CHRIS MATRIX AND I MADE A MVC2 TIER LIST FOR 2022

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It's time for a new Marvel vs Capcom 2 tierlist and this time I create this tierlist with Chris Matrix! 2021 was a great year full of MVC2 content, so I feel like it's a good time to make a new tierlist. Let me know what you guys think of it and if you agree or disagree in the comments below!
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  • @gregmeli951
    @gregmeli95128 күн бұрын

    Who else watching this again after the MvC Collection announcement?

  • @XionSteel

    @XionSteel

    13 күн бұрын

    yup, watching for fun to see how people rate the team i used to use. Rocking the low tier gang with 1 broken assist that apparently carried the rest. 🤣

  • @himuragoXD
    @himuragoXD2 жыл бұрын

    "Ofcourse you thinking about laming people out" that was a gem

  • @Jeffmetal42

    @Jeffmetal42

    2 жыл бұрын

    had me laughing my ass off. lolol

  • @himuragoXD

    @himuragoXD

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mind you I love playing lame too and timer scamming whenever possible. Gotta get that W baby

  • @kennymccormick8295

    @kennymccormick8295

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty predictable, but hey some people are dazzled by anything.

  • @flashbackfrank8781

    @flashbackfrank8781

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@kennymccormick8295Someone needs to get off their high horse 👀

  • @jmcrofts
    @jmcrofts2 жыл бұрын

    AW YEAH I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

  • @bradwiggins2332

    @bradwiggins2332

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just watched yours a day ago

  • @saiyanroyalty229

    @saiyanroyalty229

    2 жыл бұрын

    They need to implement your 5.5, 4.5 system

  • @mjul7003

    @mjul7003

    2 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE YOU CROFTS

  • @OzymandiasWasRight

    @OzymandiasWasRight

    2 жыл бұрын

    The tier list vids are awesome. id totally watch more of these, especially with rotating guests. Then at the end of the year maybe finish with a tier list of tier lists.

  • @doopness785

    @doopness785

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amingo is climbing that latter baby.

  • @fddfgsdfg
    @fddfgsdfg2 жыл бұрын

    Amingo working his way up the tier list, you love to see it

  • @jml6263

    @jml6263

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love that funky cactus so much.

  • @RAEN74

    @RAEN74

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pickle Bean!!

  • @penismightier9278

    @penismightier9278

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's about time. I guess that's what happens when people finally look at something besides the best in the game.

  • @SwagMaster824

    @SwagMaster824

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@penismightier9278 yeah the low-mid tiers are where all the fun in this game are tbh. It’s still hype to see Magneto Storm Psy teams etc but I love seeing teams that run characters like Akuma or Cammy and stuff like that! Megaman is super fun too!

  • @YouGuessIGuess

    @YouGuessIGuess

    23 күн бұрын

    I'd like to learn him. How does his instant overhead work? Who are the best Amingo players to follow?

  • @phychmasher
    @phychmasher2 жыл бұрын

    I love that the Dark Sakura argument has been going strong for over 20 years. Way back when I was in high school kids talked about how it was unstoppable in Japan.

  • @midare39

    @midare39

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dark Sakura is definitely top tier, but even if you don't transform her she's still pretty good, she has 100% stamina, you can combo with her or play runaway, you can be all day in the air throwing hadokens, any hit she lands goes into shouken cancel into super, she has an easy infinite against sentinel and a she has the ken infinite as well. The thing she lacks the most is a good assist but other than that I think she's a very underrated character in this game. I think Justin placed her in the right tier this time

  • @MalikEmmanuel

    @MalikEmmanuel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@midare39 dark Sakura is *NOT* top tier. No way no how. Frame perfect runaway is crazy ass theory fighter at its best. Her run away isn’t better than Dhalsim who never has to be on the screen and can call assists all day to chip with little to no execution required. It’s not better than storm. It’s just not good. You say that she can be in the air all day as if no one can get to her up there and she’s safe when she is not. She doesn’t have an 8 way air dash or an air dash at all. She does not have unfly. She doesn’t have broken normals. Everybody has an infinite against a standing sent but HOW WILL YOU LAND IT? Sent is rarely standing and she is a character that either gets locked down by spit x fly x spit, or gets baited into air hadokens aka getting hit by the frying pan. She is not top tier.

