Cheating in Competitive Melee

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Also note that the changes to Pichu shown off in the video are approximations based on the following posts, which are both first-hand testimonies of the hacked version of the game:
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  • @renamamiya9196
    @renamamiya91963 жыл бұрын

    That Pichu player really gave him a smash 4 Cloud Up air

  • @puellabella3580

    @puellabella3580

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didnt even finish the video and I knew he would get mentioned. Dude was at my locals lol

  • @Newbmann

    @Newbmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well s4 cloud with instead of a disjoint full imoraltality durring the moves hitbox being out so a better s4 cloud up air AND THATS SAYING SOMTHING.

  • @FoxIord

    @FoxIord

    3 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't even have the ridiculous hitbox below him. It does have invincibility in exchange though.

  • @carson3526

    @carson3526

    3 жыл бұрын

    Up air wasn't changed outside of the invinciblity.

  • @Newbmann

    @Newbmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carson3526 no it had its hitbox grown by almost 3 times.

  • @ShibuNub3305
    @ShibuNub33052 жыл бұрын

    A little known fact about the Pichu player is that he later went on to sneak into Nintendo headquarters and discretely alter the code of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as revenge, resulting in Pre-Patch Pichu

  • @eurybiaball63

    @eurybiaball63

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with that comment

  • @zaneplayx3176

    @zaneplayx3176

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually?

  • @Rezim942

    @Rezim942

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zaneplayx3176 probably not, but given the man is from Ohio, i wouldnt completely disregard that possibility, even if it is just a meme

  • @8.bitfan

    @8.bitfan

    Жыл бұрын

    I kinda love the fact that i got pre patch pichu for a bit

  • @GoldInk-ds5up

    @GoldInk-ds5up

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Rezim942 Ohio moment

  • @Verte7
    @Verte73 жыл бұрын

    I really like how you classify assaulting your opponent as a technique

  • @cfino9

    @cfino9

    2 жыл бұрын

    Believe it or not, it was an actual problem. Screaming in peoples ear was a workaround for a short while, but also got banned.

  • @CoralCopperHead

    @CoralCopperHead

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cfino9 As far as I know, the only workaround is mashing buttons as loudly as you can to throw off your opponent, but with how clicky Gamecube controllers are, I doubt the tech is worth a damn in Smash. Legal and effective in more traditional fighters though.

  • @soleous

    @soleous

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CoralCopperHead its why a lot of SF players prefer using negative edge for projectile inputs as releasing a button is much quieter than pressing one

  • @CptJistuce

    @CptJistuce

    Жыл бұрын

    In my youth, it was considered a valid tech, but only against Mortal Kombat uppercut juggles. It probably wasn't tournament-legal, but the idea of video game tournaments being a serious thing was still distant.

  • @readyforlol

    @readyforlol

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey, as long as it works !

  • @AnRKader
    @AnRKader3 жыл бұрын

    I love the spooky lead up and reveal to... “master hnad”

  • @jjt171

    @jjt171

    2 жыл бұрын

    ah yes. master H N A D

  • @gayflower900

    @gayflower900

    2 жыл бұрын

    Master Huge-Nimble-Appendage-Disembodied AKA the dread Master HNAD

  • @crazycsiw128

    @crazycsiw128

    Жыл бұрын

    "mister hend"

  • @yeetusskeetus884
    @yeetusskeetus8843 жыл бұрын

    The pichu player probably just ported pre-patch ultimate pichu into melee.

  • @Joltz9

    @Joltz9

    3 жыл бұрын

    a man way before his time

  • @Max-qb5ui

    @Max-qb5ui

    3 жыл бұрын

    They gutted Pichu lmao

  • @mashtonish

    @mashtonish

    3 жыл бұрын

    some say "hacked" some say "patched"

  • @neophyte_tpk

    @neophyte_tpk

    3 жыл бұрын

    From the Wii? His dad must've worked at Nintendo

  • @mechanicalmacbook

    @mechanicalmacbook

    3 жыл бұрын

    and it's the launch pichu back in 1.0.0

  • @GCLU
    @GCLU3 жыл бұрын

    Ken's response to that Pichu incident is still rather hilarious. "The best part is that he could've just played Pikachu" His tag was xChaos/Chaos

  • @HappyBeezerStudios

    @HappyBeezerStudios

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aye. the range, the weight, the fact that it hurts itself....

  • @givecamichips

    @givecamichips

    3 жыл бұрын

    The main problem is that everyone has seen enough Pikachu to know something is up. With Pichu, if you never played casually you may have legit never seen this version of Pichu played before.

  • @TheIdiothead

    @TheIdiothead

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@givecamichips I think that what Ken was trying to say is that if you want to play a stronger version of pichu, then you don’t have to cheat. You can just play pikachu instead

  • @givecamichips

    @givecamichips

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheIdiothead Well yeah, obviously. But the guy made Pichu better than Pikachu.

  • @Tyrga

    @Tyrga

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@givecamichips who me?

  • @brianthomas7688
    @brianthomas76883 жыл бұрын

    Nice, sleek editing. No eyesore, no forced gags and memes, just straight to the point with some light humor.

