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Chevy Camaro 4th Gen | The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly…

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  • @markroden
    @markroden3 ай бұрын

    Forgot to mention this in the video but I’ve been making polls on my community tab to try and find out what car exactly you’d guys like to see me build next so pls go check that out and make sure to vote for what you want!!

  • @gentleg5182

    @gentleg5182

    3 ай бұрын

    Just get the camaro man

  • @SweatCookienese

    @SweatCookienese

    2 ай бұрын

    I dont know why you keep insisting that the Camaro is heavy?? They are only around 3400 lbs, with a V8, M6, Rwd, ect. They also have fiberglass panels. at 3400 lbs, with say 315Hp, thats a power to weight ratio of 0.093 hp/lb. Theyre thicc, not fat. BTW. a 2500lb 170 HP Miata is only 0.068 hp/lb. And Mk4 Supras were about 3400 LBS too. They wouldnt be used for drag racing if they were too heavy, lol.

  • @user-Dr.
    @user-Dr.2 ай бұрын

    Not here to argue, just set a few things straight, I never thought 3,300 pounds was heavy, my road racing 93 weighs 2,850 with a cage, on a road trip my Z28's will do over 30 mpg, decades ago the 93 through 97 were called the Maco Shark, Catfish came along 98 and up, they are among one of the best handling cars ever produced, don't have a clue where you got that info, I've been road racing these cars for over 30 years, they are as fast as anything produced today, one of the most durable and reliable cars money can buy, and as far as looks go that's a matter of opinion.

  • @SPARTANLuis067

    @SPARTANLuis067

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah I'm not sure if homie even did any research on these honestly. They're far from heavy, actually lighter than most pony cars today, and they're surprisingly great on gas. My '02 LS1 is getting like 31 on the highway, and even 16/17 in the city. Sure a 4cyl Camry is gonna do better but that's a very odd car to compare this to, especially today when everyone is driving trucks and SUVs that only get 20 on the highway anyway

  • @BlackRam17

    @BlackRam17

    Ай бұрын

    3300 is light af compared to todays pony cars.

  • @miiskoinc

    @miiskoinc

    27 күн бұрын

    I was going to say the exact same thing. What's this guy talking about lmao.

  • @DetroitMetroRetro

    @DetroitMetroRetro

    20 күн бұрын

    What i find funny is the 3800 v6 is one of the best engines ever made. If you want to call the 3400 or whatever other v6 options before 96 or 95 then sure but wow this video is not for me at all

  • @SweatCookienese
    @SweatCookienese2 ай бұрын

    FINALLY IVE BEEN CALLED ON! I drive a 2000 Trans Am, big ol LS1 with a 6 speed manual paired to it. Its my first car. I wouldn't trade my car for anything. They all need to be updated to LED's, new radio, some comfort stuff like that. But power wise, its phenomenal still, and its cheap, simple, and straight forward to make great power out of the car. The chassis is solid too, slides when ya want, grips when ya need, they're just awesome cars. GET YOU ONE! They're getting more and more expensive every day.

  • @jhonperez413

    @jhonperez413

    Ай бұрын

    How has your experience been with owning one as your first car I’m currently doing that as a 17 year old and I’ve had a lot of fun with it so far just stilling learning manual

  • @Cyathewolf
    @Cyathewolf3 ай бұрын

    I've always loved the catfishes! In my eyes they were never ugly.

  • @eastcoastken

    @eastcoastken

    2 ай бұрын

    Facts 💪💪💪

  • @noonecares7730

    @noonecares7730

    2 ай бұрын

    I prefer the precatfish 4th gen camaro, hard to argue with the ls1 though.