  • @midare39

    @midare39

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MalikEmmanuel I didn't say god tier I said top tier, if cyclops or strider are top tier then her dark form may be top tier as well

  • @GlitchanBlack

    @GlitchanBlack

    Ай бұрын

    @@MalikEmmanuelGood argument. Counter-point. Ashura Senku beats Hyper Sentinel Force.

  • @MalikEmmanuel

    @MalikEmmanuel

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@GlitchanBlack in your opinion, would that be enough to make her top tier? does that tool put her up there with strider/doom (screen control, mix, chip), cyc (meter build, chip, infinite, invincible dp, easy damage, great assist), Iron Man, Dhalsim (best run away ever, sj rh, rushdown, unblockable setups, corner carry and corner mixups) and Blackheart (screen control, chip)?

  • @ShinyGBZ
    @ShinyGBZ2 жыл бұрын

    Really interested in seeing Justin do an update to the Ratio tier list

  • @nexus6100

    @nexus6100

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I just saw the video that jmcroft's did before this about suggestions on adjusting the ratios and it sounded like an interesting take. Don't know if Justin saw that video or not and maybe my brain is making a connection because of the video where JM found him in 3rd strike and got absolutely crushed by Justin.

  • @DannieRay23

    @DannieRay23

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but have characters from 0 to 10 rather than 0 to 5, with the total score going up from 7 to 14. That gives you more room to make characters slightly cheaper or more expensive. Like right now there are some characters that are deemed too expensive, but if you take a point they'd be too good.

  • @tolontolon5538

    @tolontolon5538

    2 жыл бұрын

    the interesting part of jms video was the assist qualification i like that, but i understand y people wouldnt like it cuz its gonna make mvc tiers alot more complicated

  • @plindquist84

    @plindquist84

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, and just a couple days after jmcrofts suggested it needed an update in his video too......

  • @TheGreektrojan

    @TheGreektrojan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nexus6100 Justin commented on it in jest at least, so he is at least aware of it. Given the nature of this video, I'm not surprised if its working its way to a rebalanced ratio.

  • @nintruendo6411
    @nintruendo64112 жыл бұрын

    There's a couple guys that can almost hang, but Mag, Sent, Storm are in a class all by themselves. That's been clear since the arcade days. As much as things have changed since then, it's amazing how much they've stayed the same.

  • @bettermebetterlife8975

    @bettermebetterlife8975

    2 жыл бұрын

    But I am willing to change to be honest. We don't need to be conservative about that. So people need to speak up with their own mind about Cable and Iron Man

  • @nickr4837
    @nickr48372 жыл бұрын

    Amingo the hardworkin Mexican grinding his way up in the world day-by-day

  • @TheHWarriorStream
    @TheHWarriorStream2 жыл бұрын

    Man, not only can Iceman negate chip. His Ice beam does good chip and is spamable. Ice ball does a fat chuck of damage. Has a glitched super that is safe. A damage buffing move with good range normals and quick low normals. Also his ice beam assist can go against certain beam supers and sometimes just go though supers all together. Put my man in high tier!

  • @fredmitchell5987

    @fredmitchell5987

    2 жыл бұрын

    He has no way of opening people up or catching some of the faster characters. I think high mid tier is good for him.

  • @Paxtez

    @Paxtez

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Iceman should have been AHT, good damage, good assist, good defense. One of the only people he loses cleanly to is Sent. Also AHT only had 7 but mid had 17, seems like it should be a bit more even.

  • @justarandominternetdude2579

    @justarandominternetdude2579

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fredmitchell5987 Ice Man can’t open anybody up? I’ve seen way to many MVC2 matches over the years that would say differently. I’ve have personally open folks up & got opened up by Ice Man. Plus, his ice beam assist is one of the best assists in the game. Imo, in terms of catching faster characters legit depends on the player’s style of play.

  • @NinjaSpicoli
    @NinjaSpicoliАй бұрын

    who’s here after the new MvC series announcement!

  • @JinCitan597
    @JinCitan5972 жыл бұрын

    Always entertaining when Matrix is around! Would be nice to see a similar video for UMvC3 with Yipes?

  • @wutthabuck8772

    @wutthabuck8772

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yessss id love some JWong/Yipes content ! Love to see the tier list with them BUT I'd LOVE to see some MVC2/UMVC3 matches with them as well

  • @JinCitan597

    @JinCitan597

    2 жыл бұрын

    More Marvel!