  • @krallakrulla971

    @krallakrulla971

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait he isnt dead

  • @Omnent

    @Omnent

    3 жыл бұрын

    He hearted hes alive

  • @underkanal3656
    @underkanal36562 жыл бұрын

    "Fox prayed from bottom of his heart" "HIYAAAAAAAA" That got me laughing

  • @GP423

    @GP423

    9 ай бұрын

    one could say he called upon a HIYAAAAA power

  • @SWAGMONEY_DX

    @SWAGMONEY_DX

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@GP423 +2

  • @phanta8880
    @phanta88803 жыл бұрын

    Ahh, yes the only character in this game that’s banned. “Master Hnad.”

  • @diegodankquixote-wry3242

    @diegodankquixote-wry3242

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I played melee I would main fighting polygon (male) and fight for him to be recognized by the community and he put at the bottom of every tier list.

  • @Platitudinous9000

    @Platitudinous9000

    3 жыл бұрын

    Every game has a character who either gets banned or is considered for a ban. Master Hnad, Meta Knihgt, Bayonteta...

  • @siddarthselvarajan2667

    @siddarthselvarajan2667

    3 жыл бұрын

    i was gonna type that lol

  • @phanta8880

    @phanta8880

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@siddarthselvarajan2667 rip

  • @lycantubeves5992

    @lycantubeves5992

    3 жыл бұрын

    Crazy hand: am I a joke to you!?

  • @The_Meev
    @The_Meev3 жыл бұрын

    Makes me wonder how that Pichu player thought he wouldn't get caught when he made such massive and noticeable changes to the character

  • @hamiltoncarvalhoii9403

    @hamiltoncarvalhoii9403

    3 жыл бұрын

    honestly had he just kept his cool he wouldn't have gotten caught in the first place. The idea was genius and no one would of expected it in a million years, at least until he got to majors

  • @paniccat

    @paniccat

    3 жыл бұрын

    He was probably just doing it for the lulz

  • @Newbmann

    @Newbmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    He could have done it if he used pichu as a secondary and did freindlys with his main Its as simple most low or bottem tiers are so underused most people dont know there hitboxes in the moment off the top of there heads Ok that F Smash easily could have given it away KILLING EARLYER THAN FULL CHARGE TIPPER MARTH ok thats obvious.

  • @The_Meev

    @The_Meev

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Newbmann Yeah, that's the thing that got me the most. Hitboxes? Sure, they looked a little jank but nobody pays attention to stuff like that on low tiers. F-Smash killing full screen at 20%? Nobody's gonna buy that for a second.

  • @privatepessleneck

    @privatepessleneck

    3 жыл бұрын

    cheaters are not really people to put in effort to cover their tracks, I mean they didn't put the effort to just try their best without cheats.

  • @popsodarootbeers
    @popsodarootbeers3 жыл бұрын

    In case anyone was wondering, ledge grabs are counted and displayed in the results screen after the match ends, so no, you don't have to review the footage and count to be sure. The Melee devs really thought of everything*!

  • @comfyasf
    @comfyasf3 жыл бұрын

    6:54 Those hands mean nothing to the average person, but people in the melee community can feel their aura

  • @Grgrqr
    @Grgrqr3 жыл бұрын

    “Cheating” “Intelligent bypass of the rule set”

  • @maxbasilone3026

    @maxbasilone3026

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't call hacking your main's weight so fox can waveshine you across Battlefield intelligent.

  • @Forthelemon

    @Forthelemon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@maxbasilone3026 p sure waveshining is based on traction, not weight or fall speed. Peach is one of the lightest and floatiest characters and is also one of the easiest to waveshine. Increasing Pichu's fall speed is overall a buff imo but there are some downsides

  • @LuigiLitoLL

    @LuigiLitoLL

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Forthelemon nope it's based on weight, anyone lower than marths weight can't get waveshined, Peach is above marth.

  • @Forthelemon

    @Forthelemon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LuigiLitoLL oh wow ok I had no idea

  • @Snowballsage

    @Snowballsage

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Forthelemon 6:12

  • @jamonesbaratoskim8039
    @jamonesbaratoskim80393 жыл бұрын

    when he makes a new video i think: "that´s it there´s nothing else left on melee" but he keps surprising me and i like it

  • @wintershorts1862

    @wintershorts1862

    3 жыл бұрын

    Something new with Melee everytime, from a completely new combo (like what Armada did to leffen that one time) to a new historical event in Melee, for a 2-decade year old game it's surprising how new it gets.

  • @bveeze
    @bveeze3 жыл бұрын

    4:25 “Master Hnad”

  • @thestanman1486
    @thestanman14863 жыл бұрын

    Guys, he's been active on Twitter for awhile. He just took a small break but recently got back into making videos. And a video is planned to go up very soon.

  • @gucci_vsause1778

    @gucci_vsause1778

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let’s go

  • @trashgang_

    @trashgang_

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I was honestly starting to think something serious might've happened since this channel hasn't seen any activity in 4 months and I don't have Twitter.

  • @Saiyanryu
    @Saiyanryu3 жыл бұрын

    6:04 - 6:21 What the Ohio Melee community found out was that Pichu’s goggles are heavy as hell.

  • @raulphilipgoco403

    @raulphilipgoco403

    3 жыл бұрын

    They also found that Pichu has a invisible Buster sword and that added to his weight.

  • @4kcollections477

    @4kcollections477

    Жыл бұрын

    @@raulphilipgoco403 And that weight allowed him to tech faster and make his forward smash as thick as a bull's head

  • @mortmortington240

    @mortmortington240

    Жыл бұрын

    bro has tungsten in his goggles

  • @BeatRiceIsHere
    @BeatRiceIsHere3 жыл бұрын

    These 3D model edits are so good I’m starting to become suspicious that they’re the reason it takes a while for a video to come out

  • @Snowcen

    @Snowcen

    3 жыл бұрын

    what are you talking about?