  • @BlackRam17

    @BlackRam17

    Ай бұрын

    @@noonecares7730ls1 with LT1 front end is goat

  • @sjx4082
    @sjx40823 ай бұрын

    Camaro 4th Gen the good bad and ugly corrections list. Ok. Im going to post this simply as informative corrections. The video had a lot of errors. Here is the breakdown. (A lot of these things apply to its cousin the Pontiac Firebird/Trans Am) Also please take a look at the 4th Gen forums, Ls1tech LTxTech. As mentioned the community is cool, not all of us are grandpas or old in general. (Im 31) The 4th generation Camaro is divided into early and late 4th gen’s. The early Camaros were not “catfish” Camaros. The 1993-1997 Camaros had recessed headlights and much more angular aggressive lines. These are the “shark face, shark nose” cars. 93-97 Camaros come as base models and Z28’s. 96-97 Chevrolet (in conjunction with SLP) also offered the SS model. Trims: 93-95 base models came with 3.4L V6’s 96-97 base models came with 3.8L V6’s (3800 series II) both offered automatics or T5 manuals. 93-97 Z28’s came with the 5.7L V8 (350ci) Gen II LT1’s with power ranging from 275hp (93-95) and 285hp (96-97) The 96-97 SS cars also had LT1’s and ram air pushed power to 305. All V8 equipped cars either got a 4L60E (93 got non electronically controlled 4L60) 4 speed automatics or a Borg Warner T56 manual 6 speed transmission. *** LT4 5.7L V8 engine was only ever placed into 108 4th generation Camaros. They are extremely rare, if you see one for sale, it is NOT real(jokes aside real ones are going to be in the neighborhood of $40-50k). 100 of these LT4 equipped cars were for the US market. 6 were produced for Canada, and 2 were designated test mules for GM. 330hp on these cars*** SIDE note: The 1997 cars were a bridge year and received the more popular interior update (1 useable flip out cup holder) held by the 1998-2002 cars, as well as the refreshed tail lights. The 1998-2002 Camaro’ YES THE ACTUAL CATFISH. Bulbous headlights softer front fascia, but more performance. Trims: 98-02 Base models all had the 3.8L V6 (3800 series II) 98-02 RS package cars were mainly cosmetic packages+ suspension bits for base model cars. Modifications came from SLP (street legal performance) 98-02 Z28’s 5.7L V8 LS1 (346ci) 305hp (98-00) and 310 (01-02) (underrated to not cannibalize C5 sales) 98-02 SS’s 5.7L V8 LS1 (346ci) 320hp (98-00) and 325HP (01-02) These also were offers with 4L60E 4 speed automatics OR with Tremec built T56 6 speed Manuals. SS cars from both early and late Camaros will easily be recognized with their Ram Air Hoods and raised rear deck lid spoilers. They also feature special suspension packages along with options for Torsen or Auburn limited slip differentials factory hurst short shifters etc. They also had special Wheels available “ZR1’s” 17x9 from 96-99 then “10 spokes” 17x9 2000-2002 4th generation Camaros could come as Hardtop, T-Top (NOT TARGA) or convertibles depending on trims. Side note: T-Tops are 2 removable glass roof panels, a Targa top is a SINGLE removable roof panel in either glass or some composite panel that matches the body composition. LT1 vs LS1 both made good power LT1 is more finnicky and requires more attention to detail and a hard core owner (see opti spark distributor system and ignition issues). Still a worthy option, IMO it sounds better and more aggressive than the LS cars. (Deeper tones) LS1 made more power its newer, parts availability is great, everyone knows how to work on them, it’s like building legos. They cost more than the early ones. See 98-02 vs 93-97. I’ve owned both. I know the realities of both. Issues: Interior is period GM, plastic, creaky, etc. it is what it is. They fit taller people really well. (I’m 6’5) Water pump issues were mostly 93-97 LT1 cars, (harder to work on). Not an investment. LS1 cars were $5k for forever LT1’s $3-4k. If you bought one back in 2008-2018, then yes you can sell 2-3x now if it’s not clapped. Don’t see them climbing much higher but hey take it as you will. (Yes I know show car stock ones are selling for $20-30k with low ass miles) odds are you don’t have one that clean. So most are 2-3x more than the prices listed above from. There’s more but this is already a novel.

  • @user-Dr.

    @user-Dr.

    2 ай бұрын

    Good job, I own several gen 4 LT1 Camaro's, I have never personally had a problem with the water pump or the opti, a couple notes, never use the hose under the hood, and if you replace the opti look up PETRIS, aftermarket ones are junk like MSD or ACCEL.

  • @Snooop-02

    @Snooop-02

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-Dr.another viable option for replacing the opti is to switch to a more LS styled system like torqhead

  • @BlackRam17

    @BlackRam17

    Ай бұрын

    Two things I’d like to add to the SLP cars; you could get the LT’s to 315 hp with the special SLP exhaust and the 02’s could be had up to 345 hp

  • @ETovar81
    @ETovar813 ай бұрын

    Holy shit you did one of the best cars ever made!

