Hey, environmental engineer here. I just want to throw in my two cents. Even though I am all for recycling, I want to point out that this concept could be a double-edged sword. Remember that recycling reuses that old material and converts it into new, usable material. The fuel for this process is the old plastics and plastic companies may see this is as a way to continue their plastic production. Overall, this is a viable way to have plastic waste be something useful, but remember we want to eliminate relying on plastics altogether. I think this is a good short, term solution to a long-term problem, but we still have to address the bigger problem in the future.

@Croco_XX

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Randy, you’re making a very valid point here. Us as consumers need to take some responsibility to reduce plastic consumption. We can not eliminate/replace plastic it completely though, I.e. in medical appliances etc. Any replacement material based on current technology and science will be an oil derivative. There is however no need whatsoever to package water and carbonated drinks in single use plastic materials. Also chemical recycling is a good concept per se, however, the technology pyrolysis is a high energy consuming process, which again has a high carbon footprint. Mechanical recycling might actually be a more environmentally friendly solution. The problem here though are the impurities found and hence cannot be reused for food contact.... to cut the long story short: I think that major investments in R&D are essential to find a solution are necessary.

@joshuafisher4241

3 жыл бұрын

@@Croco_XX www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/18/toxic-chemicals-health-humanity-erin-brokovich www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/28/shanna-swan-fertility-reproduction-count-down ^ If we don't stop using plastics altogether, particularly the ones with high amounts of phthalates, we're going to go infertile as a species eventually. We have to move away from using plastics completely

@henk-3098

3 жыл бұрын

But what will be the long term solution? As we know that other types of packaging tend to have a larger carbon footprint than plastic, as plastic is lightweight, strong and durable. I know that it's not black and white and there is not one solution to all of this. But what do you think about bioplastics or plastics made from captured CO2 for instance?

@RandyLy

3 жыл бұрын

@@henk-3098 The long term solution is to find some other sustainable packaging. I know that answer is so general, but we know plastic isn't the sustainable solution. I do believe plastic is here to stay because we'll need it for other purposes, like medical use and other durable storage containers but single use plastic just isn't right. Bioplastics sound like a good alternative and even biodegradable plant alternatives like banana leaves for simple thin wrappers. Once it becomes more widely accepted and is mass produced, the cost goes down drastically.

@RadioDave1967

3 жыл бұрын

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Can you make a story about CATACK-H, a Korean recycler of carbon and glass fiber materials? They use an eco-friendly, zero-waste chemical process to separate the fibers from their polymer matrix. They have the only sustainable solution to recycling of wind blades, hydrogen tanks, and many other applications which otherwise get landfilled or incinerated.

@LitoGeorge

3 жыл бұрын

Extraordinary and wonderful to read!

Need to know how much energy is consumed during recycling process. The key to making these sustainable.

@barnestim

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. The key to making large scale recycling feasible is availability of clean cheap energy in large amounts. The only current tech that allows this is nuclear fission.

@YaMumsSpecialFriend

3 жыл бұрын

Renewable energy and energy storage is the key, as with increasing numbers of other higher energy input businesses.

@jamesbarker6373

3 жыл бұрын

What gases are being captured from the tyres and used to generate power?

@scottbc31h22

3 жыл бұрын

Most pyrolysis processes, including the one shown in the video, produce a flammable gas, as well as the oils. This gas is fed back into the process as fuel for the needed heat. The videos I've seen of similar processes lead the viewer to believe that the process is self powered, needing an outside source of fuel only to get started.

@briandonovan9091

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottbc31h22 Some feed the gases to a gas turbine generators too. RODECS for instance.

0:31 why the elbow tap when all of them have gloves on?

Great story, this journalist is excellent!

Very interested to know the composition of the gases being emitted into the atmosphere from these processes???

@littlehandsgivescovfefe4837

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@jamesbarker6373

3 жыл бұрын

Sames

@erlannalan

3 жыл бұрын

It's pyrolisis, so the plastic or the rubber mostly turn into gasses and then cool down to turn it into oil or crude oil. 20 percent of it Will become TAR , which it's really hard to break down and almost have no use , that's why this kind of machine have huge maintenance cost. Now the real problem is from the heater use for keeping pyrolisis heat which most of the time using gas or natural gas.

„Delivered from Europe“? Does the UK not even consider itself as a geographical part of Europe any more?

@GLORY-TO-ENTROPY

Жыл бұрын

Politics

@toomanymarys7355

Жыл бұрын

Never did. Lol. They call the continent Europe

Been happening in India for a very long time. But we need a better solution to solve the plastic problems. They is also a new technology that desolves the plastic with microbes, seems cleaner than burning it.

