need permission from the ref to save a dying child is so crazy... rip

@shoestring-budget08

3 күн бұрын

Serious evaluation needs to be done to allow medical team to intervene directly

@kurokurookie6609

3 күн бұрын

the clip shows the said player not fall unconscious, right after he fell, he was still moving .. and they had a hard time deciding whether he was just fell and didnt required medical attention? too bad we cant hear the sound in there

@jreyfortich

3 күн бұрын

@@shoestring-budget08 imagine it was your family member. Can you still say this?

@marvinsulzer8258

3 күн бұрын

This is every league. Have you ever watched a world cup? Medical team would run to side lines until ref waves them on. This happened even when Christian Erikson from Denmark suffered a cardiac arrest in the Euro Cup

@rocketman51

3 күн бұрын

@@kurokurookie6609 3 detik udah cukup untuk memutuskan apakah orang ini jatuh biasa atau dalam kondisi berbahaya

What kind of tournament needs medics to make permissions before taking care of athletes?

@anomalysyndrome3235

3 күн бұрын

Turnament under The Badminton World Federation's (BWF) rules ?

@zbz3527

3 күн бұрын

@@Cloudtidus1 this is indo.

@WayneDave195

3 күн бұрын

@@Cloudtidus1 This is not even in China

@ynnos5555

3 күн бұрын

@@Cloudtidus1the international tournament was held in Indonesia.

@WayneDave195

3 күн бұрын

@@Cloudtidus1 Looking for any opportunity to criticize China huh?

This video did not show the incompetence of medic at this tournament. No one attended to him and when help arrived, they did not give him CPR immediately.

@tangt4860

3 күн бұрын

Censored to avoid compensation.

@RohankrishnaB

3 күн бұрын

yeah that's unbelievable

@byssmal

3 күн бұрын

Don't forget the umpire

@HerichoTimpati

3 күн бұрын

Bahkan semua orang yang terlibat di sana tidak ada yang menyangka seorang anak mengalami gagal jantung secara tiba-tiba...

@HKim0072

3 күн бұрын

0:41 The dude was still moving his legs a little bit when they medics got there.

The way Indonesia handled themselves in this emergency situation showed they are not capable of hosting these international events.

@jye7027

3 күн бұрын

100% agree

@axmeister7313

3 күн бұрын

@@louis8743the incompetence is quite clear. Christian eriksen would have died here.

@firmanfatrian

3 күн бұрын

true sih.. wkwk

@Goldjdd

3 күн бұрын

​​​@@louis8743wdym my question are unrelevant, im just asking why the medical staff arent capable of it(which is relevant according to the video(my opinion so dont get mad at me)) But after doing some research about it now ik why

@buddyman8474

3 күн бұрын

Are not capable words is like just another day in 🇮🇩. They just capable in corruption

No one did CPR, no one brought an AED. What an utter failure from the paramedic team.

@roxdbox

2 күн бұрын

No one did CPR nor brought defib because no one knows he got heart attack, because, as clearly shown, he’s still moving and/or still had some conscious. If you got an emergency medical training, you’re specifically told to NOT do CPR on someone with a beating pulse. The title of the video gave a false impression that everyone knew he got heart attack in that moment at the court.

@ahmadganteng7435

2 күн бұрын

MEDICAL PROCEDURE DOES NOT ALLOW CPR OR AED APPLIED TO PERSON THAT STILL HAS HEARTH BEAT.. You see that the player still moving when medic come to handle him.. CPR may be applied on ambulance when his hearth really stopped.. But we don't see the video in here

@wonghongweng

2 күн бұрын

@@roxdbox CPR is not just assessing for a beating pulse or performing chest compressions. It also involves assessing for a patent airway and normal breathing, but the paramedics did none of those assessments. In all out-of-hospital cases, an AED assessment is needed to rule out an abnormal cardiac rhythm. When in doubt, one cycle of chest compressions can be done on a beating heart with minimal complications.

@wonghongweng

2 күн бұрын

@@ahmadganteng7435 CPR is not just assessing for a beating pulse or performing chest compressions. It also involves assessing for a patent airway and normal breathing, but the paramedics did none of those assessments. In all out-of-hospital cases, an AED assessment is needed to rule out an abnormal cardiac rhythm, not just a VF or pulseless VT. The criteria of starting CPR is "abnormal breathing", not "presence of movement". When in doubt, one cycle of chest compressions can be done on a beating heart with minimal complications and can be done on the spot, not just in the ambulance. Please read up on the latest ALS guidelines.

