917

8 ай бұрын

Also as his definition we would be a far-leftist religion. We are a lot of things. Far leftists is not one of them

Hello there, I've shown some of your videos to my pastor dad, and he thinks quite highly of your videos. They are very informative and entertaining

Great video. I love how your channel brings together people from many different faiths and denominations. Cool to see -Pentacostal

Would you be willing to make a Google document of your charts? These are really cool and would be useful tools for categorization. I especially liked the well known pastors and teachers compass.

I'm a Protestant (Anglican) in Northern Ireland. Conservative Protestants and Catholics, once on opposing sides, are starting to band together to challenge the rise of wokeism in society, thank God 🙏

@krisdood777

6 ай бұрын

Cheers from a conservative Catholic (converting to Orthodox soon) in America.

@calebmullan4593

6 ай бұрын

I'm from NI too (and a non-denom). I think the remaining tensions between both sides remain a far larger threat than any branch of progressivism, especially with a referendum looking more than likely in the next few decades...

Trent Horn definitely belongs to the left of the "Tolerates Evolution" line- he has written "Catholics are free to hold basically any position on those questions (the age of the earth or the evolution of life) so long as they acknowledge that God directly created man’s immortal soul" Trent Horn's star looks like it's slightly to the right of the "Tolerates Evolution" line on your chart. Not sure whether that's an editing error or if it was intentional

Me, being a Baptist, not realizing we were one of the ONLY ones not to practice infant baptism.... WOW

@domoonogotno71

6 ай бұрын

My non denominational wants kids to wait until they understand. Even my 10 year old was young when he asked to be baptized in consideration of what the pastor told us the norm was.

@michigandersea3485

6 ай бұрын

@@domoonogotno71the Amish don’t usually baptize until late teens. Incidentally Anabaptists were totally left out as usual since the Reformation

@jannamontejano1034

6 ай бұрын

@@domoonogotno71yeah my mom told me she didn’t want me to be baptized until 14 because she didn’t feel like I would really know what it meant to be baptized

@rjbgfx

6 ай бұрын

He didn't mention Pentecostals, which there are several different ones (Church of God, Church of God in Christ, Assemblies of God, AME, Pentecostal Holiness, and so many others. None of them do infant baptism

@user-xg2zh6hk7e

6 ай бұрын

Jesus wasn't baptized until well into his years. Why should man be different? Why do it so soon when the child is innocent, not knowing good and evil?

1:45 in catholicism we also believe that it is about a personal relationship with God, which is why we have the sacrament of confirmation when you’re about 12 and first holy Communion when you’re about 8. during confirmation , you willingly accept the Holy Spirit into your life. During first holy Comminion, you willingly accept Jesus into your life.

"Conservatives acknowledge that they are made in God's divine image. A liberal's god is made in their image." - Me

It's been great using this chart to determine where I am and which types of churches I'd feel most comfortable going to!

as an atheist who likes to visit different religious places especially christian places your channel is pretty good for finding out cool denominations i should visit next. good job man

@antagonist7924

Ай бұрын

May I ask if you've become open to looking at new faiths to possibly convert into or is it mere interest?

@pyschoclaw9330

Ай бұрын

mere intrest

@antagonist7924

Ай бұрын

@@pyschoclaw9330 What makes you interested?

@pyschoclaw9330

Ай бұрын

i don't know religion in general is just fascinating to me@@antagonist7924

@pyschoclaw9330

Ай бұрын

religion is just fascinating to me@@antagonist7924

This is super informative. I'm very curious about differences between denominations.

The Giga Chad High-Church Conservative Othodox

Greetings from Argentina my dear friend. Catholic here, I really like your videos and help me a lot to undestando other branches of christianity. Keep with the good work and God bless you.

@user-wg6nx4zp3s

7 ай бұрын

There is an Orthodox Church in Buenos Aires. It's worth visiting.

