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@marvinrichmondtv

Жыл бұрын

🤘

Love that Ampeg. Immediately sounded like classic Dying Fetus

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

YESSS 💪

For me it has to be the Marshall. The tone seems to have more body and string definition, which I like. The Ampeg sounds cool, the Crate sounds like it has a blanket on the cab.

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely the most mid present and articulate. Least gain and low end - if that matters

That Ampeg sounds KILLER! Perfect for death metal. BTW, props for using and bringing attention to wearing hearing protection. I’ve been a metal guy my entire life and I wish that type of hearing protection existed when I was coming up. Great video! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! Yeah, same. I'm probably going to do a video eventually that's a little bit more serious about it, but it's so important. I was GOING TO do it for the Eargasm collarboration, but I didn't want it to come off like I was only making the video for a sponsor, since it's such a serious topic.

@StandTallTx

Жыл бұрын

Ear plugs not only protect your hearing, but they also let you hear everything better at the same time!

@antares4975

Жыл бұрын

also a metal guy my whole life, but my first noiserock concert a few weeks age made me feel i like i knew nothing about volume and ear damage.

Personally I've always hated the old valvestates in person, but mic'd they always sound so good, and this is no exception. There's something special about that sound. Takes me back to my teens.

Traded my VH-140C a few months ago. It needed some serious TLC. I bought it used in 94. And I already regret it lol. Great video man!!!

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for your loss! Another will come around I’m sure.

The Crate GX130c is my go to, I love plugging into it more than any other amp I own. I've never run through the Ampeg as the prices are getting higher and higher. Hopefully one day.

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

It's a cool amp. I enjoy it more for its nostalgic factor than anything else, but it's also pretty Br00tz. BTW, they are out there for deals, you just need to persistently look and be diligent. Took me like 2 months to find one.

@totalbullion5882

Жыл бұрын

The crate has the better reverb and chorus by a landslide. I have both and I put a od in front of the Crate and it slays.

The ampeg is such a cool amp it was used by pretty much every death metal band from the 90s and Kamelot

They all sound great, but I prefer the Ampeg VH140c. It just has the meanest, growliest sound to my ears.

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

It's so brutal..

You can get the valvestates, both the 8100 and VS100 a little closer to the ampeg style by using a Metalzone to “clean” boost it, but with the lows boosted a bit. Adds in some of that deep in person thump you feel is missing.

Crazy how different they are.. The Ampeg for sure I'd say. Love that..wow

I fell in love with the marshall. With a slight saturated booster thats to die for

My first head was a Crate GX130C. Brings back memories!

Missing the peavey supreme 160

@donsmith5385

Жыл бұрын

Randall as well

Awesome video. Now we need a Crate and a Ampeg vst once and for all.

Oooooooo it's a toss up between the Ampeg & Marshall w/ the mix (definitely can't go wrong with either one of those when it comes to tracking)..Now this one took a few indepth listens, but the Ampeg for chugs. ..I had a similar version ages ago(2006) believe the head was a Ampeg SS-140-C Chorus Head, that this was just crazyyyy for metal. Have yet to been able to find another one since...Another great 👍🏻 vid buddy

Would love to see a review on a valvestate bi chorus 8200. Love that one as well with the chorus engaged but turned all the way down. It's pretty sweet

Recently recorded the Crate. Sounded pretty cool but we ended up reamping with a tube amp anyway. I own the Marshall head, I rarely use it on its own. Always with a boost (OD808 or MXR GTOD).

The Marshall sounds really great, wouldnt mind having one myself.

You gotta replace the filter caps and reflow the solder joints in the crate. I got mine for $150 . Did that and it hasn’t acted weird not a single time since doing that.

I agree with you on this one, man... the Ampeg sounds absolutely killer, but if I had to choose a second I think I'd go with the Valvestate to be honest. Awesome video brother!