@roxdbox

2 күн бұрын

@@wonghongweng It’s literally called cardiopulmonary resuscitation. Reviving one’s blood circulation. I think you’re mistaking it with mouth to mouth resuscitation or artificial respiration (reviving or helping one’s breath). In that case, you can see the medics already trying to help his breath by helping/holding his head, and just right at the end of the video you see another medic brings out a stretcher to lay him on his back. Again, on the video, it’s clear he is still moving and probably still conscious. This video is a bit disingenuous because it gives the impression that the cardiac arrest happened on the court (which is clearly not since we can see he’s still moving). He maybe went into arrest while on the ambulance or at the hospital, but definitely not at that court (or at least in that moment on that video). You just don’t call “heart attack!” to every person you see trip or fell over.

So you need permission now to save someone’s life? What kind of bullsh!t is that?? 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

@hermesmcclintok

3 күн бұрын

Asians are so uptight they don't even say hello to neighbors

@agmhelena7266

3 күн бұрын

there's DNR but i dont think it applies here tho

@Iuffycs

3 күн бұрын

Indonesian moment

@agestatsega

3 күн бұрын

@@Iuffycs It's literally the BWF rules

@rumahfifi

3 күн бұрын

Banyak yang gak berani melakukan cpr dan harus minta ijin dulu karena takut di salahkan atau di permasalahkan di kemudian hari jika si pemain badmintonnya meninggal Hukum di indonesia sangat berbeda terkadang sangat menakutkan karena bisa menyeret orang benar dan di salahkan Jadi banyak yang takut melakukan tindakan yang salah jadinya harus minta ijin dulu untuk lakukan cpr Disini hukum bisa menyeret orang benar Sudah banyak kasusnya termasuk kasus yang terjadi di vina cirebon

They never gave him cpr and there were no trained 1st Aiders

@rokurotarou

3 күн бұрын

do you even watched the video?

@redtiger4352

3 күн бұрын

​@@rokurotarou no cpr

@gecn9685

3 күн бұрын

@@rokurotarou kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3tr2NeCqrPYmMo.html video

@hornet_2881

3 күн бұрын

​@@louis8743Im pretty sure they didnt do CPR, they just grabbed him and put him on the ambulance of where they pronounced him dead.

@louis8743

3 күн бұрын

@@hornet_2881 The athlete received cardiopulmonary resuscitation . At the request of the Chinese official team, the athlete was then transferred to Sardjito General Hospital for critical treatment, but his life could not be saved.

Need referee permissions to save... This is basically not responsible and not prepared organisation

@LanguorousEngineer

3 күн бұрын

It's just an excuse they're using to cover up their incompetence

@dandruff3414

3 күн бұрын

​@@LanguorousEngineeryes. Indonesian officials (no matter the organization) tend to do that. The old "saving face by giving lip service" policy. Even if it means blatantly lying

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

@@dandruff3414 where yer from ? interesting. sound like defamation.

@dandruff3414

2 күн бұрын

@@keekengho-jq1qe there's one

@dandruff3414

2 күн бұрын

@@keekengho-jq1qe and there's one right here

He didn’t trip and fall, he collapsed! Thats clearly a sign of an emergency, what kind of permission do you need?! They all should be ashamed of themselves

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

Wondered if the umpire is even paid a pay to be there officiating to take these allegation.

@Destroyer-yg6bl

2 күн бұрын

What will happen if they did not listen to referee proceed to do cpr

The "PERMISSION" excuse is just to cover up the fact that they were not prepared for an emergency. Highly incompetent response from emergency "team". Only quick when giving excuses, explanations and platitudes. I saw that they were not fast or decisive or confident in rendering help. These are typical conditions where people are hired for some reason and they wear the uniform and carry equipment to complete the look, at the same time trusting that nothing will happen on their shift. A perception of being on stand-by is all it is. An image of readiness, an illusion of preparedness.

@dhem-ln9ze

3 күн бұрын

Yeah me Indonesian agree too... So many incompetent people to take a held in government.

@Yasnaya_Luna

3 күн бұрын

It's actually rules that BWF make, so it's international badminton rules.

@hornet_2881

2 күн бұрын

​@@Yasnaya_LunaWell, they need to revised those rules, this exact scenario will happen again in the future.

@ahmadganteng7435

2 күн бұрын

You are very wrong.. It is because in badminton history such incident is never happened.. So they expect that the player just having muscle cramps.. This is a sport that not using full-body contact like football or boxing.. This is very-very odd.. May be because the player have use some dangerous drug? Doping may be?