This community should actually make a website for this with questions like the political compass quiz

For anyone interested in traditional Catholic history (especially Medieval) I hotly recommend Schwerpunkt. The stuff he comes up in function of pagan Catholicism (for those who actually are aware of the concept) is mindblowing

@KuronoCthulhu

8 ай бұрын

Patristix is an Orthodox youtuber who focuses on early Christian history for anyone interested, critically undersubbed.

@tenthclassgaming

8 ай бұрын

pagan Catholicism? bro Catholicism isn't pagan. unless you mean a mix of the two.

@fallenkingdom-zd8xh

8 ай бұрын

I recommend Bread Boys as a source of Catholic history.

@DaddySizeIt

8 ай бұрын

@@tenthclassgamingya I think he was trying to insult Catholicism. I'm not Catholic, but Catholics cut a LOT of pagan heads off for not converting. If it's pagan, which I see no more evidence of that than Protestant denominations being pagan (Christmas, Easter etc). The Catholic hate is all because some Protestant wants to take the place of Rome. They want the money and have to diminish Rome's authority to take it for themselves. They're business people.

@P.H.226

8 ай бұрын

​@@tenthclassgamingmy best bet is that it means pagan elements in catholicism, tho it should rather be said in most of christianity, as it existed before eastern schism. It's like 14february being saint valentines day but earlier it was celebrated within roman pagan religions. Same with 25 dec being related to deus sol or something like that. If it's anything else then i don't know

9:43 a lot of southern baptists have this issue, in the church i went to the trinity was seldom mentioned, so a lot of people think jesus and god are separate

Love these vids. Liked and subbed. Thanks and God bless.

I really liked this video. I'd love to see an other one specifically on other denominations.

Not him calling MLK a heretic 😪

Latin Mass Catholics be chillin in the most top right position on the compass

@thehighlander6770

8 ай бұрын

@@a2zz-gk197 They're pretty intense, but the Orthodox have also liberalized their teachings on divorce and contraception.

@aceraphael

8 ай бұрын

​@@a2zz-gk197 muh condom 🤓

@costakeith9048

8 ай бұрын

Nah, even ignoring issues about TLM being largely a rather recent product of the 16th century and the Council of Trent, the mere fact that it's not even expected for them to follow the traditional fasts (indeed, very few Catholics, even traditional Catholics, I speak to even know what the traditional western fasting days are) kicks TLM Catholics well out of the top right.

@aceraphael

8 ай бұрын

@costakeith9048 i am an eastern Catholic.. specifically the West syriac Rite, and we have a fasting period for more than half the year in total..lol.

@costakeith9048

8 ай бұрын

@@aceraphael The comment I was responding to was about Tridentate Catholics, not Uniates. Yes, the Uniates simply adopt the traditions of the East wholesale, but these traditions are foreign to the Church of Rome and thus still represent an innovation in that context. The traditional western fasting days, though nearly as numerous, do not correspond to the traditional eastern fasting days.

Not even slightly surprised that you’re Presbyterian. Love these videos. Keep ‘em coming

I really love your videos. I’m a presbyterian from Indonesia, and I feel like my church is a moderate one. They allow female pastors so that’s one thing. I love your vids

9:38 as an Orthodox person I can assure you 100% of Orthodox folks are to the right of the middle line. There are no female priests in Orthodoxy and certainly no gayism. Most Orthodox people accept evolution as scientific truth because we understand that science and religion are two separate things that can however go hand in hand. Science gives us the how of the world, while religion gives us the why. Thus, we can understand that the creation of the world as portrayed in the book is largely metaphorical and spiritual, it is supposed to teach us things about the human nature rather than how the world truly started.

Amazing video! Very well put together. I am a catholic, and i love all your content. I was wondering, where would you put the Seventh Day Adventist church in this compass?