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    She a lil cutie fr

  • @87PontiacGP
    @87PontiacGP2 ай бұрын

    Few things I noticed if Im not too late to the party: -1993-2002 model year -v6 options were 3.4L v6 and then in 1995 there was the option for the 3800 series 2 v6 with the 3.4L engines. Then in 1996 the 3800 series 2 became standard --- the 3800 Series v6's were one if (if not the) most reliable engine GM made, and the modability for them is pretty damn good. -The one thing they were known to have problems with was the Optispark system, especially the early early 4th gens. -the rear ends were known to be a little weak with the 7.5/7.6 rear. (Same as my gbody, but with some mods, weren't too bad depending on power level) - 1/4 mile track times varied a bit depending on the stock rear end gearing, especially the later 4th gens -Later 4th gens were different with the z/28 and optional SLP SS' - The 4L60E trans were known to be a weak link, however could be built to handle the power. They were essentially electronically controlled th700R4's (i prefer my th2004r transmission in my Gbody) -I'd have to counter and say the chassis is pretty good for handling actually. The factory made 1LE 4th gens were a testiment to that Good vid though! Would have been neat to mention the 1997 LT4 engine camaros (really rare), or the late 4th gen ZL1 phase 1, 2, and 3 cars. Look forward to more vids!

  • @user-Dr.

    @user-Dr.

    2 ай бұрын

    I totally agree with you, good knowledge, every engine offered in these gen 4's were very reliable, very good handling cars, I've been road racing a 93 for over 30 years, I ordered it pre production for road racing, 222,000 miles of pure road racing, I am still using the T-56 6 speed that came in this car, and have never had it apart, still original, I cheat, I have used Royle Purple lubricants from day one, the T-56 has come to be known as the best transmission ever offered in a production vehicle, this car will run with anything produced today, one of the fastest cars on the track.

  • @87PontiacGP

    @87PontiacGP

    2 ай бұрын

    Right on! Those 1LE cars are a rare breed too. Definitely something special. It's awesome that you still racing it too. The T-56 is another bullet point I forgot to mention, it's a good transmission for sure, pretty iconic. Love these cars as much as my Gbody, and imo, better than a lot of tuner JDM or Euro cars that everyone is all hot and bothered over to mod and enjoy. Keep racing it though! Love hearing that

  • @milfordh.mercado2787
    @milfordh.mercado27873 ай бұрын

    Well, excuse me mark but you're wrong on the years of 4th gen camaro is 1993 to 2002 and 3rd gen are 1982 to 1992 so please take it as 'constructive criticism' not a rant ok young dude have good night bye now.

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Of course I’ll take that as constructive criticism haha I appreciate when ppl correct me in a respectful way bc at the end of the day, I do not want to spread misinformation

  • @milfordh.mercado2787

    @milfordh.mercado2787

    3 ай бұрын

    @markroden No problem mark just helping out here ok them bye now.

  • @fastgmc
    @fastgmc2 ай бұрын

    like a 3rd grader thats never kissed a girl giving a book report on everything he ever heard someone say about kissing a girl....

  • @crw3673

    @crw3673

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly! This guy is giving a review on something that he knows nothing about.

  • @peterpatrico4095
    @peterpatrico40952 ай бұрын

    I have a 1995 3.8L V6 and I love it. I’ve done a ton of research about the engine and it’s actually pretty reliable. Not trying to be like “well actually🤓” but I think they’re pretty reliable overall. Great vid

  • @cregberger4451

    @cregberger4451

    2 ай бұрын

    I definitely agree- Don't know where he got that idea from? 3.8L is basically legendary as far as being virtually bullet proof- AND it's stout enough to take some serious Turbo Boost right out of thew box. Plus add better weight distribution (for rally / turning performance) & that pesky "doesn't have good Fuel Economy" (V6's get around 30 MPG!) and basically if it's built right- It could possibly be the best overall deal & a killer racer. P.S. it seems to me, more and more- that the only people who "comment & complain" about the styling of this car are these nitch "Car guys": I had a 1966 GTO and I swear my 2000 Black RS (clone) 4th Gen gets more attention and positive comments from randos (almost daily). My advice? Ignore them 100%

  • @GMLOWK
    @GMLOWK2 ай бұрын

    He said a z28 comes only in LT1 wrong 98-02 are all ls1 homie

  • @crw3673

    @crw3673

    2 ай бұрын

    Classic youtuber know it all, that has the nerve to do a review on something he knows little about.