  • @elving.414
    @elving.4142 жыл бұрын

    Nothing like the boys shooting the shit and having good laughs! This is the content we like to see 🙏

  • @CHULAKable
    @CHULAKable2 жыл бұрын

    Yo! You got Chris Matrix! Hype I LOVE the No Frillz podcast so much. It’s awesome getting his opinion on this is amazing cuz he’s kinda an expert on the game

  • @mmsthfanatic6296
    @mmsthfanatic62962 жыл бұрын

    MVC2 time stamp for tier list not finished Roll: roll tier 2:10 the 3 2:28 cable 2:45: iron man 4:25: strider, doom 4:45: dhalsim 5:09 War Machine 5:31: cammy 6:09: RubyHeart 7:34: anacurus (idk) 8:35: Psyclocke 9:00 Captain Commander 9:24: ruby heart again Bans: 9:34: 10:30: Almost high tier 10:55: Mega Red 10:59: silver samurai 12:03: colossus 13:20: Rogue 13:55: Tron 14:20 Juggernaut 14:41: Guile 15:11: Charlie 16:00: Servbot, Dan 16:10 Chun Li 17:50: Wolverine 18:10 Ryu 18:27: cap opinions cap

  • @AnakarisCurse
    @AnakarisCurse2 жыл бұрын

    Nice collab! JWong and Chris! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the 2022 tier list! 😁 Mixed emotions here particularly Anakaris as I have been promoting this guy as at least the lowest of the High Tier league. I even had a quick survey to those who have witnessed through the years, and the result is he's definitely high tier. 🤣 Sad, because him still being on mid tier.. If its all about the bad health, I thnk the best comparative character would be strider, because they have the same health defense, and strider only works (imo) with the right team. When played right, Anakaris can be played with a team or even ALONE (done a lot of solo comebacks vs god/tops). Curse infinites is just a part of his perks, I don't even use it like 95% of the matchups for the past 21 yrs.. 😁🤣. I think it is a misconception that a player should play anakaris because of the curse infinite. As a Ruby and Anak player, I also kinda don't agree that Ruby is above Anakaris. I know its not just about solo comebacks, but its like I have 8 anakaris comebacks against only 2 ruby comebacks. Maybe, Anakaris could have been put at Almost High Tier along with Ruby though 😁. Most of the characters on the top and near top tier in this 2022 list, I would love fighting the most. For gods, Anakaris likes fighting sentinel and cable. Vs storm and magneto is a challenge definitely. On the other hand, I'm happy that Anakaris is still mid tier, because I can still use him on Low/Mid tier tourneys, or promote him beating out top/god tier characters hehe 🤣. I agree with the other characters placements and the justifications. Kudos to the both of you! Looking forward for an updated Ratio Tier List.. Ratio teams battles are widely accepted nowadays I believe.

  • @hestasnostalgic

    @hestasnostalgic

    2 жыл бұрын

    "On the other hand, I'm happy that Anakaris is still mid tier, because I can still use him on Low/Mid tier tourneys" -> totally agree with this coz i want to see more of Anakaris gameplay in all formats hehe

  • @ghostdesignstv

    @ghostdesignstv

    2 жыл бұрын

    When Matrix said the mummy I was like.. can we ask Anakaris Curse about this one lmao

  • @shrekstacy
    @shrekstacy2 жыл бұрын

    Its a crime that Matrix's mic cuts out when he laughs super hard, he has one of the most infectious laughs

  • @nerdfantasyxox
    @nerdfantasyxox2 жыл бұрын

    To me Sakura is almost high tier. On the right team it doesn’t take very long to get to three bars, tag Sakura in and transform her to do heavy damage with low bars the rest of the game.

  • @e7thstar

    @e7thstar

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think I'm the only sakura player that doesn't transform. I just shield my way to you with doom rock assist.

  • @ardenbob

    @ardenbob

    2 жыл бұрын

    If they were Japanese players Sakura would be knocking on god tier door lol, they are obsessed.

  • @GlitchanBlack

    @GlitchanBlack

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ardenbob For good reason in fact - Dark Sakura's Ashura Senku beats out Sentinel's Hyper Attack Rockets super. Also, did I mention that Dark Sakura is FUCKING BROKEN?

  • @flimtok
    @flimtok2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like mvc2 needs 3 tier lists. 1 for point characters 1 for assists And 1 for combined

  • @nullno3722
    @nullno37222 жыл бұрын

    Cammy's killer bee is invincible, it goes through Storm's hail.

