I so wish I’d discovered Hitchens while he was still alive and active. An incredible man with a tremendous intellect, wonderfully articulate, witty and brave. I wish I had half of his gifts.

@mohankang8062

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he had gifts, but he wasn’t brave. He saw a niche to make money on the debate stage, that’s all. He backed the Iraq invasion as a contrarian. Then went against God to keep relevant with the times we live in, writing books to many who find it hard to think with rationale. Yes, an intelligent man, but all the evidence suggesting that one can possess intelligibility and still be a fool to one’s ego.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

@Logiconfire

2 жыл бұрын

The messianic ego of an alcoholic.

@moharproductions

Жыл бұрын

@@mohankang8062 politics was not is thing at all. HIs debating skills are untouched though.

@ShoestringRacer

Жыл бұрын

@@mohankang8062lol

His claim about religious people being more charitable is based on certain studies looking at what they call “charitable giving”. Most of these studies include donations (etc) to their church during services and such like. This is not a charitable donation as it’s not necessarily going to a charity. Furthermore, some of that money s going to pay for the hiding and moving round of sex offenders within various churches.

@petercollins7730

2 жыл бұрын

If you just count what would be classed as "charitable" by the IRS, the standard that anyone who isn't a god-botherer has to meet, christian churches spend an average of 4% of their annual budget on charity. The figure for charitable giving by the religious includes the cost of the building, the musical groups that perform (choirs and such), usually some office personnel to keep track of members, the man (or woman) who lectures every week on Sunday, a house and vehicle for the lecturer, most times facilities to cook and serve meals to members, and the supplies for those meals, among other things. Want to see a bible-thumper lose their mind? Ask them if other groups, not religious, should be considered charities if they do the same things. For example, the Hells Angels have weekly services, with music, fellowship, often lectures on salient subjects; they have meals and events; they provide ceremonies for members, like weddings and funerals; and they do a little bit of charity work- an annual toy run, for instance. Now, why is it that they are not a charity? Back in the 70s, the catholic church started a breakfast program for poor children, before school breakfasts were common. They fed about 1100 children every day. The Black Panthers had a breakfast program for children before school. They fed about 8000 children per day. Tell me who is the charitable group here, and who could never get registered with the IRS.

@Heathen.Deity.

2 жыл бұрын

@@petercollins7730 spot on 👍🏼

@George.Andrews.

Жыл бұрын

@@petercollins7730 the gangs are just sweeping up their own mess in many cases. A mess made by the drugs they peddle. While for the church and the gangs it's no doubt a recruitment drive.

@petercollins7730

Жыл бұрын

@@George.Andrews. Agreed; providing charity, especially when it is lacking from civil authorities, is a useful and successful recruiting tool. Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups do enormous amounts of good works - feeding programs, schools, support of widows and the elderly. Of course, they use that to recruit people to carry bombs onto school busses and blow up their enemies' children. In Haiti, the first medical assistance to arrive was from MSF - Doctors Without Borders. Next were doctors and medical teams from the Salvation Army. MSF spends 100% of the money in country providing actual medical services; the Sally spends 63% on medical services and the rest on outreach and proselytizing. I think the late Christopher Hitchens summed it up perfectly - Religion poisons everything. Even the charity that it does.

I simply love this erudite man. There are a few like him today but none are as profound and articulate as he was.

@2fast2block

2 жыл бұрын

No, there are many losers around that believe in the absurd, you being one of many. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ2B09yHj7y5iLg.html The odds are NOT there. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWWTraePkabfkaQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4ttycOwqr2yo84.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/lpiV07WupNebkdo.html

@wolfthequarrelsome504

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. As for hitchens, he had no clue.

The world is poorer without this man (Hitchens) in it.

@rep3e4

2 жыл бұрын

Doubt that very much

@tridevkotwal2169

Жыл бұрын

Indeed sir just look what is happening around Taliban took over .You have religious conversions going open in England ,Mexico is getting converted ...it's gonna be a war soon.And these so called moderate religious being they are gonna back stab first.

