I think keeping the whole match uncut is the best way. The viewer can relate more to what happens when he has the whole picture.

@slydiogenes8796

4 ай бұрын

i mean we dont really need to see bike vs aff 4-0

@MelGibson2727

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, 6:40 the game is over and it shows it was a 14:52 long game so we missed 8 minutes of it, makes about as much sense as watching Lord of the Rings and skipping more than half of it from random places, so you can only show the battles scenes, I like the battle scenes but the how and why is all missing.... please make a normal version and rename this highlights!

i definitely prefer it unedited

@MelGibson2727

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. second match starts and they are both in the middle with upgrades already?!?! this is just wrong, it's ruining my whole watching experience!

Sybert I watch all you Kane’s watch and CC3 content, I don’t really like this format. I like to see the whole game bro it makes it fun to see the entire thing unfold Please go back

Sybert, please keep the uncut format. This is so stressful to watch and it makes me so confused 😟 Anyway, I love your videos and I want to say thank you!!! ❤

Need uncut version

i usually have this run in the background and look over at the other screen when it sounds interesting so i don't mind the longer unedited format. the only issue i have with "highlight only" edits is that it can be quite jarring when the cuts happen if it's not obvious.

Not sure about the edited format, feels like the units come out of nowhere. I usually really like the slow moments when you do small talk or give some info about the map or the players. Either way i love you content.

Leaving it uncut is much better, I feel like a lot of context gets missed when it skips around like this.

I think its fair if you want to try new things considering how long youve been at this, but personally I dont think this is the right way to go about it - to me, every part of the match is as important as the rest, and by removing parts of it here and there it not only disrupts the pacing and makes it harder to follow, but also makes it much more difficult to get immersed in the matches and feel any sense of tension or excitement when they are shortened down and so much more rapid fire its as if you were reading a book, but only read one or two lines on every page - much harder to get invested Also, I feel that the "quiet" moments are quite valuable, in any form of sport or media as a whole - they give the viewer a moment to breath, speculate and observe, and provide an opportunity to not only build a sense of tension, but also allow the caster to chime in and provide some commentary beyond just describing what is happening on the screen, letting some of their personality shine through or imparting knowledge, or whatever it may be the loss of much of this "quiet" time would be the loss of many of the opportunities for you to be able to express yourself in these videos, and i think for many of us that would definitely be a downgrade, since atleast personally, i always enjoy listening to what you have to say - whether that be game knowledge, information about the players, or even just jokes or random small talk at the end of the day, we're all here for c&c and sybert - i dont think having less of either of these things in a given video is what many of us want all that being said though, as i said youve been doing this for so long so i really feel you should be allowed to experiment and try new stuff, so if you really are interested in this format, you can keep it up and maybe find a balance that perhaps many of us can still enjoy. if nothing else, uploading the original unedited cut as a separate video for those of us who prefer that format would surely please both parties whilst still allowing you the ability to try new formats as you wish in separate uploads regardless, love your content sybert, and thanks for giving us c&c fans so much material to watch and enjoy, regardless of the format it may take 👋

No please don't edit or cut the videos. We all want the unedited version.

As for me I would like to see how all things rolling like a snowball. Anyway thank you for the effort.

Prefer the unedited version, I like watching how things progress in the early game.

Though I appreciate the highlighted cut here, it's a bit challenging to follow how the matches progress. Still entertaining casting, Sybert!

The thing with rts game matches is that they needed context on how things got to the point they are, so when 2 minutes in and then suddenly mcv got destroyed leaves me confused of what was just happened. If you wanna make highlight edit style i suggest something like big play of different matches compilation, for example: mothership call base wipe, heroic harvester

I'm glad I'm not the only one who'd rather see the entire replay without weird 2min jumpcuts...

Uncut version please sybert, I don't know if you've skipped or not half the time and I feel I've missed something.

Holyshit :D Bikerushs Nod aggression is SO MUCH FUN to watch! LOVE that man!

