Christine and the Queens: ‘The violence of the patriarchy is everywhere’
French popstar Christine and the Queens is known for being a little Avant-garde and in his latest album the musician talks about angels, samples a seventeenth-century composer and collaborates with Madonna.
He talked to our culture correspondent Minnie Stephenson earlier this week about gender, his music and curating this year's Meltdown festival at the Southbank Centre.
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What an absolutely lovely, eloquent, intelligent and reflective artist. I have been a fan of Christine And The Queens since day 1 - now I understand why!💕
@staceywashington3580
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. ❤
This is one of the best interviews of any artist I have ever seen. Thoughtful questions and responses.
Chris is a complete revolutionary for a perfect time - One huge swirl of confidence, joy, and freedom; The line between male and female isn't simply "blurred", there's only a sense of oneness; A passions flame that has many voices within one body. A Poet ― The Philosopher ― And a Theologist ..... !!!!
@pattip1413
Ай бұрын
Yes!!
Funny, articulate, intelligent and downright talented. Her performance at Glastonbury 2023 was mind blowing!
@0bserver44
10 ай бұрын
Chris uses he/him pronouns now. I know it's a bit confusing with the music still being produced under Christine and the Queens. But I completely agree with you 🙂 that glasto footage is one of the greatest performances I've ever witnessed.
Thankyou Amazon Prime, for the commercial...I went straight to Google, and found Chris! I am A SUPER FAN!
@daniellankford7125
5 ай бұрын
Meeeee toooo!!! 😅😅. I hate that I've been without Chris for soo long 😩😩
@nance73
4 ай бұрын
Same !❤
music heals
every day should be a celebration of love.
I’m a man and I enjoy her androgynous style, wtf is this patriarchy Christine is talking about? I get the impression it’s a perceived struggle that open and honest dialogue with men, instead of misinterpreting micro-aggressions, would dispel.
Such enlightenment, intelligence, so inspirational. An utterly refreshing person. Talent in abundance, i am in awe of this angel, what magnificence embodied in pure form, respect!!! ❤
Such a beautiful person with the most wise/deep energy. Would give anything to spend a day walking around Paris talking about life with them.
yesss the colour yellow and poetry!!
I absolutely adore the music and am so excited to finally see Christine and the Queens live in September, but I really love the interviews with him. His attitude, shared thoughts, choice of words... He's just always so smart, funny and charming. Lovely!
To the person reading this: Even though I don’t know you, I wish you the best of what life has to offer ❤
@liammurphy2725
Жыл бұрын
If you're human then you know a part of me. It might be the part that hopes, or the part that wakes screaming in the small hours. Thank you though, person unknown to me. Words, not grunts, take us forward.
@nannyofmany8315
Жыл бұрын
To both the above wordsmiths. Lovely. You describe how humanity should be. Instinctive bonding among strangers. What a marvellous conception it could be if everyone could feel that warmth! Thank you both @ ItsCrazy and Liam Murphy 🤗🤗
@spiegelscherbenwald2580
Жыл бұрын
Dito.❤️
I love Chris. His existence and honest expression give me hope in this mean world 🙏🏻❤
@mrbirdie3003
Жыл бұрын
He?
@westboundbadger
Жыл бұрын
@@mrbirdie3003 Yes.
@excakehauler1381
Жыл бұрын
You are being fooled by Satan, he deceiveth the whole world
@debroeglenn4924
Жыл бұрын
Yeah no, she’s still a woman. You can’t just choose what you want to be laugh😂
@ColetteNicoll
11 ай бұрын
@@debroeglenn4924who made you God?
contre le patriarcat, alors pourquoi vouloir devenir un homme ?!?
What a brilliant and authentic artist. She’s an alien in the pop landscape. She’s much more a Laurie Anderson than a Madonna for sure and maybe that’s why Madonna worked with her. I wonder if she does drugs or if she’s really like that.
@mindbodysaul4382
Жыл бұрын
So well described 😊 🙌 And many people today sadly won't know who Laurie Anderson is!
