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@maxwuup2152

7 жыл бұрын

Indigo Gaming sounds great to me, good video once again

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Max!

@melodygeeks3917

7 жыл бұрын

Sounds with a lot of presence and Clean. maybe adding a little bit of reverb and maybe even few delay. Like really a little bit. Great Job!

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Melody, I'll take those suggestions into consideration.

@bigz4349

7 жыл бұрын

Indigo Gaming Sounds good man

While I fully realize that Trigger is widely hailed as the better game, Cross will always have a special place in my heart. The music in Cross was some of my favorite across JRPGs of that time.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

+Toast Gaming It's an interesting beast in that most people who play Cross first love it through and through, but many who played Trigger beforehand have different expectations that aren't met with its sequel. It's not that Cross is a bad game at all, it's just not what a lot of us expected after what felt like an eternity (5 years) between the two games. We can agree though, Chrono Cross easily makes the top 5 list of all time in terms of game soundtracks in my book. Astounding.

@engelsseele2

7 жыл бұрын

I always play games and watch movies as if they are their own thing. Unless it is stated be a story line sequel I try not to look too much into it.

@pandoradoggle

7 жыл бұрын

I had the same experience - I played Cross first, and I loved it.

@poojanpradhan3753

7 жыл бұрын

Toast Gaming Chrono Cross Soundtrack is just too amazing.

@lifeloverNorris

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. Objectively I think Trigger is the better game, but Cross just hits the right notes for me personally. Especially after understanding the whole story and its connection to Trigger, which is not very apparent, I think the plot is fantastic and deep. It's the execution that leaves much to be desired but what the hell, I love the game regardless.

As a child, I played so much New Game + in Chrono Trigger that my gold went past the limit and started back at 0.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Nice! A friend of mine got so many SHiFT Codes in Borderlands that it did the 0 reset too. How things haven't changed...

@ultimaterecoil1136

5 жыл бұрын

Indigo Gaming I got so many bolts in ratchet and clank deadlocked that my game crashed.

@ultimaterecoil1136

5 жыл бұрын

DAXFULLFX I had that many bolts and bolts were on the screen everywhere. Tip never play end zone challenge with only a weapon that has every mod slot as a bolt mod. Leave a few slots for something else so you don’t crash from bolt overload.

@ultimaterecoil1136

5 жыл бұрын

DAXFULLFX I was using a backwards compatible ps3 aka the first one.

@FirelMusic

5 жыл бұрын

I regret to inform you that just doesn't happen in the DS version.

Chrono Trigger! Best Videogame ever + Best Videogame Sound Track + Best Endings on Videogames + Best Characters. What Else you Need as a gamer??

@DarkerPhoenix1

7 жыл бұрын

4k gaming grafix

@Spacefrisian

7 жыл бұрын

Xenogears imo.

@cesarkopp2

7 жыл бұрын

60FPS, a lot of grass and microtransactions. Oh! I almost forget multiplayer and salt.

@robertrobinson8370

7 жыл бұрын

A full hd remake for switch. And. Real remake of ff7 not the bs they are trying to pull and a full hd remake of chrono cross on ps4

@ButtaMilkBiscuitsGaming

7 жыл бұрын

Man..from the Snes till the PS1/PS2 era, that was a golden era for Squaresoft. I was 17 at the time Chrono Trigger came out and I believe I spent 70 bucks at that time the game was released. Who would've know back then it would be one of the greatest games of all time. Would give anything to be able just to jump into my 17 year old self and relive those days when I brought this game. Great times...we need a proper sequel before it's too late!

I would love a chrono trigger remaster on the switch.

@karegesan

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same word for word.

@marciamakesmusic

4 жыл бұрын

I'd like if they kept the 2D sprites for characters and battles, but make the switch to 3D and use visuals like Octopath Traveler....that'd be amazing

@AdventFuentes

4 жыл бұрын

The world is behind you and praying

@hb1949

4 жыл бұрын

Lost sphere was close but not quite

@nppj1407

3 жыл бұрын

Remaster? It's sprites. They tried that and it looks like the mobile abortions. They just need to port it, like they did on PS1 or DS, or NCL to make the SNES or DS versions available.

I put trigger above cross. But i will not ever call chrono cross mediocre in any fashion. I loved that game and it's one of the few older games i have played again in the modern era.

@Evilriku13

6 жыл бұрын

you've my respect for respecting Chrono Cross, since MANY (fans) trashtalk it pretty down, just cuz they think it'll be a CT2, which it wasn't and left people dissappointed :/

@Bjorick

6 жыл бұрын

problem with cross is simple, half the game (or more) is played as a different character. I've never liked the 'body switch' crap, and many people feel the same way.

@acmilanshevachels

6 жыл бұрын

He said it was a mediocre sequel but a fantastic game, which is absolutely true.

@tobynnaylor5061

6 жыл бұрын

Bjorick I disagree. While from a gameplay perspective I suppose it can be a bit of a pain having to reassign elements and characters after ‘switching bodies’ (especially considering the change of innate). But from a narrative standpoint, the idea of switching places with the antagonist was a really interesting plot development, and I personally felt was one of the more compelling aspects of the game’s story.

@reptoidrenaissance

5 жыл бұрын

I like that it dealt with the consequences of the events of CT.

Chrono Trigger is absolutely my favorite game ever made. It’s just wall to wall perfection. Everything about it is fantastic. Beautiful graphics, unforgettable music, diverse and interesting worlds, a creative villain… I’m just so enamored with the game. I was lucky enough to have got this game when it released… And it will never leave my top spot. It’s just perfect.

The best rpg series ever made. With the best soundtrack ever made. In the department of giving you feels and feeling like an adventure I can also safely say Grandia 1 is similar to trigger.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

FelipeWalker2 I agree, it's one of the all time greats. Never really got into Grandia, but I'll have to check it out sometime.

@mecthekilla8876

7 жыл бұрын

cool bro il def try grandia im downloading it now lol

The music makes me cry and cry and cry and cry. Frankly when it comes to game music I am completely convinced chronotrigger is the best there ever was or ever will be.

Chrono was my very firstt JRPG. i couldnt have started better ^^

@madspaniardchef5351

5 жыл бұрын

it almost sets the bar too high, eh? games like this make many modern games unpalatable, in many ways. I still enjoy many games, but nothing is like this. 🤷

@brianfiszman3179

4 жыл бұрын

@@madspaniardchef5351 i was thinking the same thing

@wildout187

4 жыл бұрын

I started out with Chrono Trigger than I play Final Fantasy 7 but if it wasn't for Chrono Trigger I would never understand Final Fantasy so Chrono Trigger was my first Final Fantasy but far more different and better

Now that Chrono Trigger has fully realized the popularity that it always deserved (I had it as a child in 1995), I think to _not_ make a third installation is criminal both from a business perspective and as a service to the fans. The internet was still blooming in 1999, and Trigger had not yet realized its legendary status yet, so Cross was overlooked for the booming Final Fantasy franchise. But now? People are a bit salty on FF, and they would be thirsty as hell for another great Chrono game. Break would sell like hotcakes.