@George.Andrews.

Жыл бұрын

@@rep3e4 It most definitely is.

@wolfthequarrelsome504

Жыл бұрын

What charity did he have with his "people of non belief"?

@yt.personal.identification

Жыл бұрын

​@@wolfthequarrelsome504 2:46

It is so beautiful how christopher hitchens answered that question. Almost like fine art.

@taroman7100

2 жыл бұрын

He's a keen listener.

@2fast2block

2 жыл бұрын

@@taroman7100 no, he's a loser as I clearly showed and you ignored.

@brettclark2420

2 жыл бұрын

Marxism is such fine art that it has never worked lmao

@AFMMarcelD

2 жыл бұрын

@@brettclark2420 Well maybe so, but please name me one single great man in history that has always been right in making assertions or decisions throughout their lives? Answer = None.

@cnault3244

2 жыл бұрын

@@2fast2block Why did you leave out the Bible definition of faith? Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Using the Bible's definition of faith, it makes just as much sense to believe pixies, leprechauns, Odin, Zeus, Brahma, Anubis, etc exist because you have faith they exist. Faith is a terrible reason to believe something.

This was the argument made by some in the film Spotlight. "These are good people, they do good work" Yeah but they are allowing kids to be raped. Charity is never an excuse for evil.

A *Powerful* Hitchslap here! Christopher Hitchens delivering the knock-out blow to religious *HYPOCRISY!*

such an elegant and cogent response hitchens gave.

He wasn't only a wordsmith, he also had a talent for skipping the tricky parts of so-called "arguments", and getting to the bottom of it straight away. Instead of systematically destroying the simplistic argument that he is confronted with, and picking it apart piece by piece, (which he would be very capable of doing), he destroys the ENTIRE argument in one blow.

@SleepyPenguin-8og

20 күн бұрын

Perfectly put.

My answer is that without religion or “god”, good, caring people do good anyway and always will. The Red cross, Doctors without Borders, Fara and many other charities do amazing work and dont claim to “know go” or “do his work”.

@randombutspecific

2 жыл бұрын

Right, and the guy ignored that in the US the majority is religious, and religion is still a big part of the social fabric. So it’s not surprising that the biggest charitable organisation.

@truerealrationalist

Жыл бұрын

Do you realize that many of the same some charities that don't have religious affiliations now (Red Cross, for example) were founded by religious adherents?

Not enough debates between Hitch and evangelicals.

@LifeOfRy

Жыл бұрын

They likely ran scared.

WITHOUT THE FEAR OF DEATH....THERE WOULD BE NO RELIGION AT ALL.

@TheGwimWeaper

2 жыл бұрын

Religion is fear. People once prayed the sum would rise after it sets. Some unscrupulous men asaw this and realised they could make money from it. so it began

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

@EzraB123

Жыл бұрын

That's entirely false, considering many religions have either no afterlife or a very underdeveloped concept of it, such as Judaism, Hinduism, Shinto, Buddhism, Jainism, Yazidism, etc. Just because evangelicals and Muslims are obsessed with the afterlife doesn't mean all religions are.

@simongross3122

Жыл бұрын

Without belief in Satan there would be no Christianity. Other religions seem to get on fine without the devil.

There's a song in Australia called 'Cheap Wine' by Cold Chisel. My favourite line goes: "I don't mind taking charity, from those I despise."

At the end of the day, help that is transactional is not a good kind of help. Because it’s not being done for the purpose of assisting another human being, it’s been done as a purpose of using the assistance of another human being to achieve another more subtle outcome which is your actual intention. And that is the problem. If I donate money or help somebody, I do it because they are in need of assistance and I want to contribute, I don’t use it as some kind of angle to get in there to explain to them why I believe there is no God

@shitholeworld

2 жыл бұрын

That's because you are an atheist, and your views are stupid.

