1:30 - Impressed a clone's packaging has decent English for once.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, so was I and not only decent English but also very good advice.

@ChristopherSobieniak

6 жыл бұрын

Retro Core Certainly important to plenty I know who watch anything full frame that way.

@kinorai

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Sobieniak IMPURESSUVIRRUUU!

When Chinese knock-offs are better than AtGames.

That English on the package! Not only was some effort put into producing that machine, but also into making the package informations understandable. Surely one of better (or at least most promising) knockoffs you reviewed. And a great work on your part, as always.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, The World. Yes, I was surprised by the quality of the English and the actual advice given. All good quality advice.

The English on the box is...not butchered. Dafuq? It's a world gone MAD! And for under $50. Not bad!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Good English and good advice.

@SomeOrangeCat

6 жыл бұрын

Retro Core I am stunned.

@SianaGearz

6 жыл бұрын

Well it's slightly wonky English, like a missing coma here, weird sentence structure there. On the level that could conceivably be produced by a native English speaker, but certainly not by a professional technical writer.

It's really worth mentioning the last point of the back of the box, that says that the game save file isn't stored in the console (like in newer systems) but instead it's stored in the cartridge itself... and if the game doesn't save you have to check if a store offers a battery replacement service. Pretty awesome advice, being a chinese knockoff!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I was laughing when I read that as I'm sure many new people to 16 bit gaming wouldn't understand the concept of battery back up games. Great advice all-round on that box.

Does the headphone jack output stereo audio? I know those model one Genesis would only output stereo from there, so this could be a similar thing. Great video, love your stuff!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not. This machine only outputs mono from every option.

Thank you so much for making this video! it was great seeing how this thing works.

I need this in the U.S. AT GAMES needs to go out of business

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%

@petirgarda1005

6 жыл бұрын

So True!

@vincentp98

6 жыл бұрын

may i add hyperkin ? each of their product looks like crap

@BrightSpark

6 жыл бұрын

The Hyperkin USB 6-Button Megadrive pad is good tho IMO, I used mine to play Sonic Mania.

A knockoff better than a licensed product! Who would have thought about it? Certainly not ATGames.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

AtGames are a joke. Sega should revoke their license to produce Mega Drive clones as they are really giving Sega a bad name.

Digging that Midnight Resistance music track.

Nice review. I have the Atgames one from last year and I love it. Everything looks great and sounds great🍺🍺

Another great video, keep up the good work, greetings from FL USA

@odeiup

6 жыл бұрын

bart dunbar I'm also in Florida... I'm on the toilet

@bawitback

6 жыл бұрын

also in FL

@Tailslol

6 жыл бұрын

this is how a review should be,to me this is a perfect review. and a really good clone,good work! way better than at games,especially with a everdrive or a 112 in 1 cartridge,so yes thx!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks bart dunbar and thanks for watching.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tailslol

Nice video man. Congratulations. There is SNES hdmi clone from Retroad. Hope you can grab one of those and review it.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up on the SNES hdmi clone. I wasn't aware of that. I'll have to see if I can track on down for a review.

Mark, I didn't even know about Outrun 2019 until I saw this video. I love the original, so I just got my copy of Outrun 2019 yesterday. So, thanks!

@RetroCore

4 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is I didn't know about it either. I have a cartridge of the beta version when it was originally Junkers High. I was very surprised to find out it was released as an out run game.

@jeff97ish

4 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCore It's a fun game!

Thanks for the video, Maybe I will order one for my collection :D Love to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles on HDMI :D

Great video thanks for the review! Did you give 32x games a shot on it?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid the 32x will not work on this machine.

Thanks for sharing this! I cannot help but wonder if the case lid could be used to replace really scratched up original Megadrive cases - there are some aweful ones out there. I might buy one of these to see what hacking could be done - I am also wondering if the controller receiver part on the PCB (assuming seperate IC) could have its PCB section removed from the board and wired up to a proper Megadrive in order to re-use the wireless controllers in a real Megadrive embedded within that new case. The case does look like an exact repro of the original with regards to the screws, buttons, slot, controller ports etc. Very interesting!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Te case is mostly likely interchangeable with a real Mega drive case. I've not tried it but everything does seem to be in the right place. The controller circuitry is indeed separate so it could be used in something else.