It was called Thermal de-polymerisation more than a decade ago.

@TheHk1966

2 жыл бұрын

It still is…LOL

Great news, we need more and more of these innovations.

We have to go to the start of the manufacturing process and make things from the start that are ready to be chemically recycled, so many plastics now are just made to use once and never again, this HAS TO STOP, everything made should be made in a such a way that it allows chemical recycling before it's ever used even once.

I think it's a good idea to try to chemically recycle the plastic waste that already exists, because otherwise it will just be sitting there for hundreds of years. But our whole consumption model really needs to shift away from single-use plastics to really solve the problem. Production of plant-based plastics which at least break down after a period of time also needs to be ramped up.

@toomanymarys7355

Жыл бұрын

Just because it comes from a plant doesn't mean it breaks down. Also, you'd have to put massive amounts of land devoted to growing packaging.

Glass, metal and paper aren't destroying the planet, plastic is.

Sounds promising. Like to see a revisit of this in 1 or 2 years time.

There is a downside to this process. The input material is of instable quality. Not only waste canbe dirty, but also it consist of different plastic materials. And each of them has different additives, colorants, softeners. These transform into tiny dust particles, which are not filterable. Product contaminated with these can never be allowed into oil refinery, because it would destroy catalytic systems. Same goes for chlorine containing plastics - PVC. So the thing you can do with the product, is to burn it. And due to dust particles, it sucks as fuel, it will damage car´s catalyst, and wear down engine parts mechanicaly.

It was great to feature in the chemical recycling Rethink Sustainability piece!

Glad to see this finally come about. Thanks

Great video! I'm kinda of motivated from this channel but The real question should be'' what will be your financial status after watching KZread ?

@PedroGabriel-fb9ym

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think anybody should be left out, when discussing about financial freedom using stock market or digital assets e;g crytpo currency

@emilialucious4068

3 жыл бұрын

Making the right decision when investing can be a tough task!!

@susanthomas2727

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I used to trade some stocks but I couldn't understand how it works kept on getting bad stocks.

@mikesdominick4363

3 жыл бұрын

Trading on your own is very risky l've lost alot trading for myself

@spacetoast7783

3 жыл бұрын

What is 10 minus the square root of four?

Very interesting, but there is a missing point here, the yields of pyrolysis and the share of output that goes into chemical production (including plastics), recycling, and fuels production, recovery operation. How can you ensure that we are speaking of chemical recycling and not plastic to fuel?

Inspirational and well reported. Great stuff.

Several things. 1. Why does she wear a mask while driving up the road but no mask when congregating several other people. 2. wondered why breaking down plastics wasn't done for years. Styrofoam for instance melts away with many other chemicals. 3. Glass always appeared to me to be the best container other than the fact it breaks easily. Back in the day pop bottles, milk bottles, beer bottles and much more had return bounties on them for recycling. As kids we walked the ditches for pop bottles to return for cash to buy things. We had no allowance and this is how we earned cash. $1.00 would buy a burger, fries and a coke. Pop bottle bounty was a nickle so it usually wasn't very tough to find 20 bottles each. At least in the countryside ditches it wasn't.

Glass can be reused again and again. Coca cola has been doing this. Reduce, reuse, recycle.

@montiacpontana41

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, funny. They do that only where they have to.

@101yayo

3 жыл бұрын

@@montiacpontana41 The point is it can be done. Do you also like your own comments. Sound like the type of guy to laugh at your own jokes.

@wispererflame7286

3 жыл бұрын

only until the glass is broken then it can be melted but only a small percentage of old glass can be aded to new mix

@montiacpontana41

3 жыл бұрын

@@101yayo oh yeah, i do laugh at my jokes, because you have to think to get it. Btw, i did like my comment after i read your comment.

I wonder if the big corporations have orchestrated this focus on recycling plastics as a way of taking our eyes off the problems that are much bigger. Problems they don't want us to be aware of, because it goes after their profits. It's obviously wasteful to create plastic and then bury it in the ground, but what harm does it do in the ground? Most of it is relatively inert. Meanwhile, while we focus on plastic, most people seem to ignore the massive deforestation, the energy/water/crops/diesel/herbicides/pesticides invested in producing meat, the overpopulation of the planet, the obscenely wasteful use of fresh water, gas guzzling SUV's etc. Is recycling plastic really on the same scale as these? I think not.