Holy cow. I've owned all of these amps over the years. Out of these 3 the ampeg takes the win. I enjoyed it the most back in the day too. The only reason I got rid of my ampeg was because it was having some electronic issues I was unable to figure out. The guy that bought it from me was a collector of that amp and he said he could fix it. Sure enough he did. My crate amps were always my choice of amp to just get me by till I could get something else I liked more. They were always dirt cheap and were at least reliable. I've owned i think 4 crate amps. My marshall... I actually have no idea what ever happened to it. Lol but I got it at a pawn shop for like $120 in 2002.

They all sound awesome. Sick riffing bro!

@symbolic_913

Жыл бұрын

Some profiles of these stellar amps would be awesome 🙏🏽💯

@micahj9828

9 ай бұрын

@@symbolic_913 I was talking to Tommy Victor once about his Kemper and he said modelers just can't replicate SS amps very well. He used to play VS8100s and then Crate VTX-350. He's a solid-state guy, so I believe him.

I sold vh140c and ss150 ampegs like loafs of bread at my shop in the 90s, turn the mids off, 7 the bass, dime the high, roll off all on the chorus and leave it on🤘

I had a Crate Excalibur GX2200H that was Brutal AF. It did Death tones surprisingly Well and high wattage.

@MetalZoned

Жыл бұрын

Underrated amps for sure

@Admiral_Bongo

Жыл бұрын

Decapitated used it on the 2011 album.

@MetalZoned

Жыл бұрын

@@Admiral_Bongo That's awesome, didn't know that

@micahj9828

9 ай бұрын

It's basically a 220w version of the GX130/GX140 without chorus. It's a bad mf. I have one, but it keeps burning a resistor in the power amp section and I can't figure out why. My GX140C is starting to do the same weird stuff my 2200 did before it started cooking the resistor.

@codydaniel3097

7 ай бұрын

My first full stack way back in 2000 was a Crate Excalibur. Ran a BBE sonic maximizer through it. Had a great sound with it!

Honestly I'd go for the crate. There was something about it that made it the meanest out of the 3. Second following the Ampeg and third the Marshall which sound like one of those poor bastard of amplifiers you find in the rehearsals room that have seen WAAAY to many things and... If figures. Crate FTW!

Alot of the peavey solid-state along with Randall from 80s 90s and early 2000s are great. They defined the early sludge louisiana sound. Every slower bands from new orleans Randall really was the king of solid-state for those times and I still feel like are better amps. Check out the lines after the RG series ( my least favored) any color. The Vmax V2 cyclone ect. Countless killer amps for the same price as the peavey solid-state. I loved the V2 with a DBX 266 gate and a ts9 to tighten it up.... Early 2000s monster or the Cyclone with the DBX 266.

Dope vid man new subscriber!! Still love the 8100!

In the mix Ampeg and Marshall sounded the best. 8100 might be most versatile work horse from these three. Luckily got one dirty cheap (150€) several years back. Love your content man!

I’ve waited for this my entire life

Loved my Valvestate I had back in the day. Sold it when I bought a DSL100 as I stopped using it but I kinda regret it letting it go.

I like all of them, but the Ampeg sounds perfect for death metal! 🔥

The Crate GT-200 with a tube screamer will blow all those away !

spoiler: the winner of the chug battle is us the viewer. our days have improved by being blessed by the divinity of riff after riff. cheers good sir, cheers.

Just wanted to say I appreciated you playing Homicidal Retribution during the Ampeg overview.

@spiritofthetallhills2037

Жыл бұрын

Dying fetus riffs are a must when trying out a 140c i dont make the rules

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

completely unintentional, but no problem 💪

@needsLITHIUM

Жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley it just comes naturally when playing that amp, I guess.

That ampeg is very impressive.

Hell yes please! 😄🤘🤘 I have all 3. The Crate with an overdrive gives the ultimate 90's shred tones, but on their own I give it to the Ampeg, although I prefer the SS140c.