@ThisCharmingMan1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@shitholeworld Wow, such a clever response; I don’t know how you came up with such an intelligent retort…

@shitholeworld

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThisCharmingMan1984 Just the truth being spoken.

@koumei1709

2 жыл бұрын

@@shitholeworld . Ok let me say truth. What you say reflects your own mind. So your first sentence reflect who you are

@JustDaniel6764

2 жыл бұрын

@@shitholeworld Why are you on nearly every Hitchens video? You’re not going to convert anyone here! We’ve all heard Hitchens,Fry and Dawkins destroy your beliefs that stem form the infancy of man.

There are times when the voice of sanity doesn’t always come from the masses.

I have, personally, flip-flopped between notions of God, but still enjoy seeing Hitchens in his peek. Even if I was a full-flight Christian, I'd LOVE to see full throated debate between faith and non-faith groups. There is nowhere near enough of this in our current society.

What a loss to humanity this exceptional man was

Ive watched TBN recently because my mother follows it. Matt and Laurie Couch have become incredibily wealthy expanding their Christian propaganda by satellite. It's like a private club. You pay up, you get Jesus and in on the riches while in the meantime the Crouches treat themselves to travel in all the finest cities in the world. I never see them sitting in the middle of a slum in India, nor a hurricane ravaged city. I do, however, find them sitting atop their luxury ranch in Colorado with breathtaking scenery purchased for a mere fifteen mil. They had the nerve to stroll through an area near where they were staying. It was hit by tornado which destroyed blocks of homes but they only offerred one man they encountered a "little money" then went on their way praising his bravery!!

@BubblesPothowari

2 жыл бұрын

So truly described...... As seen from India

@marysueeasteregg

11 ай бұрын

It's hypocritical, of course, but TV evangelists are hardly representative of Christians in general.

As a Christian (I am) when you give you are to give in a humble manner. You are not to declare it. Many Christian organizations today want to exclaim their giving and riches. That is wrong. Hitchens has a valid point.

@chrisdurant4627

2 жыл бұрын

Read 2,nd kings, cha,6,v28-29- God.made.the.jew.eat.there own children,, boiled, alive,???

@chrisdurant4627

2 жыл бұрын

Romans, cha 11v 33-36 so powerfull

@alanrogs3990

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisdurant4627 Did you read the chapter?

@vodkaboy

Жыл бұрын

@@alanrogs3990 not asking for anything, and giving without questions makes these initiatives more acceptable in my opinion. but charity shouldn't replace role of society and gouvernement to help the poorer and more fragile.

@alanrogs3990

Жыл бұрын

@@vodkaboy It's too late to try and do that now anyway. But we (In America) were better off with the way hospitals were 50 years ago.

A lot of people who don't believe in a god also do great things for their fellow human. It depends on the person and not an organization.

@donniefleming9914

7 ай бұрын

Good point...I have no interest in some dude watching over what I do in life.I help people daily,especially the elderly,because they need it.And I have no need to let anyone know.Strange people these religious fanatics are.What is the cross wearing all about?To let people know you're in the same cult as others?

Hitchens nailed it again. What a brilliant mind he was!

It's difficult to come to terms with the fact that that rabbi is not Brian Green.

He concluded with a blast !!!

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.

What a great man.

And from where do they get their money in the first place in order to donate it?

I miss Hitchens.

The argument that because of millions of people believe, then it’s true. Does that mean that because mcdonalds sells billions of burgers a day, they’re healthy food???

Christopher hitchens was and it's my favorite atheist. I'm somewhere in-between (something like agnostic) and find some of the most beautiful ideas and thoughts from both sides. The one thing both sides fails to recognize during these debates. Is that most of the arguments are based off generalizations of said argument. Man I wish I could put hitchens, sowell and Jordan Peterson in a room and talk with them.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

I would donate too if the group I hung out with every week demanded that everyone give money in front of everyone else. Totalitarian governments and cults utilize that method, too. It's called peer pressure. That being said, it's not a BAD peer pressure- if those charities were actually decent. Which many of them are not.

incredible.

