Even as an Athiest you can't deny the importance of religion if you love history, love the channel Chris keep up the good work

@ilikesonicxbro

Жыл бұрын

@@nothingelse1520cut him some slack he’s the smartest atheist😂

@mism847

11 ай бұрын

@@ilikesonicxbro Careful, you don't want to make us destroy your arguments easily.

@ilikesonicxbro

11 ай бұрын

@@mism847 “make us” 🤓

@mahatmaniggandhi2898

4 ай бұрын

"specially" as an atheist

@MilesDoyleSalt

2 ай бұрын

Psalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say, “let the Lord rescue him.(R) Let him deliver him,(S) since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤ Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself. Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs. More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️‍🔥❤♥️

Being an agnostic, I find the story of Christianity and it’s history the connection it has to Western Civilization to be fascinating

@ReachOutMinistries

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@MilesDoyleSalt

2 ай бұрын

Psalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say, “let the Lord rescue him.(R) Let him deliver him,(S) since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤ Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself. Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs. More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️‍🔥❤♥️

Was waiting for you for this one, I’m not a religious person but the history and dynamics of religion and culture throughout history is fascinating. It is difficult to comprehend the differences between them not being very informed on the Bible and such topics

@Spartan265

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I don't believe in any god, gods or goddesses. But the history is still fascinating because religion has shaped human behavior and stuff. Wars fought over religion, etc. Interesting stuff.

@TheRaggedFlygon

5 ай бұрын

@@Spartan265I’m not sure to what extent wars are fought for purely religious reasons. That’s a constant narrative you hear but really the main ones I can think of are SOME of the crusades. But even then a lot of the belligerents were involved for their own reasons. This is especially true when you look at wars during the reformation. Most of the lords who broke with Catholicism did so for financial reasons

@tylerjerabek5204

2 ай бұрын

@@TheRaggedFlygon30 years war started as Catholic vs Protestant And power politics over who and by extension what form of religion their people have to be

As an Atheist I appreciate your comment in the beginning. Over the years I have been given a hard time from many people of faith due to my lack thereof. I'm glad this community is a place where we can get together and learn some good history regardless of our beliefs/political views! Thank you, Chris! Keep up the good work!

As someone who is a practicing Hindu and doesn’t know too much about Christianity aside from the basic beliefs, I found this pretty interesting! Keep up this amazing work!

@mohammadhaider8946

Жыл бұрын

Hinduism is such a fascinating religion! I bought a book by Shashi Tharoor on it('Why I'm a Hindu'), I've been meaning to read it soon.

@MilesDoyleSalt

2 ай бұрын

Psalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say, “let the Lord rescue him.(R) Let him deliver him,(S) since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤ Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself. Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs. More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️‍🔥❤♥️

I remember when my History teacher recommended us to read the Bible for a better historical understanding, she said "you don't have to believe what's inside of it but that's what nearly all people in the last 1500 years in the western world believed and what formed their worldview, art and lifestyles... Especially for Art you need to know a good amount of the biblical chronic to understand most of the symbolism and motives of the most host historic pieces of art"

@carpediem5232

Жыл бұрын

Yes and no. Reading the bible gives you some glimpse at what People believed, but most people never believed "the Bible" most people didn't read the full Bible. They believed what stories they heard and were told about the stories in the Bible and the saints. Especially the stories about the saints played a large role in every day life. To get a true understanding of those influences to only read the Bible is insufficient you also need to read Greek poetry, myths and philosophy, Babylonian myths etc. The Bible is one piece to gain a better historical understanding and a better understanding of art.

Okay so- This may make me sound bad. But whenever Mr. Chris says "The Word" my mind instantly fills it in with "The bird is the word!" I'm sorry for my heresy 😂😂😂

I'm christian indonesian and i always love the history of christianity throughout the world, like how they spread, and the impact to society. I really love listening to your commentary about this part of history 😁

I think that the Extra History series on Early Christian Schisms would be perfect for the channel. What with your pastor background, Chris, and the obvious history involved. Think you could probably add a lot to it.

@svenrio8521

Жыл бұрын

Definitely would love to see Chris react to that series.

