Cheap vs Luxury | Travelling London to Edinburgh on Lumo vs Caledonian Sleeper

There are two STARKLY different options for traveling London to Edinburgh, the brand new, budget LUMO train and the luxurious Caledonian Sleeper train. But which train to Edinburgh is better? I put both of them to the test to see if comfort and privacy on the Caledonian Sleeper would beat the less-than-£20 tickets for the Lumo. Which is the best train from London to Edinburgh?
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0:04 - Caledonian Sleeper review
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  • @kyriacosgeorgiou5379
    @kyriacosgeorgiou53792 жыл бұрын

    I always take the Sleeper when I’m travelling to Scotland - while I’m alive and working on the Railway I have to take advantage of my 75% discount 😎

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oo fab!

  • @paulroach2538

    @paulroach2538

    2 жыл бұрын

    You must work on the railway

  • @TheSuzberry

    @TheSuzberry

    2 жыл бұрын

    😯

  • @stephenrichardson9540

    @stephenrichardson9540

    2 жыл бұрын

    Scotland is not a town/city it's a country if you ask for a tkt to Scotland you will obviously be asked whereabout in Scotland if you're going to Inverness and decide to get off at dumfries you'll soon realise Scotland is not 1 place 😉

  • @idgafcba

    @idgafcba

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stephenrichardson9540 no sh*t sherlock, it's a youtube comment, taking a stance about the specificity of Scottish towns/cities when booking a train ticket is pedantic and boring, JFC, try being a smart arse for something that matters

  • @Argyll1000
    @Argyll10002 жыл бұрын

    Hallelujah an American who can pronounce Edinburgh! I'm not a fan of sleepers. For 15 years I travelled back and forth from Edinburgh to London to collect my son. I used the sleeper once. Same thing, I think I slept for 20 mins. Never did it after that.

  • @technojunkie123
    @technojunkie1232 жыл бұрын

    I've taken the Caledonian Sleeper train twice (both times in the normal economy seat) and it's pretty good! As a tourist I think the biggest benefit of the Caledonian Sleeper vs Lumo is that going between cities I save SO MUCH TIME by traveling through the night on the CS that's "dead time" while traveling as a tourist. Instead of having to spend 1/3 of my normal day traveling during the day, I've gotten to spend the whole day in London/Edinburgh, leave the city late at night & sleep on the train, and then I'm up and refreshed(ish) to drop off my bags at my accommodation and spend another full day in a new city. Time (and vacation days!) are precious while traveling and if you want to stretch the time you have in the UK then the CS is definitely the way to go, even if it costs a bit more.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    All good points. Thanks for watching!!

  • @bingboyify

    @bingboyify

    2 жыл бұрын

    totally agree, by taking this sleeper train, tourists can save at least half a day and the need to book a hotel room

  • @tijay8507

    @tijay8507

    2 жыл бұрын

    *got not gotten lol!

  • @bl00dhoney
    @bl00dhoney2 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE sleeping on overnight trains. The sound and movement send me straight to the land of nod

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Thanks for watching

  • @deannaylor2576
    @deannaylor25762 жыл бұрын

    Love taking sleeper trains. Always sleep well, even with the rocking and rumbling down the track. I think 27 years in the Royal Navy being on ships and at sea has the same sort of noises and the rocking of the ship over the waves, gives you a similar experience. So maybe I’m used to it. Would love to do the Orient Express. Great watch Jess.👍

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching Dean!

  • @cuzuvmcvoy
    @cuzuvmcvoy5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I needed info re this. I luv how concise you are. No fillers and silly nonsense to extend ur videos. Just direct to the point. ❤❤❤

  • @adamlea6339
    @adamlea63392 жыл бұрын

    I've used the sleeper a handful of times for getting to the highlands, and it is ideal in terms of timing, arrive and can start hiking immediately. It is optimal for point to point backpacking, such as the Minigaig, where the sleeper serves both villages at each end of the route. My issue with it is that it is overhyped. It is not a hotel on wheels, it is more like a backpackers hostel on wheels that you are paying city hotel prices for, and if you live outside London you have the additional cost of getting to Euston. It is far more cost effective to get a daytime train to your destination and stay overnight in a modestly priced B&B, and it will be more comfortable (you will sleep much better and get a decent breakfast and shower).