I don't do religion or charity...there!

Please share your views on America being being driven to follow Christianity beliefs right now? God gave us “free will”! Why are Christian’s playing GOD and feel this is Okay?

They do it because they think someone is watching what they do. Nothing more.

Bruh, what's up with all the bots on here? I guess, even in death, Hitch still manages to rattle those in zealous opposition to reason 😂

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

You also see all that behavior in cults.

The most morally corrupt and hypocritical people I have met in my life have been deeply religious. I have at times helped my fellow humans and animals in need, not because of appeasing some God but it's in my nature to do so.

@samulikarjalainen6107

26 күн бұрын

I have had the same experience. I mean even the ones who seem to live according to teachings of the New Testament in many cases end up being exposed as pharisees.

Please share my two brief videos with other people. Thank you!

Charity is always a weak answer; if a charity is doing anything that means nothing meaningful is being done; just bandaids and nothing more.

...so we have heard .... ........

@dorkception2012

Жыл бұрын

Are you on medication?

it was a big loss when he died.

He was right on all points

I'm a bit split here. First of all, while charity on the sole basis of altruism rather than religious motives might be more valuable in moral terms, still, these religious aid programmes are in fact providing help to the needy. That has to, at least, be given some credit. Secondly, while I am an atheist myself and on the side of Hitchens, I feel it does place a burden on the secular humanist community to "walk the talk", and counter. He mentions their Haiti fund, which is great, but there should be more of it. I don't know the numbers, perhaps they are already in our favor, and if so that's great. B)

@ThisCharmingMan1984

2 жыл бұрын

I think his main point, about religious-based charities, is that they often come with conditions; such as proselytising the teaching of the religion to vulnerable people, who have been/are suffering, as a way to swell the ranks of their church, rather than it being merely a form of selfless altruism, that was brought on by their religious views. Obviously not every person, or charity, only helps people in order to convert them to their faith; but, if you notice, it was the rabbi who brought up the whole idea of religious institutions somehow being morally superior, because they do the most charitable work. Whereas Christopher simply pointed out that the motives, for their charitable behaviour, are often more to do with conversion, than out of some sense of deep religious morality; so he stated how it was possible to be moral, and help your fellow humans in need, without the strings that religious organisations often attach to their good deeds, all while they pretend to do them simply out of goodness of their hearts/because of their faith- which is what the rabbi tried to pull, by lauding religious charitable work, without being honest about the motive that often lies behind much of that work: converting desperate, and vulnerable people to their religion. All the best.

@NxDoyle

2 жыл бұрын

Charitable works cannot and must not be used to 1) mitigate the horrors caused by religion and 2) try and convert people.

@fredchester921

2 жыл бұрын

@Adam The folks who are suffering will not get any aid from these Christian Charity groups in country unless they agree (by coercion) that they convert or agree to become part of the TV advertisement for these Christian groups, so the groups can host commercials and funnel more tax-exempt cash to their pockets. I would really like to know how many billions of dollars go to the CEOs of these groups, and what tiny percent goes to people in need. I imaging the ratio is something on the order of 95:1.

@DaveVelo1

2 жыл бұрын

Getting handouts from mega religious organizations is analogous to Trump tossing paper towels out to a crowd of Puerto Ricans for a photo op.