I thought the editing style was an april fool's joke, but it came out on the second of april. At the very least, there has to be some transition or context given for the situations that are shown. I don't know what state the game is in, I can't take all the information in and evaluate what is happening in the clip. Which of the players is in the economically better position at this very moment, are there reinforcements coming, are they attacking, retreating, defending, is this a good army for the current state of the game? Too many questions that are relevant to forming a more overall picture of what is being shown. It's not impossible to answer these questions, but it takes time and focus.

please leave the videos unedited

One day after Easter: Christmas comes super duper early this year 😂

Watch the whole match is the best way to enjoy this game

I agree with the people that prefer to have the matches be un-edited. Watching highlights only makes it kinda hard to follow since we viewers lose so much context and buildup to the engagements that happen in a match. We also don't really get a reason to care about the matches because there isn't really any investment in the actions taken in the matches because all we see are the important snippets. It isn't unwatchable, I think it would require some more refining, because in this video we basically get a bunch of engagements or quick peeks at whatever interesting development happens in a match, then instantly cut to the next one, stay for a few seconds, move to the next. Then the match is suddenly over, and then we move to the next thing that happens. It's kinda too quick? Like the cuts don't help in making it clear what happens when without taking a moment to internalize that hey, this is a new match, things are starting from the beginning again. It's worse when we also don't have information on who is playing what. I know that you probably spend a lot of time watching replays to cast and record, and that this format would let you put content out a lot easier, but as I mentioned above, it probably needs a lot more work to find a proper format for the highlights, as right now the format is very rough.

if there's a vote, I say unedited is better. Like we can't keep up. We don't know who's winning and who's losing, and then poof, one side won

watching Bikerush play NOD is just pure of art, dude know exactly how to play it and he play like no other, he even won a match with pure Black Hand's Rocket Militant squads against Turret and Hammerhead

Props to you for trying something new! I love watching the long games though, get a better feel of the matches, more commentary and it helps me pass the time! 😊Love your vids!!

No editing adds the suspense! I can imagine what they're going to do with the first units, how they'll defend whilst building, if I can think about other bases they've built when being attacked, how long until the redeemer helps in a particular scenario type stuff. Your content shines through your energy!

definitely agree, unedited matches is better.

Please leave the videos uncut. I really like the moments when "nothing" happens where you do small talk or give some info about the map or the players. The uncut videos do build up the tension and the excitement really well wich is completly missing in the cut version of the video. love your content and videos they are really fun to watch. Thank you

I like the whole uncut matches better, to see the buildup, first back and forth scirmishes, your explaining/ commentary of strategies of early builds. It's just more interesting, thank you though, I appreciate you trying something new :) Thanks for the content !

I prefer the unedited version.

Please bring the full matches back! Plz!

Just bought this game and I m loving it! Red alert player here btw.

I just watched first two games. I kinda understeand what's went on during the first. About the second I only know the winner. Please, go back to posting full games.

Unedited is way better. I learned a lot of strats because of this channel. I hope you re-upload the unedited version instead.

Uncut content is much better imo. I don't mind some short highlight videos from time to time, but long uncut content is why I liked your content to start with.

If you would be so kind as to post the un-edited version of the video of the tournament, we would be most grateful!

Do BOTH. Upload the highlights edit as a standalone video. In addition to full videos.

WE love you Sybert and you know thtat, but we need the uncut Version with you, greetings from germany

I agree with the rest. I really would like the unedited version.

огонь огонь огонь. какой кошмр))) rex))) формат с перепрыгиванием таймингов мне не понравился. я привык сам выбирать в какой момент удобнее перемотать

Maybe im just being selfish sorry sybert, you are amazing! Hands down. I just love coming home, cracking a cold one and unwinding to your full vids and commentary. Much love tho and keep it up idk what i would do without this content.

The distraction for the flame tank from another flame tank to distract for another flame tank as a distraction for another flame tank to distract the distracted for the distraction flame tank.

Thanks for covering these great matches and providing coverage of KW in general. While I appreciate the experimentation because that can lead to better casting, but in this case would you cover these matches uncut, please? I really appreciate being able to follow the build orders right from the start and the moment by moment tactics and decisions made by these incredible players. Skipping through the match makes it harder to follow what is happening and many interesting connecting action points are missed. KW matches are incredibily fast with few, if any, moments not filled with action. Highlights work for traditional sports, but definately less so for e-sports. Keep up the brilliant casting!

Sybert please keep the uncut version of Kane's wrath

i think posting both short version and long version is good idea

Love your content sybert, i like it that you’re experimenting with new stuff but i would much rather watch the unedited version of the full match instead of just highlights, part of the charm is the small talk you do during the slow moments of matches too.

its not like edited to 10 minutes video, whoever watch over one hour game will definitely watch it full length

А мне понравился неотредактированный формат. Но такие великие бои как например Bikerush vs. Masterleaf конечно стоит смотреть полностью

Dustbowl is such a deceptively narrow map to play on. Its flat open terrain is merely a funnel that slowly cull players into the center and can become a double-edged sword too depending on their direction of expansion. You can either love or hate the map depending on which side you're on.

those damn hammerhead are really broken!!!