I do have to admit Mark, it does look like a well built unit. The controllers look sturdy as well. I might put this on my want list seeing I was pretty impressed on what it could do. Well done as always Mark. Thank you. Anthony..

Great review. Nice ROM Pack you have on the EverDrive too! :D

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I will mark this video so i get that console later, it seems quite good!

I actually bought this from your link and it's actually better than I had hoped, The only thing I've noticed in the negative is in the second level of Ranger X the transparent beams of light are missing, but apart from that it's my most played console now. Oh and the pads are a bit clacky, promised I wouldn't use them, I use them all the time now :).

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Hey, glad you liked the recommendation. Too bad about the small issue with Ranger X though.

Great review! Looks pretty good. It would have been interesting to see what components are used etc, too bad you didn't open it up.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry man. Need to sell this item on once the video is made.

A very informative video. Well done Glen Glen's Retro Show

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Glen. Much appreciated.

@GlensRetroShow

6 жыл бұрын

Retro Core well deserving a watch and sub

I know you're legit cuz you picked some of the best Mega Drive tunes to demo. Bummer about the muxed audio. Did you try the front headphone port for possible stereo?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, most so called knowledgeable channels would probably just choose Sonic or some crap like Desert strike to demo the audio. Sadly the headphone jack also outputs in mono.

@KarcusKorpse

6 жыл бұрын

So true man! I mean...Vapor Trail..that one is bad ass! Also using Thunder Force IV for the sound test.... That's class right there! Good job on the video man!

@hikaruk.981

6 жыл бұрын

In general, I find Hellfire to be another good game to use to test the sound. It seems like most GOAC clones (maybe all?) run Hellfire's music at half-speed, like a Model 2 Genesis would.

@Bro-cx2jc

5 жыл бұрын

I would try Sonic and Raiden Trad for the synchronization and individual channel quality, and perhaps show the Password Screen soundtrack from Mean Bean Machine for overall quality of the FM channel. The PXP3 uses the same processor as the AtGames device, but its audio isn't mushy at all; it's just mono, missing parts of the FM, and pitched down incorrectly (not fixable by cartridge or SD card). Otherwise its bass kicks butt and it has excellent percussion. On a PXP3, enter the Mean Bean Machine game and choose "continue". Listen to the music on that screen. Fantastic, compared to its horrible counterpart on the AtGames devices.

Have you tried the front audio port to see if stereo sound comes thru it.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, sadly it's also in mono.

@bhirawamaylana466

6 жыл бұрын

LoL so in the end this console only use mono not stereo

@TorutheRedFox

6 жыл бұрын

it seems to do a shoddy job at mixing stereo down to mono

@jamesccart

6 жыл бұрын

Retro Core hi so is the sound mono over HDMI as well ?

@user-pi5xz5je4y

6 жыл бұрын

jamesccart Yes.

Wow looks good... Does the HDMI support Stereo or does the system simply not have stereo at all.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

No, no Stereo from any port including the headphone jack.

Did you try the headphone jack? That was the original way to get stereo. Also wonderful review, I wouldn't mind getting this. Could you perhaps use Master system converter and 32x?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Mono sound form all ports including the headphone jack. 32x wish not compatable at all.

Funny thing is. I used to play my Sega Genesis in mono back in 1990. I seem to remember it having only one RCA audio connector in the back. I had to use a 3.5 mm headphone jack to stereo RCA cable plugged into the headphone jack in the front to get stereo out to my Mom's TV.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

The real Mega Drive / Genesis had no composite or auto out on the back. You're probably thinking of the RF socket.

It looks good, sounds good and the manual is not in Portuguese or Spanish xD ,an interesting purchase!!!! Who needs a SPC700, when with a Yamaha YM2612 you can make a theme like Sortie of Gauntlet 4, I love the Megadrive..........and de Snes too,do not anger them xD Another great video Mark,thanks!!!!!! A greeting!!!!!!!!!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

+GameTrotter haha, yep, I'm so glad there was no Spanish or Portuguese this time round.