As a Catholic and have taught religion to kids,I wish I had studied this. It would have been fun to teach them about were their religion started from. Can’t wait for part two.👍😁

The Sadducees did not believe in an afterlife. That's why they were sad, you see.

I honestly feel like, despite being kind of agnostic/kind of atheist, it's very good that you, a religious person who is a Christian, decided to react to this video. I haven't memorized much of it despite being raised Christian, but because you are an adherent and believe in your faith, it also gives you the knowledge to share about it. So, thank you, Chris, for doing this one. Very interesting from the historical perspective, to see how Christianity has evolved since it began!

He's up to #6. And he does correct some things in later episodes that he got wrong when he did his original post. Fascinating series.

Couldn't agree with you more. I might not be religious, but the history of religion is utterly fascinating, and essential to understanding... almost everything.

VTH reviewing a video series by Useful Charts in collaboration with Ready to Harvest? My three favorite channels in one video? Amazing.

@dbach1025

Жыл бұрын

Love those channels too. Imagine my excitement when all 3 have a new video. Like Christmas for this old dude. Lol

Although i'm not a christian myself i'm kinda fascinated by origin stories and the human power struggles within the various churches. Extra History also has series on the early christian schisms, which you'll probably find interesting aswell, wouldn't mind seeing your reaction to it.

I’m a lapsed Catholic/agnostic who went to a Catholic all-girls high school, a Jesuit university for my bachelors, and a Dominican university for my masters. One of my biggest takeaways from the Jesuit school was finding a love of the history of early Christianity. It’s fascinating! There are some really good PBS shows on the topic. My favorite that I tend to rewatch around Christmas or Easter is Frontline’s two-part “From Jesus to Christ,” which has been posted here on YT. The first hour is on Jesus and his ministry, the second on the aftermath of Jesus’ death through the Judean revolt (focusing on Paul), the third on the writing of the gospels through the Bar Kochba revolt, and the last starts around 100 AD through Constantine’s conversion. It’s really well-done, told by historians and theologians.

@animuszen136

Жыл бұрын

Sounds interesting! Thanks for putting this on my radar

And here, dear viewers, one can see how real historians deal with information, its processing and distribution: one is open about one's prejudices, is open and respectful of those of others, and one realises that one's own prejudices influence one's own perspecctives as much as those as others. Kudos to Matt and to Chris on that one. That's the only way we will be able to enhance our knowledge and enable our search for truth (whatever that may be)

Hey Chris, here's a correction, while it is correct that there were "Habiru" overrunning Canaan during the 15th century, the term "Habiru" is just a vague term to refer to a social class of bandits, brigands and etc that where living outside cities in Mesopotamia and can refer to a wide set of different peoples and while Israelites were technically classified as Habirus, they weren't the only one. So we can't really know for sure what specific Habirus that were being mentioned by the Canaanite kings

At 6:55 when you said you were getting off topic you talked about some really interesting findings in a cool way. Getting off topic is when the conversation often gets exciting!

I'm REALLY glad you're getting into this! Incredibly excited to hear your input!

Even as a non religious person, I appreciated this video. I got a lot out of it.

@TheLionFarm

Жыл бұрын

Salvation is available for the people that brought us the modern hospital 🏥 amen

Love the family tree videos, would like to see you finish this series!

Thoroughly enjoyed the video! The progression of the Church is not as cut and dry as many seem to think. Thanks for your interesting commentary.

Really like this stuff. Although I’m not religious myself I still find the history of religions interesting. I learned from this the importance of the Dome of the Rock. Heard of it, but never knew why it was a big deal. But learning that I was fascinated by the reason behind it!! Can’t wait for more

This is super interesting! I’m a born and raised Protestant and it’s really interesting to learn about the differences in theology that led to these different schisms and denominations. I very recently went through a bit of a research rabbit hole comparing and contrasting different Protestant denominations. As well as comparing and contrasting Protestantism, Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy. This is such a wonderful format in that it summarizes the key points without getting super into the weeds about technicalities

As a Catholic religious studies teacher, I'm looking forward to watching this. Let's go!