@moona9262

5 ай бұрын

I'm a seventh day adventist and I would put us maybe with baptists. Although I'm not entirely sure with every single sda church but I would say that sdas are in this area. Hope that this answers your question.

this is a really cool graph. Thanks RZ. I'd have to say that I'm a very conservative non-denominational. I would like to get into more of a high church setting, I just dont know where I'd fall. Thinking about trying out the Nazarene churchs in my area! Christ be with you all :)

I like a lot of videos, but I never click the like button since I feel thats a really special things, at least in my mind, but this one got the like button. It was very well put together, honestly kind of felt like a Kahn academy video on Christianity and thats pretty awesome man

One thing I very much appreciate with this chart is that you wrote all of the church types spreading all the way from pure Conservative to pure Liberal.

@michaelbrunsdon8938

7 ай бұрын

Were would Jesus be on this chart?

@awcdenney

7 ай бұрын

@@michaelbrunsdon8938I think every denomination and every Christian will tell you that Jesus is in the exact place that they are on the chart lol. It’s honestly hard to put Jesus on this chart of beliefs without taking your own bias into account.

@michaelbrunsdon8938

7 ай бұрын

@@awcdenneyThe Catholic Church was founded by Jesus. It is the universal church and it takes up every single space on this chart.

I appreciated the breaking up of different Presbyterian denominations- I’d love a follow up with more of those for other denominations! As a Lutheran I get frustrated when people confuse me for ELCA when many of their congregations could not be farther away from WELS or LCMS

I really enjoyed the video, I do wish it was longer though, could you possibly make a part 2?

You really out did yourself with this one Zoomer, as a Lutheran I can confidentially say that you pinpointed our beliefs perfectly.

Joel should be on the far left, he’s near close to Universalist, not saying you need Christ to be saved

@andreasrademacher5715

6 ай бұрын

Joel Osteen being on this chart of Christianity actually surprised me. Where's Oprah?

This is amazing, I am in a non-denominational church, but since we are Chinese oriented church, we are very conservative and relatively median church.

Great video and philosophy❤ god bless you

Thanks for sharing! It helped me a lot

Growing up with my great grandparents going to a Pentecostal church, in my early teen years becoming catholic, and then later teen years and young adulthood joining a denominational church has given a unique perspective. My nondenom church currently is relaxed and focuses on the bible and a personal relationship with god. I play many musical instruments for our worship team which is something I've always liked about nondeom churches, the music is always more interesting and contemporary.

@godsstrength7129

7 ай бұрын

You like contemporary music during Church? Most of the Youth prefer Traditional from my experience. It’s like the one thing bringing them back to the faith.

@absfairabbyfouts7099

2 ай бұрын

As a musician myself, be careful not to let the music guide the faith but the faith guide the music. I like to sit out of music ministry on Sundays and only participate in music ministry when I am leading it (Wednesday nights). That way, I can enjoy church (Mass for me) without it being focused on and about the music… but that’s just me! I used to struggle with making it all about music so I try to let people know it’s okay to step down sometimes ;)

I grew up ECO and it's crazy how spot on you are, even down to specific examples of tolerance. We had a female pastor but were (mostly) not LGBTQ+ friendly.

@keagaming9837

5 ай бұрын

My church is the same way except we’re not Presbyterian. Girl priests are ok but gay marriage is just a no! Idk why some people think that acting on gay thoughts is ok. There are plenty of gay Christians out there who do celibacy because they know acting on their thoughts is bad yet some people still prefer to deny The Bible. :/

Good placement on the RPCNA. I was wondering if you were gonna include us haha. Nice video!

This was great, very helpful bro! I am trying to figure out where you think I would fall :-)

@redeemedzoomer6053

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! You might be on the high-church end of Baptist, right in the center of the “conservative” half

In Catholicism, real presence is not the same as physical presence. Transubstantiation means a change of essence. It comes from the philosophical use of Latin word substantia, which means essence, true reality. It does not denote a literal physical thing. This is the modern use of the word substance rather than the traditional one based on the metaphysical notion of substance. So the bread and wine do not become the body of Christ in the literal physical sense, but in the metaphysical sense, which is actually more real, more essential than literal physicality.