  • @humaneshadow300

    @humaneshadow300

    2 жыл бұрын

    Really? Wow

  • @nullno3722

    @nullno3722

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@humaneshadow300 yeah it fully combos too, she doesn't get hit out of it by the ice. She's beastly.

  • @GlitchanBlack

    @GlitchanBlack

    2 жыл бұрын

    GOOD FUCKING LORD. I did not know this, thank you for sharing it.

  • @wfjhDUI
    @wfjhDUI2 жыл бұрын

    Good video. I liked this format of two people working on the tier list together with some debate and disagreement. As always, the variety of guests that Justin brings on is also really good.

  • @EMP_Obama
    @EMP_Obama2 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see an update to the UMVC3 Tier List video because that one SORELY needs to be revised. Maybe you can get someone knowledgeable on the game and collab some time!

  • @tonywong8134
    @tonywong81342 жыл бұрын

    I love these type of videos. Hopefully you can do tier lists for older vs games despite their relatively low character count.

  • @BillyTheChamp
    @BillyTheChamp2 жыл бұрын

    I think silver samurai/Jug should have gotten a higher tier. just from their supers alone.

  • @AndroidOO3
    @AndroidOO3 Жыл бұрын

    This is so much fun! I'll watch arguing tier lists all day! Feels like it could be Rogan for MvC nerds, just keep bringing on guests and learning through conversation and debate

  • @dantepatel
    @dantepatel2 жыл бұрын

    I love Chris Matrix! His commentaries with Yipes are LEGENDARY!!!

  • @b.p.888

    @b.p.888

    2 жыл бұрын

    Faaaaaaaccts. Waiting for the new #NoFrillz

  • @Ash__Adler
    @Ash__Adler2 жыл бұрын

    List looks solid, and the rapport between you and Chris was nice 🙂 Shame about the echo on his audio, but it wasn't too bad

  • @SadBirbHours
    @SadBirbHours2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t keep up with the fgc as much as I did a decade ago, dam it’s good to see Chris again.

  • @jw7276
    @jw72762 жыл бұрын

    Love seeing your channel grow Justin. You and Daigo have been my heroes since I was younger and I wish all the future success on your channel. Thanks for all the content, laughs, and thrills of victories and defeat. #Legend

  • @KillaRock404
    @KillaRock4042 жыл бұрын

    I agree with Dhalsim being a god/high tier character. His rush down and mobility are too good for him not to be. I think his only real weaknesses are execution holds him back, and his launcher is trash which you need to get his damage off. I see him almost like a magneto/sentinel hybrid in the way he rushes down but can also oppress people with his god like normals

  • @HiResDez

    @HiResDez

    2 жыл бұрын

    his damage isn't as high though

  • @KillaRock404

    @KillaRock404

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HiResDez False Dhalsim can actually deal some of the highest damage in the game. His combos can easily do 60-70%. If you have the right assist you can 100% a good portion of the cast. It all goes back to his launcher. Its bad interms of hitbox, but its pretty safe and fast. Also though he can zone with his normals, his projectile game sucks too.

  • @noobtuber10

    @noobtuber10

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KillaRock404 i play a sim/blackheart shell, blackheart assist makes for crazy oppresion on mix amd lockdown, still missing my 3rd though

  • @KillaRock404

    @KillaRock404

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noobtuber10 cyclops helps both BH and Dhalsim. You get an easy set up for infinites with BH and with Sim you can set up your most damaging combos. I run BH/Storm/Cyclops. My Dhalsim teams I was thinking would be Dhalsim/Storm/Cyclops or Dhalsim/BH/Cyclops

  • @noobtuber10

    @noobtuber10

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KillaRock404 i honestly think that sim heart is the final top teir shell

  • @tijuanagenius4320
    @tijuanagenius43202 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed! I like the idea of making a tier list with someone else to help balance your biases. I'm gonna have to go with Justin on this one and say the only things I would really change is having Juggernaut and Iceman in almost high tier. Let's see more of this kind of stuff! Maybe one for Marvel 3 with the new modded characters?