  • @stevenj3152
    @stevenj31522 жыл бұрын

    When I lived in London, and wanted to go home for a visit, I always loved the convenience of the sleeper train. Even though I lived right by Heathrow, I preferred getting that late night train, not arriving on the other side out in the sticks and having to travel into town like you would a plane is a real benefit. For me I could do a full days work, and get the overnight train after and be in Scotland the next day without feeling like I lost a day travelling. Somehow though I did prefer the older sleeper trains to the new ones, some of the issues with the new trains have been ironed out but I still feel the older trains even though they were aging had a little more character.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah exactly, and even the travel time to/from the airports basically make the lumo train time exactly the same amount!

  • @simondavey7787
    @simondavey77872 жыл бұрын

    I love that you are doing a train comparison. I'm particularly interested in this one as I love night trains.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it, thanks for watching Simon!

  • @Mat-eq8mk
    @Mat-eq8mk8 ай бұрын

    Oh that's weird. I loved the bumps and the noise on the sleeper. I think I slept better than I ever have. It was like being rocked to sleep.

  • @hr167102
    @hr1671022 жыл бұрын

    Love the video thank you. Please keep more videos coming, would love to hear more about Scotland.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's it for Scotland but I'm glad you've enjoyed the content, thanks for watching!

  • @juanmeowmix1530
    @juanmeowmix15302 жыл бұрын

    Great video, it's good to see the different options for trains!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Juan!

  • @vinniesuperstar8923
    @vinniesuperstar89232 жыл бұрын

    I've done the lowlander too, it was a shock to open the blinds at Edinburgh to see a crowded platform of early morning commuters. Glad I was fully clothed!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol. thanks for watching Vinnie!

  • @patsyfoister684
    @patsyfoister6842 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Good to know about Lumo, since I will be traveling from London to Edinburgh by train and it will save money since I will have to pay for Covid tests when I finally get to visit from U.S. in May 2022! Love your videos!!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it Patsy!

  • @taylornyc4
    @taylornyc42 жыл бұрын

    Extremely informative video. Thanks for making it.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much!

  • @colindee5480
    @colindee54802 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed that video Jess . Very informative . The " luxury " private compartment on the way up not cheap IMO and there's another level above the one you took . That's the equivalent of about 50% of the airfare from North America to the UK but for a one time experience I'd probably do it . The economy train ride back didn't look too bad especially if you are on a budget . No wonder it's crowded . I liked how you compared the options available . Great info as always . Thank you .

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Really glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching Colin.

  • @andrewclark8630
    @andrewclark86302 жыл бұрын

    What a great video, brilliantly presented.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed it Andrew!

  • @PortageurCa
    @PortageurCa Жыл бұрын

    Oh this was helpful. I was just looking into both these train options. Great to get a shot of the cabin. Thanks!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    Жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @warriorsoul7893
    @warriorsoul78932 жыл бұрын

    A very good and informative video, to the point. Great job 👏🏼

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed it, thank you.

  • @ljrigsbee
    @ljrigsbee2 жыл бұрын

    I also took the sleeper a couple of years ago to Edinburgh. Also keep in mind (especially if you’re a light sleeper!) that you probably won’t be able to check into your hotel until early afternoon. They will usually hold your luggage for you until check in though.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup good point. It was many hours until I could lay down for a quick snooze! Thanks for watching Laura.

  • @bubwar9716
    @bubwar9716 Жыл бұрын

    Many Thanks for your wonderful information and Guides. People of good people like you who are willing to educate other first time traveller's that made us comfortable to travel anywhere in the world. Planning to travel to UK in October so watching your videos is quite 👌 interesting. I am enlightened by you. Many Thanks.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you're enjoying it all!

  • @mccniall
    @mccniall2 жыл бұрын

    The bumpiness is of paramount importance, thanks for pointing this out! The Acela from New York - DC is so bumpy it makes work almost impossible, and walking back from the cafe to your seat is like skiing a black run. Serious concentration required!