  • @nyatrue401

    @nyatrue401

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think he’s joking, implying he thinks the smash bros models are animated by asum himself.

  • @Snowcen

    @Snowcen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nyatrue401 oh ok, that makes some sense

  • @BeatRiceIsHere

    @BeatRiceIsHere

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whoops my bad, meant to say “edits” instead of animations, either way it’s still really good editing

  • @cinnamonnoir2487

    @cinnamonnoir2487

    3 жыл бұрын

    Conspiracy Theory: AsumSaus works really hard on his videos. I don't know, man. That's pretty out there.

  • @givecamichips
    @givecamichips2 жыл бұрын

    4:44 For his side special, he wields a gun.

  • @lightning3170
    @lightning31703 жыл бұрын

    I've literally never played a game of melee in my life but your content is really entertaining :)

  • @MasonEricPatterson
    @MasonEricPatterson3 жыл бұрын

    The way this guy buffed Pichu and thought no one would notice has me DYING

  • @aperson7303

    @aperson7303

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol he forcing everyone to play his busted game was hilarious enough

  • @thatdude3977

    @thatdude3977

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmfao 😹 True!!! But to think there is already a character in the game that can kill you at 30%

  • @Jotari

    @Jotari

    3 жыл бұрын

    Changing the forward smash damage is the most ludicrous for me. Like, sure, extending hit boxes and ending lag, that's something that might pass unnoticed. Some characters have jank hit boxes. But come on dude, people are going to notice when your smash does literally double the percent damage that is clearly visible on screen.

  • @crisismoon880

    @crisismoon880

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hollow

  • @adrifitz8793

    @adrifitz8793

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jotari honestly he should have gone the full mile and just make all of his moves kill at zero since the bastard thought no one would find it off that his f-smash killed at 35.

  • @gab_gabriel7091
    @gab_gabriel70913 жыл бұрын

    Imagine playing a set on a hacked version of Melee and Mew2King goes up to you, puts his hand on your shoulder and goes "That's one interesting Pichu you got there..."

  • @Freefork

    @Freefork

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hacker: Like my F-smash? M2K: You will expose our secrets if you keep this up. Play some friendlies and stop forward smashing. Hungry box: Teehee, the Edge removed 59 seconds off the timer.

  • @aetherius6221

    @aetherius6221

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean he is the original frame data miner

  • @laytonjr6601

    @laytonjr6601

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aetherius6221 He didn't data mined the frames, he measured them in game by pausing repetitively.

  • @aetherius6221

    @aetherius6221

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@laytonjr6601 more in concept than literally but yeah

  • @lonk_skonk

    @lonk_skonk

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd sweat bullets

  • @flaregamer64
    @flaregamer643 жыл бұрын

    Missing him badly Right Now

  • @runic3338

    @runic3338

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you know where he went?

  • @flaregamer64

    @flaregamer64

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@runic3338 He posted a video teaser some time ago but not much has been heard from him otherwise.

  • @shromp2034

    @shromp2034

    3 жыл бұрын

    Boy do I have some news for you

  • @flaregamer64

    @flaregamer64

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shromp2034 Yeah I saw the new video. Worth the wait.

  • @CenJohan
    @CenJohan3 жыл бұрын

    0:24 "Something with Merit" *shows melee*

  • @GimR
    @GimR3 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always! Regarding tournaments, hacking will never work in a substantial way. Once pools start there are people on all setups and Pool Captains watching over. Most pools also have 4 setups. So if they did sneak their game on it they would be suspect if they didn't listen to the pool captain to play on an open setup and continually asked to play on one. They'd likely be denied as the pool needs to be finished in a timely manner too. Also, Stream setups would never have this happen to them. So if someone did sneak it in, they'd get a buff for a round or 2 and it's just not worth being banned from the entire community for a few cheap wins. This is why the one Pichu player at a local is the only recorded version of this type of cheating (that I know of at least.)

  • @blackdot105

    @blackdot105

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let's hope it stays at the one Pichu player.

  • @jaysefgames1155

    @jaysefgames1155

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I was to do something like this, I wouldn't even buff anyone specifically. I'd just jank up the game a little and make people think the game was just bugging

  • @cullenhutchison6528

    @cullenhutchison6528

    3 жыл бұрын

    This may be true, for larger tournaments at least. But for smaller tournaments or locals without pools or anything, especially those where people find their own matches, it is more likely to be an issue, and while thousands of dollars won't be on the line, there is still money to be won or lost. I think the reason there hasn't been another case is because either nobody who would be willing to cheat knows how to not get caught and they don't want to risk being banned, or this has happened more in isolated incidents that people don't talk about or maybe didn't even realize at the time. The point is, people still need to be careful and have a solution in mind, just in case.

  • @Laxhax123

    @Laxhax123

    3 жыл бұрын

    Guess I’ll head back to the lab again to find a better method...

  • @andreaskrlev4376

    @andreaskrlev4376

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are cases where people could cheat without it being immideatly noticeable. If anyone remembers 0.9x knockback incident, it's not completely unlikely for someone to modify a setup in such a slight way where it wasn't immideatly noticeable

  • @InfernoOmni
    @InfernoOmni3 жыл бұрын

    Just got finish binging all your videos. I don’t even care for most of the subjects but you have perfected the art of film making. Literally cannot stop watching your content.