@VloggingThroughHistory

Жыл бұрын

Will definitely welcome your input on this series, especially the next episode which I believe covers the Catholic Church more in depth

@Runningthroughhistory

Жыл бұрын

I'll be here for them all, that's for sure - and I'll provide any input where I can. I am especially looking forward to hearing about some of the Calvinist traditions, especially, as a Huguenot descendant.

@andrewcrandall2825

Жыл бұрын

@@VloggingThroughHistory Matt talks about this in his video “who wrote the Bible” but do you believe as a fellow Christian and pastor the actual apostles , mathew, mark , luke and John , wrote their gospels , or their community of followers ? As a Christian I’m not sure what to think and would like your opinion on the subject . Thank you

Chris! Excellent as always! Our friends over at Extra History has a series specifically on early Christian schisms. It'd be really cool to get your take on it. Thanks!

Wow this is great! Growing up and learning the Bible you very rarely learn the context in history so this really helps give context to the Bible!

As an American Eastern Orthodox Christian I am curious to see how this is handled.

@brandonlovelady8659

Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@octavianpopescu4776

Жыл бұрын

Hello from Eastern Orthodox Romania 😀 If you're interested in this sort of stuff, there's a good channel I'd recommend called Ready to Harvest. It's a channel focusing on Christianity in general and has a lot of videos explaining the differences between the denominations and the history of Christianity. I like that it focuses on the facts and presents information objectively.

@brandonlovelady8659

Жыл бұрын

@@octavianpopescu4776 That is a good channel indeed!

@MuriKakari

Жыл бұрын

@@octavianpopescu4776 Also, the whole series is a collab with Ready to Harvest, I believe. Matt keeps sending people that way for more explanation.

@andyduke6119

Жыл бұрын

He does a good job covering it in that episode.

I am a history teacher and have bought four of his posters for my classroom. I love his channel and your channel. I love these crossovers

Also for anyone who say Matt got things wrong, don’t worry he does update the chart in each part. He adds, changes or rewrites things in the chart.

@MuriKakari

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he starts each episode with updates to the chart that have been made based on feedback.

Next episode will intresting one, cant wait for your commentary&reaction to it VTH

I did theology for my a level exams and I actually love that I remembered all the stuff I studied about the early church and everything great vid Chris keep em coming

Love this video!!! And Might be late in suggesting this: but extra credits/history has a great series on this!

As a Christian who attends a non-denominational church, but was an E-Free plant, I appreciate this video (and the series) tremendously. Especially when we start looking at what’s going on with Christianity today and the push by some for Christian nationalism (which I reject).

@Jason-35D

Жыл бұрын

When Jesus says, “blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth” in Mathew 5, there is an argument that Jesus is calling out the Jewish zealots. Earth being the world for earth, but also land, ground, soil.

@Jason-35D

Жыл бұрын

Gnostic beliefs are much alive and well today.

@Jason-35D

Жыл бұрын

When Martin Luther met with Michael the Deacon from Ethiopia I wonder if he was Ethiopian orthodox.

@badcornflakes6374

Жыл бұрын

E-Free?

@Jason-35D

Жыл бұрын

@@badcornflakes6374 my apologies, i shouldn’t have used shorthand. E-Free is short for the denomination: Evangelical Free Church of America (EFCA).

Extremely interesting!!! Enjoyed this!

IM SO HYPED

This is a great series. Mr. Baker is quite objective with this.

Really interesting stuff, especially as a Catholic. Looking forward to part 2.

While I am agnostic, it virtually impossible to ignore the very real impact on history made by religion. This was a fascinating video. I learned a lot about history. Our history, especially in the west, is so very tied to religion, churches, and religious figures. While I may not believe in any religion/god, I can appreciate the role religion played in history. The two are not mutually exclusive. Awesome video by the original creator and your analysis / comments are always appreciated.

Grew up Missionary Baptist and Church of God in Christ (COGIC) both one of the major denominations of Christianity for many Black Americans. Others include AME, CME, etc. Good video as always. Insightful.

I have 5 of these episodes to watch and will get it done . Keep up the great work Chris 👍 you don't have to practice religion to understand that it has played a huge part in our history.

Thanks for reacting to this.. great video

Slight correction, there is also a reasonably large fourth Abrahamic religion, the Baháʼí Faith, founded in the 19th century that has around 5 to 8 million followers worldwide. For context, Judaism has about 14 to 15 million.

