Read the full article here (published in 2018): pingsunday.com/choose-heavy-or-light-racket-which-one-is-better/

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

I have seen some very good players like this in France. You can go high with hitting style

Well, personally I think this recommendation is for people with greater strength, perhaps. I used to train with a Stiga WRB back in the day (20 years ago) and it was pretty light. Played with it and got to National Level II Player of China by winning a city-level tournament. I recently came back to the game and tried Viscaria. Not enough control. Switched to Nittaku Basaltec Innerforce, loved it. Paired it with Hurricane National version for forehand and D64 for backhand, weighed 179g. It felt so heavy, and perhaps had something to do with the center of gravity of the blade being closer to the head. Then switched it to G1 and S1, and now it weighs 171g. Feels awesome now. Honestly, if you're not pro player with consistent away from the table play, a lighter blade is much much better since it allows for faster recovery and acceleration, which would more than compensate for a less dense blade. After all, it is all a matter of preference.

I was searching for a video about light rubbers und then the new video from emratthich😂

I like a medium weight racket the most. It makes me put more effort into a forehand topspin and prevents me from having a bad technique. Sometimes it is hard to play my backhand but with some weight training for the forearms it doesn't feel too heavy

175 grams, new harder and heavier rubbers coming on christmas. Estimated weight: 183-185 grams. My current set up is a bit lighter than i need. I need more power.

Yes indeed the centre of gravity will give you the sense of ‘heavy’ or ‘light’ one .. I prefer light blade as I like to play close to the table .. thank you coach

Coach, you should cover Lin Yun Ju’s racket and how it affects his playstyle. God bless from the Philippines! 🇵🇭

Thank you, coach. I am already using a Xiom AZXi, 91 grams, with both Xiom Omega VII PRO. 185 grams total. I'm very happy with the combination. Regards from Lima, Perú.

@germanalonsorodriguez1918

8 ай бұрын

Hey man where did you buy it? I'm looking for some paddles here in Peru but no chances atm :(

Thank you very much for giving these knowlodge 🙏🏼🌹

This is great advice. Thanks for sharing

When I was a beginner, my favourite blade weighed 160g (maximum thickness medium sponge rubbers, but quite light blade), now I prefer 178-184g (a little bit harder rubber, normal weight blades with soft/medium touch). Rubbers with 45-48 degree sponge hardness give me the most confidence (Nittaku Fastarc C-1, Victas VJC > 07 Sticky Extra, Andro Hexer Grip/Powergrip). I will try to develop my technique further to handle rackets with around 190g weight effectively as well.

Hi, it's me again. I just remembered to my earlier comment, and I'm here to tell, that I am having progress. I have many rackets heavier than before, and after training to execute swings with those, my game got noticeably more stable and powerful. My current rackets: Yinhe Pro Feeling + max. Rakza Z both sides (196g), Yinhe U1-VB + max DHS GoldArc 8 (50 degree) both sides (195g), DHS Power G12 + 2.2mm Hurricane 8 (39 degree) both sides (192g).

great video coach.. before even watching this , i have found out my fav weight is about 193-195 grams.. because physics. F=MA. force equals mass times acceleration. and i think you summarized thie needs very well.

i just upgraded to a new bat few weeks ago last one was 178 g with huison blade and taiji t88 rubbers but this one is 170g with tibhar champ and rakza 7 and valmo 1.8 mm rubbers and honestly its way more balanced for me before these 2 i had one for 198 g which was a commercial premade racket and it was honestly really hard for me to control placement in that and make backhand topsin as I am most a backhand attacker who is transitioning to forehand now. with the new racket it is honestly so much fun to grip the ball and make fine adjustments to my placement without losing much of topsin and it is easier on the flicks as well but I still have to practice more as most of the times I end up overhitting the ball and it goes out of the table

My racket is 179 grs. Blade: Butterfly Matsushita Power Defence FH: Victas VS 401, 1,8mm BH: Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker OX Greetings from Belgrade, Serbia. Before same setup with Dr. Neubauer BULLDOG was only 135 grs. I had to change because I play mid distance defense, twiddling...