Leaves plenty to be desired, but an impressive knock-off anyway. It it just got the HDMI timing right and didn't mix the sound output down to mono, it would be a clear winner. If it somehow ran Virtua Racing and interlocked Sonic & Knuckes (not demoed, but these clones usually fail on that) and had a working Sega CD port, we'd have the Sega fan's dreams coming true. Thanks for the nice video, cheers from Brazil.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching Vinicius. I hear that this clone is better than the recent Tech Toy Mega Drive. I've not actually seen the Tech Toy Mega Drive though so I'm not sure how true those claims are.

Not bad. I put it on my alien press wish list. Hoping for a black Friday steal on it

Best review of this machine. Thanks. You convinced me to get it.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

As always you are bringing us interesting stuff. ..thank you !

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

+zombee38 thanks man. Glad you liked the show.

I am seriously considering getting this as a bedroom console as it does look rather good value, it's a shame about the sound being mono but apart from that it looks great.

so the sound through hdmi sounds just like through composite right? just hoping its just a conflict with the capture card

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Sadly the sound through HDMI even on the TV is in mono. The audio through the headphone jack is also in mono. Such a shame.

Thx Yakumo for reviewing - thats the piece of hardware I was waiting for to have a best possible original MD experience on my HDTV. My original MD looks crap with composit on my HDTV ... so I love the soluton ... good bye emulators ;) I already ordered a machine and cant wait to have it!1 Yes mono is not perfect, but the rest is stunning. But I think they don't will ship it to me with a Pal compatible powerunit ... so I think I will need an adapter ... but wait an see what power unit will be in. Cheers

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

The supplied PSU is 100 to 240 volts so all you'll need is a plug adapter :)

@xanafalgue5184

6 жыл бұрын

O.k., thats the easy way :)

Oh my god ! Buster's Hidden Treasure ! This game is my childhood, with Sonic 2 and Castle of Illusion :')

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I never had this game as a teenager but I did play the hell out of Castle of Illusion and Sonic. Both classics. I've been playing a bit of Tinny Too since recently and really getting in to it.

So does the HDMI work properly and it just didn't capture right, or does it have dodgy timing and audio on your TV as well? That is super important to know, you may want to clarify that in your video. Thanks!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Nope, as mentioned in the video the HDMI works perfectly on the TV. Capture devices normally expect perfect timing unlike a TV which is why it had issues.

An excellent review of a surprisingly good article!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Javier Bosch. I was so surprised that this is actually of good quality.

these knockoffs are endlessly fascinating

I was interested in seeing if this would be compatible with a 32x. I understand it's lacking the traditional plug so the original 9pin to 9pin wouldn't work, but would you be able to use a RCA to 9pin cable to attach this to a 32x and seeing if it would work? I'm disappointed in it not having the end connector for the Sega/Mega CD. But I feel it's overall a very impressive product.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

There's no way this would work with a 32x I'm afraid.

AWESOME BACKGROUND MUSIC @RETRO CORE ! MIDNIGHT RESISTANCE !

@VideoWare-ox9qv

3 жыл бұрын

what's the game sounding while Tiny Toons gameplay (before the Alisia Dragoon one)?

What a surprise! No lag, dang!

Great vid! Hmmm, I can't tell how many "bits" this console is. If only there was some kind of visual cue that conveyed the "bits" that were possessed by said machine had I could rest easy.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I was always wondering why the 16 Bit logo on the PAL machines was so small.

@Bro-cx2jc

5 жыл бұрын

Me too. You know, I'll bet it's covered up by that giant logo on the front...super annoying, isn't it?!

Thanks for confirming that the HDMI worked ok to the TV but not the capture card.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

No worries

this is how a review should be,to me this is a perfect review. and a really good clone,good work! way better than at games,especially with a everdrive or a 112 in 1 cartridge,so yes thx!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, Tailslol. Glad you enjoyed the review.

I may have missed this but did you check if the headphone jack was stereo or dule mono?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, everything on this system outputs in mono. the Headphone jack, HDMI and the Left and Right phono jacks at the back.

@dylbob9000

6 жыл бұрын

thats a shame, i wonder if they are aware there is a market for the perfect HDMI SEGA. I bet this thing would be a hit in Brazil. If it was compatible with the SEGA CD add-ons it would be a dream

Love the Devlish Music in the background.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Devilish has some really nice tracks on it.