@colewood3297

2 жыл бұрын

In terms of secular charities, the 2 that immediately come to mind are UNICEF, the largest provider of childhood vaccines in the world; & MSF which provides medical care to the world's poorest, often in very dangerous conditions

This clip exemplifies one aspect of Hitchens that I miss dearly: His skewering any blindness and/or intellectual dishonesty about Theists go on about in conveniently overlooking their proselytizing efforts in the name of charity. Seriously, how hard is it to admit that, YES, there are efforts to convert peoples around the globe to Christianity WHILE feeding the poor, offering medical assistance, raising $$$ for the needy? Which is also where Hitchens went too far in his debates, IIRC. He would ram home a point ( as in this video ) to seemingly just score a debate point while not giving credit where it's due, i.e. the Church worldwide doing a lot of good / walking the walk. Either way, as a Theist/Believer, everyone, whether believing in God or not, ought to be humble and self-aware enough to admit to their actions and motivations when simply asked as in a debate. Also, how difficult is it to view Christians proselytizing as similar to anyone knocking on your door for a political candidate or social cause? They want you to AGREE with them. Why? Because they believe they are right or have an "answer" for the world or THE person to reallllly make a change. "You sound read Christopher Hitchens' book....". Not too different than Christians selling The Gospel to you.

Wow, that was satisfying.

All gods are fiction.

@2fast2block

2 жыл бұрын

You are a loser like Hitch was. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ2B09yHj7y5iLg.html The odds are NOT there. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWWTraePkabfkaQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4ttycOwqr2yo84.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/lpiV07WupNebkdo.html

@valdavis7461

2 жыл бұрын

@@2fast2block bot

@2fast2block

2 жыл бұрын

@@valdavis7461 that did nothing to get around the evidence I gave but it does show how you ignore it because you're a loser.

. question why it is to axplain,

Really wish I could meet more people who want to volunteer and do good work without the religious aspect of it. Why does it really take God to make people want to help others? I don’t feel that way. I want to do good for people. I want to help right wrongs and also offer what I have to make other peoples’ lives better. I don’t care about God or religion.

@chrissmith9167

Жыл бұрын

Then do it without being religious you dork. If all that stops from helping people is that’d you’d have to stand next to icky Christian’s then clearly you desire to do good is outweighed by your distaste for religion and you’ll often end up helping down trodden religion if you do charity work.

Why is giving to charity Nobel?

@kevinbergin9971

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they could give it to me.

...(gold) ...ingot we trust..$

Religious Charity the term itself is crystal clear, the reason why most people trust and give their money to such Christian organizations worldwide is due to the only reason that these funds are best handled by these organizations properly compared to the non religious or NGOs world wide. Most of the funds are to be used for service to humanity in the name of Jesus Christ which is apt to the statement of purpose and is legal in whichever part of the world they are allowed to operate. Non Christian organizations are doing the same worldwide. It's now upto the Atheists, liberals, humanists, rationalists now to pick up their place in humanity by doing such selfless service in the way that suits their goals of creating a society devoid of God and Godlessness. Sitting in a studio 🎙️and working through freedom of expression permitted by law alone isn't enough.. The results of such tall talks should be on board. Wake up, walk 👣👣👣 the tall talks

I seriously doubt what the man is saying about religious people being more helpful. Not most of the ones I've known.

The problem with debates like these is that you have two 'fairly' intelligent people but television really wrecks the debate. In print its so much better because at least they think more before they speak. BOTH men talked about three or four different things. 1. The argument against Hitchens was that "faith does nothing". 2. The other guy points out that it does. End. This is proven because Hitchens then admits it. 3. Even if its proselytizing thats coming from faith which we all just admitted Hitchens was wrong about when he says it 'means nothing'. The next argument is about christian charity and thats a more in depth question and I'd suggest its NOT the person DONATING to a charity's fault IF that charity is using the money to proselytize. In some ways its accepted, in others not, in other words thats a whole other argument that is barely touched on. So in the end what you get are clapping points. And the problem with that is that IF we lived in a democracy we'd be talking about religion in schools, we'd be talking about tax breaks for churches and what they use them for, and MAKING DECISIONS. But we aren't, we essentially end only getting to clap for one guy or another and ALL that information is basically useless except for making conversation at a dinner party or something.

So if he made statements like: "There are a lot of gray areas here related to religion and I for one don't see the need." He'd have had to get a real job.