  • @hugitkissitloveit8640

    @hugitkissitloveit8640

    10 ай бұрын

    100%

  • @lorijohnston4311
    @lorijohnston43112 жыл бұрын

    My sister and I took the sleeper from Edinburgh to London back in 2019. We had the same room you did and yes, it was tight. We had to store one suitcase in the bathroom (which, of course, had to be moved if anyone needed the facilities.) I slept better than she did (and I had the top bunk) but it's definitely not a quiet ride. We did have breakfast in the dining car, which was a nice experience, in that we shared our table with a lady traveling solo for business. I'm glad to have had the experience (especially since our trains here in the US aren't nearly as affordable and accessible) but if I were to ever do it again, I'd want my own compartment.

  • @ilokivi
    @ilokivi Жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for this guide. Partner wants to visit Edinburgh, hoping to do this next summer and the comparisons are very on point.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! Thanks for watching :)

  • @robelliott9865
    @robelliott98652 жыл бұрын

    My wife and I were in a Caledonian Double on the Caledonian Sleeper from Inverness on 6th December for a few days away in London. Great double bed, excellent dinner and breakfast. It just got a bit warm when they turned off the A/C during the 3 hour stop in Edinburgh. Overall a really great experience, if rather more expensive compared to our usual 1h30m flight on easyJet. I definitely recommend the sleeper.

  • @bjoernaltmann

    @bjoernaltmann

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine they switched off the AC in summer. Crazy

  • @davewilliams639
    @davewilliams6392 жыл бұрын

    Well done. I love taking the trains in the UK. The train from Dublin to Belfast was totally enjoyable and the scenery was awesome. Thanks for another fantastic video.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes that's a lovely train ride. Thanks so much for watching Dave.

  • @rykmat2542

    @rykmat2542

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dublin is not part of the UK and Belfast is too. But Belfast is still occupied by this violent barbaristan.

  • @wetcardie66

    @wetcardie66

    2 жыл бұрын

    having a broader gauge in ireland certainly helps the ride quality

  • @cavespider6665
    @cavespider66652 жыл бұрын

    Great and very informative vid. Every Lumo service for about 2 months after launch was almost completely booked. Having ridden on one myself I can't see what all the hype was all about (though I only rode between Newcastle and Morpeth) Caledonian Sleeper looks quite good. Definitely want to do that in the future

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @gnhansen29
    @gnhansen292 жыл бұрын

    Jess it's great to see your new videos about traveling around the UK.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're enjoying them! Thanks for watching ♥️

  • @RedBlob88
    @RedBlob882 жыл бұрын

    I really like travelling on the Caledonian sleeper especially the cool staff members that look after us. Will was a legend when we was on our journey. Definitely worth the time through the dead time as a tourist.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Staff were lovely!

  • @samjones4327
    @samjones43272 жыл бұрын

    Once again, thank u for a very cool adventure! I'm a lover of trains so this one was near and dear to my heart! I think I'm team Lumo on this go round!!! It shows that more expensive is not better for sure! Plus the views you get to experience on the Lumo are worth more than anything, that is if you're not travelling at night. The cabins on the Caledonian are just too small for two people and were almost too small for you! I just don't see two people travelling comfortably on this line. But nonetheless, both have it's ups and downs but for me, the Lumo wins the prize on this one! As always thanks for a wonderful showcase and I look forward to the next adventure! Cheers!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! thanks so much for watching, glad you enjoyed it Sam!

  • @cjay6547
    @cjay65472 жыл бұрын

    Awesome host and a great video ✌️❤️👍

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @marklittle6408
    @marklittle64082 жыл бұрын

    Great video, love your spec frames 👍❤️

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Mark!

  • @prashantmishra1994
    @prashantmishra19942 жыл бұрын

    Hi there! It was a great video.That's because,it was an informative as to traveling around the UK. Regards.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Prashant.

  • @petersloane252
    @petersloane2522 жыл бұрын

    Cale sleeper into Inverness is the best. Bikes have a dedicated carriage & a quick single malt before turning in is the answer Jess 😴... Wake up to bacon butty and coffee, the Highlands scenery and cycle around for a few days.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cool! Thanks so much for watching Peter.

  • @alexmcwhirter6611
    @alexmcwhirter66112 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for both an entertaining and informative video. Those Cal Sleeper trains are quite new and they've been plagued by endless issues which, even now, haven't been rectified (in the case of the showers). As for Lumo ... well it was allowed to compete against LNER as it's a novel product (compared to our conventional operators) and it aims to attract the sort of traveller who might take low-cost carriers like EZY (Ryanair does not ply the route). Lumo has caught the public's imagination and its trains are fully booked for weeks ahead. It doesn't help that Lumo operates five coach trains only. Over the coming months Lumo hopes to increase service frequency. As you say the trains are brand new and were manufactured by Hitachi at its Italian plant.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Thanks for watching! Appreciate it!