Plastic is a perfect material, but on.y recycling is not enough. We need to encourage manufacturers and end users to use REUSABLE items from plastic. A complex cultural and educational approach is needed.

Good to see large scale operations starting up. Nice report.

That's a great news - so there is some hope!

Went cloths shopping at TJ Max, they carry jeans made out of recycled plastic. They felt like soft cotton, unfortunately they didn't have my size. It would have been nice to see more made out of recycled plastic. Manufacturers need to stop using plastic jars or bottles, go back to glass. My state band plastic bags, even before that band, I carry my own reusable or paper bags, I leave a few in my car or I don't use any if I just pick up a few items.

This is not really sustainable and it is these kinds of broad stroked uses of the word that makes it lose its meaning. That looks like its an incredibly energy-intensive process - how is the plant powered? I am going to take a wild guess and say that because it is technically a less exhaustive oil production method, (compared to regular drilling) the price for this can justify the process costs. Also I worry how much the business benefits from claiming sustainable practices. Nevertheless, its great that there is a loose shift in the direction of the circular economy, it just needs a little more regulation on what qualifies. Anyway, great job cleaning up some plastic, actually though.

It's 2022, how is it going?

Excellent video 👋🏿

Not really explained fully. Is it commercially viable? How much energy does it take to convert the plastic?

Maybe someone should talk about the company *Modumetal* who currently hold many advanced patents in metal nano lamination manufacturing? They _currently_ exclusively make parts for big oil and gas industries... But when big oil and big gas can't burn fossil fuels any more... Perhaps the modumetal tech will be applied to a broader construction industry. Now that...would be awesome.

Will someone please think of the...airborne microplastics being created when those tyres are being processed.

Solution ingredients: 1. Introduce law for plastic packaging to be priced at £/$/€ 1 per GRAMM Yes, just the one ingredient. Expected results: - Consumers will keep plastics to reuse. We never thow away valuables - Companies and corporations will introduce food/drinks dispensers to maximise profits as always - The wealthy few to afford £/$/€10 per GRAMM, will pay for cleaning up Example: 2 litres of coca-cola = £/$/€ 3 1 platic bottle (bottle+cap+labels) weighing 38 gramms = £/$/€ 38 3+38= £/$/€ 41 I can afford to buy a bottle of coca-cola for £/$/€ 41. And i will keep that bottle safe for years. You can bank on it!

Recycling waste in order to create more waste. What a stupid humanity.

Investor's who see profit. You said it there at the end. If there's no profit this plastic problem the world is going through would become an un reversible catastrophe and only then would we try to do something in desperation. So sad.

Thermal depolymerization... been around for decades. No one's gotten it to work well enough yet....

Governments must first internalize the full life cycle costs of plastics to the manufactures of these products before mainstream, efficient recycling of them can be done. For far too long plastics manufactures have spent millions tell consumers their products are green because they can be recycled- without any regard for if they really are and who has to pay for that end stage recycling.

Really? Elbow bumps while you're all wearing gloves? Come on ... Also, that guys not wrong. I had no idea glass, metal or paper had a larger carbon footprint than plastic. That actually almost sounds like bullsh*t ...

But if you can still buy virgin plastic cheaper than recycled plastic this will never take off.

@samuelchamberlain2584

3 жыл бұрын

Bossadave, that of course is the main problem (economics) I notice that lots of items that could be made from recycled plastic aren't and there are weesle phrases like "made from recyclable plastic" ie not recycled.

Of course it makes sense to turn plastics into fuel, if we don't do that we are using petrol and leaving plastic on landfills. 1 - We should reduce plastic waste 2 - We should mechanically recycle what we can 3 - We should chemically recycle what we can't 4 - Zero plastic on oceans

Well explained

They are already doing this in Australia and The Aussies are building a factory in Midland England. It does work it is economical and it solves a huge problem. The Green Blob will be totally pissed.

Good luck with pyrolysis, it has been around for ages, but difficult to operate commercially, likewise microwaving tyres. Pyrolysis oil is still a very smelly organic mixture, which needs further refining. Shredded plastic and tyres can easily be used in cement kilns to replace coal, yes it is burning the resource, but we need cement, and so far the only viable cement manufature process involves calcining limestone at high temperatures, and needs fuel.

This and a meaningful price on the packaging around food would go a long way in reducing the tip we have created.

Good stuff

Delivered from Europe? You are in Europe, except for that, good report!

No hand shakes while wearing gloves, but lets lean in closer for elbow bumps without masks....