@alexd1121
Жыл бұрын
@@mindbodysaul4382 hopefully those who search can find beyond the mainstream pop creative realm.
@bollywoodoverhollywood8139
Жыл бұрын
She identifies as “he” now. ❤️
@alexd1121
Жыл бұрын
@@bollywoodoverhollywood8139 I just can’t help seeing her as a girl but of course you’re 100% right 🙏🏻
@thfc1984
Жыл бұрын
@@bollywoodoverhollywood8139you can’t identify as a man or a woman. You were either born male or female. It’s not a choice.
wow! Great interview and what an important witty voice in a very restrictive world
Love this interview. The album is amazing!
I love Christine. Such an interesting person...
💜❤️💜❤️💜Chris!!! I love how eloquent their interviews always are.
I feel like he would perform Shakespeare very well, whether a male or female character...
Wow.....what an incredible eloquent artist.
A ray of sunshine in a dark world love you ❤😇
Chris is a beautiful person on so many levels ❤
Well said Chris ! ❤
I saw his performance at Glastonbury which blew my mind. Absolutely incredible. I am a new fan! 🙏❤
@benvanzant9695
Жыл бұрын
Her
@dianelong8892
Жыл бұрын
I feel the same ! He is a real creative artist ! Mesmerising show !
@L_Martin
11 ай бұрын
@@benvanzant9695 It will never stop being horrifically depressing that talented mesmerising charismatic women don't want to be associated with womanhood anymore because apparently women can't be those things, so they identify into being..."he/him". Don't other women find this depressing? It's like nowadays every time I discover some awesome women who is incredibly talented and invariably gender non conforming, they're identifying as...a man. It really saddens me so deeply. It's like they're saying "Well, I can't be these things and ALSO be a woman. These are things only men can be." Of course they would never phrase it that way, but that's exactly what "Gender identity" seems to boil down to. "My personality doesn't match my female body". Ughhh I dread what young lesbians are internalising from this kind of message. And in the same video where she's going on about "the patriarchy" - how dare you even speak about that when YOU'RE TURNING YOUR BACK ON US. You're hopping the fence because it was too hard being non conforming. You're basically spitting on girls and women by denying you're one of us "Oh, there's no way my personality can be part of what YOU are." I feel like I'm in the sunken place from the movie 'Get Out'. Good luck finding an awesome GNC (gender non conforming) woman to look up to nowadays, they're all becoming men. What a sick joke.
@KM-bu7rg
11 ай бұрын
@@L_Martin I hear you, absolutely. I feel the same. I will always love the music of Christine and the Queens and appreciate the artistry and poetry but I can no longer feel any artist worthy of adoration in the way I might once have done. I don't feel that impacts my enjoyment of their output but I'm done with sanctifying any artist as some kind of mirror of myself. Maybe part of it is just my own ageing and not feeling the need to idolise anyone.
@L_Martin
11 ай бұрын
@@KM-bu7rg I know what you mean, but for me I still desperately want women to idolise because I know how important it is to women and girls, because we're pummelled by society if we don't conform, if we're not pretty and don't have "female-typical" (stereotypical) interests or ways of expressing ourselves. The message Christine and so many other butch or GNC women are now putting out is: "Hey, it was really brutal growing up not being a girly-girl soft fem female, and society WILL punish you for it, so I just decided to give up and give into society's limiting prescription of what a woman/girl is allowed to be. If my personality doesn't conform to regressive stereotypes of woman, I'll just become a man and I won't have to deal with society punishing me." I struggled so hard growing up to compile a list of amazing female authors / poets / artists / musicians / scientists, I made a special effort to seek them out so I could show myself "Being a girl/woman does not mean you have to be appeasing to men and care about make up and clothes and looking after kids and housework" -- I put together a collection of awesome women. Virginia Wolf, Sylvia Plath, George Eliot, Marie Curie, to name a few, and now I think "These women were not typical women of their time or of modern times even, so you can GUARANTEE that if they were around today, they'd all be identifying as men!" It's just...utterly demoralising. What, so women and girls can't be anything cool? If we stray outside of Barbie and the Kardasians, and use our brains in any way or do something amazing - oop! Must mean we're really men! You know, men, the only ones capable of being cool or intelligent or creative. It's such a betrayal. It's just...I can't even articulate how depressing I find this whole gender movement. "The Bullies Won" would be a better name for it. "Society Wore Me Down And I'm A Man Now". It's peak cowardice, and most perversely of all, it is dressed up as "progressive" and left wing and somehow pro-women. Old fashioned chauvinists were at least up-front about what they thought a woman's "place" was. I'll take that over this fake progressivism that hates GNC women and "fixes" us defective women by cheering us on into become men, all while pretending to love us. It's so insidious and disgusting. The amount of young women / girls who honestly truly think this is a civil rights movement... /rant over
This was super informative and I really appreciated the upload! Can't wait for more awesome stuff from y'all! Thanks again and hope y'all are having a great day!