I started playing with Stiga Offensive Classic with Yasaka Rigan 2.0 on both sides, then tried H3 on forehand for 4 months, then Yasaka Rakza Z on forehand, then Yasaka Mark V on backhand, then switched to Avalox P500 blade which is my current setup at 184 grams. My next upgrade will be Yasaka Mark V HPS on backhand, but I am in no rush to change equipment. I think its smart to take small steps into your level and I have found the speed, flexibilty, hardness, control etc. that I like right now. Mark V rubbers are light weight, so it is good to pair with the heavy rubber of Rakza Z.

My racket this is 198 gr I used a timo boll With rasanter 53(forehand) and rasanter 50(backhand) very heavy, but this feeling is really good

I am curious about serving... Does a heavy setup/blade give you more advantages ? I believe that the serving and receive is a huge part of the game, a lot of points are decided at this stage. Service is one of my strong points and I find that very heavy setups do not allow me to be as deceptive as I can be with a lighter one. Then again I don't mean feather light ! But on a reverse pendulum, you can can be much faster with a lighter version... my opinion and my "feel" in any case. What do you say ? On the receive side of the things a heavy racket will provide better control and more spin on the return... I believe.

Great video again. I would also love to hear your opinion about the current hexagon shape frames and its claimed benefit of increased effective sweet spot!

I use all wood , a stiga allround blade . Is not fast but is light and quick. I got a fast racket with Carbon , i love how the power goes into the ball but i make more mistake with the fast Carbon .

What the actual hell, I was just wondering about that last week.

I have an Stiga Emerald 5-ply of 94 gram, and a Stiga Rosewood 7-ply of 88 gram. Which one would be best/easiest for amateur player to play with? I am afraid of choosing too heavy blade.

My racket's weight is 211.7 g balance point is near a sweet spot and it's work well for this time.

MY BLADE: Butterfly Diode V, weight 98g and i use: Butterfly Feint Long 3 (0.5) and Andro Plaxon 450 (max) total 190g

My racket is 194g I have dhs neo tg2 on forehand and xiom Vega x on a victas blade.

Hello , my paddle is al Yasaka Ma Lin soft carbon,Rubber Dr Neubauer explosion Pro 2.2 and Tibhar Nimbus Delta S Max 185 grm

I just weighed my homemade pen hold bat at 153 g. It seems easier to create more spin.

Hello Coach, i was wondering if you could do an updated version of forehand and backhand rubbers. There are a lot of new ones like dignics or rakza z which i can imagine would be could alternatives to H3.

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it's on the plan

@sergiobongharten

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday great idea, me and other table tennis lovers will love it.

@marlonshkaaa1601

2 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday What do you think about atemi 3000 or 4000?

I have 2 setup 1. TBALC with T80 2.1 and T64 2.1 2. Joola rossi with T05 2.1 and Donic baracuda 2.0 but so far I still can't feel which one better for me (allround player) .. PLS advise coach.. thx

hello sir, i want to ask, what is the suitable weight for a beginner penholder? thnx u sir

I think it's a matter of personal taste. After I quit for a entire year due to Covid-19 I feel muscle paint after a while when FH/BH transition or back flicking /bh. OTOH new trend rubbers become harder&harder, denser so heavier too, so it's almost imposible to choose any light but solid combo with enough speed. My last setup was close to the 200gr range, but I think I'll go back to my light acoustic in order to prevent injuries until I get used once again with proper training.

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. We need to get used to the heavier setup

I use a Sanwei King Kong 2 blade with a Kokutaku 868 bluesponge on the forehand and. Yinhe Uranus Pro on the backhand with s total of 188g, what is your opinion about my equiment?

171g = 90g Sanwei Fextra + 43g 729 Presto Speed + 38g Xiom Vega Europe DF 2.0mm

My racket is 179gr. - BTY SK7 84gr.+DHS H3 prov.48gr. (w 2l of baby oil)+46gr. T05. I find this setup is comfortable.

@DuQ3r

3 жыл бұрын

A very light blade weight for SK7. It's hard to find one lighter then 90gr.

Very interesting the kind of infos we see nowhere else. How do you find easily the center of gravity , i tried but it is not so easy. Thank you.