  • @brianmorrison9168
    @brianmorrison91682 жыл бұрын

    Firstly, a great film and a great idea to show the two options. @9:02 passing the Angel of the North at Gateshead, will have come after the Tyne bridges, which are shown @9:04 Regards from Whitley Bay (near Newcastle)

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @nandanbhanusharma8971
    @nandanbhanusharma89712 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jess, nice one as usual. Please make a vlog on British Pullman/Belmond Experiences too :) Thanks

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @joelpacheco7360
    @joelpacheco7360 Жыл бұрын

    I really like your railway videos. Thank you :)

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Joel, I appreciate you taking the time to watch :)

  • @OFFICIALDJFLASHBACK
    @OFFICIALDJFLASHBACK2 жыл бұрын

    I'm waiting for the Love & London Geoff Marshall collab now that there's a train video!!!

  • @kpdowd4221
    @kpdowd42212 жыл бұрын

    Train video nerd here. Have watched a couple of hundred. Maybe because I “know” you (longtime follower), but I felt this was better than all the others I’ve seen. More please! Maybe Paris on the Eurostar?

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @bingboyify
    @bingboyify2 жыл бұрын

    im soo jealous!! taking the train in Europe feels so romantic and nostalgia. i need to take the Caledonian Sleeper club room once in my life even though im a light sleeper too. i will put on ear plugs then covered with my noise cancelling headphones.

  • @bingboyify

    @bingboyify

    2 жыл бұрын

    the included breakfast is kinda disappointing though, do they have anything warm to order??? otherwise, I will just wait until i get off the train to eat since it arrives so early anyway.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Yes they do have warm breakfast options too! nothing vegetarian though, if I remember correctly (although I like granola anyways.) Thanks so much for watching!

  • @kk-fl4pb
    @kk-fl4pb2 жыл бұрын

    The Night Riviera from London Paddington to Penzance in Cornwall is cheaper and quite comfortable to sleep in. The access to the lounges at both the stations at Penzance and Paddington is a bonus too (showers, coffee, snacks, comfy chairs). Also melatonin is a must for me for sleep on planes and trains.

  • @bobs52702

    @bobs52702

    Жыл бұрын

    Olio 9

  • @gemmarie7683
    @gemmarie76832 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant. I am a transport enthusiast and regularly watch Noel Philips and Geoff Marshall videos. I've subscribed to you now too.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed this Gem, thanks so much!

  • @analauragomezponce3290
    @analauragomezponce32902 жыл бұрын

    Love trains in the Uk. I 've travelled by train to Edingburgh twice and really enjoyed the landscape .

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Thanks for watching Ana

  • @kevinhaire1855

    @kevinhaire1855

    2 жыл бұрын

    How are you today Laura Gomez

  • @Retiredtraveler1961
    @Retiredtraveler19612 ай бұрын

    I did the Caledonian sleeper from Edinburgh to London in 1991, best smoothest most comfortable ride I’ve ever ever had.

  • @jimbegin6554
    @jimbegin65542 жыл бұрын

    Good to get a review from a non-train buff (anoraks 😉). I accept there are compromises to be made on sleepers, however the price does appear a bit steep. Maybe sleep on the bottom bunk - less swaying/bumps perhaps? Being subscribed I’m surprised I’ve not had notifications for your channel recently? Anyway, Happy Crimbo🎄🎅🦌❄️

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't lift my suitcase to the top bunk! I actually felt more space up top anyways ;) Thanks so much for watching Jim!

  • @jasonalverio8487
    @jasonalverio84872 жыл бұрын

    Great and informative video Jess! Makes me miss traveling with what is going on. Btw I didn't know you wear glasses.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Jason!