@Indigo_Gaming

6 жыл бұрын

I definitely think the time is ripe for a new entry to the series, but it would have to be done delicately. I think a mid-range budget game would work best as you'd have the freedom and creative flexibility of not having to sell 5 million copies, but you wouldn't be a dull beat-for-beat remake like the new Secret of Mana is shaping up to be. I think the I Am Setsuna and Lost Sphear games have the right idea, but they just don't have the story/character inspiration to make them as great as they should be.

@HypocritesExposd

2 жыл бұрын

I preordered three copies of Chrono Trigger DS and bought the game on all platforms to show support for the game in hopes they give us a sequel or at least a pixel remaster. Please come true....

@Terashi

10 ай бұрын

Perfectly valid point, but the problem is that I don't trust its creators to make another installation after the cringe storyline that Chrono Cross brought. Hard pass.

Chrono Trigger is one of my All-Time favorites. Simply perfect, even after countless playthroughs. Cross I could not get behind; never even finished it.

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are my top 2 RPGs of all time. Together. I couldn't choose one over the other. What I think is really amazing about Cross is HOW it ties in with Trigger. A lot of people were upset it wasn't more direct, or as you said, they thought it wasn't as deep. I disagree with that. I think the story is great on it's own, but the vague way it ties into Trigger is eerie, giving you small glimpses into the "past" (Trigger), in the story, characters, and even the music at very specific times. It really got you thinking, wondering what in the world could have happened from Trigger that brought about Cross. I think it was the perfect sequel. That being said, I absolutely want more. In terms of Chrono Break, I think Square Enix knows we want it. They know the demand for it, and I still think it is possible. Look at what they are doing today: FF7 remake, FF12 remaster, Romancing SaGa 2 got an English release, and they are FINALLY bringing Romancing SaGa 3 out in English (that's pretty amazing). Maybe it'll never happen, but I think the chances are looking up now. Thank you for making this, I think anything that helps draw more attention to it gives Square more of a reason to consider it. I mean, they are still making new SaGa games, and those have always done far better in Japan than the west. A return to Chrono could be a serious win for them worldwide simply from the excitement that would surround it. And not a remake, the original game is perfect as is and stands the test of time wonderfully. A new game!

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

I love everything about Trigger, and although I had some misgivings with Cross's changes to the formula and loose conneciton to the story, there was a lot to love in that game too. Lush and mysterious environments, fantastic music (which borrows a lot of riffs and composition from Trigger) and some amazing setpieces. I agree that we were left hanging with that series but somehow other franchises continue to get treatment. I could never get into the SaGa franchise, my only entry being SaGa Frontier for the PSX. Maybe there were better games in the series, but it might just be more culturally popular in Japan, perhaps. Who knows?

@VitneOfficial

7 жыл бұрын

Indigo Gaming Yeah SaGa Frontier was really hard to get into I agree. But Romancing SaGa 3 was fantastic, even while playing it in Japanese (and not knowing any Japanese). Wonderful soundtrack and mechanics. It used the same engine as Final Fantasy 6. I can't wait for its English release!

@abemclaughlin3121

7 жыл бұрын

But, wouldn't it make sense for a game about time travel (being it's main plot point) that it's sequel would follow suit? Also, they used a bit more "traditional" way of doing the fights that threw off some things. Now, CC is quite respected and no one has said it's terrible. Just that it's not the sequel people hoped for and honestly, it's such a jump from CT it's hard to not see why many CT fans weren't happy.

@andrewzigmont2673

6 жыл бұрын

Vitne just download the fan translation patch I just played and beaten romancing saga 3 not too long ago.

@AMcGrath82

5 жыл бұрын

I'd chose the original over the sequel. More open world, and more time travel.

The Square today could not handle the task, we would get a mediocre game at best.

@bigz4349

7 жыл бұрын

Crim Rui Sadly, I agree

@Kenpokid4

7 жыл бұрын

Really? Honestly, every Square game I've played recently (WoFF, the DQ7 remake, even 13) I've had an absolute blast with.

@masencheeks6957

7 жыл бұрын

Crim Rui Tokyo RPG Factory (I Am Setsuna) and the director of Chrono Trigger should come together for the third game

@AkaiAzul

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe what we should ask Square at this time is a remake of Chrono Trigger, see how they handle that before asking for a continuation.

@fumomofumosarum5893

7 жыл бұрын

they would either make a game with super realistic character designs like the new Final Fantasy games, or generic comic design like the Monster Quest games... : /

I've always been a ct preacher since early days, I saw cc as a trivia more than anything, I just recently decided to give it a opportunity, and oh my, I was wrong cc is a masterpiece in its own you can feel and see the love and mastercraft of their creators at the time very underrated gem, I am just afraid of becoming addict to its story and being hoojed for forty years, what beautiful and chaotic mess is cc, I love it I'm having a blast. I love the way they made cc as its own thing, they are really brave, I guess making ct2 was way too easy and they exceed their own limitations. gorgeou mess of a puzzle that cc is

@Indigo_Gaming

6 жыл бұрын

Cross is definitely a great game, and there are things to love about it. It's a bright-burning torch, just not the one that Chrono Trigger lit. If you changed the titles and a just few names in conversation, you could have released it as a completely separate game.

When the Chrono Cross part began, the colorful world reminded me of Baten Kaitos... Man, these were the good times.

In depth research, extremely well thought out points, and great editing. Keep this up, subbed.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

+ModernKohjix Thank you. Really appreciate that.

the production of this videos are amazing, you deserve waaaaay more subs.

I am one of those people that thinks that Chrono Trigger is the best video game ever made, although I'm not a great fan of JRPGs as I've used to be. It still holds up, even more than 20 years after its release. Chrono Cross is a game that I think was completely misunderstood, and ended up being somewhat underrated. It's a kind of follow-up in name only, more like a "spiritual sequel" than a proper sequel. I personally feel that the focus shift from time to dimensional travel was very smart, despite a lot of complaints that were made for some other changes (lots of characters and a confused plot, which were, in a way, the opposite of what happened in Trigger, but it doesn't mean that it was something bad IMO, just different in this sense). Also, I think that Chrono Cross had the best soundtrack ever made for a video game. That being said... As much as I think that it would be interesting to see what Chrono Break could be, I also have my doubts. These games follow more or less the same standards set by Half-Life (in a comparision): they were so well done, so perfect, that another sequel(s) could ruin the legacy of the series, not living up to the unbelievable hype. They're unique for a (good) reason. Now I just hope that after the release of CT on Steam, Square Enix could do the same with CC. If basically all the FF games were (finally) released there, and even CT made its way, why not CC? Sorry for the LONG comment. Amazing video, BTW!

These two games are by far some of my favorites, the soundtracks bring back those happy times as a child playing the games. I would love to see another game out for the series.

Chrono Cross is my favorite jrpg being from the carribean I loved the setting and the music was amazing.

@aaronm8143

5 жыл бұрын

Have you played Chrono trigger? I just started and it's amazing. I can't wait to play Cross.

Cross is beyond underrated. Such a beautiful game with so much character selection. FFVll is great and all but damn, I always get that nostalgic feeling when I hear Chrono Trigger/Cross.