My racket is about 186gr now previously it's 191gr using Yinhe Jupiter 2 rubber, but i feel too heavy so i change to mercury euro 3 now it is 186.

so that it is balanced how much weight the blade will weigh if my rubber is tenergy 05

I prefer a medium weight blade. I also like thick rubber with good dwell time - I've had good success with Hurricane II. But I plan to play some with Joola Dynaryz AGR (red). I have tried super-light blade before and felt like I gave up control and attack. Have also tried heavy blade but moved back to medium. Thanks for the video.

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Some comments on pingsunday from players: they play better with heavier blade. You can go read on my blog

@blueheart9873

Жыл бұрын

How do you like the Dynaryz AGR?

@idrivearttabletennis

Жыл бұрын

@@blueheart9873 I actually like it a lot. I have in on a 5-ply wood Andro Gauzy blade. I get plenty of power and control plus exceptional spin. I'm now mostly using a newer Andro Gauzy blade with carbon with Andro rubber on both sides (Rasanter on one side and Hexer on the other). It actually gives me a little more power (speed) with no noticeable loss of control. But sometimes I still pull out the 5-ply wood with the Joola Dynartz on it. The Dynartz is great rubber.

@blueheart9873

Жыл бұрын

@@idrivearttabletennis Cool. I am not the biggest fan of it. I played it on Butterfly Lin Gaoyuan ALC blade. I feel like the sponge is a bit too bouncy for me and the grip wore off quickly

@idrivearttabletennis

Жыл бұрын

@@blueheart9873 Yep - I can see that too. I was actually surprised that I still had control when I started using it. But now I'm primarily using Andro rubber (and, for me, I seem like the Hexer better than Rasanter - but that's just me and I'm no pro)

Thank you! Your advices are very helpful and very important! In Germany coaches don't know enough about rackets!

The weight of my Cornilleau Perform 800 is 158 gr.

Is it the same for ch-penholders?

I play close to the table and i'm using a Sanwei fextra blade with 1.8mm LKT pro xp on the forehand and 1.8mm Yasaka Rakza 7 on the backhand. The total weight of this combination is only 172 grams.

@sashbar

Жыл бұрын

How's your experience with Fextra/Rakza7 ? I have an unused Fextra blade (just 83g) that I'd like to try with some medium-hard rubber and R7 comes to mind first. My game is spin oriented mid-distance. Backhand close to the table is where I struggle most.

@rvde1307

Жыл бұрын

Hi Alexander, I love playing R7 on my backhand and especially on the Fextra blade because it gives me good feeling and control when blocking topspin balls from my opponents . The fextra is a (in my opinion) fast but controlable blade with a little flex. Topspin balls, in my case with R7 on the backhand, are very easy to play on the Fextra. This combination creates a lot of spin. But keep in mind it's only my opinion. I hope this will help you a little.

@sashbar

Жыл бұрын

@@rvde1307 Thanks for your reply, I'm going to try R7 2.0 on BH and GoldArc 8 max on FH. GA8 plays similar to R7, just a bit more aggressive, with a slightly higher throw angle. 👍

I'm not a professional player, but at that time when I bought my racket, I hadn't checked the weight of my blade. And it's 93g. The total weight of the racket is 195g paired with Nittaku DHS hurricane pro 3 turbo blue + tenergy 64 and a side tape.

I have Koki Niwa racket blade. I think its very good for me!

My racket is 104g light. I think it is nice for my all round style. But as u said I have problems with my hand. My first pro racket was about 200g defence blade. I love this one to but I can't hold it safely anymore.

Tibhar 4s 84 g + Rubber =183g Stiga hybrid WOOD 96g + Rubber = 186g

I prefer heavy racket, 185-195 g. I have a light racket, but is only for defense.

Joola kool with tenergy 80 fx and tenergy 05 is mine setup!hello from romania!

My raquet is 181g im not really a attacker im more of a chopper that chop from further from table im planning to buy 200g raquet or 150g but i think im going for heavier racker but 181g already feel very heavy and hard to swing i think its like you say my raquet heavy point is on the top for mine

My rackets are usually around the 195-200 g range, but that's pretty heavy already because I'm a penholder :)

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have any problem with your backhand flick with 200g blade?