Looking forward to more. Very cool video.

I just found your channel and I have been binging all of your videos! I love hearing you acknowledging that we all have biases before you explain any of your views. I think it's such an important thing that people forget! Have you considered doing any content related to the Supreme Court? Mr. Beat has a video where he ranks his top Justices based on a formula system that might be interesting to react to! (I also love hearing the often opposed views between the two of you, while maintaining a friendship regardless!) I am starting law school in the fall of 2024, so I love the legal system/political science as it relates to history. Thanks so much for your content, God bless!

@rebecca24081

Жыл бұрын

Also -- I saw you reference a future episode that focuses on the Catholic Church in a comment below. I was raised Catholic, and I attended Catholic schools from preschool until I graduated high school. I am also excited to hear your take in the upcoming video! An interesting thing related to the presidency that I didn't realize until recently, was the American attitude towards there being a Catholic president when JFK was running. I did not expect that to be such a big deal prior to his election! Very interesting stuff.

I love this stuff, and this is my favorite Useful Charts video...despite my being an atheist philosophy professor (insert Kevin Sorbo joke here). BUT i am also first generation Greek American who grew up (inconsistently, admittedly) in the Greek Orthodox Church. So, i feel this history in my eastern Mediterranean roots. And it's going to be interesting to talk about how the various sects appear mirror moving the focal point of history into western and northern Europe and into the new world

Awesome to see. As a Catholic I love this channel.

The Sadducees didn't believe in an afterlife that's why they were sad you see.

@VloggingThroughHistory

Жыл бұрын

You must have had the same Sunday School teacher as me, lol.

great reaction!

Love it great video! Early on there is brief mention of Judaism and the intertestamental period. While I knew the basic narrative of events, I ran across a book that really has added to my understanding of that time frame, “Jewish Backgrounds of the New Testament” by J. Julius JR Scott. He goes into the emotional impact of the loss of the temple and the influence of Hellenism. Plus, he covers the origins of the groups mentioned here, the Sadducees, the Pharisees, the Essences, and the Zealots. A very good read for anyone interested in that subject.

Hi, Chris, that was fascinating and your commentary very helpful. I am really looking forward to the rest. I would like to say a word about how pleasantly you disagree with someone, you could give lessons on disageeing properly to every politician on Earth, most of them do not know how to do that.

The history, spread, differences, and similarities of religion in the world is fascinating.

This will be an interesting series. I consider myself a Lutheran. My dad's side has been since they came over to the US from Germany.

As a Christian, I love this, because you get a heavily researched but more secular worldview (from Matt) with beautiful visuals, discussed by a Christian with a more evangelical view of Scripture. It's far better than simply listening to one voice or the other. Matt and Chris know they disagree on a lot, but Chris doesn't overemphasize it and they share their love for the history of religion.

A one weekend course in the Reformation was fascinating for me as a young Christian in 1987.

This video is one that I have learned a lot more than I expected. I studied a lot of Christian history (even have a degree in this area) but it really showed me how much I lack knowledge on the early divisions after the First Council of Nicaea and before Protestant. It also made me really focus on my beliefs. Even though I personally belief I am a Christian. I am probably a heretic in many views.

Great to see that you are reacting to his channel, it's very informative and you're complementing his content very well! One question that I don't know if anyone mentioned, he seems to add an extra sound to "Thessalonica". All the pronunciations I ever heard (I'm a southern European myself) make it sound like "The-sa-lo-ni-ka", he seems to pronounce it "The-sa-lo-na-y-ka". Is that an American pronunciation?

I love this series as a Maronite Catholic. Us eastern catholics are often forgotten when it comes to discussions about christian sects so it was so nice seeing them on the chart in ep2. (Though he did get some things wrong about the Maronite church that he then corrected in ep3)

Yo, love your vids and looking forward to this one. Can you do a video on the cynical historians video on reagan? I forgot exactly what it's called, but yeahl.

Excellent video. Learned a lot about the formation of the early church. Always interested in the differences between Christianity as an underground religion and has a state religion run by a wealthy war chieftain. Very different philosophies espoused. Imo.