  • @TallerVision

    @TallerVision

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi omni

  • @creme923

    @creme923

    3 жыл бұрын

    lay yourself omni

  • @pasta-and-heroin

    @pasta-and-heroin

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah dude this is exactly what I was thinking (: I'm the same, never got into smash but I always love well-crafted media made by someone who clearly cares deeply for whatever interest it is

  • @Kyoko_

    @Kyoko_

    3 жыл бұрын

    What kind of weirdo watches videos where they don't care about the subject? You are strange, but certainly there is content out there that is better for your strange tendencies.

  • @pasta-and-heroin

    @pasta-and-heroin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Kyoko_ what a silly thing to say. how do you find new things? how does your taste evolve? You’re the strange one, big fella

  • @jakegwolford
    @jakegwolford2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, found your channel yesterday and can’t stop watching. I’m an Ultimate player but this makes me wish Nintendo would step up and support the Melee community. You guys are super dedicated and it sucks to see so many fixable issues-port priority and Luigi’s down special from one of your other videos blew my mind.

  • @theravenswoodacademy8796
    @theravenswoodacademy87963 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea Master Hand was a playable character in Melee, and my brother and I wore that disk out back in the day.

  • @LilacMonarch

    @LilacMonarch

    2 жыл бұрын

    Considering it's only possible with a glitch, I'm guessing the controls were probably implemented for testing during development and were just left in because it was supposed to be inaccessible anyway. Iirc if you have no character selected when a match starts it uses id 0 which is master hand

  • @marxssweetass6118
    @marxssweetass61183 жыл бұрын

    I'm just imagining a match between two Master Hands looking like a very complicated handshake.

  • @lily_littleangel

    @lily_littleangel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, if I read this correctly, master hand can only be played by player 3 so sadly two players can't both be the hand.

  • @Kapenguin448

    @Kapenguin448

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lily_littleangel This makes me wonder, is it possible for one player to be Master Hand and another player to be Crazy Hand?

  • @Kohchu

    @Kohchu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kapenguin448 Using a Pro Action Replay, it is possible to allow Players to play as Both Master hand, and Crazy Hand, yes. And like Master Hand; Crazy Hand is fully actionable. In Addition; some moves cause Master Hand to produce Sparks, and freeze. This is actually the trigger for Crazy Hand to do a dual tech, and if he uses the same ability that Master Hand did to generate the sparks; he will use the Dual Tech with him (Either the Double Clap, Double Punch, or Knuckleduster). Currently, there is no known legit way to unlock Crazy Hand. The Master Hand method is a glitch caused by proceeding to the selection screen without picking a character; which then selects a default value in the code, which happens to be Master Hand. Perhaps one day, someone will figure out a way to trigger Crazy Hand the same way.

  • @vivelespatat2670

    @vivelespatat2670

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Kohchuthe Crazy Hand is real!

  • @marayno1
    @marayno13 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, my favorite method of cheating at melee "Assaulting your opponent"

  • @Agamemnon2

    @Agamemnon2

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know it's happened in MTG once or twice. There's a couple people with lifetime bans from all organized tournaments because of assaulting either other attendees, or tournament staff.

  • @GumshoeClassic

    @GumshoeClassic

    3 жыл бұрын

    If people can stab each other over playing cards or painted plastic (or resin... or... *shudders* finecast) figurines, they can start doing the same over a video game.

  • @KopperNeoman

    @KopperNeoman

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Agamemnon2 Better than Jeremy who got lifetime banned for helping expose pedos.

  • @Saltyoven

    @Saltyoven

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean wasn't there that one Brawl money match against an ice climber main, who got out of chain grabs by repeatedly screaming in the guy's ear?

  • @memenazi7078

    @memenazi7078

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Saltyoven In his ear* move your ear then it ain’t hard to wobble

  • @jasonjacobs176
    @jasonjacobs1763 жыл бұрын

    I hope you don’t stop finding interesting ssb things to talk about however, I would watch most any game you talk about with this level of production and analysis; keep going mr.sauce!

  • @superlounging
    @superlounging3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting and entertaining as always, great video; probably my favorite music choices out of any other on the channel.

  • @DerfMW
    @DerfMW3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a TO from NEOH and it's actually become sort of common practice for TOs here to provide setups most of the time. We don't actually have hard rules about it, but for the weeklies we were running prior to the pandemic we had about 30 modded wiis and a decent number of CRTs stored at our venue. Whenever we run larger events we do allow players to bring their own setups, but they need to comply to our rules about them and are run off of our memory cards. It's not really possible to completely avoid the possibility of cheating at larger events, but with all these things in place it makes it pretty difficult. Also I just want to add that I am the only player from our PR at the time who has a 2-0 record over super pichu.

  • @thegreenitalianmachine5411

    @thegreenitalianmachine5411

    3 жыл бұрын

    Huh, so how does being a TO Work, really? Also, A Positive record against Super Pichu, that's really good.

  • @DerfMW

    @DerfMW

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thegreenitalianmachine5411 that's a pretty big question, there are a lot of different aspects to TOing. Running smaller weeklies and stuff is pretty self explanatory, but with bigger events you need to devote a lot more focus into advertisement and figuring out how to get your community interested.