@Magnulus76

8 күн бұрын

That's true. The Catholic position is actually more clear than the Orthodox position on this point.

I'm not a Christian but I do have a lot of respect for the religion and it's fascinating to watch and learn ! Thank you for making these

Wait you're a convert too? I thought you were born Presbyterian, wow, that's kind of a relief. I converted about four or five days ago and am studying hard. You are a true Godsend, Redeemed Zoomer, you have my thanks and my prayers an aeternam. Salve.

Since I've converted to Orthodoxy, I've been agreeing less with you on stuff, but I actually really like this video. Keep up the good work! (Also looking forward to the day when you finally come home :) )

Have you read The Lost Soul of American Protestantism by D.G. Hart? Some of the ideas here are found in that book, and reading it in seminary was eye-opening

Your channel has helped me understand Christianity a lot better. I am very confused as to how I spiritually feel right now (I am not very religious but I also feel like I can’t fully identify with atheism). I used to think I didn’t vibe with the religion because most of the church environment my extended family exposed me to was very strict (my relatives are orthodox). But now I am starting to realize that it may just be the Orthodox Church I don’t vibe with instead of christianity as a whole. I know you are more on the conservative side of the spectrum but do you think those with a looser interpretation of the Bible can still be saved? Sorry if that question is too broad/ doesn’t make sense. I am very much stuck between atheism and belief in god.

@joswift360

8 ай бұрын

That was me a couple years ago. I am agnostic now but do not panic. You have so much time left to be saved if that is how you view it. From what I learned as a prior Catholic is that God won’t punish you for your uncertainty. If you have atheist thoughts and decide later on to come back to God that is ok. Redemption is a big part of many Christian denominations so do not focus on fear as there should be no rush. I would take your time to look into the beliefs of different denominations to find what you have in common with each. If that doesn’t produce any satisfactory results there are still other Abrahamic religions which believe in the same God. Many here might find that unacceptable but in the end it is up to you to decide what you believe in. If you want to believe in the possibility of God but not be quite fully Atheist you can become Agnostic. Some people call us lazy atheists but I believe the uncertainty of some things in life is a certainty. You could also even just settle as a loose non-denominational Christian with your own unique set of beliefs. This actually tends to have little repercussions. You can go to church, tell people you believe in God, refuse to elaborate further, then go home and love God. Even when I was Catholic, I viewed my own comfortability with my beliefs as extremely important in regards to faith, and giving yourself time to think through your thoughts and questions, as well as time to study will result in what belief you will be happiest with. Make sure what you believe was your decision. Don’t let others opinions control it or you will never be fully content in your own faith.

@paigeblazevic4437

8 ай бұрын

@@joswift360 Thank you so much for this comment I really needed this. I definitely feel I am in the more agnostic territory right now. I will definitely do research on my own as I feel my religious side of the family is just too stringent, plus I dislike how they judge me for the moral values/principles I hold. I also love learning history for fun and that was actually how I found this channel and exploring different beliefs goes well with exploring history topics! Also I love the term lazy atheist! I will definitely give myself time to figure things out as I am only in college and know there is much more to explore during and afterwards.

@joswift360

8 ай бұрын

@@paigeblazevic4437 I was also pulled here by looking into the history of religion lol. I find it all fascinating. A judging family can be a real difficult hurdle in life. I am glad I could help and I truly wish you good luck! :)

@michaelbrunsdon8938

7 ай бұрын

It is not really about what you feel. It is about what is true. God does exist and He wants you to get to know Him. This chart is going to be extremely confusing for a newcomer to the faith because all it shows is the in-fighting and disagreements among those who have corrupted the faith. My advice is get to know Jesus Christ through the gospel writings...particularly Mark (it is nice and concise!). Good luck and God Bless!!!