Evangelism should be outlawed in America.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

@simongross3122

Жыл бұрын

That will never happen. The official motto of the USA is "In God we Trust". Even your money is evangelistic.

..if there was no god, .what would you expect..

..why do you need to explain ...we know..

Christianity ✝️ is The Truth the Message of Jesus is Love ❤️ and Peace 🕊️

He has more comments on this during this debate, close to this anwser actually. A shame they did not include this - it envolved a kick in the balls to the mormons - thats always fun

If the Catholic Church told Haitians after the quake "God has spoken" it is mean and I heard of a Muslim local religious leader telling his people that their earthquake was due to their sinfulness. It could encourage thoughts such as "we had better get rid of the homos lest God punish us". Instead religious leaders should explain to the victims that it is not their fault, it is geology, and even that the same vulcanism which created Quisqueya (Hispaniola) also causes earthquakes, and that there are global zones for vulcanism which cannot reasonably be said to match the moral qualities of those living there. Haiti is vulnerable to superstition from Vodou already without adding to it. Jesus clearly said that the tower of Siloam did not fall on the eighteen men because they were more wicked than everyone else. I think that religion does inspire many aid workers and give them courage to go many places I would avoid. The degree of proselytization must vary I expect, some not more that the USA putting its flag on a donated 100 pound sack of rice, or the UN doing the same, or Cuba. Perhaps though, as Hitchens believes, it is sometimes excessive, if often well-intentioned. I don't really know, but one can research the agencies one donates to.

No one, and I mean no one lol can out debate the one, the only hitchy baby lol

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

How many of u know that religioisty is positively correlated to higher giving even to secular organisations....

I bet Christopher doesn't think tge way he does now. Hell is not a very nice place.

@AuroraLeujene

Жыл бұрын

It always cracks me up seeing religious people kinda cheering and saying "gottcha!" that someone actually died. And supposedly went to hell and eternal damnation in their own head. it isnt reality, but just the idea that some of you guys actually think this about other people (strangers even) is digusting, and is one the reasons im happy im out of this toxicity. Belief through fear, and cowarding behind religion is not healthy.

@Mayan_88694

Жыл бұрын

There is no hell to begin with, your mythical Bronze Age book has been disproven countless times. 🤡🤡🤡🤡

@vondas1480

8 ай бұрын

Are you sure? Find a rope and go make sure. Don’t worry no one will miss you over here ☺️

Dont bother debating The Hitch.

Hitchens isn't even attacking the point, this guy said religion makes a difference and encourages good behaviour, and Hitchens says making that difference doesn't mean he's real and doesn't mean the behaviour is motivated by goodness. These are in no way exclusive, and it doesn't matter. If religious people volunteer more, who cares if the motivations are to convert people or to practise faith. He says 'don't tell me that's good' like okay so we should never give to the needy unless our motivations are pure and holy? How is he so amazing that when he gives its pure and holy and selfless but if Christians give its proselytizing. Everyone gives for their own reasons, from faith to guilt alleviation to narcissist grandiosity. You can't divide those camps into religious and non-religious and claim one is 'wicked'. I don't know why people think he is so smart.

YES !!! NO DUH !!! Self-help is what I prefer.

..the hive a hidden hhh. ..

Religion is sick 😫

American People, give more to charity vote more... because they don’t want to THINK for themselves. Mercians Need and Want a Authoritarian Leader because of that... SAD

US Christians are more charitable than atheists ... but only if you count the money they give to maintain their clubhouse, I mean, church. Yes, churches do some truly charitable work (eg, feeding the homeless), some more than others. But by their own accounting, such charity is a tiny fraction of what they take in. Most of it is spent on activities that anyone not in that religion thinks is helpful at all.

Perhaps religious charity is just proselytizing. Secular charity is...significantly less than religious charity.

What nonsense Chris used to talk! “ soon if I do you a favour I will be peaching! “ What tripe! He lived in an evil world where nobody was good! What evil was this???