  • @RashaunEatOreos
    @RashaunEatOreos2 жыл бұрын

    Tron should be almost high tier because of her pressure imo That block string infinite is od when done right

  • @infinitecontent8001
    @infinitecontent80012 жыл бұрын

    What's amazing about this discussion is that 20 years AFTER this game has come out, these guys are still giving encycopedic knowledge about the characters, their strengths and weaknesses. And folks are still finding new ways to play this game even to this day is testament to consider MVC2 arguably the greatest fighting game ever.

  • @bighova09
    @bighova092 жыл бұрын

    Love the content. Good to see the Architect Mr. Matrix choppin it up with The Anomaly!

  • @marcelo55869
    @marcelo558692 жыл бұрын

    What about making a market for determining "prices" and weights of the characters based on popularity/performance. Take data from competitive, like, everybody logs and shares their matches. Then we take all data and make a matrix of win/loss, assign prices based on performance. statistics etc. Make a total cap on the total value you can spend on the team. This way the meta evolves and prices balance out on what really works... overpowered -> expensive, but if people evolve, the values drops... Is what we have now enough already? Maybe we can automate with some tools...

  • @nickromano3087

    @nickromano3087

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bro your on to something

  • @exedeath

    @exedeath

    2 жыл бұрын

    You could sort of make that with machine learning. Make one machine learning ai that learn how to play to play the game playing random teams vs random teams and a second one that decide the ratio of the character based at how balanced the matches were.

  • @SaikyoStudios6832
    @SaikyoStudios68322 жыл бұрын

    its very interesting seeing what these two look for primarily in a character. Matrix for most characters looks at mobility first as an aspect of tier, as to why you see him be hesitant over characters like Ruby and Thanos and push for anakaris and chun. Justin on the other hand is about neutral and unique options. But foir sure if your character has no damage it has no love lol

  • @victorp647
    @victorp6472 жыл бұрын

    Look at these 2 legends! Glad to see the Matrix Man. Always coming with the knowledge and positivity!

  • @LightningMcMurphy
    @LightningMcMurphy2 жыл бұрын

    Spider-Man gotta be in almost high tier. Shout outs to Magusold

  • @JimmyKudo93

    @JimmyKudo93

    2 жыл бұрын

    He has a infinite too

  • @emoney8871
    @emoney887111 ай бұрын

    Absolutely amazing character breakdown and overall knowledge of the game ❤

  • @Jeffmetal42
    @Jeffmetal422 жыл бұрын

    i could listen to the pros talk about the cast of this game all day. Such an interesting game.

  • @mrmatthewwilliamsify
    @mrmatthewwilliamsify2 жыл бұрын

    No frillz!! Love and miss the podcast! I think Justin needs to make another appearance on it.

  • @justinnuttall1901
    @justinnuttall19012 жыл бұрын

    Wow, major update! Fascinating.

  • @purifyws
    @purifyws2 жыл бұрын

    pretty sick how this game is still developing like this haha. 10-15 years ago, if I saw a team of like Megaman, Dhalsim, Sakura, I'd think damn this dude is running some of the worst characters in the game

  • @tyronjasonhuff
    @tyronjasonhuff2 жыл бұрын

    Glad colossus has been approached with the good eye in this tl...🤝🤜🏾

  • @thephilosopher7173
    @thephilosopher717325 күн бұрын

    Roll: "I"m just happy to be here"

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah side note for Iceman, he doesn’t take chip from ENERGY projectiles. Normal projectiles like rocks and Missiles do chip though, sadly Mag and Storm supers count as normal projectiles.

  • @b.p.888
    @b.p.8882 жыл бұрын

    Matrix got some GREY in that beard bro, wisdom. Master strategist and tactician 💯

  • @BuyMeThingsnow
    @BuyMeThingsnow2 жыл бұрын

    It's a shame Wolverine is so crippled by his health, damage opportunities, and weak assists: he's a really fun character who still really good at the few things he does. He's basically a more fragile, less well-rounded Cammy with slightly better (imo) range, priority, and frame advantage on his ground normals and a dash that's very similarly in speed. He also has quite a few fun options between his instant overhead (needs an assist but can be pretty brutal with the right setup), speed up mode (infinite blockstrings or unreadable setplay left/right mixups), and berserker slash left/right mixup (very unsafe without a good setup but still an option). I think the thing that feels most frustrating with a lot of low-tier characters is that they lack any real consistent mixups against someone who commits to playing defensively and doesn't get too greedy. Hayato for example has a pretty wild jumping heavy kick with absurd range and priority that can control the super jump space pretty well, and he has some interesting blockstrings with his plasma series (I always like mixing them with doom rocks or sabertooth assist to try and lockpeople down in blockstun in the corner), but janky command grab aside he has no overhead or anything he can really do if someone just commits to playing safe and holding up back once he gets momentum. This is one reason why I think Anakaris stands a fair bit above a good few low and even mid-tiers: not only does he have range, air mobility, zoning, and an infinite, but he also has a very fast and comboable overhead available at any time, not to mention a unique anti air mix up with his mummy wrap. Obviously he can't rush in like Magneto and has to play the neutral and be patient, but he does have something to open people up and put the fear of the pharaoh in 'em.