@darrenwilliamsahs2211

2 ай бұрын

I agree. I run my XLP preamp with a boss sd1, sounds amazing.

I own the Crate and the Marshall, but have a friend that has the Ampeg and have yet to jam on it myself, but just to pick one in this shootout I'll go with the Marshall due to tonal versatility from what I heard. All 3 amps are great though, so you cannot go one wrong with any of them! \m/

@someonehadtosayit2566

Жыл бұрын

That contour knob is definitely key. It seems that one knob alone would make any tone possible

I know you were partially joking when you mentioned Static-X, but Wayne used a 8100 for recording on their first album only and used MG series for everything else. I honestly didn't believe it the first time someone told me considering how tight his tone is especially on their first album!

with the crate, put a patch lead in the effects loop. same happened with my ss140c ampeg

🤘🤘🤘 bringing the chugs 🤘🤘🤘

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

🙌

I want that company that makes the mini amps to release versions of the Ampeg and Crate.

The only Crate I have ever liked was the Blue Voodoo BV300H. But I love those Ampeg's that were manufactured through St. Louis Music(SLM). I have a Ampeg VL1002 Lee Jackson designed amp.

Man I love these amps

The ultimate thing to do would be use them all on a track, maybe Marshall on the left, Ampeg on the right, then use the Crate for leads. Hell maybe even put the bass through one of them too with less gain 😂 thanks for doing this shoot out! Maybe now just shoot the amps with their pedal clones haha

Used to own a VS265 and sold it for some reason, I did end up replacing it with a VS100h. So, what are the differences in the sound / circuit in the 8100 and the vs100?

Ampeg sounds cool!

Is the really fast riff you’re playing from one your new songs? Sounds killer!

I just recently bought a Valvestate 8100 head for $200 from a kid selling his dads gear 😅. Cleaned her up a bit, gave it a new tube and it works how it should 👍

Awesome video man! Can you do a comparison video of all your crate amps please?

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much dude! YES it's on the list, I'm SLOWLY making my way through all of them lol. I actually just bought new grill cloth for my gx600, and I think I'm going to get that one fixed up before I shoot it. Previous owner ruined the old grill, so I'm replacing it and even bought a new badge and everything for it lol.

@jesseparrish9198

Жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley can't wait for that video! My crate gx600 is pretty munch in mint condition besides one of the speaker out puts doesn't work but that's ok I don't own 2 cabs.

Not a big Marshall fan, but I like the overall pleasing sound of the Marshall.

Hey Taylor im a big fan of the Peavey teal stripe supreme 160 heads do you consider them to be worthy in this chug battle,im just curious of your thoughts on them as i see this video is a year old and im late to the party

There's something about the articulation of the 8100 that brings joy to my death metal heart.

This is why I subscribed.

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

💪

Yea I have the vh140c and have been using it for 26 years. Only recently have gone to a headrush and it's not anywhere near as good , but certainly lighter. 😛👍

What settings do you recommend for like slamming brutal death metal

yup that Ampeg sounded sick, but the marshall sounded execelent also

Valvestate all the way 🔥 the ampeg is something I’d pick up immediately if there’s a chance tho

You should try out the very elusive marshall valvestate bi chorus 8200, it's sick . I put on the chorus but everything down makes it sound nice and thick in the tone

@skaldlouiscyphre2453

5 ай бұрын

That sounds like Marshall's take on the VH-140C or GX-130.

The Marshall slays all of them and cuts way better in your mix. I just picked up a VS100 and love it so maybe I’m a little biased

@REZNAP

Жыл бұрын

I LOVE my VS100! Sick amp

To me , The Ampeg will always sound the best. However, I think the mids being turned clockwise ( more) increases the volume and how the gain acts. You can get that baby cooking and scoop the mids elsewhere with an EQ or whatever. If you leave the mids on counter clockwise ( less) the amp don't ever sound right to me.

isnt that the ampeg doyle uses? would like to know, his tone is pretty killer.

