Cheat Developers Raking In More Cash Than Battle State Games

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In this video Matt and I will explain the economics of cheating in Escape From Tarkov using simple math and logical assumptions. Cheaters have been rampant in Tarkov this wipe and this has brought the subject to our attention. We just want to help the community by explaining the difference between Battle State Games net revenue and the potential revenue that cheat companies make on a yearly basis. Net revenue is the amount of money a company makes after expenses. A cheating software business can be assumed to be a SAS or software as a service company. These companies typically make 80% gross margin for every product sold. Gross margin is the companies revenue after direct expenses. Matt and I will drill down on some of the numbers in the video, comparing BSG's net income compared to what a cheat companies net income could be. Please consider cheat developers may not be paying taxes and most likely have little overhead cost. Hope you enjoy the video. Cheers!
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  • @cp627
    @cp6273 ай бұрын

    I played Tarkov heavily like 6 wipes ago. The cheaters and hackers permanently chase me away. I have friends who have literally had their accounts hacked a stolen. No, ESG. Those guy were cheating and is going to destroy Tark. I loved Tark. It just is not fun when over half your matches have people cheating.

  • @joboisselle5038
    @joboisselle50383 ай бұрын

    Experimented the same thing 2 days ago, my friend and I, night time on Woods, we both had thermal scop we got killed from a guy that had no thermal blocker nothing, he killed us through dense bushes and trees. Tarkov got cancer cheaters it’s insane.Sometimes we get killed by guys with no hours in the game with 25 K/D it makes just no sense at all Tarkov is the good shooter but BSG’s dev are not making the good decisions to keep there game alive, you get a good game out on the market and Tarkov will die in a matter of weeks

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    Fair points. I have experienced the same thing. I don't know if the large companies can pull off what BSG has done with Tarkov. The game, other than the cheaters, is exceptional.

  • @min0tauer
    @min0tauer3 ай бұрын

    Bros, the bad thing is, you don't even need to go into a raid to find tons of cheaters. Just go to the flea market and look at the flea market reputation of several players. I recently saw someone who had a reputation of 160+. This means he had to make around 800,000,000 rubles in sales. His stats were so obvious about it. LV32+, 70%+ survival rate, 14+ K/D, only 450+ PMC raids (no Scav runs) and approx. 250h of playing time. I didn't have stats like that in my first 250h. I've never had a flea market rep over 20 in my 5,000h since 2019, but people with 200h make 800,000,000 rubles in sales and don't play Scav? The guys make over 1,200,000 rubles per raid, if you deduct the raids for the first 15LV and the third that dies, then the sum becomes even larger. You can find cheaters faster and easier at the flea market than you can in any raid. But I have to agree with you, the raids definitely feel weirder than they did in the past. Hardly any fight is fun. You often have the feeling that your opponents had a lot of additional information...

  • @mycryptojourney69
    @mycryptojourney693 ай бұрын

    I started playing tarkov not that long ago in this wipe 240 hours on the game around 650 raids etc .... Saw the Wiggle video Saw VeryBadScav videos saw hackers doing charity streams not being banned for literally years. Every few matches there is someone running naked headshotting everyone or shooting threw the doors etc etc etc. Yesterday i was playing Factory Night i was matched with a hacker. He saw that i am from the same country as he is as i had it in my nickname. He ran across the map and started talking to me in my own language over the wall without seeing me. We had a conversation he did not kill me but well that was more then a wake up call really. I am not playing that game again its not worth the nerves. And BSG with their Ceo are sacks of shit doing fuck all about all this.

  • @theiceninja7265
    @theiceninja72653 ай бұрын

    aa was such of fun game back in the day i played it everyday thought it was so cool when it came out god im getting old

  • @CocaineCobain
    @CocaineCobain3 ай бұрын

    The issue with the cheating is that it's fairly prevalent, but also clouds the minds of most casual players. Me and my buddies have been playing for a few years and all have around 8-10 KD's. We get a couple PMC kills in every raid, and I would say at least 4 times a week one of us gets a friend request from someone that we killed accusing us of cheats. We literally have a discord channel solely for hackusation screenshots lol. The problem is that players are just reporting everyone at this point, and I can't blame them, but a lot of it comes down to ego issues. Many players believe they are much better than they actually are. We definitely report players that are fairly blatant, but another big issue is desync. I would say desync is one of the bigger issues that leads to cheat claims as well.

  • @CocaineCobain

    @CocaineCobain

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ocelotgg1803 I don't think you know how to use that retort. lol

  • @tangfastictommy4883

    @tangfastictommy4883

    3 ай бұрын

    I regularly have issues with desync, I always call out cheater as I die but when I watch my screen cap I can see the desync i've only really had a hand full of issue with cheaters i am a timmy tho and any good cheater would leave me be knowing i'm not worth killing

  • @CocaineCobain

    @CocaineCobain

    3 ай бұрын

    @@tangfastictommy4883 Lol ya if ur not geared you might be safe, but even if you were its still hard to tell. I sometimes join the EFT discord server and play with randoms. One time I got into a group with 3 friends and one of them was a cheater. He used radar and didnt use aimbot or anything like that. They would use the radar to get nade/pmc kills way too easily, but if you fought them you wouldn't be able to tell. They were soooo discreet and it took about 2 weeks or so of playing with them before they told me how they knew where to go find fights. This was a couple years ago when I was new myself, but it opened my eyes to the reality of cheating. I ended up submitting a report to BSG on the forums regarding those 3 players, but nothing came of it. They would still hit me up to play months later, but I eventually blocked them. The majority of cheaters are good enough at it that you won't even know they're cheating.