@mikescorpio13

2 күн бұрын

@@ahmadganteng7435 or body is weaker due to exposure to Covid numerous times

Most likely due to HOCM/HCM, usually it's the cause of cardiac arrest in athletes. What he needs is an immediate CPR once he's pulseless, or else he's going to get irreversible hypoxic brain damage. They need to revamp this referee permission thing if there's a potential medical emergency.. that's just time wasted.

@ohgin12345

3 күн бұрын

Ok agreed. But then he still got the attention. Most people would have far less care and more time for action. It's time but I suspect it's the vax. Because if this happens before, I am pretty sure they would have been prepared

@wilsont1010

3 күн бұрын

He would need them if he had to travel.

@ckwkta88

3 күн бұрын

U guys see the other comments and other news articles. Apparently no CPR was commenced. No matter the reason of cardiac arrest, even if his heart failed permanently we have artifical devices to circulate blood temporarily while awaiting transplant. The most likely cause of death is hypoxic ischaemic encephalopathy secondary to cardiac arrest, in this case the MOST COMMON cause is HOCM/HCM.

@richardhanley4279

3 күн бұрын

If so, every athlete go on tournament should bring their own medical doctor with them on the field. Do not rely on the country they go.

@M-hl2qs

3 күн бұрын

well its cardiac arrest .. low chance survive outside hospital . even he survive , he hv high chance suffer more later on .

he died at such a young age too, may his soul rest in peace 🕊️💔

@LyngkotSwer

3 күн бұрын

Since corona many people I know die very young.

@artisthusnatalal3099

2 күн бұрын

​@@LyngkotSwer...😱😱😱

This shows some underlying problems with professional badminton tournaments. Without going into detail, that rule stating that the umpire basically gets to control everything is absurd. The video also shows that the staff is incapable of reacting quickly to such situations.

@marvinsulzer8258

3 күн бұрын

That’s every sport. You watch the Euro Cup? Medical teams wait on sidelines until red waves them over. CPR would not have saved this athlete. This happens in soccer. You need a defibrillator and I don’t batmjnton has requirements for this. Only Soccer and Ice hockey require defibrillators on site due to similar incidents happening

@toututu2993

2 күн бұрын

People take rules seriously that is even more important than humans' life 😅

@alinasmith5737

2 күн бұрын

​@@marvinsulzer8258That's what I was thinking, everyone complaining about indonesia or badminton but it's literally the same in soccer.

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

dear u think a badminton court is a operating theatre, halo ? u sound.

@Pakun-q1v

2 күн бұрын

Bla BLA BLA... kenapa China membiarkan seseorang dengan penyakit jantung jadi atlit internasional??

As an Indonesian, this is terrible. The officiating, the rules, the lack of concern for his *LIFE,* needs no words to make me disgusted. Indonesia is a proud badminton nation, and I hate to see my country tarnish its own reputation. Condolences to Zhang's family, hope this issue no longer happens.

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

Kinda weird u need permission to enter as a medic. It's not a boxing ring.... He collapse so suddenly and they had to ask permission. Time is of the essence in cardiac arrests cases. That's insane.

@dandruff3414

3 күн бұрын

Welcome to Indonesia where everything is moving.... Backwards

@NoLimit4949

2 күн бұрын

@@dandruff3414Malaysia too … abang adik 🎉

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

@besthappylife2

2 күн бұрын

Check BWF rules about medics need referee permission before entering the court So blame BWF first before you judging others on one video inside your home You don't know what actually happening Don't give black mark on your heart

@elrumi6341

2 күн бұрын

​@@dandruff3414your comment clearly shows that you don't watch sports.

Permission to enter the Court for medical treatment? Tf is happened to this world

The fact that they needed permission to save a dying teenager is crazy. Rest in peace to him, he didn't deserve to die like that.

It seems nobody knows about CPR in Indonesia, even the paramedic. Scary place.

@susansudiono4640

3 күн бұрын

Even People in indonesia like to go to malaysia for medical check up, the quality of medical in indonesia is very low, always wrong in diagnose the illmess

@jeffreysuharto747

3 күн бұрын

​@@susansudiono4640 It's just between us. Don't need to tell this to the world😅

@dhem-ln9ze

3 күн бұрын

​​​@@jeffreysuharto747it's better to tell it so the government had a shame.. they really don't had a shame.. they already go to jail cause a corrupt act and they can do again go to office in government.. even drug dealer can do mayor of city.. scary place to live in.. religious Islam just an card identity not in put inside ur soul and act.. Disgrace place to live in..