@kvnngkronos

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday, I used to struggle a little with it, but that's just one shot during the rallies. On the flip side, mid-distance topspins were phenomenal. I switched to DHS Hurricane Hao 3, Hurricane 3 Neo on the FH and Butterfly T64 on the BH and it feels much lighter than my older racket. I guess it's in the 190 g range.

Currently Using Nittaku OuterCarbon ST With AK47 RedMax 169 Grs 😎 LOVE IT

I like light rackets! because with heavy rackets I dont have time to move my racket to where it shuld be... It feels so good to play with just one rubber haha

@gab5012

3 жыл бұрын

1 Rubber? Are you traditional penholder? lmao you save so much money on rubber too XD

@mega2codnoob

3 жыл бұрын

@@gab5012 No, I mean when I glue my racket and only put on 1 rubber at first.. it feels so good and lighweight, but I have to put on another one :'(

i have nittaku goriki danshi, its very very heavy, but the blade used by many japan palyer like sato hitomi. can u explain it?

@sashbar

Жыл бұрын

Because most professional players use heavier blades. When you train every day, 90g fell like very light.

Mine is 226g. Zhang Jike Super ZLC + Dignics

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Wow🙏

@705157

Жыл бұрын

Mine is 217 is it a problem to play with such high weight??

175 or 185 Is Perfect For Me . I'm Using a Xiom Hayabusa ZXI with O7A Max 182gr. 💖

Total 200g -> ZJK Super ZLC 90g, H3 Nittaku Pro(boosted) 61g, Dignics05 49g.

In table tennis it is more correct to say blade then racket even though it is a racket sport. The weight is not just the blade, the rubber affects the total weight. Racket is commonly used in tennis and badminton. For the penhold it is much easier to play with light blade and rubbers. There is so much stress on the wrist with heavier blades. Although the heavier blade is usually thicker, it is easier for penhold grip.

176 g with huison blade and taiji T88 rubbers

7 months ago I had a very light racket, now my racket is 196 grams. Big difference but way more powerful.

Hurricane neo 3 forehnd and backhand with booster baby oil, blade kong lingui special arylaye carbon-butterfly

I'm not pro but I can't play with light blade, my balls are too easy to return, few power and spin, certainly lack of technique! One detail you can not ask exact weight of blade because it depends on air around you and humidity!

I like heavy as light racket I dont feel

When he wrote "all use viscaria", what does he means? who? young chinese? why? weight?

My racket Stiga Dynasty Xuxin 90 g. + Stiga DNA H 2.1 = 193 too heavey for me. Because I'm a intermediate player. After l seen this clip l change my blade is Nittaku S-CZ 85 g. + andro rasanter V42 = 175 g. Better for me.

Are there any balance weights to shift the center of gravity? Does anyone do that?

My current racket weighs about 190g and I think your guidelines are very accurate. 185-188g would be perfect for me, too. My blade is relatively heavy (Apolonia ZLC 93g), so next time I'll select a lighter one (88-90g).

@mrmf4712

6 ай бұрын

No one really cares what is the weight of your racket

Thank you! 192,39 g

Palio Tnt-1 + Ak47 Red + Ak47 Black : 170 grammes.

I prefer light but fast 😀

Hi Guys Please Help 😊Tibhar Stratus Power Wood with Rakza 7(2mm) & Rakza 7 Soft (Max) . Is this setup good for beginners ?

why do Chinese players prefer butterfly viscaria fl. i am a user of butterfly viscaria fl with butterfly Ternergy 05 on the forehand and 05hard on the backhand.

@darrinkulyk9560

3 жыл бұрын

I have one too a 2012 unit 87gr. There no reason not to have one i love mine its Amazing I was Hitting Lines Tonite 😃Xiom O7A Max Bothsides . It seems that all good player have one lol they don't all use them but they Have one .... I use mine Lots .

@shicheng2750

3 жыл бұрын

It all started with Zhang Jike lol

Donic Skachkov carbon 88g. + rubber = 188g.

Players using heavier blade has more advantage than lighter blade?