  • @SimonEllwood
    @SimonEllwood2 жыл бұрын

    My wife and I took the sleeper both too and after our West Highland Way hike (To Glasgow, From Fort William). We shared a cheaper room with no en-suite the space is fine as we spent 99 percent of the time in our bunks. The trip up was OK and I got broken sleep but OK to function the next day. The trip back was better as it started earlier and we had great views as we drank a bottle of wine in the restaurant car. The one thing I would mention is that I am 5' 10" and think the bunk may be too short for taller people.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sure! Thanks for watching Simon

  • @egpx
    @egpx2 жыл бұрын

    I've done the Caledonian Sleeper twice but I'm in no rush to do it again. The first time was to Fort William and I got an upgrade from the club room as featured in this video to the Caledonian Double which was great. On the face of it, it was a brilliant trip, leaving Euston at 21:15, a nice meal in the club car, a double(ish) bed to sleep in, en-suite facilities, a shower in the morning, breakfast in the club car as we proceeded along the stunning West Highland Line, even the arrival in Fort William was 45 minute late which meant I could claim half the fare back! What's not to like? Well, there was the cold shower for a start, a common problem on the Caledonian Sleeper I believe. The biggest problem, however, was the ride quality and noise level. Despite being a new, the train rattles, rolls, bounces and sways and whilst noise is inevitable I'd have hoped for better sound-proofing in a new carriage. I did manage to get some sleep but not until the train had split at Edinburgh at 4am. The second trip was just a few days ago when I travelled to Glasgow. I'd booked a standard room which is the same as the club room only without the en-suite. The bedding and pillows are good but the bed is really quite small, perhaps I should have tried the upper one rather than the lower. The ride quality has not improved, in fact it was worse than I remembered, possibly because the room was directly over one of the carriage's bogies. I didn't get much sleep and frankly that is the most important thing when booking a sleeper. The clue is in the name... Whilst I have found Caledonian Sleeper to be ultimately disappointing, I'm eager to try some other overnight trains just to see if it is possible to actually get a decent night's sleep on one. The GWR Sleeper down to Penzance appeals to me.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice. thanks for watching

  • @alexmcwhirter6611

    @alexmcwhirter6611

    2 жыл бұрын

    The new rolling stock was built by CAF in Spain. There have been many teething issues. GWR sleeper uses the tried and tested 40-year old BR rolling stock which has been skillfully refurbished. One minus point is the lack of en suite toilet / shower.

  • @egpx

    @egpx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexmcwhirter6611 they’ve been running for three years now so you’d have thought they would have ironed out those teething problems by now. The problem of the poor ride quality is, I suspect, one they can’t fix. I need to try the GWR sleeper, an en suite would be nice but I wouldn’t miss the almost inevitable cold shower provided by the new Caledonian stock.

  • @bjoernaltmann

    @bjoernaltmann

    2 жыл бұрын

    I found the new Eurostar to be much noisier and less comfortable. Probably weight saving measures for efficiency. More legroom, but that‘s it. The old Eurostar was comfy and such a ride quality. When it comes to trains in general, the French know what they‘re doing.

  • @alexmcwhirter6611

    @alexmcwhirter6611

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bjoernaltmann I have heard similar feedback from others. One reason may be because of the train's bogies. The original Eurostar trains were a variant of the TGV and so they articulated bogies whereas the Siemens trains have conventional bogies.

  • @joanns5250
    @joanns52502 жыл бұрын

    In 2019 I booked the new sleeper train to Inverness. Howeeeever, the train broke down and we had to ride one of the old trains, AND it was three hours late leaving London. On the plus side, because the train was more than an hour late, they refunded my fare in full at the Caledonian Sleeper office in Inverness.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh nice, free train ride! That's pretty good service. Thanks for watching!

  • @berk835
    @berk8352 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. And nice comparison.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @danielintheantipodes6741
    @danielintheantipodes67412 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @ANA111978
    @ANA1119782 жыл бұрын

    Jess i love all your videos.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @DrBrazell
    @DrBrazell2 жыл бұрын

    Sleeping on (or trying to sleep) on the Caledonian Sleeper is quite an experience that is for sure! Nevertheless, my wife loves it so we always take it for one of the legs between London and Edinburgh. : )

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Thanks for watching!

  • @_GeekyDad_
    @_GeekyDad_2 жыл бұрын

    I love the Shining mask the Lumo lady had on.

  • @send2gl
    @send2gl2 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, well presented. Bit like the Coaster v Amtrak in California.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Geoff!

