It's a great asmr video.

@nationofnoone846

5 жыл бұрын

@@vincereterram8150 No U

"Child Of Tree" is a work for amplified plant materials. The title is taken from a passage in "Finnegan's Wake" by James Joyce. The performer assembles various plant materials and amplifies them with contact microphones, phonograph cartridges, or any other means to make small sounds audible. The performer then improvises, but as Cage said; the plants are not known as are traditional instruments, so the sounds belong to them and not to the taste and memory of the performer. The sounds are, in my opinion, quite subtle and very beautiful. If one is not enjoying it one should go elsewhere, not make vulgar comments.

@vincereterram8150

8 жыл бұрын

GAyyyy

@dielfonelletab8711

8 жыл бұрын

+vincere terram oi it's homosexual

@maxnunnemaker5780

6 жыл бұрын

Or, one may choose to enjoy it with vulgar comments.

@marie-laurenceaubert6028

2 ай бұрын

❤

This dude hit the LSD pretty hard.

@woodlandcritterpunch

4 жыл бұрын

You don't have to be interested in an idea that's foreign to you, but you also don't need to automatically attempt to defend your ego by dismissing it as the product of delusory experiences.

@andremsz2249

Жыл бұрын

​@@woodlandcritterpunchthis guy was probably just kidding, calm down lol

@woodlandcritterpunch

Жыл бұрын

@@andremsz2249 it wasn't funny. nor was it original.

@andremsz2249

Жыл бұрын

@@woodlandcritterpunch ok, so just ignore it

The contact microphones were from Barcus Berry. There are three of them that I normally use for Table Music as well. I wanted microphones for this piece and Table Music and picked the right ones it seems. They are for piano I believe. There were also some guitar contact microphones to choose from. I spoke with a representative. I've had these microphones for about eight years now so I'm sure they have different styles by now. I wanted something that I could get to stick to wood and to a cactus!! Finding a cactus with an area large enough to put the microphone took a few trips to various landscape stores. But all part of the fun. These microphones are also the same microphones used on Svet Stoyanov's Concert Artist Guild debut CD with the extra Table Music DVD at the end of the disc. If you want the model I have, that's going to take some time. But I will say I was very happy with the product. Recorded both pieces with them, used them in Tokyo and all over the US. Take care of them and they are a good investment from a good company. Have fun whatever you do! Ph. Invest in some of that double sided sticky material about 1/16 thick used for those cheap plastic coat holders you can get at a big Department store. Used it for everything. Cuts easy but does not come off the microphones too entirely.easily so put it on gently and take it off gently. Don't use more than you need. Don't want to ruin the sensors. Cheers

@KevinDufford

10 жыл бұрын

Is this something or nothing?

Sounds like a rain forest if I don't look at the video and just listen. And still better than modern country.

@user-sv2oj5um1q

3 ай бұрын

Amen

There is something thats just so charming about this piece!

To say Cage's intention was to question what music is merely raises half the point, IMO. The other half of his intention was to question whether music was the best way for listeners to experience the sonic universe. He came to believe that it wasn't, and in many ways his compositions turned away from music and toward this wider universe. But, being a composer, he had to find ways of turning our ears toward that universe through "composition".

I listened to this before ASMR. Now I am back!

The sheer amount of negativity towards this is insane. This is a very well-performed piece, and one I'm considering for my recital this year. What's the difference between making noise with trees and plants than with drums and triangles? What's the difference between that and playing a polite major scale on piano? I commend you, Kevin, for supporting the work of John Cage, truly one of the most important musical thinkers of any generation, period.

it doesn't matter what you call it. it doesn't have to be music. it's sound. i think it's beautiful.

@justfuntimedoingnothing8477

Жыл бұрын

Well, there is some music in it. Still, I am happy to known is smart enough to give names to some obscure works like these.

This is far better than another version on You Tube that was completely silent but not in a 4:33 way

The I Ching is basically a way of forming a chance operation. That is a very short answer for a complicated subject. In the case of this piece the operation is used to choose instruments and determine the number of sections and how long each section will be. It is of Chinese origin. There is a great deal of information online and numerous books on the subject. Thanks for your comments! Good Luck!