@dandruff3414

3 күн бұрын

Run

@SoalQ

2 күн бұрын

​@@susansudiono4640 it's not low but expansive. Actually Indonesia like to go to Singapore😁

Umpire and the organizers should be sued. Medics are incompetent. No one thought to perform a CPR.

@dandruff3414

3 күн бұрын

The law is extremely weak unless you make millions in USD.

@JT-bs2lm

2 күн бұрын

If someone collapse, does medics immediately perform CPR? Unless someone is choking or hard of breath. I haven't seen a CPR as first response.

@rabboni97

2 күн бұрын

@@JT-bs2lm If it is really a cardiac arrest, he will not have pulse at that very moment. And a competent medic would check the breathing and pulse first thing when someone collapse. Then Cpr if pulse is non existent to keep the blood flowing.We have training for this every year.

@rabboni97

2 күн бұрын

@@JT-bs2lm you don't perform Cpr on someone who has hard of breathing. The purpose of cpr is to keep the blood flowing and deliver oxygen to vital organs like the brain.

As an Indonesian, I am very, beyond words, ashamed of my country.

Terrible loss 😢 only 17

@chasedownblocks1736

3 күн бұрын

Yeah what’s up with this generation of younger people getting cardiac arrest?

@BruceJ999

3 күн бұрын

​@@chasedownblocks1736Processed foods maybe,nothing is pure and Original this days..Even you aren't immune to this illnesses as long as you consume modern day foods.

@imthecoolest50

3 күн бұрын

@@chasedownblocks1736 I don’t think this is common among young generation. I’ve rarely heard or known of a young person dying from cardiac arrest. Much less a young athlete who has better circulation than the average guy.

@thomasturbato7021

3 күн бұрын

@@chasedownblocks1736 💉

@mdabdullah4379

3 күн бұрын

@@chasedownblocks1736 COVID-19 vaccine. i am also a young man but developed hypertension and chest pain 2 years ago in 2022 just few months after taking my vaccine. you can look it up how vaccine is causing this..

So young… don’t ever take a day for granted, my condolences to his family 💔

The Indonesian org. was not prepared , for such medical emergency situations & provided immediate attention to it. It looked like there was no CPR being attempted at that moment. Our condolences to his bereaved family.!

@susansudiono4640

3 күн бұрын

the medis in this country not value humanity as number one. When my father in coma in the hospital and need doctor straight away , but specialize doctor slept at home,he not come at all till morning, so just use another doctor that not specialize in his part.

@robbyburnpipe7840

3 күн бұрын

I guess they're waiting for the payment 1st to make a move. What an embarrassment

@BenjaminMilekowsky

3 күн бұрын

​@@robbyburnpipe7840what a stup1d assumption

@andyaocean

3 күн бұрын

His coach didn't check how he was doing before the game. if he had a history of illness from the start he should not have played against Japan. it was purely the coach's fault selecting him as the main match of the tournament. This has nothing to do with medicine in Indonesia, in fact it all complies with the SOP rules in badminton tournaments

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

The procedure to respond to athletes needs to change here. You do not wait for permission to attend medical emergency especially when a player collapsed. Time is very critical.

Referee really had a crazy power trip. Reveal his face please.

It is very sad. BWF and PBSI must take responsibility. 1 min 20 sec before treatment is not acceptable.

@ridhobaihaqi144

3 күн бұрын

Being responsible is NOT indo culture

@adashi7430

3 күн бұрын

Indonesia is so incompetence, even the hacker group took pity of us.

@deamy5186

3 күн бұрын

Write 'indonesia' as complete name, not just indo, because 'indo' can mean anything. India also named as 'indo' by other country, especially japan as far as i know @@ridhobaihaqi144

@jinkoplak

3 күн бұрын

@@adashi7430yeah, then just leave from indonesia. Simple eh?

@djadjanesia

3 күн бұрын

​@@jinkoplak The rich people in Indonesia have left without you telling them to, bro. Only you poor people stay there because there is no other choice.

Why no one tried to give him CPR, aren't medics trained to do that?…this is sad

No permission needed for medics to help a person.

It's shocking that that player who was 2 years younger than me(I'm 19yrs old) died from heart attack 😢. My deepest condolences

@mdabdullah4379

3 күн бұрын

covid-19 vaccine.. did you take the vaccine too?? i was also a perfectly healthy young man in 2020 when the pandemic started. in 2021, i got the vaccine. in 2022, suddenly hypertension, and chest pain developed in me.. it was inexplicable.. now, i have tachycardia like symptoms.. if you took the vaccine, you might find out sooner or later..