Extra history has an excellent series on the early Christian schisms. I think you'd enjoy that emmensely.

There's a great video by Historia Civilis on the Bronze Age Collapse if you ever decide to cover that topic. One of the most mysterious times in human history since civilization came about.

As someone who loves history and the evolution of religions I'm excited for this series. partially for the information, but also for (hopefully) mature discussions on it. I am fascinated how if you study the history of religion ( in particular the inheritance of other cultures/stories along with the obviously political and human interference in their development) you can still believe in that religion in supremacy to others? Not so much the faith in the spiritual/divine/supernatural, but more in the specific doctrinal beliefs and Church. Usually I wouldn't ask as other communities are likely to either take offense or desend into unpleasantness. If any believers here could give me their insight it would be much appreciated, and I hope this comes across in they way its intended (curiosity not condemnation) much love brothers in history

@stephengray1344

Жыл бұрын

As a Christian with a keen interest in all types of history I don't see any conflict between that and believing that Christianity is true. I think there is an exceptionally good case that the Bible is historically reliable, that Jesus claimed to be God, and proved it by rising from the dead. I take the New Testament as the preserved teaching of the Apostles (and so the only reliable record of what the first Christians taught), and it shows that Christ and the Apostles treated the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) as authoritative. So that gives me the scriptures, and all the essential doctrines of Christianity are either explicitly taught there or can clearly be derived from it. This persuades me that Christianity it true. Which necessarily means that all the other religions are not (since their central truth claims are incompatible). This perspective plus my knowledge of history means I reject the idea that there is one denomination of Christianity that has got everything right (it's theoretically possible, but extremely unlikely). There's plenty of clear historical evidence that the denominations that claim to be the one true church all hold to doctrines that were later innovations (and usually elevate these to essential doctrines). I think the church I am currently a member of has the vast majority of secondary doctrines right, but I'm not going to be dogmatic on that. The way Christianity developed from that origin point doesn't cause me any problems when it comes to my doctrine, because whilst later Christian thought is worth studying and learning from, the only parts I consider in any way authoritative are the major creeds whose doctrine is derived from scripture. I hope this helps clarify the kind of perspective you were asking about. Do let me know if I've been unclear on anything, or if I've misunderstood some aspect of what you were curious about.

extra history also has a good series on early christian schisms

Matt has archives on religion's on his channel definitely worth your time for later.

@stephengray1344

Жыл бұрын

Though anybody watching his religious content so should be aware that he consistently ignores the existence of (theologically) conservative scholarship. I'm not sure whether this is because he doesn't know that it exists, or whether he just hasn't read up on their positions on the issues he covers.

@AKAZA-kq8jd

Жыл бұрын

@@stephengray1344 Buddy this is a Wendy's

Actually fairly certain I found my way here from Useful Charts, come to think of it. I've been keeping up with this series and am really interested in what you have to add to this.

The early christian churches are always so interesting to learn about, each extinct line with their seemingly minor differences and the compromises the leaders of the faith made to try to bring all Christendom together. I have wondered how different the world would be if Arian Christianity had won the theological debate or what would have happened if the church was not so hostile to the esoteric origins of the Egyptian sects.

If you are interested in the Assyrian Nestorian Church, there is a really good book about it by Christoph Baumer titled "The Church of the East: An Illustrated History of Assyrian Christianity". It is an amazing history, the Nestorian church spreading all the way through Central Asia into China, a few times it came very close to becoming a state religion and thus getting more power but in the end it always didn't work out that way and nowadays it is a very small and endangered church... By the way, the author, Christoph Baumer, has a few other very interesting books about lesser known historical regions and topics: 4 volumes on the history of Central Asia, the history of the Caucasus (second volume will be published this year), a book about Tibet. All are very much worth reading!

As a former religious person, now an Atheist, my love for the study of religion and its history is something I still maintain to this day. Keep it up Chris!

There is a myth that St Nicholas (aka Santa Claus) punched Arius in the face at the Council of Nicene. It is almost certainly not true (it didn't really emerge until the Medieval period, and he probably wasn't even present at the Council), but you can find iconography in some Greek churches commemorating this non-event.

@Justanotherconsumer

Жыл бұрын

Gives a whole new meaning to “Boxing Day.”