@khbgkh Old music is obviously very important, but so is the music and sound art that happened for the entirety of the last century. It's pretty ignorant of anybody to dismiss an entire era or genre of music. I may not like Mozart, and I don't, but I recognize that without him I wouldn't have Beethoven, Brahms, Wagner, Schoenberg, Berg, Stockhausen, and yes, even John Cage. If it gets people to think about and engage in music then it is good for music, and that makes it important. Cage matters.

I find this very interesting. Its not what I'm used to. Good job. :)

Hi Joe, Thanks for your comments! It's really nice to get positive feedback. I believe I ordered the piece through one of two online percussion stores. 1. steve weiss 2. percussion source One of these stores will certainly have a score. Don't be afraid when you see the score because it is just basically written out instructions. I would start to do some research on the I Ching. That will give you a good foundation once the score arrives. Good Luck!

That stone sounds amazing. Not being sarcastic either, my favorite part of this piece.

Hey Well done i really want to play this piece and i have the score i just haven't given my self the time to sit down and decipher cage's scribbled out words. awesome job though! awesome piece

another beautiful composition of music. :)

@HxHenry Cage's -music- was, to him, just sounds. This was enough to constitute music, for him, and it's enough for everyone else. More importantly, it is not up to the listener to determine what is and isn't music. Kevin, Wonderfully performed. I really like the way the times worked out -it gave the piece the right kind of natural feel for the most appropriate instruments. I'm a fan.

Your music saved me

@420jaymac Indeed why not go for that walk? I am glad that you do not disrespect what he is doing. I just don't understand how his way of investigating the world in this way defeats the purpose. The purpose is not merely for Cage to have a private experience but a shared one. I am sure most people do not get close enough to a cactus to listen. The microphone shares and magnifies this little secret about them.

@khbgkh That's entirely true, but we aren't dealing with tonal music. Not a "tonality vs. atonal" kind of tonal, but actual pitches. There is none, so those rules are thrown out the window. This is just art, but using sound. I don't listen to this like I listen to Shostakovich, nor like I listen to Xenakis percussion music. It is its own thing, and either you appreciate it or you don't. I do, and I just don't understand where insulting it gets anybody.

beautiful

He invented asmr

When he takes the rock it looks like the first steps of the music in earth.

@420jaymac Perhaps this piece, as well as many others of Cage, serve as invitations to do exactly as you propose. I sympathize with the notion that experiencing these sounds in a natural environment is more effective. However, importing natural objects, and more "natural" listening behavior (as opposed to the listening behavior associated with being an "audience" member consuming an artistic production) may add something new to the artificial environment, and may suggest other additions.

WOW - where did you get that HUGE pod rattle? I am playing this piece now and would love to have a pod rattle like yours.

This is so refreshing. Just what I needed. You might also like: Burabampo by Strunz & Farah

did i block anyone? and i never use the phrase "LOL I DONT UNDERSTAND" sentences are a good start. sorry the piece annoys you. just don't listen to it. not to mention the people who agreed that what i said was warranted. just listed to something you can understand. please.

This song is damn catchy.

cool man. now there are 2 videos of this piece. But why you use toothpicks? I know this was an option in his instructions, but c'mon. When I did it, I used fingers....Harder to hear, but more natural, pure sound from the needles...cool

very nice. how did you amplify the cactus?

What kind of microphone is used? Contact mic? I'm wondering for the cactus specifically.

Can u mention what instruments were used in this work?

proto asmr?

@kevindufford mmmm I think it's frequnze emphasized during post production, or a scenic microphone very close to cactus

some sort of barcus berry microphone. get a cactus with big prickers and a lot of surface area so you can get the microphone on there with sticky two way tape. they certainly have new models so check out what they have and see what might work with your cactus. customer service was good so call them if you have any questions. be well and good luck!

i don't consider this minimalism. there's no real repetition of a theme or rhythm or melody. i consider this to be chance music. music based on a chance operation - in this case the i ching.

When I read some of these comments I'm ironically inspired to say, leave John Cage out of this. This "composition" is more a recipe for an individual to have a special experience, and to get to know the world -- through listening to, generally silent, objects. The piece is just a subtle little suggestion to listen, once again. At times, in this performance, music is suggested, or sounds are suggested for music's sake. Another suggestion: music isn't always needed.

hmmmmmmm

@lvo3617

3 жыл бұрын

are you a microwave?