  • @ElvisMaximus1
    @ElvisMaximus12 жыл бұрын

    Something I've been thinking about and was raised in this video: If every character had an 8 way dash, who'd be the best character I wonder. Are any characters an 8-way dash away from dethroning the god tier

  • @kevinyarmak7620
    @kevinyarmak76202 жыл бұрын

    Jill, Hulk, and Amingo I feel like should be raised higher. They all have some crazy damage when using them with 100% combos. Iceman should be higher. He does a lot of chip and combines well with doom’s rocks. Not taking chip is amazing and gives you more life to call more assists. He can also air combo into his super and allow you to dhc into a heavy hitter. Juggernaut should be higher due to the power up glitch. I’ve seen iceman and juggernaut combine really well. Akuma has a nice air game and decent assist. He can also hit confirm easily into super. I feel like he should be higher alongside guile.

  • @Lordlt82
    @Lordlt82 Жыл бұрын

    You should make a MVC 2 player tier list. I always wondered where fanatic and his one button dash ranked.

  • @phredbookley183
    @phredbookley1832 жыл бұрын

    I like what jmcrofts said: What if some characters are worth X overall but worth X + Y with certain assists. For instance, CapCom is mid if you choose Fireball assist, but if you choose Corridor he's instantly high tier. Also, Juggernaut and Colossus not being on the same tier seems wrong. Either both high or both low.

  • @ryanhartmanisgreat
    @ryanhartmanisgreat2 жыл бұрын

    I would love if you did this with a 10 point ranking system.

  • @chichocooks
    @chichocooks2 жыл бұрын

    Not surprised about the promotion amingo got. Nice vid

  • @vlagtr
    @vlagtr2 жыл бұрын

    Can we get a pt 2 where you order everyone within each tier by power level? Mostly to hear your deep thought process as to the why

  • @Zero_Chaos
    @Zero_Chaos2 жыл бұрын

    I wanna see you do more Dark Sakura, that way you can better show off her placement. Maybe in a tourney video or something

  • @BMKidProductions
    @BMKidProductions2 жыл бұрын

    I think Hulk should move up a tier. His damage is insane if you know how to combo with him. Especially if you can cancel into his Gamma Crush hyper combo.

  • @aelinstue9431
    @aelinstue94312 жыл бұрын

    Back when this was newish in the arcade Anakaris and Omega Red were my secret weapons.

  • @jasonpeter8165
    @jasonpeter81652 жыл бұрын

    This is a good list of characters keep it up

  • @JacobEJones
    @JacobEJones2 жыл бұрын

    Always happy to see the GOAT's opinion on Marvel 2. Justin has opinions too.

  • @omgazr0
    @omgazr02 жыл бұрын

    I just like how my preferred team fit perfectly into the ratio system. Hayato (1) Charlie (2) Commando (4) (7 points exactly)

  • @DragonSlayerX300
    @DragonSlayerX3002 жыл бұрын

    good list but i cant stop thinking about that gold ranger staff behind chris its awesome

  • @sebastiannavarro6926
    @sebastiannavarro69262 жыл бұрын

    great tier list j Xp

  • @drbarnes9831
    @drbarnes98312 жыл бұрын

    “BucketHead” has the best Ironman in MvC2

  • @MrBroken030
    @MrBroken0302 жыл бұрын

    I like this tierlist a lot more than the first one Justin did on this channel,

  • @JC-rm6pm
    @JC-rm6pmАй бұрын

    My team back in the early days 2000-2003 was always Jill/Hayate Iceman, Akuma, sad to see they are all considered mid to low tier, but I was having fun

  • @digdougg
    @digdougg2 жыл бұрын

    J Wong, u need to play Matrix with these teams and see if he changes his mind.