@bruhdashno

2 күн бұрын

@@mdabdullah4379 each of every human body react differently, plus nobody have evidence to tie the COVID19 vaccine to this case

@ahmadganteng7435

2 күн бұрын

@@mdabdullah4379 Sorry Bruh.. Most likely your symptom is due to your own belief.. As a medic I have met many patients and ordinary people and never found anything similar to what you write

@Justspinwin

2 күн бұрын

@@mdabdullah4379 It just doesn't work like that bruh

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

In a case of cardiac arrest/heart attack , the victim dies almost instantly. But he was still breathing after the fall , only if he could get timely medical assistance. Its so unprofessional , that it sounds like a conspiracy.

With this tragedy, Indonesia should be banned from organising international sports events. 😤 😡

@susansudiono4640

3 күн бұрын

Yes, correct.

@kevinsheldrick917

3 күн бұрын

Or shots banned anyway

@Fkacu

3 күн бұрын

I'm Indonesian I agreed

@rumahfifi

3 күн бұрын

Do you still remember the soccers case? You should wonder why

@hafizilmi7255

3 күн бұрын

I'm Indonesian, and yeah we need to evaluate things before organising next International sport events after this incident. So sorry for the loss🇮🇩

It’s Indonesia. What do you expect.

@hafizilmi7255

3 күн бұрын

Nooo🇮🇩😭

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

@falconeshield

2 күн бұрын

Actual professional organisation?

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

so if in Brasil how would u expect? if in china what would u expect? in Australia what would u expect? Share your guidance?

@DD-pt9qw

2 күн бұрын

Brazil and Australia are not third world countries.😂

SHAMELESS TO INDONESIA. SAYA TINGGAL DI INDONESIA. TIM MEDIS INDONESIA MEMANG SANGAT BURUK, SUDAH BANYAK TERJADI KASUS KEMATIAN ATLIT DI INDONESIA. INI AKIBAT DARI BANYAKNYA KORUPSI DAN BUDAYA GAJI BANYAK TAPI BEKERJA SEDIKIT. ITULAH INDONESIA YANG SEBENARNYA

@dandruff3414

3 күн бұрын

This is an Indonesian ranting about how corruption and sycophantic behaviors are ruining the country. If you don't believe the perspective coming from a local, then you are welcome to be another statistic

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

@@dandruff3414 why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

@memble4100

2 күн бұрын

Di indonesia ini banyak yang rasis dan membenci orang china

@loverfrance

2 күн бұрын

The emergency rescue handling is truly embarrassing, and the death of this young person, the rescue team should bear at least 90% of the responsibility.

@ItsMe_An

2 күн бұрын

​@@memble4100lah kenapa lari kesitu kocak lu 😂 Gua yg di tinggal di Sumatra yg banyak chindo nya disini kaya nya aman aman aja tu chindo yg ada pribumi sering dimaki disini sama oknum chindo sombong Kaga ada tu gua ngerasisin org chindo karna gua tau kaga semuanya gitu Dan gua juga banyak temen yg chindo aman aman aja lingkaran pertemanan gua mana agama beda beda pula Apa lu setiap keluar rumah apa ketemu org pasti di Rasisin makanya lu bilang gitu?

What utter incompetence from the medics! Why didn’t they immediately start giving him CPR?!

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

do u do cpr when a person is still conscious? get hold of your self.

@genghiskhan6809

2 күн бұрын

@@keekengho-jq1qe Yes, you do CPR whenever a person is experiencing a cardio respiratory medical emergency even when they’re conscious.

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

@@genghiskhan6809 u have to go update your understanding on CPR and or Aed. This to ensure if in future u happen to have such situation the person that u might be saving have better chance of survival and u have less one legal case.

@Han-ot2ll

2 күн бұрын

@@keekengho-jq1qewhat do you mean “get hold of yourself” the kid literally died

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

@@genghiskhan6809 Please check again with the doc on this point.

17 only. Too young. Deepest condolences to the family. My heart goes out to those who love him & those he love. Really too young, rest in peace.

@wilsont1010

3 күн бұрын

And also in advance to those who have the same underlying cause that may be happening over the next couple of years.

@falconeshield

2 күн бұрын

​@@wilsont1010Vaccine conspiracy spreader here. If whatever these guys say it's true a loooot more people would've died during lockdown, not now post 2022.

bro asking for permission to help a dying person is literally a heinous act to commit shame to the ref!