Great video. I'm a huge Chrono fan and one of the many people who have been waiting for a sequel for a long time...Until it comes, videos like this make me revisit thoughts and memories of a better time in my life. Subscribed.

I really appreciate the respect that you showed towards the series. I love chrono Trigger. It was the 1st RPG I ever played and quite honestly if I could only take one game to the end of the world chrono trigger would be it. It's sad that we never had a follow up to cross that would have made it a good trilogy. It is exciting to hear that square enix is thinking about reviving it though.

My hopeful theory is that I Am Setsuna was a trial for Tokyo RPG Factory to see what they could come up with in the vain of Chrono Trigger style but slightly modernized... So since it went well HOPEFULLY they will get Chrono Trigger as a project.....

I'm currently playing Chrono Cross Time's Anguish, and I love it so much. Chrono Cross / Trigger are two games I replay from time to time due to their incredible OST, profound story, and interesting characters.

Those opening shots are breathtaking. Good work.

I truly love this series! It's story line is pure masterpiece and so complex. The music in Cross brings tears of nostalgia.

it doesn't matter which game you started with trigger or cross they are both some of the greatest rpg games of all time. Every time I play both and finish them it feels like the first time allover again.

A game about time travel that stood the test of time. Square's finest.

I can't give this video enough love. Just wanted to give the editing of the opening a special mention, that was incredible. Imagine an announcement for a new Chrono game being similar to that.

Watching the intro and listening to the music literally gave me chills of joy. They need a sequel to this game honestly.

pardon me while I go play through this series again ♡

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

I pardon you.

"The scars of time" is the best song ever composed.

I love the Chrono series especially Cross. The world and the characters feel so close to me. Not ashame to admit that I cried at the ending of Cross, that ending with a beautiful song 'Radical Dreamers' touched me like no other game could even to this day. Even though I want a sequel but deep down im glad the series is over.

Really really like your vids man 👍. Best work I've seen on KZread

Great video. I'm a huge fan of both games. Trigger is a masterpiece in every way, cross is like a really good B side on a record. Still one of the best PS1 RPGs

Not once has a game come close to beating Chrono Trigger for me. Funnily enough I played Chrono Cross first, as it was my second JRPG ever. But damn, when I played Chrono Trigger, I loved it all the way. I still do, to see a game from 22 years ago as of this writing, still hold up in every way possible, it had to be a work of love. You can feel it, in every aspect of it. I will always remain hopeful for Chrono Break, if Nier got a sequel, Chrono Break needs and deserves it way more! (This coming from a big fan of Nier, even when no one knew about it like now).

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

It is a sort of once-in-a-generation masterpiece. Things can happen, Square FINALLY gave in and are remaking FF VII, and SEGA are rereleasing games like Vanquish and Bayonetta, so it seems like the publishers in Japan are finally hearing some of our calls.

@0011peace

7 жыл бұрын

I liked DQ7 which also did time travel.

@ericmeiring2512

5 жыл бұрын

Another game that holds chrono triggers masterpiece level of a game was secret of mana 2 and we never got it in America. Its no where as breath taking as chrono trigger. It was the first jrpg that had a 6 player selection for main characters only got 3. But the pick of the main character effected which 1 of 3 final bosses you got to fight across 6 storys. It was also the first to have a class evolution systems that effected what skillls and magic a character could learn.

Hey man, first off I have to say THANK YOU: This is one of the only gaming videos that I think deserves a comment I have ever seen in the years I have been on youtube. Masterfully done and commentaried. But - I"m not even the same person I was when I played this game. I'm not expecting good things, I'm going to live through a collapse of society and member good times I used to look forward to living through. "There is only war" - is all I can really see when I look at the future now. That twinkle in my eye died when I realized that taxation is the only hope humans have as fodder of "the great game" I was born into. I don't really think that there could be a good continuation to that series. When I played Chrono Cross I was like "What the HELL is this?!" - I didn't see a tie in at all, the mulit endings was about it. The world isn't the same, and hope for the future is a joke we all tell each other to keep moving forward. That hopeful air is GONE and I don't really see it coming back. Anyway - GREAT video! It brought back that twinkle for a second.

I loved both games and played them so many times over and over again finding new things everytime

Welp -- "Chrono Trigger is fucking amazing" + "Chrono Cross is a great game, but a bad sequel" + "Chrono Break will probably never exist but us fans will always be waiting and hoping". Yes, this video was my confirmation bias of the day! But seriously, good stuff. Chrono Trigger is still my favorite video game of all time and probably always will be. Maybe someday we'll get some good CT-inspired indie games, though, like how Earthbound has stuff like Undertale and the upcoming, incredible-looking "Mother 4". I know I Am Setsuna was supposed to be inspired by CT but that seems tentative at best; at least attempts are being made, though.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

A little confirmation bias here and there never hurt nobody! CT is one of my all-time favorites too, would be nice for that legacy to continue in the future.

I just think that it is crazy with the success and popularity that the first game had and how people can't stop talking about the game 20 years later that they haven't made a real sequel to the game. Where we get a new COD, FIFA and Madden every year, hell even something to do with Final Fantasy every year or 2 and yet this is neglected. It needs to come back!

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

It is really weird when that happens. It's usually money-oriented though. Cross got STELLAR reviews (it was one of GameSpot's very first 10/10's), but the sales were well out of proportion to its ratings. I think the game's loose series connections, odd timing and the overall JRPG fatigue of the time helped ruin its sales. There were just so many Japanese RPGs at the time that the novelty of something like Final Fantasy VII just wasn't there.

Great work! This video should have at least a million views.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

If only! Thanks for the praise.

Chrono Trigger will never be forgotten by time. Its universally considered a masterpiece.

Nice video! Love these games. A minor pick at your script: you said the soundtrack was composed by such legends as Uematsu and Mitsuda. While true that Uematsu composed a chunk of songs, Mitsuda was lead and sole composer until he worked himself to sickness - he wasn't quite finished, so Uematsu stepped in to fill in the remaining tracks. Since Mitsuda both 1. composed the majority of the pieces, and 2. established the tonal style that Uematsu followed, it's best to make clear that Trigger's soundtrack is clearly Mitsuda's, with the assistance of Uematsu. All that said, I could see a case made for mentioning Uematsu first since he is clearly the more well-known composer. :) I just think I'd rather hear it the other way around. May Chrono Break rise again!!

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you enjoyed. I wasn't incorrect, they both worked on the soundtrack, and I did solely credit Mitsuda on Chrono Cross, but thanks for sharing that bit of info, that's an interesting anecdote I wasn't familiar with. I heard Kikuta was overworked and slept under his desk for months during the composition of Secret of Mana as well. Crazy how hardworking these guys were when crafting these masterful soundtracks.

@kylebavender5981

7 жыл бұрын

I did not claim you were incorrect - I just made a point that it might have been better to first mention Mitsuda before Uematsu, since he deserves primary credit. Truly a stylistic, subjective nitpick on my part, for what I would call a good video! :) I hadn't heard about Kikuta & SoM - another strong soundtrack! I do know Mitsuda continued to have issues with working himself to death with games beyond Trigger. Definitely hard working... maybe too much?