  • @cashwad5713
    @cashwad57132 жыл бұрын

    This is way more educational than going to school

  • @Galahad14of13
    @Galahad14of132 жыл бұрын

    Ok, so we got an updated character tier list... is there any way to do a MVC2 teams tier list? e.g. teams MSP, MSS, Matrix, Scrub, etc.

  • @otterdonnelly9959
    @otterdonnelly99592 жыл бұрын

    The potential of Dark Sakura def gets her in Almost High imo. Back in the day people were scared of expensive installs but tbh Phoenix changed a lot of people's minds for that and hopefully new players can continue to innovate online in the future.

  • @GlitchanBlack

    @GlitchanBlack

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lots of commonly claimed low-tier characters have tons of hidden potential. Sakura/Dark Sakura, obviously, but then you've got characters like Silver Samurai, Jill Valentine, Hayato, and - hell - even B. B. Hood!

  • @NightmareSnake
    @NightmareSnake2 жыл бұрын

    That's okay Roll, you're top tier in my heart.

  • @mimszanadunstedt441
    @mimszanadunstedt4412 жыл бұрын

    Imma try labbing Jill Spyral Venom. Others would choose Sabretooth but venom fang has some more verticality, comes out faster, can buy enough time for a fire zombie from the knockback. And Spyral assist can help Jill get in to apply pressure, if they aren't jumping. I had to take a break from gaming for a bit tho cuz playing rhythm games, rts, fighting games, fps, all in the same week for months really messed up my wrists so I won't promise imma play against ppl but this is better than last format for me which was jill bison morrigan lol. This format Spyral is gonna do work tho ngl, which I think will bump some assist options up to mid tier. Could run dp and sabretooth with her. I might wanna try Dhalsim some too because the high mechanical skill required but that kinda thinking is gonna murder my wrists again lol.

  • @ssykes32
    @ssykes322 жыл бұрын

    Justin, will you be doing a separate tier list that takes other things into account for tiers? I certainly like and respect this tier list but actually prefer many of jmcrofts’ mvc2 tier ideas that take into account how ppl are playing in tier-point matches.

  • @kidrm19
    @kidrm192 жыл бұрын

    I would argue Sonson to be at least mid to almost high because of a couple other tools that she has. Wall run is good because because it can be used to retreat or to punish from full screen, and it's pretty much cancellable at any point when not attacking. It also forces the screen to stay on the lower part of the stage, which can disorient characters who like to super jump a lot. Her command throw stuffs advancing/dash specials and supers. The giant ape super can be used to react-punish a lot of stuff because of the invincibility and hyper armour she gets. It does decent chip damage and is relatively safe on shield. Staff super is a warning to everyone not to mess around when they're above her. The bit about her air dash being slowest is a bit of an exaggeration since the cloud literally appears almost instantly under her feet. If anything, Spidey and Tron's air dashes are slower. Between her air dash, wall run, and ground crawl she can get around and mix things up pretty effectively.

  • @Bulleta420

    @Bulleta420

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @xero18

    @xero18

    2 жыл бұрын

    All of what you mentioned is mad punishable

  • @yerocx
    @yerocx2 жыл бұрын

    Could talking about Jins B assist and his Saotome Shine mechanic land him in Mid? It's sucks his command throw can be blocked, but with assist it can be trapped into for some good damage.

  • @Simon_E32
    @Simon_E322 жыл бұрын

    So hype!!!

  • @saaah707
    @saaah7072 жыл бұрын

    I've always felt Cable is underrated, that if you actually learn the character, he's god tier even without ahvb tod's

  • @kirrus4781

    @kirrus4781

    2 жыл бұрын

    My favorite character... I think a really good Cable can keep away Sentinel and beat him

  • @RashaunEatOreos
    @RashaunEatOreos2 жыл бұрын

    Morrigan should be almost high tier because of her new infinite Its deadass a 50/50 an ambiguous one at that

  • @elvistwatty

    @elvistwatty

    2 жыл бұрын

    Learn me ....link to it?

  • @Augmintt

    @Augmintt

    2 жыл бұрын

    new infinite as in Justin did it recently (but warganic had it 15+ years ago) or actually new?

  • @RashaunEatOreos

    @RashaunEatOreos

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/a5Z6xJWCqq7AitY.html

  • @Augmintt

    @Augmintt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RashaunEatOreos That was figured out in 2004 - maybe earlier - and posted on warganic.