If I wanted to watch commentary in the style of @Bikerushowns I would go to his channel. I get the idea behind this is to make a cut of only interesting events in a match, but if you cut it down to only the big fights most people will not be able to follow along the sequence of events in each match.

"Get the foundry, get the foundry!"

Nod Flametanks are the most terrifying suicide units ever :D

1:24:22 i am literally excitedly applauding and clapping hands for the nasty gameplay and hilarious commentary :'D

I'm only around nine minutes into the video and i'm already very confused by the cuts, especially with the first destroyed MCV. Not sure if i will enjoy the rest of that 90 remaining minutes -.- Ps: Please edit the video title, so that it reflects being a "highlights only" video and not complete matches.

Nice best caster returns

Yayyyyyy tournamentttt...

As with most here, unedited is superior. Edited wasn't terrible, just a bit confusing. Maybe create a cut screen so we know there's a jump forward?

Unedited version is much better. Looking at the comments, everyone wants to see the build-up to the encounters, not just the action itself.

upload two version of video normal version and full (uncut version)

This was such a jump cut. Couldn't even see what was going on. so many good games that i've missed here. :/

So first off i LOVE experiments. I think its always a good idea to think about formats and how to change it up and improve things. The highlight thing sounds definitely good, but as others already commented the timeskips are pretty jarring. And to put that into more words: Its hard to actually understand HOW the whole match develops. Its like watching a game where every single battle happens at once. I get that RTS matches can sometimes have a lot of downtime when nobody is harassing and just teching and expanding. But maybe a indicator of a timeskip happening would be helpful to understand - ok, this is later on now - WHAT that looks like? No idea. I'm not well versed with editing and i'm not sure what would be noticable enough and whats already TOO much. As others also have said i very much like the longform uncut, commented format but i also have a lot of time on my hands. Its fun to see how everything develops and changes over the run of a match. I wonder if different C&C titles need an edited format in different ways. Like i personally catch myself zoning out in many of the big maps of Red Alert 3. That seems to bog down to a lot of fights that dont go anywhere while theyre trying to hoard the whole map instead of ending the game. Maybe i just LIKE Kanes Wrath a lot more, but i seldom get bored watching those. I'll watch the rest, maybe i get another idea, but i say continue this experiment! Lets see where it goes!

@Moewenfels

4 ай бұрын

One thing i'm already doing to combat my "Skip confusion" is having an eye on the gametimer. When i know its around 3 minutes and i seem to notice a skip i check the clock and now its 5 minutes and i know this is further on with not much happening. Maybe a easier to read, bigger gametimer would be useful for viewers? Maybe it having a little "pulse" animation thats easy to notice if youre eyeing for it would be a decent indicator of a time skip.

@Moewenfels

4 ай бұрын

I guess this might also be a discussion of "build-up" vs "payoff" Where the slower parts of a game really give you time to breathe and when it gets exciting again and shit is happening, its so much more impactful. The ebb and flow of the game might be important, instead of having only flow.

@Moewenfels

4 ай бұрын

Its not all negative tho, its kinda cool to see so much games so quickly. I guess whatever WE dont see with those skips, the kinda story every match tells just has to be told by Sybert. Maybe its also just a bit unusual that i gotta focus 100% now all the time without some downtimes.

@Moewenfels

4 ай бұрын

As also others said it does take away the ability to just run the video, listen to it, maybe do some stuff, play games or even work and just tab back in when shit hits the fan. I did like to watch it that way, but i'm not averse to try something new. I'm 35 minutes in and it does get kinda exhausting to be honest :D But i can just pick it up back whenever if needed.

@Moewenfels

4 ай бұрын

I wonder what the production seems like. If Sybert commented 100% of those matches, but then cut them down to bunch up the action, one COULD argue that might be lost revenue? Like people are probably fine watching the full length tournament and that would amount to several hours of videos for YT bucks. But Sybert is the one with the video stats and has to know whats worth it or not.

I dont mind either formats. As someone who had watched your videos for years and can understand to some degree the skips with some guesswork on my behalf, this might not be easy to follow for those who are new to your channel or for any other reason.

Making cut videos that focus on all the most active parts of the game isnt a bad idea. If you want to post videos like this then you can make them into short videos that would actually help push this gameplay to people who wouldnt watch a full match. It might get more people interested in CnC. I do believe though that most of your current viewers would really like to see the whole matches.