@sansan3744

2 күн бұрын

Shame to Indonesia staff

Disgraceful! A permission is needed to help a person with medical emergency.

Rest in peace Zhang Zhi Jie, my condolences

The tournament organizers let the boy and his family down. Pure incompetence.

I am puzzled. Fall down with head facing down is clear indication something terribly wrong happened. People around should go forward disregard the court rule. Anyway, I am not expert. Hope every party learns from that.

@HerichoTimpati

3 күн бұрын

Bahkan anak muda itu meninggal 10 jam setelah jatuh tersungkur

@wilsont1010

3 күн бұрын

Common sense does not apply in every country.

@andyng5321

2 күн бұрын

​@@HerichoTimpatiyes but had he received early intervention things might have been very different

@andyng5321

2 күн бұрын

He didn't break his fall either, that is a very big sign that it is cardiac arrest

CPR should have been initiated then and there, the time on the stretcher without a cpr just added to the insult on the heart. Badminton rules need to be changed a lot. They are unnecessarily strict and umpires are like gods as if they cant make a wrong decision, and yet they are always said to be right. The medics who came did not know what to do. Action should be taken against all officials conducting the match. they were more bothered about maintaining pin drop silence and "discipline" on the court rather than starting the CPR. Maybe this boy would have been alive had he received the CPR on the court.

@ahmadganteng7435

2 күн бұрын

MEDICAL PROCEDURE DOES NOT ALLOW CPR OR AED APPLIED TO PERSON THAT STILL HAS HEARTH BEAT.. You see that the player still moving when medic come to handle him..

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

@hornet_2881

2 күн бұрын

​@@ahmadganteng7435Dude, the body limping is already a sign of Cardiac Arrest.

@infodiff

2 күн бұрын

@@ahmadganteng7435 From the paddles also you can see the heart rhythm and manage many conditions before the heart stops beating. Why you want his heart to stop beating and then jump into action.

Don't play in those countries that speak bird languages. They emergency medical services are extremely poor.

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

then there is no where on earth u can play then. get hold of yourself.

@arunanarina1316

2 күн бұрын

I'm Indonesian And I agree with you

@meegssan5716

2 күн бұрын

what are some other bird language countries lol need to know

@Lavasparked

2 күн бұрын

​@@arunanarina1316bro he's being racist towards our people and you agreed???

@User-sk5zf

2 күн бұрын

@@Lavasparkedyes, cause as you can see, Indognesia is incompetent.

scary to be in that country if a medical emergency happens yikes.

@meegssan5716

2 күн бұрын

yep. your chances of being resuscitated really just depend on you and you alone

dam, this brings back memory of a famous celebrity in china that was known for being fit and healthy. the guy also suffered a heart attack because he was on a show running around obstacles at night time.

@tangt4860

3 күн бұрын

Pitiful Godfrey Gao - CCP always destroys the most promising Chinese.

@lyhthegreat

3 күн бұрын

i thought that guy was taiwanese?

@mira-uf1ie

3 күн бұрын

​@@lyhthegreatHe was active in other country no? The channel was Zhejiang TV if I am not mistaken.

@Luming-di9rf

3 күн бұрын

@@lyhthegreat Taiwanese-Canadian Godfrey Gao.

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

the Taiwan celebrity

This was incompetence what nonsense to wait for the referee permission

Poor guy, at 17 yrs old he experienced cardiac arrest 😢😢 If I were his opponent I would immediately approach him and check his condition

The referee killed that child

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

Who needs referee's permission when someone has a Medical emergency. Is a badminton game more important than a human being's life.. this is really sad. The committee should look into the negligence that occurred here to safe guard and prevent such instances. May his soul rest in peace. 🙏😞

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

@keekengho-jq1qe

2 күн бұрын

Where did u here this fake news

They didn't need the ref's consent to administer first aid. That is just bs. In many motorsports events, you do need to coordinate with the marshals as the track is a dangerous place. They are calling this the Day the Badminton Died.

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

This is really sick. That talent could have been saved with CPR. I live in Indonesia and honestly I am not surprised with the incompetence of the local medics. It hurts!

@andyaocean

2 күн бұрын

His coach didn't check how he was doing before the game. if he had a history of illness from the start he should not have played against Japan. it was purely the coach's fault selecting him as the main match of the tournament. This has nothing to do with medicine in Indonesia, in fact it all complies with the SOP rules in badminton tournaments.