@Skin_Man

5 ай бұрын

@paigeblazevic4437 I can totally understand your conundrum. My advice would be to keep reading, researching, etc. and try and find out where you 'fit'. I came to Christianity after 4 years of reading stoicism and existentialism, but it was definitely a tumultuous period going from "vague belief in some kind of God" to the Christian story. Though funnily enough, I find Orthodoxy to be the fullest and most nuanced expression of the faith (though tbh I'm not Orthodox officially and my views are probably much more on the liberal side than some would like). I'd recommend David Bentley Hart's books, particularly "The Experience of God" and "That All Shall Be Saved" (Hart is a Universalist/believer in Apokatastasis, which is it's own can of worms but I believe it to ultimately be the most coherent position). Some of his books get pretty philosophical, though. I'd also recommend George MacDonald's Unspoken Sermons, C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity, and Fr. Aiden Kimmel's Destined For Joy. For videos, Jordan Peterson's Genesis series on YT is brilliant, but it is more psychological than theological, and I do like Bishop Barron's channel. After you've read a lot of authors you start to get a feel for the theological landscape (I'd recommend Paul Tillich's Systematic Theology, especially volume 2, and Sergei Bulgakov's The Sophiology of Death, but it depends on how versed you are in philosophy) and you can begin to find your place. I used to get really put off by a lot of Christian comments/videos because I felt I "had" to agree with them, but now I feel I can stand on my own two feet intellectually, somewhat.

Love the video, even if I did get a little blurry eyed with the E.I.E.I.O. I love all the different things the different branches see and the things we could learn from each other as a united Body. Eyes, ears, hands, feet, tailbone, everything in between, each pot known and cared for, sculpted from the same clay by The Potter's Hands. Blessings Brother keep up the good work!!

Very interesting video. Would love to see a breakdown of more specific denominations.

Very appreciated this content! I am a Catholic 😊. I would say, Catholics are still mostly conservative at least in the Philippines. There are many liberals but not to the point of being heretical. Gays and lesbians, they still respect the tradition

@fallenkingdom-zd8xh

8 ай бұрын

American Catholic here🇺🇸✝️🇻🇦

@ohboh

8 ай бұрын

As a Filipino Protestant, I am quite curious into what Catholicism in our country say about salvation. I once attended a Catholic mass in which the priest said that everyone is saved or something along that vein.

@KurianfromIndia

8 ай бұрын

​@@fallenkingdom-zd8xh Syro Malabar Catholic (only in Indian state of Kerala) here.

@KurianfromIndia

8 ай бұрын

​@@ohboh What the heck are you saying.I don't understand. Can you elaborate ?

@notcrazy6288

7 ай бұрын

@@ohboh That's weird. In Catholicism, salvation is a process that can last a lifetime. It's generally in Protestantism that people claim to be 'saved'.

As a Lutheran, I can say from experience that Missouri Synod is generally more to the right of the y-axis, and hovers either on or above the x-axis, sometimes higher depending on the pastor and approach to liturgy (I.e. using contemporary music instead of hymns). ELCA is generally y-axis left and x-axis center. I think Wisconsin Evangelicals (WELS) are more upper right than LCMS.

I think Trent Horn should be farther left on the chart. He’s definitely tolerant of evolution. Actually, most Catholics are because the Vatican has declared it a non-theological issue, advising people to refer to scientists on the matter.

I really like this list, but I think even putting non-denominational on the list defeats the whole point of being non-denominational. We don’t have set beliefs and we don’t agree with each other. And some of us might love high churches

I'm Anglican (more specifically Episcopalian), and the point you bring up about the diversity of the church is what I like so much about Anglicanism. It's one of the only denominations in my experience that priorities unity through community and common shared beliefs, and that's why I am Episcopalian. You have the opportunity to meet people from all walks of life, and gain new perspectives. I love these videos as a young Christian, and I'm happy to see so many in the comments spreading the glory of God.

