Chivalry: Medieval Warfare - Dealing with Feints at a Competitive level.
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Even though Chivalry is past its golden age, this kind of knowledge is probably going to apply to future melee games like Mordhau.
Credits to King, Frank, Rise and Vincent for helping me make this.
Music: Antti Martikainen - Lands of Eternal Winter
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The meta in this game has gotten to the point where it makes the combat system look broken and clunky when I watch someone play.
@Tribune_of_Italia
7 жыл бұрын
the meta now is still that, but you don't need to do it.
@thefauvel7558
5 жыл бұрын
@@Tribune_of_Italia the meta is arguably very much worse than this. It makes this look like a bot fight in comparison. And yet I do it.
If I don't know what I'm doing then the enemy sure as hell won't.
This is some splendid material. Thanks for the tutorial mate, you helped me a lot!
I love when a man at arms calls me a noob because I feint them after their third back dodge
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
8 жыл бұрын
+Cros This
@Dirxano
8 жыл бұрын
You were bitching about my feints today, I rek u anytiem boi
@ImNoctica
8 жыл бұрын
Dirxano lol who are you? I don't complain about feints you mug
@Dirxano
8 жыл бұрын
it's emi and maybe you bragged about gambling idk fite me tho
@ImNoctica
8 жыл бұрын
lol oh yea you were just gambling making it easier for me
make a video about shittalking please, i've never been good at that
@AIfeim
8 жыл бұрын
+afaultytoaster youve come to the right place
Great vid. The hate against feints is real - even among rank 50+ but you break it down well. Sub'd in case you make any more :)
OMG. level 60 and still feint!
@hearmeroar6175
8 жыл бұрын
+Flor Lmao
@flor660
8 жыл бұрын
+jkesmoker I play 4th person?
@DanYeAMAN
8 жыл бұрын
+Flor omg ppl still cry about feints
@Vire70
8 жыл бұрын
+jkesmoker People who feint and then bitch about 3rd person are just baffling. 3p or 1st is pretty much just preference. 1st is actually easier for a whole lot of things. Acting like it's some huge, cheap advantage is just... what? Maybe in a game of hide and seek.
@Vire70
8 жыл бұрын
jkesmoker No idea, I play in AU and our servers all allow 3rd person. Conversely almost all high ranks hate feinting there, myself included.
good sophax music
Very insightful video, thanks for sharing all this valuable info. :)
This was the exact tutorial I wanted to see from you next, so thanks. Would gladly watch a second video on the subject, maybe showing more double parries and dodges from your pov and talking about punishing a feint instead of going on the defensive.
excellent video, please make more in depth stuff like this
The combination of the tone in this guy's voice and the background music makes him sound like a skilled ninja talking about the arts of war, haha. Good video with some interesting techniques I've never really considered attempting. Maybe this'll help me against those god awful feinters. Torn Banner themselves refer to feinting, in their Tutorial, by saying "Good, now you can piss people off with your shady tricks!", but at the same time there is a level of realism in it; I'm a newbie in IRL Buhurt sport (Medieval combat, look it up), and found that "feinting" is actually useful to an extent, but for a skilled Buhurt-practicer it is easier to block than it is for a skilled Chivalry-player. People need to stop saying "Combat is unrealistic, it's so broken" because Chivalry intentionally has a semi-realistic combat system; it includes some realistic aspects but they are all lacking proper realism in one way or another. One example is how four blows with a longsword to a full-armored knight would not kill or dismember him. A hammer, perhaps with a large spike on the back of the hammerhead, could puncture a knight's armor. Making a combat system where you'd HAVE to get a hammer to defeat a knight because with a sword you'd just be bashing him ten times until he'd get knocked out would be very difficult to make, and would prove difficult to pull off in such a fast-paced competitive game. -The developers of Mordhau have said this themselves. Their new game is looking to be amazing with a lot more controls and a lot more fast-paced battles than Chivalry, so quickly disposing of someone, or proving who's the best fighter, would be settled by the players' skills with the game's original controls, and not by who pulls off the best "rainbow" or any other ballerina-moves, because the fight-mechanics will be so much more... somethingsomething. Just watch the devblogs they've posted, you'll see what I mean. And now I realized that I've just written a friggin article.. Sorry, everyone!
I'd love to see a video on constructing useful combos for various situations and what your experience has been for them!