Mine is BTY Primorac with both side chinese rubber at 214g

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Are you Ma Long? 🤪 is it heavy?

@teckhonghong3628

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday yes it is heavy but I like it especially play away from table. I can loop with confidence but I hate playing with those close to table blockers using pimple out rubber.... arrrrrgh!

@gab5012

3 жыл бұрын

@@teckhonghong3628 What chinese rubber do you use on backhand? H3!?

@teckhonghong3628

3 жыл бұрын

@@gab5012 BH is H3 soft boosted, FH is H3 hard also boosted

@705157

Жыл бұрын

Mine is 217 is it a problem to play with such high weight??

Blade= Mazunov OFF + 106 gr Victus Ventus Extra: 2 sides 100 gr. Total Weight= 206 gr It's a Maze !!! 🏓🏓🏓

I have several rackets, my main racket is at 175gr. I keep all my practice rackets within 3 grams of my main so the feeling stays the same.

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

So light. What is your playing style?

@phtabletennisvlog4473

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday Mostly close to the table or mid distance counters. I have T05 on the fh and a light soft rubber on the bh.

Goriki from nittaku🎯

I play Hurricane 3 Neo Provinical (blue sponge) FH Dignics 05 BH and ZJK ALC blade it weighs around 170-180 grams

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

180g only for zjk alc and h3?

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

How about your glue?

@gab5012

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday The weights just my estimate for now (I know my blade weighs 86 grams and cut D05 should weigh 45 grams when cut), I will update when I actually get a scale 🤣. As for the glue, if I remember correctly, is DHS no.15 (VOC free) and the booster is haifu seamoon (for the Hurricane 3 FH side only)

@Waingro808

3 жыл бұрын

Buy a scale, then comment.

my racket ways 198g and i think it is little to heavy for me. i think i counter attack more than looping far from the table.

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Is you stay close to the table, you should use lighter blade

I just weighed my paddle now, and its 194g

Is 195g consider a heavy racket or not? If anyone know that answer me please..

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Around 195 to 220g is heavy. But it depends on your playing style

What about penhold ???, you didn't give information .

Hi coach..my racket weight is 195g and I have it for almost 2 years and I play close to the table, I didn't know that my racket is heavy. Should I play far from the table until I buy a lighter blade? because I want to play close to the table.. Please answer my question..

@Holamirae

3 жыл бұрын

But I haven't try to play far from the table.

@pisanontanpongsatorn6210

2 жыл бұрын

Me too haha.

My one is 184

My blade is 82 g

My Racket is around 217 Grams ^_^ yahoooooooooooooooooooooooo

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

😂👍

@705157

Жыл бұрын

My bat weight is 217 grams too is it a problem to play with such high weight..

201gr

I play Long Pips OX, i want a low weight blade to use my wrist as much as possible

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Pips OX player likes light blade and balsa. What is your blade? About 175g?

@midgard9552

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday Im Using a Carbon blade it isnt that extremly light weight, but more than other def blades. Im Using a Dr Neubauer Bloodhound with Carbon. I cant get used to balsa and i think it isnt that good for OX Pips :)

I have see again ur old Vidio about how u use a finger in table tennis,im a penhold er so im want to know how i use a finger in penhold thx,i waiting for the answer

Sorry some info is very good...Some informations are useless

I father like heavy racket than

200 gram chinese rubbers and chinese blade

@pingsunday

3 жыл бұрын

Crazy. You use as heavy as ma long racket 👌😂

@stephenlee9512

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday yes it is. Once a while before I used 215 gram. A 96g to 105g with double chinese rubber. So smooth acceleration, but my hand moves so slowly

@stephenlee9512

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingsunday 42 dhs scale of hardness rubber both sides. Red on FH because both sponges are already on the same hardness. Red topsheet is harder, slower in speed but more spinny, sometimes it just almost render slip shots or literraly slips the ball although excellent stroke js done

@705157

Жыл бұрын

Mine is 217 is it a problem to play with such high weight??

@stephenlee9512

Жыл бұрын

Now I play with 160x152 custom with 5.85 thickness, outer alc limba outer plies with double hurricane rubbers