@blabla-rg7ky

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, human stupidity at its best

This could be a game changer in the near future.

We need to putting appropriate levies on packaging to pay for it's recycling, the more complex the packaging ,the higher the levy should be -

I'd like to say - how hygienic is this ??? I've lately thought about kitchen paper - how hygienic is it really ?? We tend to think it is but does it come from recycled papers ??

just like the algae tanks that ate plastics and pooped oil, it wont be profitable enough to scale to be any more than a novelty. cuase that was a decade ago.

Great news.

This pyrolysis process was achieved in New Zealand 10 years ago but they couldn't make it economic...

@charlesuk5358

3 жыл бұрын

Its all part of the Plan

What about the canvas and metals in tyres, how they remove those components in tyres???

@wispererflame7286

3 жыл бұрын

from what i seen in the video they pulverize the tyres so the metal is separated with magnets and canvas maybe mecanicaly

They need to preach Reducing and Reusing more; and less about Recycling because Recycling is a broken system in the US. Stop using single use plastics and stop buying/consuming so much. Push government to force manufacturers to recycle and reduce by having them pay up front deposits on their products that they can receive back once they recycle them.

1:52 Lady: wow... Dude: Lady, this thing cost 7.2 mill

The video uses the words "commercially viable." This is the main problem with recycling plastic: it isn't profitable to do so. Even recycling aluminum, which used to save Coke millions of dollars, is not being seen as profitable. Outside of China, the world doesn't have the infrastructure to recycle plastic even chemically. That is one of the biggest changes that needs to be made for recycling to be profitable again.

When I win the lotto, I will invest in these companys. No kidding.

Are there no waste-fired power plants in Britain?

Save Our Planet

if it all gets cut up and put in a spiral chemical stamping and thermal conditioning drum. Then separating the product range generated should be easier. the government should be focused on what product range you can from each green product output in waste reprocessing. In this new decade don't we want to up product range on the output as a gesture for the next gen ect. It can all be reprocessed just takes time to figure out how. I envision a world where the dump doesn't need to get bigger because so much gets used of the dump and final product companies have more green sense.

We have to stop burning plastic, he says, and the alternative is called something with "pyro" in it. Sounds like burning to me. Anyway, I wonder how good it ends up looking when you consider all the energy used in the processes.

So we just get more of the stuff we recycled out of it and never really solve the problem. We're just juggling the plastic we have and have to keep juggling it forever. Where does it stop? Burden of recycling needs to be on manufacturers, not others.

Recycling is costly, that's why manufacturers prefer to use virgin materials.

Tires contain little plastic.....just synthetic rubber

That's awesome but I prefer the bacteria which eat the plastic 👍🌹

@Voidroamer

3 жыл бұрын

they can't eat all types, and are slow. will probably need both :)

@haidarsyriaismyheart5945

3 жыл бұрын

@@Voidroamer they do now, go to this channel (now you know) and you will see that they had a big progress and they start doing it in several countries

Essential oil of nutmeg in a carrier oil is good for arthritis

❤

Why is no body talking about plastic waste from fishing industry???

Just burn it!

I normally don’t like accents but hers is so sweet.

non essential plastic use needs to be banned. If you cant take responsibility for the proper recycling of the waste you produce then you shouldn't be allowed to produce it

I. M. F. RRR! Racing Rapid Race! News process! Listen now.

Brought from Europe? And you are...where?

Look up tyres to fuel.

As you say across the pond Here, Here, Rather, Good Show, or as we say about F'ing Time!

Unfortunately "recycling" is just shorter way to say "Can we find someone to buy this stuff off of us?" Doesn't matter if you manage to make things carbon neutral, zero waste, perfect circle of life, as long as it's cheaper make new plastic from oils the best recycling isn't going to go anywhere. So methods like thermal depolymerization or whatever other name they call it to deal with any sort of waste materials really is only as good as the ability to make it cheaper than "buying new"

Every few years there's a new company or way to reuse or recycle used tires They all, thus far, have failed

We still use banana leaves and fibre bags for shopping .still plastic rubbish prob. All due to process packagings. Still a good start. Hope as it developed a better new way get invented.

There are roofing companies that make shingles out of recycled tires, I believe. People in the comments just like to sh*t on every small step we take toward sustainability.

Just heat it and turn into a plasma, would break all chemical bonds...

okay, sounds good, but it's another human contrivance, so it's bound to have some negative consequences. also, using less means using less, not just using the same amount in different containers. some people like to say that glass, metal and cloth bags have higher "carbon footprints", but they fail to mention that those items can often be reused indefinitely, whereas the majority of plastic waste is from one time use containers. being more mindful of the waste you personally create every day is the best way to deal with the problem.