Was there any option for scanlines on the system, or did you run it trough the Framemeister?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

No option I'm afraid. I am running this through the Framemeister but I had the scanlines switched off to give a more true image.

looks solid.. is there any controller alternatives on it? since it's rubber tend to breaks easily..

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

You can use official Sega controllers with it and probably 3rd party ones too. I've only check the official counters though.

@MrPlatipusbiru

6 жыл бұрын

maybe some other wireless 3rd party controller that also run on 2.4G? old official sega controller might has aged, and the knockoff sega controller mostly are bad quality built

I'm curious if the headphone jack is in stereo?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

It's also in mono I'm afraid.

Great console.Do you know if the everdrive cartridge will work in a Sega Genesis model 2, not MD,just regular Genesis model 2.Thanks, Great video.Gio.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, it will work fine on an official Mega Drive 2.

@gio048

6 жыл бұрын

Its not a mega drive,its a regular Sega Genesis model 2😃😃

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

No problem either way 😊

I'm guessing..... No well, I'm 100% sure this is the system you told me about in your last reply to me. Looks interesting! I am impressed on how well it seems to play mega drive/Genesis games! Honestly, I think they should have included an SD card slot as well, it would skip the need of having a EverDrive. Like I think they should have slapped an SD card reader or USB port under the expansion slot cover! (Since nothing else is there) I'll maybe wish list this system, but if I find a little extra jingle jangle in my pocket, I think an EverDrive would be better money spent! (Since I don't have one yet) Besides I still got my old Genesis hooked to a old tube TV I kept, nothing will beat the picture from an actual tube tv anyways for these classic systems! But, this system does have my attention!

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

If you do go for this system make sure it's the later revision as that does have real stereo sound via the HDMI and headphone jack unlike this one which is completely mono.

It's interesting, where did you buy it? ;)

What's is funny with this kind of system is that the hdmi output need some computing power for conversion who is more powerful them the mega drive.

I wonder, have you tested the headphone output too? Usually this one should be stereo out. It was on the original and was for many the only way to get stereo sound out of it when the own TV set was only Mono. Heck, my first TV was mono too and when I hooked my headphones to the Mega Drive and played some of my games it blew me away how much better it was in stereo.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, every output is mono, phonos/av, HDMI and the headphone jack. Seems that the system chip is wired up for mono only.

@KRAFTWERK2K6

6 жыл бұрын

Aww too bad. Well i think it's easy to assume that sooner or later a revision will pop up that will have eliminated that minor flaw. Heck, at this point it is better than nothing. So i give them that.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I hope so. When it does ill be sure to try it out.

Fantastic review, you basically covered every little thing :) I'm surely wanting to buy this, but I just ordered a Sega Pocketgame device and it ate up about the same money this thing will...so I'm going to wait a while before making this next big purchase! ...Never mind, I just caved and bought it. My money's steadily increasing these days and I know I can go a bit crazy XD

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed that your Sega device is a good one. The Mega Drive knock offs are quite often awful although there are a few good ones out there.

@Bro-cx2jc

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Retro :) you make it fun to learn about these things. With my adapter I can even play this HD thing on my CRT computer monitor. Although I did see another video about this device claiming its HDMI wasn't bad the way the one in this video is, so I'm gonna hope I get one of the good ones! Not sure why some people would roll their eyes at composite being included with this one. It's a great fallback, especially how you showed it worked well when HDMI didn't, and it's just like TVs nowadays having composite legacy ports. Though that has pretty much been phased out already...RIP