@simonskinner1450

8 ай бұрын

I was brought up CofE here in England, and the best thing they did is give me a KJV and said read and follow the NT, however since I have found CofE follows the cherry-picking of the Reformation. I have studied the KJV for the truth and it is there in the NT, but my Deacon is bound to his creeds, but I am not as I have found Christianity is divorced from its roots of Abraham. No fault of Jesus, Paul or John and now I am making Ytube videos 'Myths in so-called Christianity', to open up conversations on false teachings.

@freestylevimto3109

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I’d have the low church end a bit lower but the high church way higher.

@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR

6 ай бұрын

A king's desire to sleep with another woman in adultery is not a valid reason for a church to branch off. Repent, and come home.

@jamesg9468

3 ай бұрын

@@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR There is no home in Catholicism.

I’ve learned a lot about Protestants from this channel

I would definitely like to see more of these please. Especially for the Anglican Tradition (I attend an ACNA church). Possible colab with @Readytoharvest??

@eddarby469

8 ай бұрын

Yes, currently the Anglican Tradition is like the Baskin Robins 38 flavors, and I would like to see a good view of the groups superimposed against one another. Some of the points that divide us include ... The Authority of the Bible The Real Presence The 39 Articles of Religion Women's Ordination LGBTQ Liturgical Practice High/Low Genuine Apostolic Succession The Eternal Soul Abortion I am sure some folks would look at that list and think "What on Earth"?!! But I can assure you I have seen folks that claim to be Anglican on different sides of these issues. I am ACC BTW..

The fact that your only example of a non-denominational pastor is Joel olstine probably says you should give them a better look. I can understand why someone of your theological beliefs would not really care about non demo but non demo Is very diverse with multiple unique denominations arising out of them. This is not an attack just more of a notice. Great video btw.

I am Catholic and really enjoyed this video! Besides some nitpicky stuff it is fairly accurate. I would say regarding Catholicism and Orthodoxy: 1. Capital T Tradition is still incredibly important in Catholicism, but post liturgical reform we are more lenient liturgically, it depends on the parish how “High Church” it is 2. We are more conservative in some areas than the Orthodox (take Contraception for example). I do agree that there are more liberal and unorthodox Catholics than Orthodox. However, I think that is because most Catholics are western and the woke influence is felt most strongly here in the West than the East. Most ultra liberal Catholics have been silenced/excommunicated and the only reason James Martin/Rohr are still around is because of bad church leadership. Typically they would be disciplined by the hierarchy. Us Catholics (as well as the Orthodox) take doctrinal orthodoxy very seriously. Just my two cents. Thanks for making brother!

i love this channel

Really enjoy the map of traditional protestant churches, mine in Leiden - The Netherlands is on it so I am glad

This is why I’m joining Orthodoxy. Goodbye weird, amorphous, gilded Southern Baptist cloud.

@danshakuimo

8 ай бұрын

Lol you won't find anything gilded (in the traditional definition of the word) in a Baptist church

@RomingAroundTown

6 ай бұрын

@@danshakuimoI’m not speaking literally.

Thank you! I really enjoy Your work in this and a lot of other videos. But I want to point out that there are some quite large Lutheran churches, that are in the Apostolic succession too. For example, the Swedish state church (witch is terribly liberal now) and Evangelical Lutheran Church of Latvia, which is in fellowship with LCMS, but has retained Episcopal order and it's bishops are consecrated in the Apostolic succession. And if You look at many Lutheran churches in Africa, you'll find that there are variations too - those churches that were founded by Swedish missionaries usually are Episcopal in their organisation, but those founded by Germans or Americans are not. The reason why Germans did not keep the tradition of the Apostolic succession is that during the reformation no bishops in Germany joined the reformers. But the situation in Sweden was different.

Its so wild watching the way you sort things and just being all over the place myself or flat in the middle.

Less formality is what the church needs. More community, sheparding the flock, reaching the lost and seeking God more.

I love the high church aesthetic but not the church authority or the attendant (sometimes unbiblical imho) theology. I wish there was a third axis that dealt with style of worship (modern vs traditional) since there doesn’t have to be a 1:1 relationship between that and church authority, though there’s certainly a correlation.