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

+Kyle Bavender I can agree Mitsuda deserves more credit than Uematsu on this one, that sentence wasn't written in order of importance, more of just how it sounded. It seems like half of the classic Japanese devs worked themselves to the bone, and their effort shows! I can see why many are content on executive or less stressful positions now. Sakaguchi has been chilling in Hawaii making mobile games for years now. I honestly don't blame him. Sounds pretty sweet.

Great video, nice homage to these games and clear opinions about them. You clearly put a lot of work into it.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Temper, it's one of my favorite series. Sad that its sequel has been lost to business and politics.

I found out about Chrono Trigger through Game Theory and it immediately became one of my favorite games of all time. To this day, it surpasses every single thing I've played (even though there's still a lot I haven't) and continues to blow me away whenever I come back to it.

Chrono Trigger is in my opinion in the top 3 games I ever played, and I only just played through it in the past couple years as I was a touch too young to appreciate RPG's when it came out on SNES originally. So awesome a game from 1995 on a 16 bit system still holds so much depth and weight, truly a great experience. As mentioned in the vid, all elements of the game are top notch and will always hold a special place in gamers hearts!

Its really hard to find a game that for me even parallels chrono trigger. it will always be my favorite game and i am sure ill be 90 and still finding someway to play it. I Truly believe it to be a piece of art not just a game. I think that is the case for many people because like you said the story is so immersive and its so enjoyable to watch everything through out time. In most JRPG's we go in and do a quest and while it might effect the games current time line those experiences are all with in the same time frame, but with this game we get to travel back and forth in time and do something that will change the entire world. like planting the forest. Personally I think that is why Chrono Cross is in a different place and uses the dimension ideas instead, because in Trigger we saw the world from its birth to its end, so they couldn't just go back to that world seeing as we would of had to see and experience that in out travels already. Maybe thats been stated before but that is how i have always looked at it, i am curious what everyone thinks when it comes to that, like do you think that is why the game changed the mechanics from time travel to dimensions and the such? I was annoyed by cross though i felt while it is a great game it really didn't do much to tie the two together other than name sake and unless i missed something you just find out the fate of the team and that's really it. i was very disappointment in that. i have heard that they did make character models of crono and marle but you never see them. Id love to know why thats the case, or again if i missed something in my play through (it has been a few years since ive played cross tho so i might be forgetting something) Thanks for making this i really enjoyed it, and i learned something new about a franchise i love now i have to go out and find radical dreamers so i can add that experience. Now i am craving to play the games again and enjoy the story once again.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting. I agree with you on Cross, great game but didn't do the original game justice, and kind of ruined the events of the original even in its loose connection. Glad you enjoyed my video, and yeah Radical Dreamers is an interesting experiment if nothing else. Worth a trip for hardcore fans of the series.

Quality stuff 😊

The remix at the end sounds like something out of a Metroid game. Marvelous!

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's pretty sweet. As soon as I heard it I knew what my outro was gonna be. I credit all music in my video description as always, but that track is here: Chrono Cross 'Timewarp' OC ReMix by Ben Briggs, DjjD, Giles Teskey, halc, Jeff Ball, Krank, Luke Keever ocremix.org/remix/OCR03185

Chrono Trigger was the first JRPG I ever played. I wasn't interested in roleplaying games as a young teenager and also didn't have a Super Nintendo - but at the behest of a friend when we were in middle school (two years after Chrono Trigger released), I downloaded a ROM of the game and played it via emulator on my PC. I immediately fell in love with it, and it is what drove me to play other JRPGs and find that I really did enjoy the genre. Chrono Trigger remains my favorite game of all time - it was an unparalleled experience that I am incredibly thankful my friend introduced me to. I have similar and near equal love for Chrono Cross. As a teenager (I was about 16 when it came to the States), the plot of Cross was too complicated and convoluted for me to understand - but going back and replaying the game as an adult, I realized all of the nuances and references that were cleverly hidden in the game, and the way that the story actually unfolds in a more direct way than it seems at first glance. I'm really sad that we've not had another game in the franchise because I feel the previous two games really pushed the boundaries of storytelling in RPGs at the time of their creation. Also, while I absolutely adore Chrono Trigger's soundtrack - I think Chrono Cross's is the better, more masterful work. Trigger is great, but Cross is Mitsuda's magnum opus.

When I played Trigger for the first time, I fought Gato at the beginning of the game a whole bunch and leveled up a lot 😂 it made getting through the rest of the game pretty easy.

@Indigo_Gaming

5 жыл бұрын

I used to grind until I could buy the Lode Sword from Melchior. Despite the fact that you can get one free not much later in the game.

@FredMaverik

4 жыл бұрын

Plot twist: The game is easy like that even if you don't do anything.

I loved Chrono cross! it was my favorite non-stop final fantasy game of the time

I remember coming across Trigger by sheer chance in 5th or 6th grade. A classmate brought it to school to lend it to another kid who was absent that day. I asked for it and he lent it to me. The game blew my mind and has haunted me since. I know it sounds like an exaggeration but imagine opening up a 10 year old’s mind to time travel and apocalyptic theology in such an engaging and memorable way. Regarding Cross it’s only until now, watching this video, that I realize how convoluted the plot was but I still love it. I would pay anything to get the follow up game we all deserve.

This game was what finally got me reading as a child. With Chrono Trigger, I got excited to learn and explore all of the different endings. It was a great learning experience about cause and effect

I stopped watching when I heard you say my favorite ps1 game was overrated. Thumbs down, unsubscribe. Just kidding. Another great video IG! I actually never knew about RD....i think that it must been around 'that time' when Square started back pedaling on their own ideas. Maybe..

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

+Downward Thrust I'm the worst, right? Thanks man, yeah Radical Dreamers was an obscure experiment that never came stateside. It serves as an interesting primer for Cross, though.

@0011peace

7 жыл бұрын

there is a translated rom of radical dreamers for snes emulators

@TheNobodyNamedDubyaBee

7 жыл бұрын

It didn't help either that RD was released only back then for the SFC Satellaview addon, which never had a western equivalent. In fact, Masato Kato basically disliked how RD turned out that he shot down the idea of bundling that game into the PS port of Chrono Trigger.

@yourfriendwill

3 жыл бұрын

seemed like a bad faith interpretation of chrono cross, as someone who never got to play chrono trigger until roms when I got into PC building years after discovering (and loving) chrono cross. from that perspective, chrono cross never seemed like a true "sequel" as much as an interesting parallel story with a few carry overs, albeit I played them years apart and never got to replay chrono cross again after finishing chrono trigger. time to look into ps1 roms I guess? hands down my favorite game of the generation, imagine it has aged relatively well.

Loved the video man! I was 16 when chrono trigger was released and it was the very first rpg I ever played. So it holds a special place in my video game experience. Great documentary on the chrono series!!