Do not forget the famous nyhc band irate used the marshall, killer tones especially on the demos and "burden of a crumbling society"

Hi. Whats the year of your amps ? Thanks

chuck schuldiner used the marshall 8100 and made it the most famous amp in this category and i think for a good reason, i have mine since 1996 and it is still the way to go for death metal for me but marhsall used cheap components back then and thats the biggest issue with these amps, i had to buy a broken one for cheap just for spare parts🙄

@spiritofthetallhills2037

Жыл бұрын

It would be awesome if marshall reissued the 8100 with the exact same schematics but just with higher quality components. The vh140c is built like a tank tho like mine literally survived a flood. only thing you gotta watch for is the signal being sensitive to dirty fx jacks which can make it cut out. Patch cable or contact cleaner def does the trick. Also it has more than one fx loop so make sure theyre all clean

@Turbo-D

Жыл бұрын

@@spiritofthetallhills2037 yes !! there is a pedal version of the 8100 preamp section out there but i forgot the brands name sadly 🫣..i think fluff has a review about that on his channel

The ampeg has a high end that some might like, but you can't beat the midrange grind of that Marshall. That's a really well designed EQ in the preamp. You get definition and grind without sacrificing anything that isn't worth it IMHO. I remember playing the valve states as a kid and always enjoyed them. Back then I probably would have thought one of these ampeg heads was just the bee's knees, I'm talking item 9 here.

I've got A vh140c 2x12 sitting on top on two celestion loaded Ampeg slant cabs side x side and there is nothing in this existence that touches it. And I've had about every amp out there. Killer vid bro but you know I'm biased lol

The B-52 LG100A is a very underrated amp. Give it a try if you find one.

Taylor, you're one of the few youtubers, whose sponsor ads I don't skip, even though since the war began and the sanctions on Russia were imposed I can't buy shit online (and I've wanted to get those earplugs for a while now). Keep the solid state cult alive, nothing beats SS amps for pure brutality. P.S. Ever thought of doing a vid on an H&K Black Spirit? From what I've heard, it sounds a like a tighter GX130C with a more flexible voicing (the distortion is kinda grainy like the Crate and it's got that growly low end to it, too). P.S. 2 Ampeg wins for me.

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

Dude thanks so much. I try to make them entertaining so you won't want to skip! 😂 I'm sorry to hear about your situation! Oddly they've been creeping on my IG and liking my ish, but haven't reached out or followed me yet 🤣 maybe though!

What fretwrap/stringwrap are you using ?

In mix Marshall Crate Ampeg On their own Ampeg Crate Marshall

Ive had the marshall ever since i learned meshuggah used it on destroy erase improve

I've owned several of all three of these amps and still have the VH-140c and GX-130c. I liked the VS8100/VS8200s the least of the three (hence no longer own one) and of the other two, they are darn near identical and a lot of any audible differences between them are probably going to mostly come down to variance within the manufacturing tolerances of the components inside them. That said, of the ones that I currently own (and again, I have owned several of each of these) my Crate GX-130c sounds better than my VH-140c - just a tad but still noticeably better. And as far as ultimate 90s death metal amps are concerned - if I had to pick a "Big 3" I would put the Peavey Supreme 160 (blue stripe) in there over the VS8100. The Supreme 160 is a SAVAGE amp.

I might be biased because I have the 8100 but I liked that mid heavy sound best, I feel like it would let the lower bass tone breathe more. Ampeg is a close second imo..

@Taylor ..... I picked up an Ampeg VH140C but I think it may be damaged ....you have to have both outputs (dry side/wet side) with a load on them correct?

@jcalzada74

5 ай бұрын

What's wrong with it.?? Volumes cut off

Can someone figure out Hypocrisy's Penetralia guitar amp/cab?

Any Ampeg amp sim models? Or anything similar?

I have an 80s Crate and it's the best amp I have ever owned. I traded a Marshall cab and $70 for it.