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

@andyng5321

2 күн бұрын

​@@andyaoceanincorrect. He might have an underlying condition that no one else knew about. That is why screening is made compulsory since 2012 in football after a similar case happened

Can’t hold back my tears😢he’s just a kid in my eyes😭his father passed away many years ago. It’s unimaginable how heartbroken his mother and sister are💔

He could have been saved. 100%. SHAME ON INDONESIA.

@hafizilmi7255

3 күн бұрын

Yeah shame on our medic, but don't you realize even the Chinese couch didn't even help

@abc2390986

2 күн бұрын

He literally stopped moving in 10 seconds. Let’s face it CPR probably could not help much.

@Whatisnottaken

Сағат бұрын

​@@hafizilmi7255 You must be joking. Unless the coach is also a medical doctor, what could he possibly do to help? Now even the medics were hesitant and didn't know what to do. They were simply not trained to recognize the symptoms and to carry out emergency procedures.

rest in peace, so unfortunate

- Delay because permission was needed to enter the court - No CPR... No defibrillator.... No checking of the airways/pulse... what kind of medics are these??

As an Indonesian, I am very embarrassed and sad about this incident. It is very embarrassing, for an international sporting event the medical team is unresponsive, slow and looks incompetent 😢

A player while playing suddenly falls on the face & unable to get up. You need permission from anyone to give medical treatment to that person?

Sad to hear this. Condolences to his family and friends. May he RIP. 🙏

So sad to watch this. What a tragedy. RIP and condolences to his family and friends. Watching from Somalia.

Ridiculous how slowly they attended to the young man. RIP

Badminton is actually a very intense game. Many in their 40-50s collapse during games. Those with heart conditions should be wary.

In the UK, the medics would have been straight on him right away with debrilliator to save his life

My goodness this is very sad indeed such a young person 17 years😊 just starting real life in reality. My condolences to his family , to his Coach and to his friends. Rest in Peace young fella. From Australia. 🌻🌹☘

He had a bright future ahead, it is heartbreaking to witness this tragedy. My condolences to his family, rest in peace young talent

Imagine you need permission to save someone's life🤓☝

No immediate CPR done!!

Deepest sympathy and condolences on this tragic loss of an amazing player

"Hi referee. Can we interrupt the match to save a literal dying child. Pretty please 🥺"

Rip 💔

My condolences to his family. It must be terrible to watch your son die at the tournament.

My sympathies to his family, they must be devastated. Wishing them comfort at this tragic time 💐💐

Oh my goodness that poor young boy! This is horrible! My heart goes out to hi family.

the family should take this into court and sue bwf, and this indonesian organiser should be punished. the other player was standing there like bruhh.. at least shout for help?? the boy is literally dying..I would do cpr right away. the face of the person talking really lack of empathy, he's literally happy delivering the news..

@sansan3744

2 күн бұрын

Agree

I'm honestly more concerned about how a 17 year old could have a heart attack in the first place.

@dandruff3414

3 күн бұрын

Overtrained. Something similar also happened to an Indonesian young martial art athlete a year ago. Poor kid. He could have great futures ahead of him

@froggyinchina

3 күн бұрын

maybe taking illicit drugs to enhance performance , won t be surprising

@andyaocean

2 күн бұрын

His coach didn't check how he was doing before the game. if he had a history of illness from the start he should not have played against Japan. it was purely the coach's fault selecting him as the main match of the tournament. This has nothing to do with medicine in Indonesia, in fact it all complies with the SOP rules in badminton tournaments.

@dizzykillz

2 күн бұрын

Vaxx

@thechessguru9029

2 күн бұрын

@@dizzykillz 100% agree.

So young. What a tragedy 🙏

My deepest sympathies to this young man's family, my heart goes out to you. 🙏

The WADA should investigate.

Poor lad, I feel sad watching this. RIP

Deepest sympathy and condolences to the family on this tragic loss of an amazing player

you see? what a soul it's because they trained hard to make there COUNTRY PROUD... REST IN PEACE

@megalithvelikan780

2 күн бұрын

Yes

@abc2390986

2 күн бұрын

They turn fine people into soulless machines to compete with free women and men who are just talented in sports for medals as some fool pride to sport wash the regime.

Heart screening programme should be made compulsory to all athletes who participate in such intense sports.

@Eric-yi2yl

3 күн бұрын

He's a professional athlete, his heart is most likely stronger than ours. I'm not educated in terms of medicine, but i think a screening wont help much More importantly is to find out what caused the failure of first-aiders to act and the lack of cpr+aed, and how to fix those problems

@RespectOthers1

3 күн бұрын

@@Eric-yi2yl That’s not always true. A few footballers have had to retire because their hearts were found to have defects after such screening.