  • @AlasdairMacCaluim
    @AlasdairMacCaluim2 жыл бұрын

    The Caledonian Sleeper also offers a seated option which is a lot cheaper - usually c£55. You can get cheaper fares on daytime trains but it saves you the cost of a hotel.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup, as mentioned! Thanks for watching Alasdair!

  • @DGsa1661
    @DGsa16612 жыл бұрын

    Great video!!!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Diana, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @mariaocampo7240
    @mariaocampo72402 жыл бұрын

    So interesting! I wonder if these tickets could be gifted and used through the year! Thanks for the content!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Maria, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ace-paidinfull5240

    @ace-paidinfull5240

    2 жыл бұрын

    They r hard to find!! I got mine for £19.80, couldnt find the same for my return

  • @ethomas5921
    @ethomas59212 жыл бұрын

    just remember that you can take the train and sit anywhere that's not reserved and/or occupied so if there's another free seat you can just sit there. you need to reserve and prepay for your food online for lumo (just like british airways economy)

  • @therealcaldini
    @therealcaldini2 жыл бұрын

    Lumo is perfect for me: cheap, gets me to where I want to be, has a decent perch for my laptop. Wish it was more frequent. Two plugs at the seats would help too.

  • @Carl_Thompson
    @Carl_Thompson2 жыл бұрын

    Loved this ! New subscriber !

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    So glad to hear it, thanks Carl!

  • @neville132bbk
    @neville132bbk2 жыл бұрын

    I remember while still finishing high school, going on the brand new Silver Star overnight train from Auckland to Wellington,in the last 60s.... relative to wages etc it was far cheaper than the train you went on,, 12 hours all told. I had a single berth cabin, no shower, but every bit as nice as what you paid $$$$ for.But, as it lost money,,,, it didn't survive.......now the only AKL-WTN day train ( some days )is horrendously expensive and really only for tourists...it is cheaper and 8 times faster to fly.

  • @MrDavfit
    @MrDavfit2 жыл бұрын

    Great fun Video...cool glasses...

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @realjohnnycrew
    @realjohnnycrew2 жыл бұрын

    Love this

  • @filmsociety1311
    @filmsociety1311 Жыл бұрын

    I usually book in advance with LNER but Lumo is great too. I've never taken the Caledonian Sleeper

  • @marsh2741
    @marsh27412 жыл бұрын

    Tbf I've had less space in a 6 person room before but we didn't pay nearly as much as that so I guess that's to be expected and it did have specific suitcase storage

  • @AlesMedication
    @AlesMedication2 жыл бұрын

    Nice video!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much Alejandro, thanks for watching!

  • @draoi99
    @draoi992 жыл бұрын

    I love travelling by train. Lumo sounds like a great disruptor to the crazy expensive train network.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely. Thanks for watching!

  • @alexmcwhirter6611

    @alexmcwhirter6611

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what I had thought but in truth there are too few Lumo trains. Right now just two or three a day ...compared to incumbent LNER with a service every 30 mins for much of the day

  • @gravellegb
    @gravellegb2 жыл бұрын

    If you haven't already done so, you should try the Night Riviera train from London Paddington to Penzance.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Gary!

  • @richardb3363
    @richardb3363 Жыл бұрын

    There are also the LNER services to Scotland. If you book early, Advance Tickets, then you can get some good prices, even for first class, which is more comfortable and less crowded.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    Жыл бұрын

    yup! Thanks for watching!

  • @norcaljennifer
    @norcaljennifer2 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to like our trip on the Caledonian Sleeper on our holiday in July 2018, but was thwarted by record heat, rail service delays, and a broken cooling system in our compartments. In retrospect I should have just booked a 1st class ticket on LNER.

  • @norcaljennifer

    @norcaljennifer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh, July 2019! I have lost track of time during the pandemic :/

  • @alexmcwhirter6611

    @alexmcwhirter6611

    2 жыл бұрын

    Consider Cal Sleeper might have operated the 40-year old rolling stock back then. It depends on the route as the Highlander routes received the new cars after the Lowlander ones.