@Bro-cx2jc

5 жыл бұрын

It's great!!! I can't believe how fast I got it. Just one week! Yeps: 1. It included the 18-in-1 cart, which is always a good time. Though that's a Japanese cart, not fitting into my real Genesis...but who needs to use that when I've got the Retroad HD Genesis, eh?! 2. The wireless controllers are cheap and light of course, we know that, but they work flawlessly! Once I got a screwdriver and got the back off, two AAAs later and it's a great experience. The D-pad feels even better on these than on a real Genesis controller; it rolls more smoothly. The P2 controller is fine too; me and my friend David can race along those Sonic 2 VS tracks once more :) 3. Even though the edge connectors grip hard, and you have to insert AND remove a game carefully, I adjusted to doing it so there's no problem. I can confidently insert and remove any game without fear. It might as well not even be an existing issue. 4. The sound is pretty good. The PSG channel plays a bit louder than it should, but not alarmingly, and my TV's equalizer easily fixed the "flat" sound of the audio. Nopes: 5. The headphone jack outputs modest volume at best for external speakers; for headphones it's loud enough, but only just, at top volume. When I used a 3.5mm to RCA audio port for the TV to see if it would slightly enhance the sound, I had to turn my TV up to max volume and could barely hear anything still. This was with the headphone jack volume slider at the top too. 6. The HDMI, while certainly better than composite, is only somewhat better for my TV. It might just be the TV itself, but the quality isn't as crystal clear as I'd hoped. It doesn't help that, while on HDMI, my TV can't go to 4:3 mode. But now I'm using the composite ports on my EDTV, and it's even better there (like with the audio as well) and the video is impressive considering composite cables. 7. The RCA jacks are pulled into the unit, not sticking out; this is an advantage for storage sometimes, but it prevents me from using most composite cables. Only the kinds that have those little "fins" sticking out very far can be used. Good thing a nice long set of these was included. Bonus: I didn't know there were over 40 built-in games on this darn thing!!! I don't even need my Sonic Classics cart to play Sonic The Hedgehog 2 with David XD

i just found it online but theres a ton of it, they say it has built in games inside, do your megadrive have built in games too?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

No, mine has no built in games. You see, in Chinese they rip off other rip offs! So, mind was an original clone but now there are many cloning that clone. Quite often when this happens the quality really drops.

Thanks for the video, great, could you tell me if Everdrive X7 works?

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I know the Everdrive X5 works because I own that one so I guess the X7 should also work.

@marcomkx

5 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCore I heard that the X7 does not work, but I'm not sure, thanks for the attention.

That's so true, real retro gaming is in 4:3! nice machine actually, not a bad at all. Great vid man!

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

4:3 all the way for retro gaming. I have no idea why anyone would want to play games designed for 4:3 in 16:9.

What game is that Vapor Trail song from by the way?

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Hehe, it's from Vapor Trail :) in Japan it was called Kuuga - Operation Code Vapor Trail

That's awesome, since it looks identical to the original Sega Genesis / Mega Drive, I hope the original Power Base Converter will work with this.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

+Voan Siam hmm, it may do since the EverDrive does however I don't have one that I could try.

I noticed you mentioned that three and six button wired controllers work. Another advantage over the atgames flashback as it can't recognize three button wired controllers.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Really? Wow, now that is a surprise. No issues at all with this machine.

This looks a decent system. Does it output stereo through headphone jack?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Nope, mono all the way.

Please do always be aware of your own sound quality, which has enough grains to feed a horse. So by the time sound goes from your mouth and to our ears/headphones, it's changed analogue and digital a few times (your voice needs a reduction in overall gain levels or noise compression or sound gate/limiter for those like myself watching on iPhone, which is another change.

So the HDMI out on it is ok? Got a bunch of normal ones but the HDMI and wireless tempts me

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

The HDMI works on the TV just fine however it's got a strange timing to it which capture cards don't like.

Du you have any experience with PAL region games on this one? Can you tell if a lot of them won't run?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

It will run PAL games that are not region locked. So basically anything that didn't come in the blue box style cases. It may not play Konami or Capcom PAL games though as they were two of the first to implement the region protection.

@gorrbaczow

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the quick response. I just needed to know if most of my games would be useless with that clone, but now after checking them with what you said I have only 10 or so that would be affected. The only one I'm really sad it won't run, is Pitfall. ...aaaand maybe Disney's Aladdin.

If you want stereo audio you need to mod the console with the mega amp for genesis goac systems, in this case the tct 6801

I wish there was something else I could use my rf controllers for. Ever since the console burned up, I don't know what to do with them and I don't want to throw them away; they were great.

Where is the background music from? It sounds like 'Midnight Resistance'...

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

It tells you at the end of the video.

I would love to have a proper megadrive mini from Sega some day. Thanks for a great video as always 😊👍

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe one day they'll do it.

@RediscoveringRetro

6 жыл бұрын

Nolasco They need to release a new cart based system. Yeah I know, no way as cheap as a DVD press but something with higher specs to support better sound / color palette and larger games. Backqards compatible aswell of course. I'd be in the queue for midnight release for that machine. A lot of indie games are retro-styled these days so why not.