Wow she is amazing. A beautiful enlightened person
This talented individual is so real and down to earth. I wish I had such amazing talent! I do feel bad for persons in the LBGTQ group because I know there are feelings whether perceived or real of not being accepted. I don't fall in any of those realms at least not as of yet but I have an open mind so if I ever did I would embrace it. I have many friends and aquaintances in the LBGTQ community and I adore them completely and though I tell them how much they mean to me I hope they know how much they give to this world and are much more accepted and loved than they realize. Best attitudes ever. Be you, be the awesome persons that you are!
the album is the best beirk ive heard in years... simply genius
My wife has loved Chris for a long time, and I'm a new fan, sitting here and watching this has made me a fan even as a person and not just as an artist.
Fabulous and humble wot a glorious combination ❤
She is so humble and articulate. Love her ❤
, the song is MAGNIFICENT, a true masterpiece 💖just like all her work 🤍, although, I’m not gonna lie , it would’ve been just as great w/out Madonna end quote ..
Red is so interesting, kind and talented. He's a true gentleman.
@thfc1984
Жыл бұрын
It’s clearly a woman.
Fantastic interview. Fascinating, intelligent, articulate artist. Invitation #1 to my "dream dinner party" 🌞❤️☮️
She is fucking amazing 💖
@superwhizz114
23 күн бұрын
Chris is a man, in case you didn't know
Humble and True to himself ... Et une Bretonne .. Comme moi 😀
I’m a woman who was told not to cry. That woman don’t cry. So it’s weird to me when people think only men hear this. I feel a bigger pressure as a woman to not show emotions I actually feel. People think women should just be cheery all the time. When a woman cries, she’s “hysterical”. When a man cries, he’s praised and called “brave”. I’m autistic, and feel like I have to bottle in all my emotions just to appease neurotypicals who think women aren’t allowed to be angry or sad. Huge fan of Christine. ❤
@31tomcat
26 күн бұрын
Absolute rubbish. No man has ever been called brave for crying, and nobody ever criticised a woman for it.
I'm mesmerized, I'm in love.
What a wonderful human! ❤
Great music. Views are absolutely nuts
Detroit needs to hear you live, svp. You adore so many artists from here: Patti Smith, Madonna, Alice Cooper, Stevie Wonder and all MoTown icons.
How can you not love Chris! Thanks to an Amazon commercial. I found him and his art.
She is a legend, Intranquilitte is one of the best songs ever made.
Madonna, Madonna is one legend singers, also Jon Bon Jovi
Love this woman -every day shd be a celebration!🎉
Such a beautiful person with pertinent thoughts and talk a lot ! wow 🥰😀
I love her views on things and life
Chris , merci 💎
❤
Is prideful a word? Isn’t is proud?
@stephenwalker2924
Жыл бұрын
PRIDEFUL adjective: prideful having an excessively high opinion of oneself. "a stern and prideful schoolmaster"
@alexd1121
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenwalker2924 Thanks. I had looked it up as well after making the comment. Funny how that word is rarely used.
@ColetteNicoll
11 ай бұрын
@@alexd1121I've never found it rare...but I used to read a LOT
Im on road
A pleasure to listen to him
Love how Christine embodies Madonna in her current performances! Very sculpted! As Madonna was in blonde ambition.
