EPIC X - very cinematic image, beautilfull, has texture, glossy, organic, depth Komodo x - sharp and graceless, looks like a video camera, a high price sony mirrorless

@gregtockner

4 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s quite as bad as a Sony haha but I know what you mean. They did go back in the right direction with the Komodo X though, quite a bit better than the Komodo in respect to that

@TheCoralClimb

3 ай бұрын

Totally agree! Had two old Red Epic then switched to Arri and now I’m struggling to find a camera that delivers the same look out of the box, every sensor feels somehow very digital

i think mx sensor is one of the best digital cinema sensors ever made

"They both black" "This idiot... " That almost kill me🤣, btw nice vid bro, keep it up

@gregtockner

5 ай бұрын

Thanks bro. At least reached one person with our dumb humour 😂

Nothin beats the dragon sensor! Legacy colours and the IPP2. I love komodo-x too although my Scarlet W 5k is just beautiful.

@gregtockner

5 ай бұрын

Yeah Dragon is one of the Best looking sensors

Even RED itself is going to have a hard time surpassing the overall desire and reputation of a Dragon sensor, which I believe is the same sensor in the DSMC2, just with more processing power and other enhancements. Sure, the KX is great and lightweight, which can make a big difference compared to the DSMC1/2. It also has some of the most modern and latest features, like app control and all that, but the Dragon still has 16+ stops of dynamic range, great color science, and the most important feature the one that sets you apart from a professional cinematographer and a mediocre one is the RED logo on the DSMC series 😂 cheers

@gregtockner

Ай бұрын

Yeah honestly the biggest thing is probably weight and size. Although I have to say I like a bit of weight for handheld shooting 😅

haha I just came from work, opened YT and though to myself: would be cool to see a video from Greg now. and here we are haha. good stuff brother! cool your friend jumped onboard too!

@gregtockner

5 ай бұрын

Haha thanks brother, at least that means that my somewhat regular schedule seems to be working 😅

@mamoastudio

5 ай бұрын

hahaha exactly @@gregtockner

Can you guys do another, camera A vs Camera B and let us guess which one looks better, thank you!

@gregtockner

5 ай бұрын

That should certainly be doable :)

one thing you missed in this video is to notice how much smoother, reach and natural (film-like) the MX sensor is. red one and epic (same sensor) still are the best look achieved from red.

@gregtockner

4 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely a point if you just straight up convert it in perfect lighting conditions otherwise I think the flexibility of the newer sensors is more useful

@francescod2965

4 ай бұрын

Yes, for sure new sensors and cameras in general have better resolution and color science. it all comes down to a personal choice of look or artistic needs :) @@gregtockner

cant beat the dragon sensor tbh. that global shutter in the KX though is great

More videos with that blonde handsome fella! 🤩 Next video idea: "Can you spot the difference between a RED and a potato on KZread?"

@gregtockner

5 ай бұрын

Well the only Problem with that is that neither of us own a Nikon 😂

@xosemusic

5 ай бұрын

@@gregtocknerlmao…good one

Finally someone making a comparison between those 2 generations of cameras, Thank you.. While KX has more informations in the shadows, Epic-x highlights are "fuller" (hair and neck of the subject), i feel like k-x needs to be stopped down 2/3 or a stop to match the exposure of the epic. Can you please make a longer comparison? Both cameras in "IPP2" and both in "legacy mode" also? To see the difference of those sensors under the same "color space / gamma".. Also, R3D stills of this comparison would be extremely generous of you, as a dsm1 owner, i would like to know if Komodo-x can match the organic feel of MX sensor by tweaking some parameters.. Thank you again!

@gregtockner

5 ай бұрын

Hi, comparing the image itself between the two is definitely something I can look into might take a vitamin until a Video like that is coming though :) Just fyi. the clips in here were also with both of them in IPP2, I’ll add a link to the description with the download for the R3D of the couch shot for both cameras as soon as I can

@max_busse

5 ай бұрын

Just a sidenote to that footage: I used a cheap ass lens + a 1/4 diffusion filter on the KX so we should probably do a test with better comparability. 😂

@C-Carter75

5 ай бұрын

@@gregtockner Interesting to know that both were in IPP2 .. Looking forward for the follow up.. Thanks!

@C-Carter75

5 ай бұрын

@@max_busse That would be great ;) With DSMC1 getting cheaper and cheaper, a lot of people woul like to know how those two generations compare to each other, especially in terms of pure image quality and "cinematic feel"..

@nonameexpdng

2 ай бұрын

I can say I was on a set through last june and july and we used a Scarlet-W as A cam and Komodo as B cam. The DP (who is also the colorist) said the Komodo was a nightmare compared to the organic pictures of the Dragon sensor in the Scarlet. "Nightmare" might be overkill but I agree on the fact that the Komodo is definitely more "plasticky" than any body with a Dragon sensor in it.

KX in my experience is definately more akin to dragon latitude and image quality rather then mx, about the same underexposure latitude with dragon edging out the overexposure by 2/3 stops. Still very impressive for a global shutter sensor, and it has next to 0 FPN. It is one stop more sensitive to light tho, as dragon and mx and m sensor all rates 1 stop lower then the number would actually indicate. MX seems like a very fun and interesting sensor though, would love to own one one day.

@gregtockner

5 ай бұрын

Mx is still really good looking but yeah Dragon would definitely hold up better in comparison. It would actually edge out the KX? That’s interesting, I mean I know that Global shutters tend to have less Latitude but I guess I was just thinking that in 10 years between the sensors they would’ve been able to compensate for that but you might have just sent me down a rabbit hole of looking into that haha

@crappyfish1235

5 ай бұрын

@@gregtockner yes 10 years in sensor tech should have made up for the difference in performance, but you look at the sony f55's global shutter sensor from 2011 vs the komodo, it actually still performs better in terms of sensitivity and latitude vs the komodo og. Also the dragon sensor with the lowlight optimized OLPF has even more usable latitude then the alexa, so it's honestly the best sensor next to the v raptor x that red ever made.

Nikon just bought RED btw haha!

@gregtockner

4 ай бұрын

Bro I already saw, I really hope they don’t change too much, not looking forward to a Komdo with a Z mount, but if they drop a Z8ii with a Red Sensor and R3D Raw I might consider a Nikon for the first time ever 😂

@mamoastudio

4 ай бұрын

Hahaha I thought the same thing!@@gregtockner