@Nolasco.

6 жыл бұрын

Rediscovering Retro that would be great but unfortunately I don't see that happening, the best we can hope for is a build in games console from Sega in the same way of the Nintendo mini altho I have a feeling that all the fake/rip-off systems have damage the brand really bad but I think that if anyone can fix it it's Sega

Hello. Does the power base converter with it with a real sms game? Maybe it output stereo sound via de head-phone jack, can you check that? Thank you.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I don't have a power Base converter but since the ever drive works I think a power Base converter should also work. Sadly even the headphones port is in mono.

Fun fact... I was waiting for the update to the MegaSG to play Paprium without glitches and I tried it on one of these and it worked great!

@RetroCore

3 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

Are the top cases of the knockoff and the mega drive interchangeable? lol I'm curious.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

They should be. The molds seem identical.

Nice in-depth review, good work thank you

Even though audio is slightly off it's still really good compared to other clones. It uses a genesis on a chip design with a scaler board at too. Retrorgb speculates on his channel that it's upscaling composite video but I can't really tell without looking in person. At Games Gen/Mega HD uses emulation which is always a bad idea. Too bad it's mono but guess you can't win them all.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I can confirm that the HDMI is indeed just the composite video signal being upscale to 720p. It looks a little soft and has strange timing which is why my capture device was not liking the video signal as it requires a correct timing signal to run. The TV didn't seem to mind though.

The PSG sounds a little off but overall it sounds and looks pretty good.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. The PSG seems to have volume issues.

The main chip is almost certainly a TCT-6803, which is a GOAC (proper ASIC clone) AFAIK. The same chip is used in some of the recent handhelds with a direct LCD output, and these signals are apparently being fed to the HDMI chip. So, it could be using a true digital video connection from the main chip (finally), and it's great to hear that the audio is decent too. (EDIT: On second thoughts, it may still be a analog video coming from the main chip, as it does look quite blurry via HDMI?) I expect the compatibility will be quite high, as it won't be using crappy software emulation. Big shame about the mono audio though. I'll have to buy one soon, and see if it can be modded for stereo via HDMI. Does the headphones socket output in stereo btw? If not, then it's likely that the GOAC itself only outputs in mono, as it was intended for the handhelds. EDIT: Just saw your other comment about the headphones output also being in mono. That's a shame. (I see you got bombarded with that same question actually. lol.) The stuttering via HDMI via the capture card is likely the use of a slightly non-standard audio sample rate in the console. That may actually be fixable, assuming it's using a separate ADC to sample the analog audio from the GOAC.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

+ElectronAsh haha, yeah, everyone asked about the headphone jack. Makes me wish I had mentioned it on the video :p I think the chip only outputs mono but I'd like to be wrong.

@electronash

6 жыл бұрын

Retro Core Yep, I believe so too - I'm fairly sure the chip was really intended for the handhelds, so they scrimped on adding the outputs / DACs for stereo. I'm about to reply to Mr Ace above though, as he's an expert on the clone chips. hehe

Which games has the cart the was bundle in the package?

I think the sound is a little bit more "tinny" than my original MD1. But I'm also very impressed how good this sounds, mono aside. It did seem like the hdmi image was a bit softened. Would much rather have preferred razor sharp pixels, and possibly an option for scanlines. Do you plan to do a video on the atgames machine at some point too? ;) Personally I find that much more interesting because it's officially licensed. I would never buy one though given that it sucks. No surprises there. I was actually pretty impressed by the NES mini (well, after you fix the aspect and scanlines with a hack), the emulation is solid and the build quality is great. Sega really deserves a proper mini console done right :(

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid I wont be touching the AtGames system because they are ruining the Sega bran officially. These clones are also not helping the Mega drive brand but at least everyone knows they're not official. What's sad is this runs games better than the new AtGames system which is official.

@konsolkongendk

6 жыл бұрын

You're right. The best cause of action is to not support crap like atgames, and if no one buys them Sega will hopefully license the console to a more competent company some day.

Dam, that's near perfect. Had they made it stereo and dare I say it, able to play 32x and mega cd games also (via the ever drive or a sd card for iso's) then I think it would be a global smash.

when trying the virtual racing you did not change the setting to J from the o??