  • @KopperNeoman

    @KopperNeoman

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Stevean2 If the players fall for it, what can the TO do, drag them in?

  • @psymar

    @psymar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KopperNeoman He's talking about COVID, I'm sorry to say.

  • @TDG386

    @TDG386

    11 ай бұрын

    Bless you

  • @Ludvix
    @Ludvix3 жыл бұрын

    good ol days of botting in runescape and running hacks on minecaft

  • @tstsdrtsdrtsts

    @tstsdrtsdrtsts

    3 жыл бұрын

    i miss you daddy luvdix

  • @MarioFan587YT

    @MarioFan587YT

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh so he does exist still

  • @Jack-dt7rw

    @Jack-dt7rw

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whats good ludvix?

  • @RinZDR

    @RinZDR

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait? You're alive?

  • @16BITinsanity

    @16BITinsanity

    3 жыл бұрын

    We miss you. We love you dad.

  • @Frog101_Real
    @Frog101_Real3 жыл бұрын

    And when the world needed him most, he vanished.

  • @neosquid9609
    @neosquid96093 жыл бұрын

    1:40 That Jigglypuff transition was slick.

  • @Emerald29
    @Emerald293 жыл бұрын

    The Pichu cheater could've just upped the hitbox, and damage a lil bit, and probably decrease the end lag for a few frames and no one will detect him, instead of increasing everything to the extreme.

  • @cinnamonnoir2487

    @cinnamonnoir2487

    3 жыл бұрын

    In that case he probably wouldn't have won, though. Pichu is a terrible character.

  • @ubermaster1

    @ubermaster1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sadly it wouldn't have been enough. Pichu is THAT bad

  • @debornmc

    @debornmc

    3 жыл бұрын

    exactly

  • @3kojimbles895

    @3kojimbles895

    3 жыл бұрын

    go pichu, and zap to the extreme

  • @bacheese

    @bacheese

    2 жыл бұрын

    He was just that bad

  • @_-Dante-_
    @_-Dante-_3 жыл бұрын

    No one talking about when Hbox had his mom win for him...

  • @jman2050

    @jman2050

    3 жыл бұрын

    Turns out Armada also had a stand-in playing that match for him cause he was too busy grinding for 70 star PBs instead. They just replayed the match later.

  • @jamonesbaratoskim8039

    @jamonesbaratoskim8039

    3 жыл бұрын

    also b0nd played for n0ne and scorpion marster played for mang0

  • @remix2593

    @remix2593

    3 жыл бұрын

    hungrybox was in need of a major comeback

  • @Oboromaru

    @Oboromaru

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have nothing witty to add but Dante your icon is godlike LMAO

  • @salj.5459

    @salj.5459

    3 жыл бұрын

    jman2050 Context?

  • @danteydantes8415
    @danteydantes84153 жыл бұрын

    the fact that when playing with master hand you can say "and for his side special, gun" and press B + left/right

  • @lunarus5805
    @lunarus58052 жыл бұрын

    My favorite video of yours by far. Can literally watch this over and over

  • @volt7958
    @volt79583 жыл бұрын

    3:15 "which was also the last time a mario player won anything" WHO'S LAUGHING NOW HUH

  • @RamzaBeoulves

    @RamzaBeoulves

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why you gotta do us like that :(

  • @windy2478

    @windy2478

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can someone explain?

  • @thesuntitan

    @thesuntitan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@windy2478 it’s a reference to his last video iirc

  • @sp1nda
    @sp1nda3 жыл бұрын

    It is so crazy to have one of my friends through the competitive melee scene growing up be so infamous for cheating w/ Pichu lmao. I stg I was the first person to play against super pichu but didn't know it at the time.

  • @10kedited

    @10kedited

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @crowns9966

    @crowns9966

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao super pichu 🤣

  • @memenazi7078

    @memenazi7078

    3 жыл бұрын

    Know anything about it? What was this dude’s motive lol

  • @LolLol-kv9gd

    @LolLol-kv9gd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@memenazi7078 he was probably trolling

  • @hdfz4362

    @hdfz4362

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@memenazi7078 Mental & family issues, used the game as an escape

  • @superpianoman4109
    @superpianoman41093 жыл бұрын

    I just watched everything asumsaus has to offer, coming for you archivesaus!

  • @xanthangum1217
    @xanthangum12173 жыл бұрын

    "Or assulting them" Great technique, use it all the time

  • @arnox4554

    @arnox4554

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a big proponent of the slapping-controller-out-of-hand technique.

  • @Freefork

    @Freefork

    3 жыл бұрын

    I beat them up in the game if they piss me off in real life. If I like them, I spam grabs so I can hug them to death. Too bad snake isn't in Melee.

  • @nahor88

    @nahor88

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the end of the day, Smash is a variation of sports, and real life sports can get physical. You have someone right next to you you're trying to beat, and we're human. Emotions can get the better of us. Point being, I'm a bit surprised there haven't been more instances of physical assault at a Smash tournament.

  • @derekmann8239

    @derekmann8239

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can't lose to your opponent if you Epstein them with the controller cord

  • @memenazi7078

    @memenazi7078

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nahor88 the fear

  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz3 жыл бұрын

    6:38 I almost expected you to say "He was hired as a developer for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate"

  • @magneticflux-

    @magneticflux-

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, it's that guy!