  • @mpmd6.9
    @mpmd6.93 ай бұрын

    Been watching the channel for a while now - this is a car I've been thinking about picking up so I'm looking forward to this one!

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Ayyy happy to help

  • @trickiestjet1079
    @trickiestjet10797 күн бұрын

    Gotta educate yourself on that 3800 v6 in there. They are pretty fire

  • @eastcoastken
    @eastcoastken2 ай бұрын

    93 to 2002, RS Z28 & SS are all you need to know about them. The 97 was the the 30th Anniversary and the 2002 was 35th Anniversary models. They are one of the greatest gens after the 1st & 3rd.

  • @user-Dr.
    @user-Dr.2 ай бұрын

    The 97 with the LT4 is a very special car, there were some engines left over for the 96 Grand Sport Corvette, so GM decided to put them into the Camaro's, if you have one of those, you are sitting on some money.

  • @michaelvargas8656

    @michaelvargas8656

    25 күн бұрын

    i have a 1997 camaro what do you mean by lt4 is that the engine ? i keep hearing people say lt1 so i though mine had that, is the lt4 better or worse ?

  • @user-Dr.

    @user-Dr.

    25 күн бұрын

    @@michaelvargas8656 The LT4 is a higher performance engine based on the LT1, too many modifications to list or even remember, it is the same engine that was in the 96 Grand Sport Corvette, you could probably look that up to get specs and see the changes.

  • @Changingtesting
    @Changingtesting2 ай бұрын

    My father owned one of these, he bought it directly off the lot in cash in the few days that it was released, it was black on black, manual, targa top, z/28 with a ls1(as mentioned in the video trim levels were all over the place.) he enjoyed it a lot, got a decent amount of looks back then and he won a decent amount of races. Unfortunately on the highway he was sideswiped by a speeding car that lost control, and he ended up hitting the center median and then that metal railing splitting the exit ramp from the highway. Completely totaled the life and cause him major health complication in the future (bulging discs in the back) After recovery and insurance paycheck he ended up buying an AMG which we still have today that is a weekend drive car.

  • @ateam8083
    @ateam80833 ай бұрын

    They didn't get the 3.8 until 1998 before that the base model had a 3.4 160hp engine

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Didn’t I say that in the vid?

  • @crw3673

    @crw3673

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@markrodenno! You just mentioned their were multiple trim levels. Those in the F body community knows their only three trim levels. The base model RS, with the V6. The V8 engine, light weight sporty handling model Z28. And the full loaded SS version with all the bells and whistles.

  • @Riceguy-ql7ht
    @Riceguy-ql7ht3 ай бұрын

    Can do you do nissan s12?

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Possibly we’ll see but that’s a weird one lol

  • @richiesspeedshop82
    @richiesspeedshop82Ай бұрын

    The lt1s are "cheap" yes but the ls1 cars are expensive. They're fetching for over $10k average up here in the northeast.

  • @c5zo6adventures41
    @c5zo6adventures413 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry, your F body was ls1 was introduced in 1998 -02 with the new facelift. Anything prior to that had a LT1 93-97. It’s very simple the 330 hp came from the ram air hood. It was the equivalent of a WS6 trans Am. Nobody cared about the V6.

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @me2891
    @me28913 ай бұрын

    ‘98 Mitsubishi diamanté

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Never heard of it tbh

  • @user-zn7rg4uu3c

    @user-zn7rg4uu3c

    2 ай бұрын

    Car looks great, how common are they?

  • @me2891
    @me28912 ай бұрын

    Please do a good bad and ugly on the 4th gen gs350 preferably 2014 AWD

  • @camscoot4208
    @camscoot42083 ай бұрын

    u should do one on scion frs

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Bet bet

  • @noonecares7730
    @noonecares77302 ай бұрын

    4th gens arent the easiest thing to work on tbh. Its engine bay is kinda small due to half the motor behing under the windshield.