I remember playing Chrono Trigger for the first time back in high school in the DS. I was too young to played it back when it came out (and I never had it in SNES because my parents opted for a PlayStation after our NES) but after discovering it on the DS it quickly became one of my favorite games. Even after all these years it still manages to feel different from almost every other RPG. I I loved everything about it, especially the story and the battle system. I was really disappointed when I looked into Chrono Cross and discovered how it connected to Trigger. I think Crono Trigger really deserves an actual proper sequel. I recently bought I Am Setsuna on the Switch and it definitely takes a lot after Chrono Trigger. It's got a very similar game play style and even game design. it very much reminds me of back when I was playing Chrono Trigger for the first time.

This is simply a fantastic video! It isn't often I find someone that might love Chrono Trigger as much as I do, but here we are. Thank you for making this and for reminding me to replay this masterpiece yet again!

The chrono series, the games that were forgotten in the depths of time. Pun intended

I just discovered your channel, you deserve way more followers!

@Indigo_Gaming

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Stavaas!

I just finished Chrono Trigger. Truly unparalleled in its quality, about to start Cross right now. You made an amazing video btw. I've been looking for another good hardcore gaming channel like Tarmack.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I agree that Trigger is near-perfect considering the technical limitations at the time. I hope you enjoy Cross! I'm flattered to be compared to Tarmack, he's a KZreadr I respect in terms of opinion and quality.

I really disagree with your point about "tenuous connections to Chrono Trigger. The whole idea of why the alternate dimensions exist at all is based on the game interpreting the events of Chrono Trigger as having grander implications than merely rescuing the world. The rifts themselves aren't just tenuous links, they are supposed to be a consequence of youthful naivety. I don't particularly find myself impressed by this, I don't even like Chrono Cross... but I think it should be held accountable for the way it interprets Chrono Trigger, not merely saying it doesn't do anything. Because it does, the whole world is an extension of Chrono Trigger that resonates not just in audio motifs, but just basic concepts the game talks about throughout the duration of the game. It inherits the very themes of the planet Earth as a living entity, the struggle between human beings and technology. It's a very nostalgic game merely in the basis of the way it envisions the environment at its strongest, rather than something that isn't already being subjugated by humans. Regardless, I really enjoyed seeing you talk about these games in a way that I still feel doesn't misrepresent an experience of the series. It's one of the better videos covering the topic that I've seen, I commend you. Non sequitur, your voice sounds fine!

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

(STORY SPOILERS AHEAD) Thanks for your insightful (and civil) response. I always try to separate my own opinions from fact, and story analysis and critique are almost always just opinions rather than objective. My point on the separation of the two game's plots is that you could literally make a couple minor changes and the story of Cross is basically on its own legs. In my opinion, it seems the entire setting and cast of characters were developed before writing BACKWARDS to include plot ties to the original game. Serge's backstory, Lynx many "true" forms and motives, Kid's origins, all of that was retroactively written into the lore to make a connection to the events of Trigger. But honestly, they're really just lore and worldbuilding. Kid looks, acts or feels nothing like anything on Zeal or Schala, Lynx is more confusing than compelling as a character (considering you also play in his body for a third of the game). And there are tons of independent antagonists written into the lore, basically retconning everything that happened in Trigger, and making the entire journey that Crono, Marle, Lucca and the others went through seem like a waste of time. I think Cross would have had a stronger narrative had they not felt compelled to complicate every single location, character and story point with convoluted extrapolations to make it connect to another completely different setting. But those are just my thoughts on the story. Thanks for your take, and I appreciate the compliment on my video. It's good to have a wide swath of opinions out there so people can compare arguments and come up with their own conclusions.

@TheNobodyNamedDubyaBee

7 жыл бұрын

One of the aspects of Chrono Cross that fascinated me in recent times, like I said a number of times elsewhere in YT, is how the game addresses and illustrates the real aftermath and consequences brought by the events of Chrono Trigger. (again possible spoilers below) When you think about it really, really deep enough, CC can make you question your thoughts (and perhaps change your views) about what you did in CT, in the sense that it sorta punishes the main protagonists of CT (and by extension, the players) for what they actually did, that perhaps they didn't really save the world and the future - simply dooming it and made things much worse, that all their time traveling wasn't exactly fun-filled action or whatnot, and that what they did isn't something heroic or to be glorified. (tldr: time-travel can be real bad :-P) Perhaps, CC had told us that Crono, Marle and Lucca weren't the heroes as they seemed to be, where it all boiled down to that scene in CT when the three first saw glimpse of Lavos, that they could've just turned around and let things be. While the message of CC is to challenge fate and reshape and steer one's destiny, it ironically also sends a message of "just stop, let it go, let it be, and let time flow on as it is - or try fixing it yourself to make it waayyyy worse" regarding the premise of CT. I concur that maybe, CC really got ambitious with its development cycle and storyline (as with what happened to Xenogears), that it had much potential to become a better and a more powerful title that would truly outshine CT. (I'll post my thoughts on the video on a separate comment much later.)

The Seiken Densetsu/Mana franchise?

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Otaku_GameFan A fantastic series I would like to cover someday as well.

Chrono Trigger is one of the best games I have ever played and experienced! Many games are fun to "play", however, not many can provide experineces, engagement and emotional attachment like trigger did, truely unique and a masterclass in how to create an RPG game, unforgettable, brilliant...and most of all, timeless.

Chrono Trigger trascends time. It shall never be forgotten. Thank you for making this video.

Every gripe with Chrono Cross is why I love it most. …that said, wonderful video. You really capsulated the franchise as a whole and it's beautyy.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I can see both sides of the coin and know several people who enjoy one over the other. They are both great games, though.

CT is one of the best JRPG's made. CC due to the convoluted storyline made it a little bit too complicated unlike CT which was strait forward time travel adventure, but done right and easier to understand for the general consumers.

Happy I found your stuff. Looking forward to more reviews.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Micah, glad you enjoyed. Interesting animation work on your channel, wish you the best!

Without a doubt, this beautiful title would be my favorite RPG with Final Fantasy V, a game full of charismatic characters, places to discover, and an adventure through which to enter. I lived a beautiful experience when playing that title, how unfortunate not to be born in a time closer to its launch, I was able to enjoy this game currently through my PC, and I really do not regret anything. By the way, this is the best analysis I've seen in my life, I wish you many successes.

I don't get your qualms with Chrono Cross, it was amazing and to me, it tied in amazingly with Chrono trigger

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

To each their own. I'm not the only one with qualms about how the two games tied together, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@gdubbau13

7 жыл бұрын

Hey, I enjoyed the video though. Thanks a bunch!

@joshuaward3646

7 жыл бұрын

Grant Hembree The only thing I hate is that Schala's fate was still ambiguous at the end. Wasn't that the whole point of the game? They are both in my greatest games of all-time list.

@KnownAsKenji

7 жыл бұрын

Story-wise I think it's good, and the 'ton of characters' was well-executed, as well. The combat system however always felt ham-fisted and more frustrating than satisfying to me. Couldn't stand that after a while.

@serge855

7 жыл бұрын

It depends on the ending you get.There are numerous possible endings you can get in just the first play through, let alone new game+. *SPOILER* If you kill Lavos like you would normally kill any other boss then Schala dies as well. On the other hand, if you use the Chrono Cross element after using the correct color sequence of elements then you save her.