  • @deathrod123

    @deathrod123

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@magneticflux- (he made all known deaths on icarly)

  • @SommerSen

    @SommerSen

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Ultimate iceberg

  • @user-et3xn2jm1u

    @user-et3xn2jm1u

    3 жыл бұрын

    That cheater's name? Albert Einstein.

  • @catisticallyspeaking

    @catisticallyspeaking

    3 жыл бұрын

    Implying Nintendo likes either the Melee community or People who make mods

  • @PigsSSBM
    @PigsSSBM3 жыл бұрын

    I love all your little background Easter eggs

  • @Shad0wed
    @Shad0wed2 жыл бұрын

    4:36 nice Earthbound reference.

  • @MrGawa-gv3kb
    @MrGawa-gv3kb3 жыл бұрын

    “Master Hnad”

  • @mangaprofilepicture5820

    @mangaprofilepicture5820

    3 жыл бұрын

    Master Hnad

  • @Sup_nw85

    @Sup_nw85

    3 жыл бұрын

    Master Hnad

  • @lucasb316

    @lucasb316

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hnad

  • @SullenSigh

    @SullenSigh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Master Hnad

  • @pancakecommanderandbowser2279

    @pancakecommanderandbowser2279

    3 жыл бұрын

    ZA HANDO

  • @BananaHatProductions
    @BananaHatProductions3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Another video from the best creator. Some of the best content on KZread, keep it up 👍🏼

  • @Ezonater
    @Ezonater3 жыл бұрын

    The song choices on these videos are always awesome

  • @koedurley8582
    @koedurley85823 жыл бұрын

    Bring back the videos! This is the best melee content channel!

  • @Someonewithaspace
    @Someonewithaspace3 жыл бұрын

    *Fox has left the game (VAC Banned from secure server)* *Pichu has left the game (VAC Banned from secure server)*

  • @burritoman2k

    @burritoman2k

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bold of you to assume VAC actually works

  • @liamschermer7901

    @liamschermer7901

    3 жыл бұрын

    "imagine your hacks being so bad that Vac detects them" This post was made by MYGOT gang

  • @Kimarnic

    @Kimarnic

    3 жыл бұрын

    bot rolled

  • @nuulcoolpro

    @nuulcoolpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahhaha guys please laugh I'm making a source reference lmaoooo XD engineer gaming

  • @Someonewithaspace

    @Someonewithaspace

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nuulcoolpro and what did ya wanted me to make? a Easy Anti-cheat reference??

  • @itsthatspicymeme
    @itsthatspicymeme3 жыл бұрын

    I don't cheat. I'm just THAT good.

  • @isaaccruz7080

    @isaaccruz7080

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why the fuck you llllyyyyyin (IDC If it's ded)

  • @MixyTape

    @MixyTape

    3 жыл бұрын

    ok

  • @landronsc

    @landronsc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I dont cheat either. Im just not good

  • @ajeremykidxd

    @ajeremykidxd

    3 жыл бұрын

    He isn't cheating. He just have a really good gaming chair.

  • @muhammadalvinza9013

    @muhammadalvinza9013

    3 жыл бұрын

    I cheat. Im just *that* bad.

  • @shadicgamer2124
    @shadicgamer21243 жыл бұрын

    Pichu: G tier Pichu with cheats: SSSSSSS tier

  • @pasta-and-heroin
    @pasta-and-heroin3 жыл бұрын

    this was awesome man great video

  • @jdp7938

    @jdp7938

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's still here! Idk if you'll see this Asumsaus but your an amazing KZread channel

  • @pasta-and-heroin

    @pasta-and-heroin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jdp7938 yeah man I can't believe he liked my comment so quickly after lol. just wanted to show some support its nice he saw it

  • @jdp7938

    @jdp7938

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pasta-and-heroin indeed

  • @DrCoeloCephalo
    @DrCoeloCephalo3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine unironically still saying "Wavedashing is just cheating and a glitch!" when an actual cheating glitch involves freezing the player animation with Ice Climbers or playing as Master Hnad.

  • @RagnellAvalon

    @RagnellAvalon

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXecxcyMprfah6g.html using freeze glitch on your own teammate to edgeguard Fox Not only for offense, it's for defense too!

  • @YounesLayachi

    @YounesLayachi

    3 жыл бұрын

    ICs freeze glitch was patched in latest melee patch, while wavedashing was not

  • @mangaprofilepicture5820

    @mangaprofilepicture5820

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait there are people that consider it a glitch?? Wave-dashing is definitely just an exploit as it's using an intended feature (directional dodging) an in unintended way (directional dodging towards the ground to keep you moment without any lag)

  • @RagnellAvalon

    @RagnellAvalon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mangaprofilepicture5820 sweet summer child

  • @sobbing_horse

    @sobbing_horse

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@YounesLayachi why would you patch something thats not a glitch lmao

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington3 жыл бұрын

    your videos are so well made. amazing job dude

  • @cheesewizz_

    @cheesewizz_

    5 ай бұрын

    sorry bout yer jets this year, pad

  • @PadChennington

    @PadChennington

    5 ай бұрын

    all I know is pain@@cheesewizz_

  • @silly_mane5239
    @silly_mane52393 жыл бұрын

    I actually love your grunt and scream sound effects

  • @stingyryy
    @stingyryy3 жыл бұрын

    Literally listened to tons of your videos while working, then got home and played a bunch of games with you on Slippi last night. I was the marth with the tag "stingy" GG's! Love the vids.