  • @DaveSuperThomas
    @DaveSuperThomas2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Jess. I've yet to use either Caledonian Sleeper or Lumo in order to travel the 393 miles along the East Coast Main Line between London and Edinburgh but I have been on the third option which you don't mention - a London and NorthEastern Railway day train between the English and Scottish capitals, which offers reasonable fares in both Standard and First Class accommodation if you can book ahead, travel off-peak and use a discount railcard. I'm glad that you enjoyed the spectacular views out of the Lumo train window as you headed south during daylight hours, including the breathtaking panorama of Durham City with its impressive Norman Castle (a Hall of Residence for University students since 1832) and the magnificent Anglican Cathedral. If you get the chance, spend a long weekend in Durham and climb the numerous steps to the top of the Cathedral tower - preferably on a clear day! Did you know that in the area around Peterborough known as The Fens - where the rich, peaty soil is jet black and huge flat fields stretch to the horizon - the railway line is actually running below sea level? It's a shame that Lumo don't provide a First Class option on their five-car trains where one carriage has 2 plus 2 seats arranged in bays of four around a fixed table and there is space for large suitcases between the seat backs. I'd happily pay £10 extra for this option. I'm looking forward to watching your video diary about Edinburgh, a city which I have come to know reasonably well over the years! Keep up the good work! Regards, Dave.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! thanks for watching Dave, hope you enjoyed the Edinburgh guide as well.

  • @alexmcwhirter6611

    @alexmcwhirter6611

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Dave, the reason why Lumo is one-class is because it's like a LCC on rails...so it's like EZY or Ryanair in this respect. By being one class Lumo can boast its green credentials as more passengers can be accommodated on each train.

  • @airzulu2733
    @airzulu27332 жыл бұрын

    Lumo excellent value. Will use again .

  • @stethemeterman1968
    @stethemeterman19682 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @CeTrains
    @CeTrains2 жыл бұрын

    A good tip for sleeping on the sleeper is to have a wee dram or two and try to fall asleep before the train leaves. Trying to fall asleep on the move is a nightmare - also bring your own decent ear plugs to try and drown out the noise!

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    good tips!

  • @celticmugwump
    @celticmugwump2 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful, I am going to London soon I hope and am thinking about the sleeper but the thought of saving £200 or more is very tempting and I can use those saved pounds to spoil myself in London rather than on the train 🤔 hmmmm what to do.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed the video Hugh, thanks for watching.

  • @andrewb4556
    @andrewb45562 жыл бұрын

    Hi Thanks! I think i will fly when i am in London. Australia

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Train is much better for the environment, and much more convenient!

  • @user-mn5ul9vo9m
    @user-mn5ul9vo9m2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!! Informative but I would still fly. Jess, I’m in London drinks at Annabel’s?

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Train is MUCH better for the environment, and can sometimes take longer than the Lum train! Thanks for watching.

  • @simranbajwa
    @simranbajwa2 жыл бұрын

    It's a great concept but like you said it's awfully tight for 2 people. I wish the passage in your personal compartment was a a foot wider.. I couldn't get any suitcase under the lower berth as they ladder is placed so awkward that nothing goes uber , unless you have a real mini one as on flights. The bed was super comfy though and good to have your personal toilet . The food in the pantry car was great though. 👍

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! thanks for watching!

  • @shawnli4746
    @shawnli47462 жыл бұрын

    Lovely to hear an American commentary on British transport once in a while

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    :) Thanks for watching!

  • @artbabyjade
    @artbabyjade Жыл бұрын

    This is so helpful. Thank you. Smelly like what..... pls elaborate

  • @tjc89
    @tjc89 Жыл бұрын

    Make sure you go to Liverpool or Glasgow next time. Friendliest cities in the UK

  • @NTVExtra
    @NTVExtra2 жыл бұрын

    Good video. I'm a new viewer

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @Daniel27600
    @Daniel276002 жыл бұрын

    I guess since you've done this it's only fair to test out Avanti West Coast Train - London to Glasgow. (First class on way up and standard on the south route. Or vice versa.)

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Daniel!

  • @ace-paidinfull5240

    @ace-paidinfull5240

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yh gd shout. Not sure why she ignored your request 👀 lol

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ace-paidinfull5240 Not quite in the position to drop everything and go to Glasgow and back right at the moment ;)

  • @lykiemonteroso833
    @lykiemonteroso8332 жыл бұрын

    cannot wait til i come back.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @georgewhite5351
    @georgewhite53512 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, 4 hours early??? Good comparison video. Makes me appreciate Amtrak’s long distance accommodations a bit more even though they’re never on time.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah obviously, I misspoke.