8:22: "If [Chrono Cross] would've been called something like 'Dimension Cross', with no allusion of a connection to Trigger, I would have far fewer qualms with it." How about calling it what it actually was: "Xenogears: Island Edition." The entire plot of CC from beginning to end is recycled from Xenogears. All sorts of incredibly specific details, from the intro level where your main character can pick up 200G in savings by rummaging around in their room, to the deeply psychological narrative, to the bizarre way in which the early-game main antagonist is both somehow the main character and the main character's father, to visiting the place where Save Points are manufactured and finding that they're not just a game mechanic, but an in-world means of social control by the bad guys, to the hero's enigmatic love interest turning out to be a reincarnation of a woman from ancient times, created specifically to help bring down an evil omnicidal god, and the reason the hero is special being because long ago, another version of himself came into contact with a mystical power source with a connection to said evil omnicidal god, to That One Level With The Awful Platforming Where You Keep Falling... you get the point. CC is a spiritual sequel to Xenogears far more than it is to Chrono Trigger. Between that and the way it treated what few connections it had to CT with such outright, naked contempt, you can easily understand why this game is almost universally loathed by CT fans. 8:30: "As many have said, Chrono Cross is a mediocre sequel, but a great game on its own merits." I wouldn't even say that. It wasn't even a particularly good game, because I had already played Xenogears and realized partway through my very first playthrough that they were ripping off its plot, and after that, the story became predictable. So, bad story. Then you have the characters, and wow were they ever awful! A massive cast for the sake of having a massive cast, almost none of which have any significance to the narrative at all. What about game mechanics? Their idea for the battle system had potential, but it was far too annoying and fiddly to produce much of anything other than frustration if you tried to do anything creative with it, so in the end it just devolves into yet another iteration of the "PCs lined up over here, monsters lined up over there" slog we've seen in JPRGs ever since the NES days. Chrono Trigger and Xenogears both gave us highly innovative and fun battle systems, while CC... didn't. What about the soundtrack, then? Honestly, it left almost zero impression on me. There are three things I remember clearly: 1) the intro was pretty cool, because of the way it remixed the intro from CT. 2) At some point, if you happened to have the guidebook or look up spoilers online, you can find your way into an otherwise completely missable storyline where there's a rock concert. 3) The final boss theme: THERE WASN'T ONE! (This is particularly insulting after CT gave us not one but two of the greatest final boss themes of all time!) Yes, they made a lame excuse to try to justify it with in-world lore, but... no. Just no. That's a lame excuse and nothing more. All in all, Chrono Cross is a pretty mediocre game on its own merits, and the way it crapped all over the legacy of a far better game only makes it worse.

Subscribed, a very good video, well spoken, and a good script.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it, that's what I was aiming for. Thanks for subscribing!

This game literally defined my childhood. Nothing compares.

In a perfect world, I would love another entry in the series. In reality, please no. Considering I haven't enjoyed a game Square has released in about a decade now, I don't think I want them messing around with a Chrono sequel. And with how well people are receiving any news on the FF7 remake I don't think I want hear the whining that will erupt when they change it into an action game either.

@niklasbergvall9656

7 жыл бұрын

Gricho that's why i don't want another chrono game and if break becomes reality i hope. it's a direct secual to trigger

I want a true sequel to chrono trigger, with the same time mechanics and same battle system with improvements. With a plot maybe something like what Back to the future 2 is to back to the future 1.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

+Nocturne That would be crazy cool. Especially if you interacted with scenes in the original like in BTTF2.

i still randomly play this game to this day. It wasnt my first rpg but its the one that made me fall in love with the genre

Nice work man.

I too felt the same way about Cross. Too many characters, too many plot lines, and none of them ever felt particularly strong. I felt the Trigger references were more for fans, but weren't necessary or relevant to the Cross story. It really could have been its own game title, with no connection to Trigger. But then again, so could many FF titles.

@wilhelmustanujaya2389

7 жыл бұрын

True. As a kid though, I didn't bother trying to recruit all the characters so the 'too many characters' was not an issue on my first playthrough. The plot lines are too many as well, but the main storyline is quite interesting I might say.

@MidnightSpecialist

7 жыл бұрын

I still have the discs, maybe I'll take this approach to the game if I pop the discs in again. I bought the original strategy guide when it came out, and I guess my mentality at the time was I MUST DO IT ALL AT ONCE! Where Chrono Trigger, I had no guide, and I experimented with the scenarios and boss battles multiple times with different character, over multiple play through.

@wilhelmustanujaya2389

7 жыл бұрын

Well I guess I can relate to your experience too. I finished FF6 without a guide and finished ff4 with a guide. I enjoyed FF6 more than FF4 even though both were good games during their respective era. Anyway, hope you enjoy your next playthrough :)

@viktorianos9587

5 жыл бұрын

well ff games never had any conection to each other.each was a new game,so saying that so could some ff games is not exactly relevant.although i agree that 7 and 8 were a lot different that the rest.(i do not consider anything after after 12 an FF game btw...and 12 was barely acceptable as an FF imo)

@user-un8jx8yo7z

5 жыл бұрын

The game looks horrendously ugly to me.

I love CT too, but I find Chrono Cross to be a better and more meaningful game. I really don;t understand people who find CC "disappointing"

@hugofontes5708

7 жыл бұрын

Szczepan Szklarczyk I can only guess it's because they find it too convoluted.

@jonp1952

7 жыл бұрын

I don't particularly like the changes to the battle system. They feel weird to me. I like the game story wise and while I did eventually get somewhat into the battle system, I just don't feel the same about it like I did about Chrono Trigger and even quit playing it after getting quite far.

I was told to play this game after walking with a game freak. I finally gave in and I bought it for the PS and loved it.It was a great game. Beautiful story line. Well made video.

@Indigo_Gaming

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you decided to give it a go.

cross was the first rpg i ever played, i remember clearly i had a bunch of those free playstation disks that had a bunch of demos on it and one had cross's intro animation. I watched it over and over again so curious of this world, and years later i saw the case in a game store and bought it there and then. I loved it so much.