THE MOST IMPORTANT VIDEO ON KZread

Also like Fender M80 for death metal too

I was a Death fan gotta go with the 8100. Plus i own one myself.

The valvestate for the win

I thought the Ampeg and Marshall cut thru the mix best, but Ampeg sounded the meanest and best! Someone said that the Crate sounded like someone put a blanket on it and I think that's accurate. It sounded like a cheap amp trying to emulate the Ampeg, but it got lost in the mix at parts.

I noticed you never mentioned the cab, what speakers are you using? The speakers are the majority of the tone not the amp.

Pls do some tonex captures of the ampeg yay

Hey! are we going to see some laney stuff sometime? some of it's ultra affordable like the ironheart, and you might make it sound really good

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

Eventually!

What song is this riff from? 8:04

Bought myself an Ampeg SS150. The difference between SS150 and VH140 is that SS150 low and highs are PRE-GAIN equalizers. So SS150 is a 1978 fully solidstate circuit similar to Randall Satan (which I also own). Oh boy... the SS150 blew away everything on the market that was ever built in terms of brutality. It's has absurdish amounts of usable gain (when maxed) and cutting pre-gain low make it ultra chuggy for 7 string too. I started to use both SS150 and Satan and Satan is used as a "loose gain structure amp" in my rig xD If you ever had a chance to grab SS150 - get. It's different than VH140, you'll be shocked.

@Admiral_Bongo

Жыл бұрын

Have always wondered why they didn't make a version with graphic EQ, since the approach to the pre-EQ is very similar to Mesa Mark series.

what guitar is that?

Ampeg for the win, but a blend of that and Marshall is perfect in a mix

Cool vid👍🏻🤘🏻 Imo this is the tru result: No1: Ampeg!!! No2. Valvestate!! No3. ….. No4. ….. No5. Crate! The Ampeg was fat as hell, and the Marshall a bit less, but nice growl. The Crate just sounded more Ac/Dc ”hillbilly” dirty, allovertheplace. But think it will work nicer when playing black instead of death.

8:46 and the poor man’s GX130c is a GX600 lol

Marshall for me. Manages to be present, cutting and full without stepping on the rest of the instruments. Makes the whole mix sound bigger.

When I think about 90s Death Metal the first thing that comes on my mind is the main riff of 'Stripped, Raped and Strangled' That is just mean A good amp for the genre have to sound good on that.

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think all these would (and possibly were used) sound good on that.

@spiritofthetallhills2037

Жыл бұрын

On the bleeding they used 2 of these amps i think not including the ampeg

The Crate easily - most balanced DM sound and the best in the mix! Great video though Bro!

@TaylorDanley

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

@mikerauter1859

Жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley cheers bro, as you said the Ampeg had the best snarl - agreed, but unless your gonna sit in your bedroom for the next 20 years it's gotta be considered within a mix and how it sits with other instruments, and that's where the crate absolutely rules!

I would take any of these amps any day.

SNK has released the VH300 heads which are rack mountable VH140C clones with 300 watts and better quality components, hand built in the USA. 1k

I love the crate that I got and it sounded really killer, crunch and everything until the noise was really low and distorted and realized it was probably loose wires and but it down and it made a whistle noise when I turned it on and a “ Poof” sound and it died on me, it’s not turning on, probably get an Ampeg that I saw on reverb once I get money, so nobody take it please. The crate was good for only 1 month, got it for 600

VH140C wins for sure although the Valvestate is decent. It makes me kick myself for selling mine back in the late 90s. Thankfully we have the FleshRot and VHD pedals and amps, that use the vh140c pre-amp circuit.

@micahj9828

9 ай бұрын

Check out Aion Effects VH Drive. It's the most accurate of the VH pedals, as it runs 15v/7.5v like the real VH head. Most of the other pedals run at 9v/4.5v.

my crate practice amp is heavy but ampeg wins! CHUG, lov it. i dont see peavey n laney in your collection.....?