I find it fascinating that the Coptic Orthodox Church still uses the final form of the Egyptian language, Coptic, during services. It's beautiful too.

26:01 The Council of Nicaea had nothing to do with the canonization of the Bible. The process of canonization was a gradual one, and there was no single point at which all Christians agreed on which books should be included. However, there are a few councils that played important roles in the development of the New Testament canon. The Council of Rome in 382, under Pope Damasus I, is often cited as the first council to formally accept the current canon of the New Testament. However, it is important to note that this council did not actually create the canon; it simply reaffirmed a list of books that had already been circulating among Christian communities for centuries. The Synod of Hippo in 393 and the Council of Carthage in 397 both reaffirmed the list of books that had been accepted at the Council of Rome. These councils were attended by a large number of bishops from North Africa, and their decisions were widely accepted by other Christian communities. The Council of Carthage in 419 again reaffirmed the list of books that had been accepted at the previous councils. This council was attended by a even larger number of bishops than the previous two councils, and its decisions were even more widely accepted. The Council of Ephesus in 431 affirmed the authority of the four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles. The Council of Chalcedon in 451 affirmed the authority of the rest of the New Testament books. Thus it's important to correct misinformation in regards to the canonization of the Bible, as it leads to the incorrect assumption about church history.

Too interesting for a passive watch, i gotta pause now and come bacl woth a pen and paper hahaj

One aspect of Christian history I've slowly become more and more fascinated by is the literature itself. Whether it's the history of the non canonical gospels, the seminal works like the Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost, oddities like the Prose Edda, or the spiritual beliefs of Tolkien and CS Lewis that bled into their mastersworks (Tho Lewis was certainly more blatant in that regard).

As a Hong Kong Christian, an interesting thing about Nestorian Christianity is that it was actually the first Christian religion to enter China and actually had a sizeable following during the Tang Dynasty before eventually being banned. There's even a stone artefact praising Christianity in Chinese from the era.

@Doctor_Fate5

7 ай бұрын

Cool

I want more!

I just so happened to watch this yesterday (LCMS Lutheran)

If you ever look for a topic I would love you to react to the channel "Sir Manatee" - How The First Austrian Republic was Dissolved. The history of Austria between WW1 and WW2 is fascinating and is completely overshadowed by the "Anschluss". But there was so much happening with Dollfuß for example, who ended the democracy, the Ständestaat, Austrofacism, the Austrian civil war etc.

I've watched the videos Matt has published so far and he does an excellent job with these, and really with all of his videos. I think he converted to Judaism, and has a phd in religious studies. He did a series on atheism which I found very interesting as well.

I'm atheist, "true" atheist, that is to say no belief in supernatural or divine forces of any kind. Always been a bit interested in the topic of religion, and funnily enough, very interested whenever you talk about your views on religion and faith and how they mesh with your to-the-point and realpolitik view on history. I do think religion and faith are very important and fundemental to the human experience, and are in the end something that the society as a whole benefits from. Especially interested in early records of Christianity and how the religion very rapidly "swallowed up" such a great amount of peoples and societies. I think what I'm trying to say is I'm very excited for this series!

Arianism and Neo-Arianism flourished at times in the fourth century. Leaders like Athanasius of Alexandria, who survived being sent into exile, and the Cappadocians fought for Nicene orthodoxy for decades. They emerged victorious at the Council of Constantinople (AD 381). Jaroslav Pelikan's Christianity and Classical Culture is a fascinating read on the fourth century.

I'm so glad you chose to react to this topic. I think our secular schools do a tremendous disservice to their students by not teaching them anything about religion. Religion is so intertwined with the history of the world, it is difficult to understand world history without it. I went to Catholic school, and was taught the basics of the major religions of the world, and also the beliefs of the major protestant denominations. It's a fascinating subject, but it also helps give context for the unfolding of historical events.

@TheRedOctoberProject

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. So many cultural and scientific advances originated as part of, or in service to, a major religion. I'm no longer religious but historically speaking, there's no way to separate religion from culture. Sometimes for the worse but also sometimes for the better. People have gone to war and killed in the name of their interpretation of religion, of course. On the other hand, so many well-known musicians throughout history once used their tremendous talent for their faith, and buildings like mosques, old churches, and synagogues are objectively some of the most beautiful buildings you'll often find in a given locale. Even given my own struggles with faith, I still don't agree with the notion that religions are inherently bad - they're just often a reflection of the human beings that practice them.