  • @legionclown2656
    @legionclown26563 ай бұрын

    I find it wierd since bsg can literally ban all users that are named abs-'username" or when they ban a cheater they can see that they have alts that have literally the exact same name with an aditional number.

  • @watsica3172
    @watsica31722 ай бұрын

    The issue with cheater is that they only think about them they dont understand that when they do that they ruins the experience of legit player and im 100% sure that they dont even have fun when they do cheat they just want to show "how good they are" at the game or be assholl

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    2 ай бұрын

    True, it’s a pretty destructive thing to do. But a lot of people profit from it, unfortunately.

  • @kpahk
    @kpahk3 ай бұрын

    at this point im ok to pay monthly subscription to play on cheater free server, and with these money they should keep the servers clean (like VAC or smth) because it's not worth anymore (i have 5k hours and 8 wipes and every wipe is worse than previous one)

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    I like your idea.

  • @tangfastictommy4883
    @tangfastictommy48833 ай бұрын

    dose this give an incentive to BSG or other game companies to develop there own cheats for much larger profit

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't think so because that would ruin their primary source of income. If that info every came to light, they would lose everything.

  • @multiplenames4877

    @multiplenames4877

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ESG1i think if they could they would but as you said, if it came to light then the risk vs reward just isn't worth it. If it came to light the game would lose alot of it's playerbase very quickly

  • @NK_XK1

    @NK_XK1

    3 ай бұрын

    they already do lmao

  • @tangfastictommy4883

    @tangfastictommy4883

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ESG1 yes this is true if this were to ever get out it would ruin reputations but is it worth trying (devils advocate)

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    Not in my opinion but I am not much of a gambler. I think you would be looking at being sued and your reputation would be ruined if you were found out.

  • @enricobononi8655
    @enricobononi86553 ай бұрын

    Nice video on Arma

  • @layeredcloud
    @layeredcloud3 ай бұрын

    ive played for 3 wipes...cheaters inna online game are less than human, seen more men on Golden girls...

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    Golden Girls! So hilarious dude, thanks for making me laugh.

  • @Alteracious
    @Alteracious3 ай бұрын

    It seems like your analysis is comparing BSG's NET profit, to the aproximated GROSS Income of the Cheat networks (unknown operating expenses), It would be far more accurate to use the gross income of BSG instead (~79.5m USD)

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    As stated in the video, cheat developers expenses were considered low due to no taxes. Good point though, we neglected to mention low operating costs. We feel their teams are small and don't have to maintain nearly as many servers. It is our view that they operate as a SAS or software as a service business. SAS businesses typically have 80% margins but cheat companies could have as high as 90 to 95% margins. I will delve further into BSG's financials in my next video.

  • @MrAnilrambo
    @MrAnilrambo2 ай бұрын

    What if bsg taking cut from cheat sellers

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    2 ай бұрын

    Then Tarkov could die along with their company.

  • @Silenttarget
    @Silenttarget3 ай бұрын

    Man I even got told by eft South African that RMT is not cheating, only against TOS, after we asked about a profile that had 3600 raids, 3600 deaths, 21 kills and only level 3, damn cheaters are getting more defended than normal players. Btw I got banned from the official tarkov south africa discord and facebook page for standing up to this admin and streamer. He DMed me and I kept it all

  • @Anas-lw5rm
    @Anas-lw5rm3 ай бұрын

    in eu servers I'm playing on, more than 50% of players are cheaters, this wipe cheaters are more than ever

  • @Lamoot01
    @Lamoot013 ай бұрын

    Cheats are at plague proportion. I hope BSG truly fix this or it’s going to die. Out of my trio of EFT players I’m the last still playing this wipe due to the problem. Pity….

  • @AndreBrah
    @AndreBrah3 ай бұрын

    Are cheat developers making more than BSG??? Maths are simple, you pay BSG up to 100 euro for the game licence. And it lasts for "forever" years and years. Cheat devs charge 100 to 200 euros a month for their service. If lets say we consider a 3 year time period, BSG has earned maybe 60 euro after taxes Lets estimate the same user subscribed for 6 months worth of cheats, thats up to 1200 euro, untaxed BGS spends almost all their income into marketing and development. Cheat devs spend much less, there might be just a dozen ppl working on a given cheat, and they just need to keep it up to date. That all means... it takes just an estimated "occasional" cheater every 40 players to earn the same profits for the cheat devs, as BSG over a 3 year time span, where the cheater cheated for just 6 months (accounting for both parties development expenses and server upkeeps for BGS)... simple math. and we can all agree... theres likely far more cheaters than 1 in 40 (wich would be just 2% of playerbase btw)

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank u for the comment. Video dropping soon that will give u an overview of BSG’s financials from their publicly posted balance sheet.

  • @TheBen9701
    @TheBen97013 ай бұрын

    I can’t believe you are spreading so much misinformation! Cheating is impossible in tarkov due to BattleEye AntiCheat! When will the players realize others are just better. 😢 (Comment paid for by ABS)

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @alexandercochran4013
    @alexandercochran40133 ай бұрын

    I mean I get it, but none of those commentors really care and are likely just fucking with you. And it worked because you spent 5 minutes crying about trolls at the start of an otherwise interesting topic.

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    Fair points. We will resolve to do better. I do not regret sharing our opinions though because we have no hidden agenda's here and just want to help the community.

  • @alexandercochran4013

    @alexandercochran4013

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ESG1 aye fair enough king, you do you, just don’t get caught up in what idiots on the internet say. Half of them are intentionally stupid and the other half are doing it unintentionally so nothing you say to them will change the reality of the youtube comment section. Love you homie

  • @ESG1

    @ESG1

    3 ай бұрын

    Much love man!

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