@wilsont1010

3 күн бұрын

That seems to be useless in the post COVID.

@HPPKC

3 күн бұрын

@wilsont1010 what are you talking about?

@ThomasHarrison-er2zr

3 күн бұрын

@@HPPKC look up the correlation between the corona vaccines and myocarditis and pericarditis.

Rest in peace

I can't believe how no one is helping this guy among a thousand people and it's even on cameras in the very public. RIP 😢 I'm teared up and felt loss

As soon as the player collapsed, it was the delayed medical response that already killed him. We've seen people who've suffered cardiac arrest but received immediate CPR and medical response make recoveries, such as that player from NFL last year who collapsed during a game. The decision to not help him immediately sealed his fate. What medic waits for permission to help a person?

Obviously, no well-trained medical staff at the event. If it were arranged in Thailand, such loss will never happen for sure 😢😢😢

@manusiabumi421

3 күн бұрын

I'm Indonesian and I agree. I doubt they are even professionally trained, they don't even know what to do, they don't do CPR immidiately, and they don't have AED. I just hope BWF can ban Indonesia from organizing internayional competition for sometime, until they can fix its paramedics problem, it's for our country own reputation.

@hafizilmi7255

3 күн бұрын

Nah, Thailand just same level as Indonesia

@andyaocean

2 күн бұрын

His coach didn't check how he was doing before the game. if he had a history of illness from the start he should not have played against Japan. it was purely the coach's fault selecting him as the main match of the tournament. This has nothing to do with medicine in Indonesia, in fact it all complies with the SOP rules in badminton tournaments.

@andyng5321

2 күн бұрын

​@@andyaocean stop misleading others

@josephtan141

2 күн бұрын

@@andyaocean dense? kzread.info/dash/bejne/mGaZyLCGYtfQldY.html it took 40s for the medic to arrive in a badminton field while it only took 20s for medic to cross a whole football field. If this is sop there is something wrong with either the sop or the referee. How did u know he has a underlying condition? You are delusional enough to ignore video evidence and start finding excuse for the poor emergency response of this venue. Literal joke. How would u feel if ur family member is the one having heart attack and everyone else is blaming him/her for underlying heart issue.

dump referee + dump medic = Dump

It is situations like this that exposes the incompetence of people at all levels. RIP.

Condolence to Zhang Zhijie family from Malaysia. RIP

Has this player taken the C19 vaccine?

@Tasmanaut

3 күн бұрын

obviously

The other player also stood there on the other side of the court. No one rushed to his aid... what the f is wrong with today's world

@galihpratanda4546

2 күн бұрын

why are there so many comments that vilify a country as big as Indonesia just because a Chinese athlete died fighting a Japanese athlete on the field... it is clear that this is a BWF regulation, not based on a team of medical officers... it would be better if the Chinese athlete just gave up if fighting Japan instead of cornering Indonesia is very ridiculous, this communist

@falconeshield

2 күн бұрын

In his defence it's not everyday you see a fellow teen suffer from cardiac arrest. Maybe he froze not recognising the symptoms.

@LeraEluna

2 күн бұрын

He definitely wanted to help since he looks restless and coming nearer but the referee stopped him

I’m so sorry to the family. RIP young man

This is sad. It happened to a friend of mine when he was twenty. There was no warning. 😢

Was he vaccinated?

This is very scary I'm the same age as him and paranoid about my heart

@CoolNumber1

3 күн бұрын

Drink more water lol. He proabbly overheated

@bradfors6872

3 күн бұрын

Hope you didn't take the vax.

@alexandrahalvatzoglou8185

3 күн бұрын

The divine concoction...

@wilsont1010

3 күн бұрын

It will be scarier when you know about what causes this.

The Indonesia organiser should be condemn for such poor first aid rendered to the victim, those precious mins lost! The poor guy could have been saved!

Why do you need the permission of referees to do your job as a medic? You know, as a medic, that in saving a life EVERY SECOND COUNTS! This sounds like an excuse to throw the referees under the bus for their incompetence.

Seems like an undiagnosed cardiomyopathy.

I was just reading this on BBC literally 1 minute before; So sad for the young man. RIP

My condolences to his family, friends and teammates. Only 17 that is so young.

The fact that I play badminton and aiming to be an athlete like them breaks my heart. I have a strong love for this sport and I would never ever want to stop playing if possible.. he probably had the same thought, what a disappointment from the paramedics. 😢

Indonesia failing like always