Biodegradable plastics exist. It needs to be promoted and adapted.

My office work for the Factory Wimbledon London England U.K management supervisory cleaning log book written information of Industrials cleaning so..@#.

Just make eatable bags made of suger and there will be no junk anymore

God i hope so.....

I fought that Pyrolysis is physical process since you do not add any chemicals - i was wrong.

yaaay someone did iiiiiitttt...!!!!

Using bacteria to create monomers would be more efficient.

Pyrolysis?

@charlierob4377

3 жыл бұрын

The tried and failed solution to waste in the UK on many occasions, very few plants I have visited have worked to an acceptable standard. There is no end of waste states yet for the material either so it’s still waste

@pocketoperatorjams98

3 жыл бұрын

Places like India are using pyrolysis to recycle plastic and car tyres. Why can't the UK?

@andymanaus1077

3 жыл бұрын

@@pocketoperatorjams98 The answer: it costs a lot more to recycle the plastic into crude oil than to drill crude oil with a rig. Therefore, for plastic recycling to work, governments need to give plastic-derived oils either tax exemptions or financial incentives to offset the added costs. Governments charge huge rates of tax on petroleum products. They don't want to forego that money so they aren't going to encourage an industry that will erode their tax base. Change will only come with lots of people demanding that they assist companies who are helping to solve plastic waste problems.

Pyrolysis is not commercially viable because it uses a lot of energy and since most of energy comes from fossil fuels it's not green either. Recycling plastics will be worth while wen we'll have spare energy from renewables and for now we better store waste plastic in landfill or use directly as a fuel.

@geoffreycharles6330

3 жыл бұрын

What if we use geothermal power?

@pocketoperatorjams98

3 жыл бұрын

Pyrolysis can be achieved without using much energy at all. The gas that is released from the plastic during Pyrolysis can be used to heat the rest of the plastic in a closed loop system.

@andymanaus1077

3 жыл бұрын

It is not necessary to use fossil fuels. Any source of heat will do provided it can reach the required temperature. I've seen plastic pyrolysis done with a solar mirror array, hydroelectric power and even by burning driftwood on an island where they collect plastic garbage from the beach to turn into generator fuel.

@edmundas919

3 жыл бұрын

Pyrolysis requires 300-900°C. Geothermal does not produce those temperatures. Burning syngas or synoil from plastics to pyrolyse plastics is self defeating process. Burning anything to decompose such a stable material as plastic will produce much more co2 than just leaving it in landfills. Using solar mirror array or hydroelectric power is a good idea, but better usage for that power is to use directly as electricity than cooking plastics. Since renewable energy is unstable and we have no storage yet, when there's more electricity being produced than consumed, then it makes sense to use for pyrolysis or hydrogen production and so on.

This was known yrs ago but nothing been done about it .

@andymanaus1077

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, most countries have very high taxes on petroleum products. If you make crude oil, the tax office is going to want a huge chunk of money if you choose to sell it or process it into fuels. The problem is that if you produce oil and it costs you a lot more than drilling it out of the earth, you will very quickly be unable to compete on price. The solution partly lies in governments offering tax exemptions on fuels and oils created from recycling plastic waste. Until that happens, plastic pyrolysis will remain a small niche industry.

Wouldn't it take energy (i.e. from fossil and other sources) to recycle these tyres, adding to the carbon footprint?

@GLORY-TO-ENTROPY

Жыл бұрын

Ofc nothing is free?

So all the plastic we separated 30/20/10 years ago went.... to the ocean?🤦🏻

@andymanaus1077

3 жыл бұрын

If you put plastics into your recycling bin then it goes either to recycling industries or into landfill. In respect of the latter, the problem has been a lack of commercial interest and/or profitability for companies to obtain and use the separated materials. In developed countries, it is highly doubtful that anything you put into a recycling bin would end up in the ocean.

why is it called chemical recycling when no chemicals are used. Shouldnt it be thermal recycling?

Reusing is more efficient then recycling

@andymanaus1077

3 жыл бұрын

The catchphrase should be Reduce, RETAIN, Reuse, Recycle. There is far too much stuff thrown away for the sake of a busted fuse or diode, or because the new model is out.

A plan with no obvious draw back s

Most technologically sophisticated civilisation in planetary history can't seem to figure out how to reuse (rather than recycle)...

Yeah it’s coming it’s called 3D printing