I'd be so mad after losing 3 games in a row to the same flame tank spam. I also probably would've picked a different faction, but is there really any way to beat that many flame tanks without slight cheating and/or just knowing?

Is this played om CNC online?

if you want to show highlights you can use the shorts format. in general uncut casts are way better. as a viewer you cannot follow if you don't see the game developing.

As Havoc said, i`ve got present for ya!

Sybert is the gift that keeps on giving KW!

Uncut please!

kane lives

why is nobody playing as steel talons?

28:34 cant even tell if you made a deck-xecution pun there or not :D

I like this format but I think some games should be shown fully

did someone say flame tank?

please leave it uncut. seeing the whole match is way better.

A little bit confused, a few minutes and already got T3 and Much more

This cut-to-action format isnt working for me chief, you know me though.. will love ya content regardless.. Still better than 95% of whats on this trash site.👍

Thanks for all the fantastic content Sybert! I will say that I agree with the other commenters about the edited format, I prefer the unedited way. Cutting parts out removes the audience from the flow of the game and makes it more difficult to follow, plus we get less of your fantastic commentary which is never a good thing! I do hope in the future you'll go back to uploading unedited games but either way thanks for giving us so much professional-quality entertainment over the years!

打得很爽🤟

I am in this for 2 minutes and already hate the cut version.

Good try on the new format, but it's not for me. The cuts made it to hard for me to track what was happening. Each highlight felt like it was a clip of a new game each time.

yeah this jumping round between points of th game makes me feel like i have adhd and cant concentrate, i prefer the old format. but its good your trying new things

When Bike Rush games show up I just skip it because 99% chance he will win it.

GG

@Allyloxycarbonyl

4 ай бұрын

Rex still can´t handle flame tank rush :D

@Moewenfels

4 ай бұрын

You are a MONSTER! In a good way :D

Appreciate what you did here and trying something different but really don’t think jumping all over the place works. You don’t get to really understand how the match develops, how the players are positioning, setting up and reacting to the game. Appreciate the content as always and if it works for you and others keep it up. Just my thoughts.

Keep it unedited bro

Commenting in agreement with everyone else

omfg this time jumps sucks! full game plz

So after having watched ALL of this. I think this experiment was a success. I dunno if the editing quickly became better or me getting used to it, but that worked pretty well in the end :)

The new format is disorienting

I wish I could play

@arskaahhh

4 ай бұрын

Why cant you?

@The_spider_boy_7

4 ай бұрын

Because I don’t have a proper laptop to run the game

the moment you said it's cut i stopped watching. sad for me, was happy to see a new upload. i don't like videos with a lot of cuts, i just can't enjoy that outside of a montage or compilation (and even there the cuts have to be planned out from the start).

I think it would be better for "cut down" content if you just picked the best games from a series but show those games in their entirety, otherwise it gets hard to follow.

Please re-upload the full matches, only got 7mins in before i have to walk away, too jarring

ok now will stop watching this then i want to watch the hole game not edited

Grand final tournament for Kane's Wrath in 2013-2016: Black hand flame tank rush

After watching further into this it's painful with this highlights thing... it no longer feels like watching games in a series at all to me, it's just watching random clips of some battles where people start with tier 3, it's WAY WORSE than your usual videos, I love watching all your Kane's Wrath games but so far this one is easily my least favorite because frankly you ruined each game by cutting out the meat and just trying to feed us the sweets. Please release the real games from this series and never do this format again or do it after the good ones and title it highlights, I might re-watch the highlights but only seeing the highlights or seeing them first is not what made me a fan of your content that watches all your videos, this is a huge turnoff! Does anyone know if there is anyone else casting these tournaments with the whole games? I Love Kane's Wrath and came here to see Kane's Wrath matches not highlights not labeled highlights, I Don't mean to be a jerk but this is incredibly disappointing, I was so excited to see this but now I can't even see the games just random battles without any context or build up, BRING BACK THE GAMES!!!

I Always like your videos first and then watch them but I am sorry sir, I had to change that to a dislike on this one, you need to get the message that highlights without being titled such is no replacement for your usually great videos! Do you ever watch Movies or TV Shows? do you skip minutes 1-5, 8, 10-13, 16, 18, and then watch the end on a 22 minute show? because that is what you have done to these beautiful Games. The further into this video I get the more frustrated I get and wish I could see the games, the whole games.... every minute! I am sure some noobish games can have lots of real dead time but that is not these games.

Sorry sybert editing like this is a a major no.