  • @RashaunEatOreos

    @RashaunEatOreos

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Augmintt ohhhhhhhh ok

  • @wutthabuck8772
    @wutthabuck87722 жыл бұрын

    Also Justin it would be dope if u did a series where u actually explain the terms used in FGC & as u explain them u show them in game. It would be great to help new people understand more & entertaining for us that are older & already understand 🤷🏾‍♂ jussayin I think that would be a dope series deadass

  • @CommunitySkratch
    @CommunitySkratch2 жыл бұрын

    great video justin

  • @gamerstimes127
    @gamerstimes12728 күн бұрын

    I wonder if this tier list will change in 2024 with the new game

  • @bsadiq718
    @bsadiq71810 ай бұрын

    Good list dhalsim up 1 level, cammy sakura, amingo, thanos each down 1 level and its perfect

  • @ernart
    @ernart2 жыл бұрын

    Now need MVC2 Omega Mode with this update, Bison with 8-Way Dash, Akuma with Dark Sakura Teleport and etc.

  • @mariop8852
    @mariop88522 жыл бұрын

    You should add more characters to roll tier honestly, especially for people that play ratio since she's the only zero point character.

  • @justarandominternetdude2579
    @justarandominternetdude25792 жыл бұрын

    Would legit like to see the same kind of video with Yipes.

  • @ao_qd
    @ao_qd2 жыл бұрын

    Yo, you need to do a mid-tier battle against Chris Matrix!

  • @hegyak
    @hegyak2 жыл бұрын

    Iron Man's Una (or whatever it's called) Beam does MORE damage on Block via Chip then if you take on straight up.

  • @blive720
    @blive7202 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see chris matrix man.

  • @XXXmarquise
    @XXXmarquise5 ай бұрын

    I took three Chun-li's into training mode to try and force her to work...and I was impressed after awhile with chaining her into Delayed Hyper Combos. But then I actually tried to face someone and was humbled...so in theory she could be good, just as long as your opponent doesn't pick anyone else a tier above her 😅😊

  • @MaineMaineJr
    @MaineMaineJr2 жыл бұрын

    Awwwwww hell yeah!! and I haven't even watched it yet.

  • @warmuzi4240
    @warmuzi42402 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to this now lol

  • @zettovyker
    @zettovyker29 күн бұрын

    Cant wait for a 2024 update! #MvC2IsFreed

  • @freshavocado2456
    @freshavocado24562 жыл бұрын

    Jin HAS a command grab and it's like Laura's super in SFV I think the command is →\↓/← k (I just used slash because I can't find a diagonal arrow in my keyboard)

  • @RetroPillowcase
    @RetroPillowcase2 жыл бұрын

    What’s the value of each tier? Are we going to have fractions? Still building a 7 point team?

  • @sumthang678
    @sumthang6782 жыл бұрын

    Sentinel, Storm, Magneto. Done. 😉

  • @Hillthugsta

    @Hillthugsta

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bottom 3 for sure.

  • @battlericky17
    @battlericky172 жыл бұрын

    I specialize with hulk akuma and cap regardless of tier, they are deadly in my hands

  • @destroyerofgods134
    @destroyerofgods1342 жыл бұрын

    Can you do something like this with pr balrog please? Maybe umvc3? 2 of the 5 umvc3 gods that would be so cool

  • @christpunchers
    @christpunchers2 жыл бұрын

    Dark Sakura needing 3 bars and needing perfect execution to pull off strings of teleports… it’s all theory, hard to excute

  • @GlitchanBlack

    @GlitchanBlack

    2 жыл бұрын

    Never underestimate the power of TAS.

  • @jmanwalsh32
    @jmanwalsh322 жыл бұрын

    WE NEED MORE CHRIS MATRIX AND JUSTIN CONTENT

  • @Jadedx_
    @Jadedx_2 жыл бұрын

    Since panda is in the “we are low on content so let’s just keep doing tierlist” cycle, how about we get a Children of the Atom, X-men vs SF, Vampire Savior, or even a Garou tier lists going. Would also be cool to see some Tatsunoko VS Capcom, no one brings up that game at all.

  • @Shuten_Wukong
    @Shuten_Wukong2 жыл бұрын

    I'm just happy Omega Red is "almost" high tier.

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