Hitchens is telling truth all charity money goes to missionary pocket 😅

Hitchens, you are my god on this Earth.

India suffers from this evangelism as well. They target tribals.

Well if it is proselytizing, there people who really need it. Not everybody has the oppeotunies you do.🥺

its wrong to lie to people about the iraq war too.

We are unfortanatly.of.a.sinfull nature,, .this.can make one.feel unhappy,,.its.sin in us,,,.our.rightuose ness is.like.a.period.of.menstuation, dirty rags,,,

talk like a commoner me lord lol lol lol

pubg

..PS ..do you have a job .???? . ..other than..

I pray to the “nonexistent” God that when I pass I don’t wake up where this guy is

Long live communism and freedom

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

@jasonh.8754

Жыл бұрын

Um, those too are mutually exclusive. Communism is precisely the LACK of freedom.

@dodumichalcevski

Жыл бұрын

communism AND freedom ? how did you came to that conclusion ... that you can have both ?

Christopher wàs a bit of an atheist fundamentalist..

Poetry

@2fast2block

2 жыл бұрын

Absurdity. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ2B09yHj7y5iLg.html The odds are NOT there. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWWTraePkabfkaQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4ttycOwqr2yo84.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/lpiV07WupNebkdo.html

And the award for the best portrayal of Scrooge goes to.... 🎉🎉CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS🎉🎉

@snoopredictions

11 ай бұрын

Wow you ARE dumb

One of the weaker attempts by Hitchen's I've seen to cast aspersions on religion.

@beetogarcia9983

2 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t have to. Religion does it to itself

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6upz9pscsaxfpM.html - I’d love to know your thoughts on this

Hitchens is a brilliant man, and I respect his political commentary. But his points about religion using charity solely to get coverts is disingenuous. Yes, there are churches that misuse charity. But he neglects the constant refrain of the Christian's duty to serve his fellow man and be his brother's keeper. Secular governments or philosophy to my knowledge have never promoted that. Sunday services are designed to constantly remind the members what kind of person they are suppose to become and behave as, i.e., Christ. That is changing the person from the inside out, unlike government or secular organizations that strive to change only the external environment to change people. Furthermore, Hitchen's ignores secular movements and governments like Communism without religion that commit the same and far greater abuses than (Except for Islam) than Christianity ever did. Look at how weapons, money, and building projects were used by Russia and China to hook third world nations into their orbit, eventually making them in debt to them. I know Hitchen's has no love for Communism, but he fails to see that any secular society or government without God, particularly Christian ethos (Not churches per se, but the core teachings of Christ) always devolve into man making man into a god as evidence by every statue, banner, and t-shirt (Che) as the fearless leader to be literally worship as Big Brother. Whether one believes Christ actually existed or not, (I believe He did and still does) He represents the most ideal moral objective to live by than any mortal man, such as Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, Castro, Che, and others to uphold. Man is always wired to worship something or someone, even themselves and their own intellect conclusions. Why not Christ (Not talking about churches or organized religion) instead of Nietzsche?

@rembrandt972ify

2 жыл бұрын

No one alive today can say for certain what Jesus did or did not do, said or did not say. The character of Jesus as he is portrayed in the Gospels was an evil lying bastard. At least his bloodthirsty father would quit punishing you once your great grandchildren were dead. Jesus, not so much.

Praise God for those who do share the gospel. It's not about doing good it's about knowing who is good and trusting in Him alone.

@alanrogs3990

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, share and move on. If they have no interest then that's your answer, if they do have interest then that is also your answer.

Hitch's take on Christian charity is so far off the mark it's disturbing. He is simply blind.

@ryanname2503

2 жыл бұрын

No it isn't, He's spot on, they use these tragedies as a neans ti convert vulnerable people ti their religion because" look how kind we are"

@julianmarsh1378

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanname2503 I know way too many Christians to buy into this line of b.s.