@Sashphoenix
Жыл бұрын
Far better than Madonna ever was IMHO
@Tatokun92
6 ай бұрын
@@Sashphoenix I know this comment is 6 months old but... Nan, Madonna still had it better.
@Sashphoenix
5 ай бұрын
@@Tatokun92 6 months on and nooooooo!
@Tatokun92
5 ай бұрын
@@Sashphoenix 😂 yeah still does.
I’m in love with her soul
I hear you
👍🥂🌻
J ai acheté ton triple CD, a time ago...you are wonderful ! Merci . Je vais acheté les autres...B R A V O !
Love him so. Mystical man ♥️🪽
🖐
‘The violence of the patriarchy is everywhere’? Reeeally? Is this a bigger problem than the the greed of the powerful, and the suffering of everyone else, or is it just another distraction intended to divide us?
@Christinebanks11
Жыл бұрын
How can your country be a patriarchal society when there are 225 women in the house of Commons?
@larissacatharineo
Жыл бұрын
This is how the powerful are able to execute their greed.
@seangallagher8233
Жыл бұрын
@@larissacatharineo No doubt, it's part of it. However, the focus upon a something that is ultimately an integral part of society (men) is an intentional act designed to keep society divided, fighting ourselves, and distracted from directing our attention to the actual corrupt criminals.
@AdoptedPoo
Жыл бұрын
@@Christinebanks11 rich middle class white women on tv whining again of course.
@ColetteNicoll
11 ай бұрын
@@Christinebanks11re you saying that innocent women aren't beaten, raped & murdered in greater numbers than men - because of government representation?
Big fan..😊❤
Yes
No need for the 'I'm not a woman' GIMMICK
✌
Ah yes the patriarchy bullshit
Ecuse me can I hop into your plane teach me to fly boom
Really ❤
I admire Christine as a truly unique artist & really moved by her 1st album however I'm sick & tired of this trend when pop artist changes their "pronounce" & talking about evil patriarchy, 'because the message I get from her is that womanhood is terrible and weak, so she switched the side to become this abusive patriarchy herself- "If you can't win them - join them" kind of thing. From my point of view, it's cowardness and betrayals caused by a brainwashing mass media machine and not some kind of bravery. She mentioned that she didn't want to be put in a box but this is exactly where she is - in the box, with a bunch of others who change their pronounce to get likes & points. Being a woman is not a curse & not an award, but a define biological existence, same as a to be a man.
@bbbrucebaker
11 ай бұрын
meh
Non seulement talentueuse mais très intelligente.
I’ve a them crush. Mesmerizing
I met him why so great enough
She's not the same that she was now she's really dark, no light at all since our mother death, she's talking about the beast, she's in the false light
@missmythmyth
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you yourself are struggling with your senses & discernment, like seeing & hearing & feeling.
She looked more like a man 4-5 years ago. Now she wants to be called `he` and looks more like a woman than ever before. This is all very confusing. I don´t really get her personality. She seems to have a very fluid (..and also troubled..) personality. She does not seem to rest in herself. Listening to her gets me very nervous and also a bit scared (..don´t ask why, but I feel a lot of anxieties, while she is talking).
@ColetteNicoll
11 ай бұрын
Just because YOU don't understand, doesn't give you a reason to overstep his boundaries over & over. I could call you ignorant - & you wouldn't think that was MY right to say such a negative thing - if that's not how YOU see yourself . Identity is personal.
@pauldryburgh6346
10 ай бұрын
@@ColetteNicoll Anyone can have an opinion, whether you agree with it or not. You can think or say about me, or anyone else, whatever you want to. Get a grip. Stop whining.
I guess the patriarchy is so bad she wanted to be on the winning side by pretending to be a man. Otherwise she talks like a regular French woman, which I appreciate.
@angelahonan9395
Жыл бұрын
There are women who hold the patriarchy.
Great bloke. Lol
One flew over the cuckoo's nest ...