Cross was an ok game on it's own, but for my middle school mind, it was a great disappointment. This is because the fanfiction inside my own head is superior as a follow up to Cross. With Cross, I see many missed opportunities. The biggest of which, is Lavos. You see, the reason why my inner fanfiction is more satisfying is because I give Lavos an actual backstory and motivation. For was Lavos _truly_ evil? Resting peacefully within the planet for millions of years, doing what he can to forward human genetic and cultural progress? My head canon explores this premise. I found it particularly funny how your party goes running around using time gates that Lavos himself is producing, yet he acts as if that's not only allowable, but encouraged. There should be all kinds of butterfly effects that should be ruining your naive quest. The only explanation is that Lavos is cleaning up any time discrepancies. Then we have the Entity, and how it has a particular soft-spot for Lucca. Lucca, the one with the Fire Element (same as Lavos). Lucca, the one who just happens to know how to create time machines and gate keys despite being no more than a teenager. In my head cannon, she in particular becomes connected to Lavos, as I retcon him not as a villain, but as a benevolent alien entity of cosmic scale that's been misunderstood. Lucca (and a few others, including Schala) in particular has been genewhipped to be the culmination of his fostering of the human spirit. For the truth is, Lavos is only at their planet, because he's running from something. An entity that I ended up calling "Malevos" because it's like Lavos except, you know, actually evil (Malevolent Fire Big). It's like Lavos though it doesn't possess quite the same fire properties, or full control of time. Instead, it's more space oriented, and if Lavos is Fire, it's Element would be true darkness. It also goes about corrupting the wills of people (think Mass Effect Indoctrination), for it is through the corruption of will that a cosmic entity can show itself to be a truly evil, messed up God. All Lavos did was crash land on a reptite palace, defend himself against zeal when it got too greedy (when, for decades, and it benevolently TOLERATED being their battery), and of course, 1999, which my head canon addresses later. Thus, the entire quest of Chrono Trigger proves to be fabricated for our heroes through time gates that take them _precisely_ where and when they need to be to "stop" Lavos. It has all been nothing but an elaborate training program to prepare the CT team for an entity that's truly evil. You never, under any circumstance, actually "kill" the real Lavos (also, note that the real "Lavos" during the final fight isn't the big monster trying to kill you, but the harmless satellite creature that's content to be passive and watch, reviving the fake "boss" whenever you kill it, but never attacking you directly). Instead, he just takes the data and reruns it via New Game++ until you have been perfected (yes, even New Game ++ had a plot point inside my then middle schooler head, and the opening to my CT2 would depict our heroes being freakishly strong, until it gets knocked out of them for plot reasons). The thing is, Lavos is guarding something this new entity wants. It's always been Lavos' intent to pass this responsibility to you, his "Children of Time" as it would take a uniquely human spirit to counter the evil that will inevitably arrive in circa 2000~2500 to enslave, pervert, and corrupt all life. Lavos' decimation in 1999 A.D. is merely the Plan B. For I always wondered: "why would Lavos, who cultivated mankind, suddenly kill it off?" Maybe it's a mercy kill. So yes, even there ends up being a reason for Lavos arbitrarily arising in 1999 A.D. I would've revisited that scene from Lavos' point of view, as a *gut wrencher* for Lavos as he enacts a scorched earth policy. Better death for humanity than the enslavement that my new and truly demonic villain would impose. Thus, in my head canon, we'd stick with the same core cast of characters, as they grow older, and more cosmic. Some (like Marle) would become more supporting characters, and new characters from other planets would be introduced, but Lucca, Chrono, and Scala end up ascending to a final fight of time, space, will, and life against a entity of true malevolence, domination, and hatred, after getting lost in time and growing "old". With Lavos retconned as the Obi Wan of my head canon, even Lavos final true death at the hands of my new villain meant something, especially as it's mostly seen in that kawaii little satellite orb thing. Thus, I produced for myself, a more deep and meaningful sequel to Chrono Trigger for myself. Compared to this premise, Cross...really could have nothing I suppose.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Interesting head canon. Although there's a million and one ways you could go about it, I think the idea of following the logic of the original game and coming up with interesting twists and interpretations of those ideas is important. I compared it to Hideo Kojima games. And although those get batshit insane as the series go on, they still follow a sort of logic, and most of what happens IS connected to the main story. My beef with Cross was that 90% of the game isn't relevant to the story of Trigger. It's only later when it picks up a few of the pieces and complicates them upon them to a point of obtuseness. Could have been done better, in my opinion.

@TheTrueHolyDarkness

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly. They don't share anything in terms of themes. Worst still, I can't be attached the the cast at all, given how there are too many filler characters. Cross desperately wants to be its own game that has nothing to do with Trigger at all. And for that reason, it's not a proper sequel. Certainly not the follow up Trigger deserved.

@keyblade43

7 жыл бұрын

TheHolyDarkness Well, Lavos "feeds" the planet, thanks to the frozen flame the humans are able to make more "energy" (technology, for example) and that energy goes to Lavos. Its like when you feed the turkey... But his death is ironic... thanks to the frozen flame the humans were capable to use magic. And without magic... you know the rest.

My biggest problems with Chrono Cross was that it lacked the feeling of nostalgia that a sequel is supposed to have, and that it was inconsistent with Chrono Trigger. Chrono cross made Crono, Lucca, and Marle out to all be little children, when in Chrono Trigger, they were all either young adults, or teenagers who were just starting to become adults. In their culture, the were clearly legally considered to be adults, as Crono was tried as an adult and sentenced to death. Running into them as little kids, no older then 10, always bugged the hell out of me. I still own that game, but I never play it. For me it's like one of those games, that the angry video Game nerd takes into his hidden dungeon and beats with a cat-of-nine-tails. They should never make another game to make it into a trilogy. Instead, they should recall Chrono Cross, and make a TRUE sequel to Chrono Trigger, without Serge, Kid, or Lynx; and with most, if not all of the original cast of characters, with Chrono still as the main hero... but Lucca as the main character this time. The plot for could still be the same as Chrono Cross. Basically, a piece of Lavos survives the final battle in Chrono Trigger and eventually grows to become the "Devourer of Time" or some other entity and intends to take revenge on Chono and his friends. But, here's the thing. Although you can fight Lavos ate what can be perceived at any time for you, in Chrono Trigger, there are really only two different times that They would have fought in the story. As there are only two eras in which you can fight him. One is when he first surfaces to destroy the world, which is in the the year 1999, which is 999 years after the present. The only other way to Fight lavos is from the bucket at the end of time, which likely takes place after Lavos destroyed the world, in the post apocalyptic future of the year 2300. Which would mean that Lavos would not be able to take revenge in his own Era, as all his enemies, would already be long dead. So to take revenge he would have to attack them in what he considers to be the past. So, Time travel would still be the main theme. They could have it that to take it's revenge, Lavos recruits the aid of several past villians, such as Yakra, Azala, Flea, Slash, and Ozzy, possibly Dalton or queen Zeal; and sends them to attack it's enemies and scatters then through out time. So, almost all the original heroes from the first game, Crono, Marle, Magus, and Frog are all misplaced in time. Robo is left alone, because it's just a robot with countless identical units of the same model as it, so how are you really going to find it? Lucca however, given how smart she is, anticipated the possibility of something coming through time to take revenge on her and her friends, so she was already prepared, but couldn't have expected it to happen the way it did, so, she alone was able to avoid it. She then has to travel across time and regather her friends, mostly, seeking to find Chrono, because he's her very best friend and was the leader of their group. Through out the game, she could regather almost all of the original heroes, from the first game, except for Robo, he remains a side character, because it decides that it's needed in the better future that it had been rebuilding, and Marle, Now actually called "Nadia" through out the whole game; because by this time, she and Chrono have a baby and one of them has to return to Guardia castle in their own time to look after it, though I suppose she could be a secret character who will join your team, if the right events are triggered, like Magus, who would still be looking for Schala. And, Frog could now be in his human form and be called "Glenn" through out the whole game and have a completely new list of techs. They could also introduce new members of the team as well, such as have Ayla as a side character as well and have here place on the team filled in by her and Kino's sin or daughter; and mabe add a few mystic members like a naga-ette, ore a lancer, possibly even add in a Reptite member. And, of course, the game would end with Lucca gathering the old heroes and some new ones, with Crono as the last one and facing off against the last of Lavos. it could be called "Chono Quest" or something to that effect.