  • @JewkesEngineering
    @JewkesEngineering12 күн бұрын

    That was not the sound of the stock Camaro Z28 or Z28 SS, gas mileage is wrong. The Z28 ls1 or SS will get 18 to 21 around town and up to 28 to 30 on the highway. That is incredible gas mileage. You said this car does not handle well. That is incorrect. The Z28 and SS handle amazing. They can be track car all day long. The T tops do not leak the way they designed them they can’t leak. Where are you getting your info from my goodness. 1993 is when they were first introduced to 1997 with the pointed nose, base came with 3.4 later in 96, 97 you could get the 3.8. The Z28 were Lt cast blocks to 97. From 98 to 2002 you got the vette eng ls1 all aluminum block z28 305 hp SS 325 if you find the SLP option SS it was 345 hp because of better exhaust. Should I go on. If you’re going to do a video of cars you better learn the cars before you smack your gums. Oh and a 3300 pound car is light weight for a sports car like this. The 2010s are over 4000

  • @Zaneladcock11
    @Zaneladcock113 ай бұрын

    You should do a “Good Bad and Ugly on the Toyota Pickup”plssssss

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Idek what that is haha

  • @Zaneladcock11

    @Zaneladcock11

    3 ай бұрын

    @@markroden My bad I shouldn’t been mire specific,but what I mean by Toyota Pickup is a 1984-1988 Toyota Hilux/Pickup😂👍

  • @mpmd6.9

    @mpmd6.9

    3 ай бұрын

    U mean the good, the good, and the slow as sin?

  • @MrElite12323
    @MrElite123233 ай бұрын

    Plz 2006-2010 dodge charger 🙏🏻

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Okie dokie

  • @GrahamGosselin-ch2cq
    @GrahamGosselin-ch2cq3 ай бұрын

    Yo should do a video on the best cheap mid engine cars

  • @tapoutnick5985
    @tapoutnick59853 ай бұрын

    When is the CCF collab dropping ?

  • @eatmysalt291
    @eatmysalt2917 күн бұрын

    Easy to work on? You obviously have never been under the hood of a 4th gen. Theirs no room under there. Half the engine is under the windshield, and if you have the LT1, have fun with swapping your optispark. Damn near gotta take off everything running on your serpentine belt just to get your distributor off.

  • @thomastaylor5826
    @thomastaylor5826Ай бұрын

    1993 - 2002, 1992 was still 3rd gen 🤡

  • @carsxreverb
    @carsxreverb3 ай бұрын

    Idk how but your video made me hate this car less, the rally clip and the orange on white wheels for some reason didn’t look that bad and they make some power, it’s not a pretty car but it’s pretty period correct for a older looking GM of the era

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Hahaha when I watched those I thought the same thing

  • @crw3673

    @crw3673

    2 ай бұрын

    Are you guys referring to the orange Camaro body placed over the honda civic? The section of the video called the bad?🤔

  • @offdazoinkeyss6451
    @offdazoinkeyss64513 ай бұрын

    Where im from, the 4th gen is "the ugly one", and the 5th gen is known as the "shitty cheap one teenagers get." But yo fire vid as always mark, ive been subbed forever now and you should do a good bad and ugly on the 300zx.

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah that’s kinda how it is here too lol

  • @attilahorog6708
    @attilahorog67083 ай бұрын

    Hii pls make a video about honda civic 6gen coupe-s pls

  • @adriancollazo2205
    @adriancollazo22053 ай бұрын

    Mark do a pontiac grand prix gtp or a volvo s60 r vid pls

  • @Melikevroomvroom
    @Melikevroomvroom3 ай бұрын

    Daddy mark😫

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Ayoooo

  • @austinbarker2277
    @austinbarker22773 ай бұрын

    Saw your yt in a Forza gt on Xbox

  • @danielhouze4484
    @danielhouze44843 ай бұрын

    Can you do a gen 3 mazda 3

  • @rutylzz7179
    @rutylzz71793 ай бұрын

    I think 1997 z28 and up has an ls1

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    That’s what someone else said too

  • @evcass69

    @evcass69

    2 ай бұрын

    As in other comments, LS1 first came in 97 Vette, or 98 Fbody.

  • @crw3673

    @crw3673

    2 ай бұрын

    The LS1 came the 97 Corvette first, then in the 98 to 02 Camaros and firebirds a year later.

  • @BlackRam17
    @BlackRam17Ай бұрын

    98-02 were cheap Chrysler Concorde front end rip offs.

  • @michaelm3381
    @michaelm3381Ай бұрын

    I love fourth gens, but you don't appear to know much about them. Get your facts correct before you start talking.

  • @Procodm_player
    @Procodm_player2 ай бұрын

    Porsche 911 the good the bad the ugly

  • @duality0828
    @duality08283 ай бұрын

    48 views 16 minutes htis kid fell off lmao ur car mada tdas6rfv e

  • @markroden

    @markroden

    3 ай бұрын

    Have a stroke there?