Great job,great vid,keep it up.
great video man thanks a lot !
nice video. I think you should have covered more about when' to do each of the 3 tactics. and perhaps more on how to do them, especially the dodge. Also your chivalry looks so smooth. I play at 80ish ping usually, and I get about half the animation you do.
thanks! this really helped!
Very nice video,Giru!
"Otherwise the game would be about breaking animations and stamina wars." Finally, someone understands. That is all Chivalry is now.
Ty for this vid.I will definitely use
"It's impossible to win if you think that you've already lost."
really good analysis, please do more high tier tutorials
@sugoikawaiineko629
8 жыл бұрын
how so?
nice video +giru giru,I still have a long way to read/defend myself agaisnt feints,however i hope to get better with your videos :D
great video !
good video explains feints very well
Great vid
thanks that helps alot!
very nice man! thanks for the help, please make a video in how to block properly
breaking animations,never have u ever seen an good man at arms
good video man
Should be noted that DOOP can put you behind in a stamina war, and also has limited usefulness against zweis and other long slow weapons
@MentorAltair
8 жыл бұрын
+Caleb Crumpton Especially with the increased stamina cost on doege in Mercs, however, you will obviously still try to read feints as that would be better than dooping stamina wise.
My problem is, as soon as an attack starts a clock timer unconsciously starts in my head according to their stance and behaviour, so I basically block about the right time, usually just after the windup. Sometimes I still block after my brain actually noticed the feint happened. Muscle memory is not always your friend, lol.
Good job GIRU.
Nice one Giru. Something I need to work on ... - Merlin
Thanks for this video. 3:25 That's funny, swinging from backwards.
@zakh1579
4 жыл бұрын
Kote Kutalia my man i just found u on hear after 2 years xd. I’m trying to use this guide for mordhau
pls make a video about making combos/breaking animations and how to parry more consistent, thx
Hey Giru! Butcher here, didn't know that you had a channel :) Great content, cheers.
Thanks for this video. Many players of Chivalry fail to realize that feints are a core mechanic designed to throw off your opponents parry. They are really no different than drags or reverse overheads which likewise are used to throw off the timing of an opponents parry, but for some reason are more accepted by the community.
sick tactic !!!
fight me no feint noob and see what happens
nice video
Hi, agresiv here. Please, make a video on how to read reverse overheads.
Feints are a mechanic built into the game. I'm level 43 and I use them when I need to. Fuck your chivalry, on the battlefields and in the arenas it's life or death.
Watching this for Mordhau trickz. I was wondering how you got so good so quickly (since Mordhau is relatively new), then realized you've been playing this style of game for years.
still great advice even for mordhau
0:31 "playing with unrestricted feints"
I'm a bit new to the game and can someone please tell me what feints are?everyone talks about them
YOUNG GIRU
please can you make a video how to defend against spinning attacks like reverse overheads?
@honzaschlogl
8 жыл бұрын
+GIRU GIRU Thanks!
How to read and defend drags, how to beat MAA as a knight
@cpowelson9228
8 жыл бұрын
***** I've found the best way to beat a MAA without a shield is to feint a stab and then overhead for a one shot
Make More "How To" Videos Plz There Really Helpfull
oh hey look someone who's ACTUALLY good at this
whata shitta Keepo
its not stamina wars and breaking animations without feints.. its endurance practise and being calm.
GIRU
Really, MAA are the worse enemy to duel against. Not worrying about feints and gambling your way to victory and the fact that punishing their feints can easily backfire. Especially so when it's Knight vs MAA
What's y'all's option on playing 3rd person
@joshgeee5111
6 жыл бұрын
playing 3rd person will limit your ability as a play (competitively) but do what is fun for you rather than tryharding, the competitive scene has been dead a long time.
Why feints are frowned upon but spins are not?
i sometimes react to feints by attacking, but they call it a gamble. is this correct?
@belongaskip
8 жыл бұрын
I'd call it a hit trade since you see the feint and just attack during their real attack
hiw to parry drags
Why dont we have some server with feint disabled . Cryers would stop and feinters would have fun with their bro's ...
Here -> demand
"otherwise the game would just be about breaking animations and stamina wars" it is. Lol.