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Wow, wall of text. Great points here though. I think the vague tie-ins to Trigger COULD have been amazing. If they threw you into a new world but had familiar artifacts, ruins or other things you would run into every once in a while -- like peeks into the world of Trigger that time forgot. Maybe the ruins of Guardia castle, a rusty wreck of the Epoch, a broken down and condemned version of Lucca's lab or something... I think that would have been VERY interesting. They got so little of the feel, character and visuals of Trigger right though. Like you said, the characters as tiny kids (of which they wouldn't even have met eachother yet) wouldn't have known any of the stuff they were talking about (which people have said are just illusions I guess), the Chrono Trigger gang were teenagers, and were able to slay huge monsters and figure out riddles and complex machinery, so had to be physically adept and grown up. I mean no sequel is going to please all, but for me, Cross really wasn't the way to follow up the story of Trigger, and should have been its own universe.

@JoelAdair

7 жыл бұрын

I know, right? The music was good, the battle system was good, the characters were good, story and interaction was good, but the plot... The plot was incompatible with the story and the display of the Chrono Trigger gang sucked... It really should have been a stand alone, because as a sequel, it so utterly fails. it have just been a remake of Radical Dreamers.

@aurus33

6 жыл бұрын

Some of those exact "peeks" into the world of Trigger are actually in chrono cross!! You can visit Lucca's house, there is a broken down Epoch in Viper's manor! The first time I played Chrono Cross i missed all those things but if you play it again trying to find all secrets and try to make sense of the convoluted plot it is actually an amazing story and you start to see the a strong connection to trigger, although a sad one. I don't want to spoil it but the connections are there for you to discover.

@pelgervampireduck

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, I feel chrono cross "betrayed" us chrono trigger fans, it's mean, it's like "so, you liked these characters huh? now see what I do to them!". I liked your idea, maybe it can be done as a fan game?. on rpg maker or something like that, using 16 bits graphics.

@Shiro-ii6nw

6 жыл бұрын

What people still don't get and i see this till this day is that Chrono Cross's main concept is on alternative timelines that are caused by events in the past. Yes most of CT characters are dead in CC but that's only in CC's timelines, when there are multiple timelines it doesn't really matter

Great retrospective on one of my favorite series.

Wow, just hearing the soundtracks for both games (especially Time's Scar & Girl Who Stole the Stars) gives me serious chills & brings tears to my eyes! I have to go listen to CC now. The Chrono soundtracks have always been able to elicit very strong emotions. It's difficult to explain. I love both games, but Cross will always be my all time favorite game. It's got one of my favorite stories (it's up there with LOTR, Harry Potter, & The Dark Tower), and some of my favorite music. Thanks for doing this video! Subscribed! BTW, if you want to hear one of the most beautiful, stirring, haunting arrangements of both CT & CC, search KZread for the CosmoSky Orchestra. They've got a full orchestra, and a very talented choir. I promise that you'll love them!

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad to have helped give you a healthy dose of nostalgia! Thanks for subscribing.

The Chrono series is by far the most astonishing work from Square. I can't believe they never made one more sequel, or even considered a remake for later consoles (after SNES and PSX).

@Indigo_Gaming

6 жыл бұрын

They did do a modified rerelease Chrono Trigger for the Nintendo DS, but it was only a minor update which changed little, mostly interface and writing, but I agree, it's astonishing how little love this franchise has gotten from Square over the years.

I came into Chrono Trigger because an online friend of mine was a big fan of the game and he always recommended it. As it so happened my now brother-in-law had the PSX version which granted is not the better SNES version (I didn't even have a SNES anymore so it wouldn't matter anyway) and this pre-dates the DS version but I never knew the difference. I asked to borrow the game and he lent it to me along with his strategy guide and I played the hell out of it. I worked to achieve the 10 major endings and it took me many many tries to defeat Lavos, even after doing all the quests and everything but I did it and I still love it. Eventually I got my own copy of the PSX version (he might have given it to me as a gift even) and I still play it when I'm in the mood to go back and play it again. I did play Cross but I recall getting to a puzzle and I wasn't paying attention carefully and I recall reading that the solution is random and I wasn't getting much into it anyway so I never went back. I've never gone back to play it but I've tried to understand the lore to see if and how it connected back to Trigger.

@FirelMusic

5 жыл бұрын

I think I know the puzzle you're talking about.. the snake statue puzzle at the manor... Dear Lord you barely started. Please, play it again on an emulator. It's the fond #4 spot in my favorite games of all time... You won't regret playing it.

**grabs CT** Nobody forgot this good boy! Best story in a video game ever! **throws CC in the trash where it belongs and leaves CB in the abyss where it was left** **shrugs**

This game was so iconic in my youth that it is baffling to think of it as "forgot" but... yeah... it pretty much is...

@Indigo_Gaming

7 жыл бұрын

Forgotten at least by its publisher...

@NemesisOwl

7 жыл бұрын

Tragically. With the release of I am Setsuna maybe there is hope though. Great video by the way

How long did it take you to make this video? It is very well story telling. How did you get the pieces of the game

I first discovered the Chrono series with a french video game critic named Hooper, he was a huge fan of the series at the time, the first video he made about this game was like in 2006~ and I was something like 10 years old, he explained that the game was only translated in english and, because I didn't speak a single word of english at the time, wasn't able to play this game. I had to wait until Square Enix released the game on Nintendo DS in 2009 to play it entierly translated in french, and after I first finished the game, I knew it was a masterpiece, I still remember pluging my headphones on my console in my bed at night just to listen the Schala's theme endlessly.

I will wait forever hopeful for a series revival. Both Trigger and Cross left the greatest impact on my childhood.

Chrono Trigger is incredible. It's​ a work of art. A multimedia symphony of perfection. In a thousand years it will be placed next to the mona lisa in terms of prestige.

One of my most favorite JRPG of all time 100%. I really couldn't say enough good things about this series.

Chrono Trigger is tied with FF6 as my favourite game. I end up replaying both of them every 1.5-2 years. I'd really love to even get remasters/remakes of the games like many other Square titles have gotten over the years. I still remember being 7 and finally beating beating Lavos after multiple days because I just wasn't quite understanding his last form. My brother finally caved and gave me a few tips and I finally got to beat him. Then I played over and over again to get different endings. I wish I cared even half as much about Chrono Cross. I tried but I just couldn't get into it, and now my backlog is full of other games I'd rather play/try.

Chrono Trigger may have been the first RPG I ever played, but Chrono Cross is the RPG that holds my heart. I still play Chrono Cross to this day, and my discs for it are still in good shape. Chrono Trigger may have been amazing, but Chrono Cross is beyond words. In my own opinion at any rate.

Thank you for not leaving out Radical Dreamers!

@Indigo_Gaming

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! It's an interesting little experiment, and makes a lot of the choices in Chrono Cross make a bit more sense.

Chross an triggger were 2 of my top 5 fave games to play growing up To see the story expanded would be a blessing