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

It was set to J for Japan.

@valhalla5261

6 жыл бұрын

I suppose conflics between Japanese games on a Chinese console are to be expected..ha ha

It's an interesting knock off I must say and does have its positives. These HD retro consoles could really do with a filter to enhance the visual effect even with the NES mini. I do play on wide screen but only using the legendary frame meister.

I know I'm late but dose this come with games built in?

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Nope, no built in games. That's why it came with the 16 in 1 multi cartridge.

There's a updated stereo version. I've got one over here. Oh, and it also works with PAL cartridge games too. And there are 150 top games build in (95% Russian text in the games, keep that in mind). Everything else it's the same, but it's says now "Retroad" on the lower-left corner of the box.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm aware of the updated model. I've been trying to get one for review but I've just not gotten around to it yet.

Well i guess the original MD didnt give stereo sound out via the video output only via the headphone jack, so in that regard its emulating the MD perfectly ;-). Mark did you try the HDMI or headphone sockets to see if they outputted stereo sound??

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, HDMI was used when playing directly on the TV but that was also in mono and so was the headphone jack unfortunately.

@BlockABoots

6 жыл бұрын

damn thats a shame, would of been almost perfect itf it had stereo audio, wonder if it could be fixed via software update. Where did you get it from anyways?

Even though you can buy a Mega Drive SD card adapter, and play Mega Drive cartridge games, I really feel they should have added some sort of USB/Card ports on the console.

Much much better than the latest Brazilian tec toy mega drive clone , which is in fact a at games disguised

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't understand why TechToy didn't offer HDMI out with that machine.

Did you try the headphone jack? see if that runs in stereo, unlikely but worth trying. I see a review on this clone system a week ago and they said that they liked it..

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

+Video/Computer Games-Played-today yes, that's also in mono I'm afraid.

Okay sp as far as the hdmi, I'm very confused. It looked and sounded bad when you demoed it with sonic, but thunderforce 4 looked and sounded good (outside of the mono sound) so what was up with sonic? I'm just confused.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Really? Sonic sounded normal to me unless you're talking about the stuttering audio section. That section was a HDMI feed. This machine doesn't like my capture device which is what caused the stuttering. All the footage shown apart from when I was pointing the camera at the TV and the stuttering sonic footage was via composite.

I purchased a Megadrive in 1998 from Target for 14 bucks. It had fallen behind the display case where it sat for 7 years next to a Menacer light gun. When the case was dismantled they were discovered and no one wanted it because PS One was the king of the year. I got to purchase it and the Menacer for 90% off. Still have it. Still works

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Wow, I can just imagine how dusty that must have been after 7 years behind the cabinet.

@josef7ark

6 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. You couldn't read the box. Leaky roof water and mice droppings messed up one side. Contents were in perfect shape though. Found a few games too. I made out like a bandit. I worked in Assets Protection and stuff got misplaced all the time. Every month we sweep the store for hidden merchandise. I would find clearance merch like games and electronics all the time.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Good to hear the contents was still in good shape.

Damn Shinobi III has a badass soundtrack. I've never played it.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

It's a pretty good action game with as you said a really cool bad ass soundtrack for the most part.

I would take the Mega CD Expansion Port cover off of the HDMI Knockoff and put it on my real Mega Drive as I need a replacement, and it looks like you do too.

@RetroCore

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, I'm fine. I have 4 Mega Drives but no actual Mega CD. I do have a Wondermega though.

Is it possible that this shell will accommodate the original motherboard? Maybe with some slight modification. I'm more excited to get this than the snes mini (which I'm not.. Disappointing release) would be fantastic to get a shiny new shell or two if the board fits.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, the original MD board will fit in to this case no problem. It's a perfect copy of the original.

@ChrisEbz

6 жыл бұрын

Retro Core that's awesome to hear! Thanks for the info :D Although I'm excited for the functionality this has, a second one couldn't hurt for just a shell replacement. Even at the price its worth it, considering an exact shell hasn't been made like this to my knowledge and it's been almost 30 years since it's release.(which is crazy to think about) Now the task of possibly replicating the Sega logo on the bottom right correctly.. Hmmm

I've noticed most Sega Mega Drive emulation devices seem to have issues with sound, even the most popular and well known emulation devices have sound which is not quite right. Even though the particular device shown in this video only has mono sound it is still more accurate than most other devices which often sound weird and horrible.