@maryloumawson6006

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRedOctoberProject Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree 100%. I think most Americans would also. I myself am not particularly religious, but I do recognize the restraint religion puts on human tendency toward tyranny and despotism. I think most people could agree we should revere the 10 Commandments, and acknowledge that abiding by them would make for a better society.

Hi. I'm a member of the Oriental Orthodox Church. Specifically, I am a Jacobite which is a sub-sect that broke away from the Malankara Church to rejoin the Syriac Church. Thank you Chris for reviewing this video. Most don't know that Christianity flourished in other parts of the world before becoming mainstream in Europe, thus creating the myth that the Word of Christ was brought over to places like Egypt, Syria, and India through colonialism. You have my many thanks.

Useful charts is great, including their videos on religion. Two I'd recommend to you are: 1) His videos on the psychology of atheists, which was his PhD thesis. Probably the best objective analysis of the subject I've seen. Interestingly it feels like he really wanted to squash some hate he was getting where if he posted anything about history conflicting with religions (especially Christianity but also his own Jewish religion) people accused him of being an atheist, which is ironic of course. 2) HIs "Did Moses Exist?" video. Keeping in mind he himself is a Jew but he's willing to make content that puts aside his religions view on history and look at the broader non-religious material and where it conflicts with even some of his own religions practioners. I'll warn you that this might challenge some of your personal beliefs but I think he does a very fair analysis of the historicity of things like Moses and the Exodus and also gets into why things like Jesus are at least somewhat easier to narrow down potential historical versions vs something like the Exodus where our earliest surviving writings are so much later than the events in question. I totally get your approach to this as a Christian and looking at history through the strong biblical lens, though I will say you definitely take on a very different role here, more Christian than historian. Relying on the assumed accuracy of the modern biblical writings to a degree I don't see you rely on such narrow sources say when considering say Civil War history or other histories you've dug into on your channel. Which is no critique, just an observation. As a Christian I know your beliefs in those codified biblical sources are important (having been raised a fundamental evangelical Christian under a Southern Baptist pastor father I totally get it) in a way that doesn't translate say to Civil War history.

Since you brought up ahmenhotep you should do some of the videos from the Armstrong institute or from associates for biblical research

I subscribed because of this

@TheLionFarm

Жыл бұрын

3:48 🪔 amen

Fun fact: Nowhere in the Gospels does it state that Jesus was 33 when he died or that his ministry lasted only three years. They say he was "about thirty" when his ministry began which places him in the 25-35 range. The number is vague because nobody back then bothered to track the age and birthdays of people like carpenters. The average carpenter might only vaguely know their own age if asked. Likewise, we only see three different Passovers described in the Gospels, but that doesn't mean only three happened. His ministry could have lasted as long as a dozen years. So his age when he was crucified? Somewhere in the range of 28-47 years old. I find this interesting, as most pastors tend to cite age 33 as an undisputed fact.

@stephengray1344

Жыл бұрын

47 sounds quite a stretch for the top end of the range. Matthew and Luke both seem to put Jesus' birth towards the end of Herof the Great's reign, and there isn't the space to move the crucifixion much later than 30 AD. So I'd say the top end is more late 30s than late 40s.

@shortlivedglory3314

Жыл бұрын

@@stephengray1344 you're right, 47 is a stretch. It is however somewhat defensible if we move both his birth back to the earliest conceivable date and his crucifixion up to 38AD or so. I'm not saying I agree with those dates, mind you. I simply think that both extremes are academically defensible, though still both extreme and unlikely. I personally think he was probably within a year of age thirty (edit: when he began) and did his ministry for five or six years. I don't see a strong case for the more extreme dating. I merely accept them as valid.

As a Christian- I loved this. As a human being? My ocd is going crazy seeing all those notifications on Matt Bakers screen. Ugh. I want to go in there and click on it just to get that red out. It’s like techno visine. Get the red out!