  • @ERRORDownBad
    @ERRORDownBad3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine being the dude who came into a tournament with a modded Project M just to have custom skins and no modified attacks and gets banned.

  • @ChainChomp

    @ChainChomp

    3 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't most tourneys use a custom build of PM anyways?

  • @ChainChomp

    @ChainChomp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jakedadoge1820 Exactly, modifications to the PSAs themselves rather than to costumes.

  • @ERRORDownBad

    @ERRORDownBad

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ChainChomp Does the "Check the framedata" forbid characters like Scott Pilgrim over Lucas and/or Cloud over Ike?

  • @ChainChomp

    @ChainChomp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ERRORDownBad If those aren't costumes, then IDK how could you sneak that.

  • @marisanya

    @marisanya

    3 жыл бұрын

    Going to PM tournaments with custom mods is completely normal tho

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog3 жыл бұрын

    That hacked Pichu really has bigger hitboxes than most characters in the game.

  • @Mote.
    @Mote.2 жыл бұрын

    All your videos are beautifully edited. I like the part at 5:13 of falco

  • @thaisennj9781
    @thaisennj97813 жыл бұрын

    Yeeash this video editing is high tier. Lemme sub king

  • @joshcummins3916
    @joshcummins39163 жыл бұрын

    4:25 hand is spelled wrong. Awesome video man. I really love the effort you put into the thumbnails and covering topics most people in the community don't talk about.

  • @vincentvalentine9906

    @vincentvalentine9906

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've seen this video a good couple of times, and I've never noticed that once. I guess the editing is so good I just didn't see it.

  • @starfalltea
    @starfalltea3 жыл бұрын

    even though i don't play melee and never plan to competitively, i love your editing and humor! subscribed for it!

  • @callie_yt
    @callie_yt3 жыл бұрын

    I watched this video nearly every week since it came out waiting for the next video

  • @matthewwylie2735
    @matthewwylie27353 жыл бұрын

    1:08 I read that as "Stalling, or excessively delaying the Game and Watch"

  • @Suckmycog
    @Suckmycog3 жыл бұрын

    Dude these videos are insanely high quality. I barely even play melee and Im obsessed. Great work

  • @Mahamaru
    @Mahamaru3 жыл бұрын

    I was today years old when I heard Dean Harrington say "Master Hayn"

  • @nysty1
    @nysty13 жыл бұрын

    This editing tho 👌

  • @ethanreynolds4942
    @ethanreynolds49429 ай бұрын

    Dude, you have had impeccable video creation for years. I can tell your skill has grown in your later videos, but hot dog your older videos still hold that amazing content creation skill. This channel sits high above so many other channels with so many more subs. I am not into melee. Not really anyways. Haven't played since I was a kid. However, I'm glued to every video you have made. The mark of a true creator.

  • @twelvevoltage

    @twelvevoltage

    5 ай бұрын

    Ikr were so blessed to have such amazing content creators

  • @BigothyArchibaldBusiness
    @BigothyArchibaldBusiness3 жыл бұрын

    Dude, loved the Sly 3 soundtrack in the video. Venice Espionage fit WAY more well than I thought. Ironically played during the hackrd Pichu game. Should definently play more of it in the future! Keep up the banger work! 👌

  • @charKT-7461

    @charKT-7461

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was actually the Sly 4 song "I smell a rat". Still awesome regardless

  • @BigothyArchibaldBusiness

    @BigothyArchibaldBusiness

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@charKT-7461 by that standward would that song be based on Venice Espionage? Sounds exactly the same. Lol

  • @TheHeteroHero
    @TheHeteroHero3 жыл бұрын

    Was already getting bored of watching your other videos repeatedly. Jokes aside, I'm always super glad to see your high quality uploads! Cheers

  • @themanofseals3531
    @themanofseals35313 жыл бұрын

    Dude I love your voice and your editing is so good and plus I like the game now because.

  • @diegobanegas9940
    @diegobanegas99403 жыл бұрын

    Dude your channel is awesome, you even have more subscribers than Mang0, keep up this gold content!!

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo43973 жыл бұрын

    6:21 If Pichu was a DLC character

  • @tofu4435
    @tofu44353 жыл бұрын

    As someone who doesn't play melee at all, your vids are just so awesome and entertaining that it encourages me to start playing melee more.

  • @MrNapkino

    @MrNapkino

    3 жыл бұрын

    Melee is sick and super fun to get into, I highly recommend it.

  • @conek6419
    @conek64193 жыл бұрын

    I don’t even play melee but this is my favorite smash channel where did you go

  • @takumagoto6702

    @takumagoto6702

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's back!

  • @Tmathh
    @Tmathh3 жыл бұрын

    i love how ur videos get straight to the point

  • @DementedDuskull
    @DementedDuskull3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I'm actually kinda impressed by how sneaky that Pichu player was

  • @sobo4676
    @sobo46763 жыл бұрын

    Love the sly Cooper music in the back. Nostalgia.

  • @Squidmoto3
    @Squidmoto33 жыл бұрын

    It's kind of interesting, because there are probably far more elaborate cheats out there and they've never been exposed - and probably never will. For example you could bring multiple setups to a tournament, and only have the cheats enabled by a certain characters skin in conjunction with a button combination (one step above what the Pichu player did). Or even set up a special button combination that would make your Wii crash in order to redo a match. Hell you could even add a toggle that makes certain controller slots experience input lag. There's even some small essentially impossible to catch things you could do, like secret toggles for automatic L-cancelling.