  • @mikew742
    @mikew7422 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing, QQ - on the sleeper, is there an external window you can open or at least ajar for fresh air?

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is a window, I *think* you can open it but it was cold and dark so I didn't do it myself!

  • @Mariazellerbahn
    @Mariazellerbahn2 жыл бұрын

    9:44 To arive 4 hours early on a 4 hour - 30 minute journey is pretty good going.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    if only

  • @petersmith4455
    @petersmith44552 жыл бұрын

    hi, the lumo trains are skips put together to make a train, airline style seats in a train what next ? Yogi Bear and Boo Boo serving snacks, 60s style much better and was less crowded.the breakfast was not very good on the sleeper train. i think youve been had, lumo is only First Group trying to pull a fast one to make a few quid

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sadly it's not the 60s anymore but can't beat the good prices and definitely better seat than on an airplane. Thanks for watching

  • @romanodowbusz6139
    @romanodowbusz61392 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how it compares with the Night Riviera Sleeper to Penzance

  • @SanskarWagley
    @SanskarWagley2 жыл бұрын

    would love to do this

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    :) Thanks for watching Sanskar!

  • @winec00ler
    @winec00ler Жыл бұрын

    Hi I will travel from LAX to London then to Edinburgh next spring, and yeah I was thinking on taking the train to Scotland- Do you remember if you traveled on a weekday or a weekend for the Lumo? I'm wondering how much of a difference that makes.

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    Жыл бұрын

    It was a weekday but it's the same experience, Fridays and Sundays will likely high higher prices are they are more in demand tickets. Thanks for watching!

  • @virtuallythere5866
    @virtuallythere58662 жыл бұрын

    I regularly travel for business between Scotland & Mexico and connect in London/Go home via sleeper as its literally to my doorstep (station 50mts away). Ive done it 12+ times in the club room and honestly never had water issues or generally anything wrong with the train except a 3 hr delay northbound due to crew illness one time. I like the new train and Im a happy customer

  • @evancortez2
    @evancortez22 жыл бұрын

    I do miss those days when you could travel without proof of vaccination and/or negative covid tests - Edinburgh is high on my list of places to visit next time I'm in the UK and I was supposed to go there in 2020 but the world went crazy and I had to cancel

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup! There's a case for coming to London and then traveling around the UK for a while, you don't have to keep doing tests if you were to jump from country to country around Europe.

  • @mrtwiggy548
    @mrtwiggy5482 жыл бұрын

    Was a shame with Lumo, actually hoping it could provide a cheaper alternative but in most cases, LNER continues to be cheaper now the "launch sale" has ended and also some LNER services are still faster and offer a higher level of service so 😶

  • @transportenthusiast11

    @transportenthusiast11

    Жыл бұрын

    From what I've seen, I think the Lumo seats might be significantly more comfortable than the new LNER seats, which are shaped very poorly and have little to no padding.

  • @ace-paidinfull5240
    @ace-paidinfull52402 жыл бұрын

    May be luxurious but a bit long. But damn that price ia a bit much, unless you book in advance and pay off slowly. I went on the lumo for my outgoing part of the journey, loved it, quick and neat, but space wise is nothing compared to the cali. Lumô livery is rather dashing tho😏

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! :)

  • @mkim269
    @mkim2692 жыл бұрын

    Hi I was wondering if you could help me out I am going to be in London next April 2023 I was looking to take a day trip but what a sleepover night in Scotland for a solo person what would you recommend that it would be best for me on what train to go and come go to Scotland and the next day doing my trip in Scotland and then returning the same day back to London

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not sure what you're asking but Scotland is too far for a day trip, definitely do at least two days :)

  • @user-sw2xz5rb1f
    @user-sw2xz5rb1f11 ай бұрын

    Hello, how do I pre-book tickets for the train before I travel from California to London and Scotland. Is there a certain website? Should I download the Lumo and ScotRail apps?

  • @loveandlondon

    @loveandlondon

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes ! Use Omio: omio.sjv.io/c/1719972/409973/7385

  • @airzulu2733
    @airzulu27332 жыл бұрын

    Lumo was excellent value. 👌

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