@TheDutyPaid

6 жыл бұрын

Clarence Boddicker the console had a very unique sound chip the Yamaha YM2612 That is why any other platform the games are played on, the sound is not the same.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. The Mega Drive sound chip is very difficult to emulate or clone. So with this unit sounding as good as it does (sadly in mono) it's a great step in the right direction.

@electronash

6 жыл бұрын

Retro Core A YM audio core for FPGA has been open source for many years now, and is already sounding pretty good... gendev.spritesmind.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1327&sid=7c4f13665dbd8f8c96b16b6b43cfafdc It's also been working fine with the Genesis / MD core from Grégory Estrade, which runs well, and has very good compatility (see his channel). The issue is that the minimum FPGA board required to run the Genny core with the YM core still costs around £50 or more, so many people will tend to brush off the FPGA stuff, or quickly mention the same old boring line "You could just use a Rasp Pi instead". lol A lot of people don't even seem to realise just how many retro cores are available already, and have been for some years. The point about the FPGA though is that once you get to a certain spec of board, it can also run tons of other retro cores, like the Minimig (Amiga), MSX, NES, Game Boy, SMS, Speccy, Beeb, Vectrex, Coleco etc. For a good few years, the only real option for that type of board has been the MiST board, but that has always been quite expensive IMHO (just over €200 now). Fortunately, a few months ago, Terasic released their DE10-Nano board, which is only around £115, but has more than 4 times the FPGA logic of the MiST board, HDMI output, but also a dual-core 800 MHz ARM SoC on the same chip. :o A friend of mine (Alexey) recently designed some cheap add-on boards for the DE10 which adds joystick ports, VGA / RGB, analog audio, and SDRAM. That enabled him to start porting the cores that ran on the MiST onto the DE10 Nano. It even has enough spare logic to fit an entire 486 PC core which can already run Windows 95, and has Sound Blaster support etc. :o

@Patrick2480

6 жыл бұрын

Even Dreamcast couldn't emulate the sound for the Genesis smash pack from 1999/2000 release.

@electronash

6 жыл бұрын

True, but we've come a long way since then. The YM chip (and PSG) are purely digital devices, and very well understood now, so the FPGA core versions are very good. There's nothing inherent that made the sound chips hard to clone, it just seems that they did a botch job of it on the common GOAC clones. The issue with the audio being at the wrong pitch on the Atgames stuff appears to be where they divided down one of the clocks too many times, so some channels appear to play at half the normal pitch. The Dreamcast is more than capable of emulating the sound of the YM chip, it's just another case of rushing some software to market that wasn't quite polished.

I wouldn't mind getting one of these to be honest. It's a good alternative to the Mega SG or the Megadrive/Genesis Mini. Unfortunately i noticed in many videos that the audio sounds incorrect sometimes, and i'm not talking about the Mono thing. The PSG audio sounds way too loud, and you can definitely hear it if you play Streets of Rage 2 or any game that uses the PSG audio at all.

@RetroCore

4 жыл бұрын

There is an updated version that has stereo sound and fixes the PSG, apparently.

@ccateni28

4 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCore really? can you link it?

i would have love to see more footage of the games from the hdmi output

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

So would have I. In fact I filmed about an hours worth only to find the audio was skipping due to the strange HDMI timing this system puts out.

A shame about the mono and lack of RGB. If they could crack that (and perhaps improve that build quality a "little bit!") I'd be quite a happy chap. Who knows, one day maybe? I might go for it though just for the 60hz.

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the mono audio is the only real let down.

Seems like the post office in China treats packages the same way their government treats dissidents. The near perfect English on the box is usually a good sign.

It's a miracle! Sonic sounding perfect! Nice job! I wonder if we could get it in Europe? In regards to Spanish vs Portuguese, the response from Brazil must be the worse, since we're used to Americans ignoring their neighbors. You're on the other side of world ;-)

@RetroCore

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, I'm on the other side of the world and have never been to the US or South America. I think I'm allowed a bit of slack on that mistake :) You should be able to use this machine in Europe as the PSU is 100 to 240 volts.