Given the fragility of our earthly lives it is good to remember that "God so loved the world that he sent his one and only beloved Son into the world, not to judge the world, but rather that the world may be saved through him". Jesus is God the Son, one person of the Holy Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). If we believe Jesus is the "Son of God" who died on the cross for our sins and rose again, Jesus said we would be saved .... "truly truly I say to you whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me HAS eternal life, he does not come into judgement but HAS passed from death to life".The question we all need to ask ourselves is who is Jesus Christ ... if he truly is God just like he said he is then believing in him is the most important thing we can ever do. We should all find Jesus, God's only Son, while we can. God bless.

@conors4430

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but if only there was any good reason to believe, the book says you should believe in the book and the characters in the book, but why should we. That is the problem

@friendyadvice2238

2 жыл бұрын

@@conors4430 what evidence would you require to believe in Christ??? Imagine Jesus appeared just before you and performed an amazing miracle, and you were the only witness. When you told somebody else they wouldn't believe you without proof. But you witnessed it with your own eyes, but they still didn't believe you. This is what happened to the Apostles in the new testament. Some believed their eye witness accounts and some people didn't. This is where we are today. Jesus himself said not all would believe. One day we will all find out. I just want to feel I tried my best to help people find Christ. But each individual needs to make their own decision on this, but also needs to accept the ultimate consequences of that choice.

@conors4430

2 жыл бұрын

@@friendyadvice2238 it’s probably not good to threaten people

@shitholeworld

2 жыл бұрын

@@conors4430 He didn't threaten you, snowflake. Be warned, famine, wars, plagues and much worse approach. You idiots who disbelieve will find out the truth eventually. The testimony of your fellow humans should be enough, but you prefer to believe paid shills for Satan like Hitchens. Your loss.

@lorenzobianchini4415

2 жыл бұрын

@@shitholeworld What is it about you who sees fit to insult another human being with arrogance and threats. My advice to you is move on.Christians such as you see yourself to be I consider repellent and ultimately deluded in your ignorance

Always makes me laugh when atheists make moral judgements, I thought we can but dance to our DNA?

@koenigkorczak

2 жыл бұрын

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@Edvinas97

2 жыл бұрын

???

Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ2B09yHj7y5iLg.html The odds are NOT there. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWWTraePkabfkaQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4ttycOwqr2yo84.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/lpiV07WupNebkdo.html

@2fast2block

2 жыл бұрын

@dudidú "So, you say science can't determine how universe was created..." Actually, I showed science can and does determine how creation happened...supernaturally. Allah is fake. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIF-tNWdaLbYmLg.html Since that fake god and religion has no foundation, it stole from the bible.

@hawaiiusa6147

2 жыл бұрын

You can ramble on and post as many links as you like but the reality is that your religion is stupid and evil. Stick Jesus up your ass and try experiencing reality as it really is, instead of letting yourself to be brainwashed by disgusting and sinister ideas.

@2fast2block

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawaiiusa6147 it's your A$$ that will suffer and your loser tough talk will not change it. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Psalms 14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." kzread.info/dash/bejne/godpxNeAnqu8ito.html

@rembrandt972ify

2 жыл бұрын

@@2fast2block If even a fool can figure it out, why can't you?

@2fast2block

2 жыл бұрын

@@rembrandt972ify oh, loser, all you did is forgot the evidence to back you up. It's a common trait all you losers have.

For atheists Christopher Hitchens is like Darwin. It does not get better than this.

@chrisrob7276

Жыл бұрын

WTF Darwin was a scientist and a theist, so nothing like Hitchens

@chandrakanth3875

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisrob7276 If you study clearly you may know at the end of days of this life even Darwin became deist and he was not a theist.

Hello 911 I would like report an emotional damage l!! 😂😂 religion is ridiculous.. they come saying it’s for charity and in return ask us to convert to their faith. Well sir, that’s not charity that’s solicitation.