How can you fund this and still maintain a living?

this guys gotta be on mushrooms

When I read some of these comments I'm ironically inspired to say, leave John Cage out of this. This "composition" is more a recipe for an individual to have a special experience, and to get to know the world -- through listening to, generally silent, objects. The piece is just a subtle little suggestion to listen, once again. At times, in this performance, music is suggested, or sounds are suggested for music's sake. Still, we don't need music to listen well.

Interesting....

he looks a bit like jerma

when and where did this take place

@khbgkh I'd like you to cite the sources of this "science" you mention.

John Cage is arguably one of the most prolific composers of the 20th century. But that's beside the point. The point was to question what music is. You just didn't get it. Just like you didn't get your guitar strings tuned on your guitar on the piece you are playing near what seems to be candles by a campfire. Post again and I'll block for good.

god help me I'd rather read a thousand toxic youtube comments than suffer seeing one more Big Brain Artiste comment on anything John Cage.

What is that thing he starts using at 6:56?

Could John Cage's works fit in the genre of Anti Art?

@joycedelrosario2218

Жыл бұрын

John Cage's works would also fit ASMR

ASMR

Composer or performer?

what did I just watch?

this is some asmr shit

When was this recorded? Cage looks incredibly young, but the quality of the film doesn't look that old...

@brianclevingermusic

7 жыл бұрын

It's not Cage performing

Mouth popping sounds

@alicelerobo I'll tell you the difference. Music composed with stable frequencies is much more psychologically engaging than this, and that is science. The tones in conventional music give very specific emotions, and even the slightest bit of reorientation of those tones changes the emotion you feel. However, he could have crumpled that plant at any time, scraped that rock, and flicked his needled any time, and it wouldnt effect the emotional effect.

@alicelerobo but that is my point. Cage is just a composer with some radical ideas, none of which impacted music in a way comparable to mozart. Very few people know John Cage's name, and even fewer know any piece other than 4'33" that he "composed."

Better than Justin Bieber

@HxHenry Why do you have to say stuff like that? Why do you have to say that something isn't music? Do you think you're defending the sanctity of music by what you're saying? You're not.

О! А это что-то шаманское? Это Кастанеда?

wierd, but there is potential. Give those guys that bang on trash cans a go at it. I bet they could do a much better job.

@jacoismyhero That's not the point. The point is when an artist is liked in extreme amounts, whether their fanbase is extremely small or extremely large, there are always plenty of extramusical reasons for their fame. John Cage has very few fans, and even fewer of those fans truly like his music. Many are fans of cage simply because it is different, and do not value it for its specific difference.

I did't say I don't understand it, I understand it perfectly fine. I was talking about you. You practically shat on a guy who had a different opinion than you on the music, and you should have explained to him what the significance of the piece is.

@kevindufford the questioning of what music really is does not make it good music. At music's simplest definition it is organized sound. The only pervading theme in this piece is the cactus, and I'm sorry, that's just not enough. Not to mention John Cage need not have a fully formed idea for his compositions, but just a vague notion that it might sound interesting to put a microphone on a cactus. This is pure novelty.

... So a doped-up dude messing around with stuff is considered music now?

@jOoomOooo

7 жыл бұрын

what do you mean now? this was written in 1975

@benjaminhellert8531

7 жыл бұрын

I mean some coked up douche bag with a guitar is country music

This is not music, sorry I'm not sorry

@jOoomOooo

7 жыл бұрын

once you realize all sounds are music your mind will open

@funnydude4567

5 жыл бұрын

try not being close-minded. It helps

@znul

9 ай бұрын

You can compare it to music, like how engines are music to people.

@alicelerobo Because the same people who advocate for this type of music frequently disregard old music as if it is unimportant, when in fact it is a million times more important historically and culturally than this little blip in music history will ever be. Because advocates of this "music" call it so, and in such a casual manner as to imply that john cage and the beatles are one in the same. The word soundscape is much more accurate than music in this case.

BULLLLLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEET

>John Cage is arguably one of the most prolific composers of the 20th century A man can produce a thousand shitty pieces and that doesn't make him good, although I'm not saying that about Cage. >Post again and I'll block for good Someone has a different opinion than you and you're going to block them? Wow. Not to mention you didn't even explain to him why this is music, you just said "LOL U DONT UNDERSTAND"

@markmo44 when something can be hugely popular within a very small niche, you completely destroy the meaning of the words just as john cage has destroyed the meaning of music. The compositional work that went into this could have been thrown together in 5 minutes. FIVE MINUTES. I love the sounds of nature, but let nature play her instrument, not this guy.