  • @PARZ90s

    @PARZ90s

    8 ай бұрын

    Melee from my knowledge is the only game in the FGC where it was the same top players winning for years. Something about Melee was always fishy to me especially with a Pikachu main winning a major then soon after a Yoshi player winning one as well.

  • @RandyRandersonthefamous
    @RandyRandersonthefamous3 жыл бұрын

    Your content is very good. It reminds me of that other late youtuber who did nintendo/melee content

  • @pandabanaan9208
    @pandabanaan92083 жыл бұрын

    0:35 Jokes on you I already sold my soul.

  • @walesjedi9217

    @walesjedi9217

    2 жыл бұрын

    I tried to but all he offered was 62 cents

  • @TheWorldsLargestOven

    @TheWorldsLargestOven

    9 ай бұрын

    I sold my soul to the devil without even knowing what im gonna get

  • @pandabanaan9208

    @pandabanaan9208

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TheWorldsLargestOven lootboxes really are getting insane

  • @Pennywise12528
    @Pennywise125283 жыл бұрын

    When you said Master Hand was the only banned accessible character, I loved the implication that Giga Bowser would be tourney legal, so I went to refresh my memory on if that name glitch thing can let you play as him too. Found a video where Mew2king came across a Giga Bowser in some online Melee thing, and on the fly devised an anti-Giga strat to beat him soundly in the rematch. Well fuck me then.

  • @Nathan-ff3it
    @Nathan-ff3it3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely great taste in outro music my friend. Thieves in Time was an awesome game.

  • @Shaeffen_
    @Shaeffen_3 жыл бұрын

    Please, AsumSaus. Give me a sign that you still exist.

  • @AsumSaus

    @AsumSaus

    3 жыл бұрын

    imgur.com/a/dfTwJem

  • @themeeka

    @themeeka

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dudes just vibing

  • @Shaeffen_

    @Shaeffen_

    3 жыл бұрын

    😀

  • @petephelp971

    @petephelp971

    3 жыл бұрын

    I message him over patreon and nothing... KZread comments: real shit lol

  • @Shaeffen_

    @Shaeffen_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@petephelp971 it worked tho.

  • @Borti_Ovi
    @Borti_Ovi3 жыл бұрын

    Of course there will always be some cheating when there’s money involved, especially in Esports!

  • @zzzlucid_dreams7560

    @zzzlucid_dreams7560

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I guess but just one guy at a local in the almost 20 years this game has been out with no way to cheat online other than lag switchs is pretty solid. I pretty much only play smash and its crazy to me that pretty much every prodigy in non fighting games gets accused of being a cheater for the first year of there competitive life. You cant even stream snipe or anything because they see the same thing as you. Some times I'm really thankful I got into Melee expectually with roll back online now. You dont have to worry about a troll ruining the experience for like 10 people at a time.

  • @Borti_Ovi

    @Borti_Ovi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zzzlucid_dreams7560 That actually surprised me that there are very little cases of actual cheating in Melee’s tournament history and only one worthy of mentioning! Even the “wobbling” and “Luigi ladder” exploit shouldn’t be classified as “cheating” because they are in-game exploits and only counted as such by tournament rule-makers.

  • @aericraadley
    @aericraadley3 жыл бұрын

    0:57 lol i just watched Rocky III last night too haha perfect timing

  • @johnnycrash4892

    @johnnycrash4892

    3 жыл бұрын

    Best one!

  • @Daniel_deez_nutz
    @Daniel_deez_nutz Жыл бұрын

    The exact moment you turned off the GameCube in the video, my video buffered. Perfect timing

  • @Zachruff
    @Zachruff2 жыл бұрын

    ok but why is your editing so smooth wtf

  • @sandros.6371
    @sandros.63713 жыл бұрын

    Fully expected you to talk about sunglasses Juan "reading" down throw DI by peaking at his opponents controllers like a real champ

  • @evaggelos6516
    @evaggelos65163 жыл бұрын

    Legend has it that this video was the cause of competitive hacking, which has now risen by 30000%.

  • @pokeman123451

    @pokeman123451

    3 жыл бұрын

    i could believe this. ive actually been worried about iso modding for a while lol

  • @YetAnotherSpyMain
    @YetAnotherSpyMain3 жыл бұрын

    Straight up, I would love to just see a series where you just play Netplay or something and talk for a while. A podcast type of thing, y'know

  • @Diwasho
    @Diwasho3 жыл бұрын

    1:20 I had NO idea Dedede flies by in the BG of this stage and I played so much on it. Somehow never noticed him.

  • @AmiiboDoctor
    @AmiiboDoctor3 жыл бұрын

    That last one reminds me of some of the issues with cheating we've had in competitive amiibo

  • @cgnfake6721
    @cgnfake67213 жыл бұрын

    2:02 you can feel the unbridled rage with those sfx LMAO

  • @bungabean3292
    @bungabean32923 жыл бұрын

    Where did AsumSaus go?

  • @skibel

    @skibel

    3 жыл бұрын

    check his Twitter

  • @ValyxNEO
    @ValyxNEO2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love the Mother 2/Earthbound references with Master Hand.

  • @colt9758
    @colt97583 жыл бұрын

    I don’t even play melee but I watch lol, that’s how good these vids are

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