@baileybutler2350
6 жыл бұрын
once you hit rank 15 (which happens mere hours after playing) you get fucking destroyed by players breaking animations and game mechanics, new players join and leave once they get sick of that, which is why it is dying. I went from dominating matches with fair fights and no tricks, faints and blocks overheads and stabs etc going 40-2 most games, to being lucky to get one cheap ass backstab to some guy already half dead, because some dude will shove his head up his ass and block my attack whilst also swinging 3 times in the time it takes me to swing once xD
@baileybutler2350
6 жыл бұрын
xD dam man
how can i get that point of look? i mean fov
@morte2504
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@neoaxel94
6 жыл бұрын
Reverse overhead must be forbiden
how do I git gud ?? make vido pls
I thought I was decent at Chivalry, holding on to a 2.4 KDR, but holy shit. I'm so casual. xD
@crusadernikolai1996
8 жыл бұрын
Check out MORDHAU upcoming game based on chivalry
@ETF6661
8 жыл бұрын
+Connor Parrish How do you know your KDR?
@connorparrish7002
8 жыл бұрын
Sooooo maybe I keep track with paper and pen.
@ETF6661
8 жыл бұрын
+Connor Parrish lawl
@givmigraad
8 жыл бұрын
+Connor Parrish whatever you want to do, just do it. And maybe buy some more paper
do more kthx
Why you say "reading the feint" you mean predicting whether or not they're going to feint, or reacting to it, when you see it?
@braydenc7942
8 жыл бұрын
It's easy to read feints on console XD the one thing 30 frames is good for.
Feints haters come...
doop hahahahahahahahahah
@Deltax64
8 жыл бұрын
chiv 2 confirmed mage-at-arms dab out of parry?
HandsUp
I see lots of people running away not to fall for feint, such uggly gameplay when I see a knight or vanguard doing this shit and slashing. Unfortunatly most high levels play like that. Made me wanna stop playing for a while. Also...There's no such thing as reading feints. I thought you would mention that every character howls before performing a true swing. You should parry when you hear your oponent howl. However, even if you are aware of this, you won't be able to react when facing the fastest weapons. So against these weapons you should always parry, if you fall for a feint, turn 180° and do the uggly run/exploit OR be a god damn man and strike/kick back as fast as you can. By performing the former most of the time you will be able to escape since these weapons are generally shorter.
@Machado1997
8 жыл бұрын
+GIRU GIRU Which part was unclear ? The ugglyness I refer to is the tatic of turning 180° and strafing/jumping away from your oponent, all this in full plate armour. Also, let us not forget these heavy armored classes can outrun the lighter classes, have better reach, can swing in 360°, etc... My point being, you want to prove your ability stick with the underpowered classes. (maa and archer)
@theodorediuliomyers
8 жыл бұрын
+machado souza wut Turning around and running away is an exploit now?
@7dayspking
8 жыл бұрын
+machado souza Ahhh, nothing unrealistic about running OR jumping in Plate armour.....the issue is with your way of thinking, not this particular game mechanic. Stamina should drain faster...but that's about it.
geez this game does not look nearly as good as I remember it lol
@TheLunarMan
3 жыл бұрын
true
Feinters should be banned
step 1 pick vanguard or knight step 2 mouse dpi at 5000 step 3 360 and lmb
@36nuts18
8 жыл бұрын
***** thats irrelevant to everything i said, your look rate is still 5000 DPI
@36nuts18
8 жыл бұрын
***** what
@36nuts18
8 жыл бұрын
***** i don't care and didn't ask
@36nuts18
8 жыл бұрын
***** well actually i quit the game but i currently have the most popular chivalry guide so thats cool. im trying to figure out why you just randomly said your
@jeffreyschwanke2310
7 жыл бұрын
+Iceborn Gauntlet " I currently have the most popular chivalry guide so thats cool." You do realize you have zero subscribers you fucktard
Feinting is for cowards and nubs
@gerhardjanssen6822
7 жыл бұрын
cam at meh brah
My god that combat looks bad as fuck crouching and spinning all the time sucks
rohing isnt even competitive, your just breaking the animations. your exploiting a glitch.
@jeffreyschwanke2310
7 жыл бұрын
None of the "ballerina shit" in this game is a glitch. The developers have openly said drags are purposeful from the beginning of the game. Before you open you mouth full of shit do some research if your capable. And "rohing" is not a fucking word
@jeffreyschwanke2310
7 жыл бұрын
You mean reverse overheads? That's a drag. Look it up. It's not like it's hard to block. it isn't even broken
@definitelynotadam
7 жыл бұрын
Sadly it has nothing to do with reality of medieval fencing. AoC and Chiv were fun when they lasted, but the combat system and animations are hilariously broken.
lol wtf is that spin bull shit... turning around so your sword hits while your back is to the enemy? lame....