A fascinating topic, Thanks for taking it on. Fun Fact: The Catholic "Pope" of Rome doesn't actually have the word in any of his titles, and is only styled as a Pope

Do you or can you put this series in one playlist? I’d love to watch them all in order but with the way suggested videos works I could watch the first episode and get recommendations for say, the 5th episode but not the 2nd episode. Which is annoying when you’re trying to watch the series in order.

Atheist here, but I'm not anti-theistic like some other atheists are. In fact, I'm a believer in pluralism. I didn't get degrees in Classics and Norse Language and Literature out of a hatred for mythology and religion. That being said, I'm a history guy, and you truly need to be informed about religions to study history. There's so much good history in religious texts with secondary confirmations.

@carpediem5232

Жыл бұрын

Yes there is a lot of history but because of the claims of inerrancy it is often even harder to pars out than with other religious texts like Heraclitus or Livy who wrote their own biased histories and often included myth as fact. If people would read it in the same historical context as authors like these I would have less of a stomach ache with the Bible being cited as "history".

It's definitely one of the most interesting topics out there. There are a lot of videos on KZread discussing this subject. For me, I take the view that the stories of the bible are allegory and a mesh of different origins, but it's fine because this makes the concept of humans journeying to find God or something divine even more realistic than say revelations from the Angels or prophecy. Anyways, just two brief points: 1. From what i've read, the first temple was likely a project of Josiah, who did it for political purposes, rather than Solomon's time. The pantheon of gods in this area was more like a patron Diety for each clan, village or collection of villages. The early stories from Genesis till the Babylonian exodus likely was a mesh of literature from multiple origins combined with local tales. So, if people today somehow went back in time to this period, they probably couldn't recognized or identify a lot of what they read from the Bible. It really be alien to the abrahamic faiths today. 2. Religion and politics is heavily intertwined, and it's highly likely that ONE of the reasons for the fast spread of the religion was an attempt by the rulers to unify and have better control of the population. There are some folks who tend to cast Orthodoxy and Catholicism with idolatry because of their veneration of the saints among other things, but I see a lot of their art, practices, etc as a legacy of pre-Christian times from those areas. These "pagan" practices of the early Christian denominations are living artifacts of time. This is how the people of the past connected with each other, and it's just interesting to see how it survived.

As a big proponent of the ecumenical movement, I really appreciate the way VTH speaks of ecclesiological issues of schism, not villifying certain groups that hold to basic tenants but differ on tertiary issues. Some pastors and apologists go on campaigns of bitterness, demonizing fellow Christians who might not line up on every single doctrinal issue. This is my issue with people like Jeff Durbin, James White, and Doug Wilson, who all happen to be Reformed, but seem to lean into hyper-Calvinism (meaning that if someone isn't a five-point Calvinist, they are unregenerate and apostate, two terms that hyper-Calvinists use a lot.) I really admire the ecumenical efforts being made by some Catholics, Orthodox, Oriental, Church of the East, Lutheran, and Anglican christian leaders. Unless a denomination falls outside of the Trinitarian scope of the Nicene Creed, they shouldn't be treated as heretics, in my humble opinion. Can't wait for VTH to review the rest of the videos in this series. Granted I realize this is a channel focused on history and not theology, but as a pastor, Chris has an implicit bias in the way he handles theological issues, and I think those things that come up are handled in a respectful and sensitive manner. Props to him.

I was wondering if you could go through the presidents family trees if there’s any ancestors alive if they served in the military, or they died in any wars

@VloggingThroughHistory

Жыл бұрын

I think you mean descendants and I am planning to do that.

@Ravenhill_YT

Жыл бұрын

@@VloggingThroughHistory yes that’s what I meant

Hey Chris how often do you preach knowing that you are busy with traveling a lot?

26:01 The council of Nicea actually didn't do anything to the canon

I recently converted to Anglicanism but love learning about the different denominations

Interesting detail - you mention one holy catholic church (meaning universal in this context) but the Nicene Creed includes the word "apostolic" which is typically used to denote the appointment of Peter as leader and eventual pilot of the Papacy. It's a bit funny that of "one, holy, catholic, and apostolic," the most Catholic portion of that isn't the one you'd think.