This is scary…
His! 🙄
"j'aime sentir mes propres pets" ... interview in a nutshell
Mamma mia quanto irritante postmoderno egocentrismo
no disrespect, but is she a she or a he? Im confused with the queens in the name, and caption to this interview? JUST CURIOUS. I LOVE THE SONG ON AMAZON PRIME, SO IM BRAND NEW TO THIS? I dont personally agree with *confusion*, even as confused as I AM RIGHT NOW, this individual is AMAZING, SUPER TALENTED, AND ALL THE WAY AROUND MY MOST FAVE RIGHT NOW. ❤💙
I love him even more now ❤
she has an amazing voice.
He is such a good but weird
In love of his accent 😅
@dustyrittenhouse7622
5 ай бұрын
She has a lovely speaking voice. The accent is lovely also!
@omardj13
5 ай бұрын
@@dustyrittenhouse7622 He is a Man.
Hahahaha Jesus Christ.
Another victim.
‼️ NO ‼️
🤡🤡🤡🤡
Uk is NOT a patriarchal society . There are 225 women in the house of Commons. I'm not even British Im American. Born and raised .
@daps5984
Жыл бұрын
"She" sounds like a conspiracy theorist these days. Next up she'll say that the jews did brexit/russia war/ 9-11 and it wouldn't even faze me.
Why is she pretending to be a man? And what is this mythical force called the patriarchy?
@daps5984
Жыл бұрын
Patriarchy? ...yeah...."She" sounds like a conspiracy theorist these days. Next up she'll say that the jews did brexit/russia war and it wouldn't even faze me.
@zenabraithwaite1934
Жыл бұрын
We can all be whoever we want to be. I am me. Currently Chris/Red is presenting as "male"- in a suit , showing a bare chest and muscles. Chris/Red is quite obviously an artistic/eccentric. So was David Bowie.
@daps5984
Жыл бұрын
@@zenabraithwaite1934 Yes, yes, we know -- in the "Chris" era, when she was a masculine woman, Chris admitted that she was still a woman. I liked the whole aesthetic, and I can respect it. But this whole Stanislavski method acting has leaked out into real life and she's no longer acting -- she sincerely believes now that she's smth that she's not (the opposite gender). People should discern between fantasy and reality or it'll be worse for them down the road. > We can all be whoever we want to be/ Well in this case, my name is Princess Anastasia.
@zenabraithwaite1934
Жыл бұрын
@@daps5984 good morning princess. Well I did see Chris/Red in an interview saying they have disassociation ( split personality disorder), so that can explain alot. Personally I'm not into labels. I think life becomes more challenging when you label yourself- you are then boxing yourself. I think we should all embrace the different facets of ourselves and steer away from boxing and labelling. If I had to pick a label it would be "eclectic" 😊
@daps5984
Жыл бұрын
@@zenabraithwaite1934 Wait wait wait wait - whaaaaa? Christine has MPD ? I didn't know that, poor thing 😢 (Unless she's faking it like the Tiktokers fake their Tourettes LOL). Yes, I'm not into labels either. I agree with that. I just think there's a difference between an objective biological reality (gender) which is an objective truth, and personality which is more subjective.
Do not comply. No to vaccine passports, no to mandatory vaccines. No to masks, no to tests, a total disgrace
@nicopiubello
Жыл бұрын
What?
@mac7040
Жыл бұрын
@@nicopiubello Russia forgot to shut the bot off.
@Christinebanks11
Жыл бұрын
Bot account
@adamgreen1484
Жыл бұрын
This explains so much lol
I ❤ the patriarchy because I’m a man and we are on top lol 😂
@aclark903
Жыл бұрын
It's ironic the left keep talking about patriarchy yet keep voting in leaders like Biden & Kier over better more intelligent women. And after that shambles in Scotland, where a woman sent a rapist to a woman's prison, isn't this kind of language just a joke now?
@thfc1984
Жыл бұрын
There’s no such thing as the patriarchy
@aclark903
Жыл бұрын
@@thfc1984 Well, feminists use that term to describe "a society or government in which men hold the power & woman are excluded (Oxford)". Japan may answer that description, but in the UK only last year we had a Queen & female PM.