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I hope that it puts a smile on your face to know that I, an old plant lady nearing 60 years old, play your videos on Saturday morning as I'm watering and tending to my planty collection.

Yayyyyy, thanks for answering my question about Olive!!! What a cute little baby, my heart 😍❤🐶 I laughed because my dog also loves carrots and she'll sprint across the house if she hears me chopping one. Olive is so lucky to have you as her mama and that your mom also adopted one of her buddies! And I love a long Fern videoooooo 🎉

@zoeyalexiou3800

10 ай бұрын

Omg my pug does thissss too!!!😭🤣I always thought it was so random until I heard Olive loves them as well

@Lourdes-nc3sp

10 ай бұрын

​@@zoeyalexiou3800Oh! So many four legged carrot fans 😊😂❤

I am so proud of you for being so open to share your mental issues. You don't know how much this help others. Love all your videos.

It’s so weird watching her and feeling like we are best friends. But in reality she knows nothing about me. 😭💖

Thank you for perfectly explaining how norm it is to only have a Mom. I grew up with no knowledge of my Dad. And it never seemed weird. My mom just passed last year and I am curious, but unfortunately she took that info to grave with her. My guess is I’m better off. She was more than enough. 😊

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry for your loss 💚

Just because you have a dad, doesn't always equate help ; ) Your mom seems amazing.

Hobbies, I also consider food a hobby. It's motivated by having Crohn's disease, but fortunately I also enjoy cooking for myself and prioritizing food that is minimally processed/low additives so that I can try and keep my symptoms under control with my diet. Between food and plants, that's all the time I have for hobbies lol, but I'm always striving to find more time to get outside. Thanks for all the videos Fern, you add so much to our lives!! 💜💜💜

🥰 I'm at the part of the video where you ask what our hobbies are. My hobbies are plants and cooking like you but as soon as I found out that I was going to be a grandma this summer (he, Matteo, was born on July 19th) I've been crocheting non stop for several months! I've made so many things for him and continue to do so. I'm also crocheting for my daughters and the ladies in my family and myself as well. I LOVE it!! This is a FANTASTIC video. xxx

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

Awe you are so amazing Lyne! I need to learn to crochet. So sweet that you’re able to make things for your grandson 🥰

I bought a dna test for my rescue. It’s cute and very exciting to get the results, but to me it felt like an expensive way to scratch a curiosity itch. It didn’t change anything for me and my dog, but it’s fun to see other dogs he has similar genetics with 🥰 Love to repot along with you in these videos ❤

I’ve been watching your videos since before you were a plant channel and I’ve loved to see how you’ve grown over the years! My hobbies are definitely all plant adjacent- I keep a heavily planted aquarium, several jumping spiders, and I’m in the process of setting up a bio active enclosure for a crested gecko!

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

Awww thank you so much for sticking around for all of this time!

Yes! Hobby addict here too. Painting, drawing, poetry, diy projects, home decorating, terarium building, bonsai, plant care, reading, puzzles, video games, hiking, foraging, camping, road tripping. ❤

I used to be such a huge reader ❤ I need to get back into it so badly, and love watching book content! I have a decent sized book collection but I’d like to expand it, and I have some unread books I need to get to. I just end up sucked into my phone or tv, I put it on for background noise, then end up sucked into it instead.. I need to figure out my bedroom setup & get my cozy corner set up with the love seat & plant table, so I have a spot to read with no distractions…📚🪴 I’ll need to acclimate certain plants to the bedroom first, since it’s way different conditions in there compared to the main living/kitchen area, where I keep 99% of my plants 🪴😅 I’m working with only south facing windows in our apartment, but the living room has a covered balcony that prevents direct light from hitting my plants. The kitchen and bedroom don’t have that, so there’s direct sun on certain areas, so I need to be careful about which plants I put where 😅 Also sorry for the novel lmao 😅❤

big congrats on the new house, new space, new plant display in the back, everything's looking great! appreciate the open honesty. as for WFH/ self employed time management, I'm still figuring that out lmao. I'm super ADHD so time tends to slip away from me, but something that helps me is preparing my schedule the night before + I try really hard to do the longest or most unpleasant/ unfun tasks first so I feel super accomplished even if I don't do much else that day. I tend to do better when I do workouts/ meditation first then start my working day afterwards. You will figure out your best routine, you're dealing w lots of changes right now so it might take awhile just be gentle with yourself :)

I Crochet, my Grandmother taught me the basics when i was very young. And since my 50's i picked it up again, and it is my relaxing quiet time. I give my creations to a homeless place. My family has one of everything so it piles up❤😅.

It's so nice to see you and your plants in such a beautiful space and not in your little cramped place. You can move to other rooms. Are you so happy too😊

@brooklin_bernek

10 ай бұрын

Aw I loved ferns little apartment , so beautiful to see her grow there (good times and hard times) Of course her new place is stunning but the old one was still perfect at the time ❤

@kasjo78

10 ай бұрын

I still kinda miss her cozy old place!

I love your background. That plant shelf, the warm lights, that majestic, it all just looks perfect. And I just commented this but I can't get over how well your plants grow! You are incredible at growing plants because seriously you didn't have Jacklyn for that long and it's already so huuge! And I loved hearing more about Olive. I could watch videos all about her honestly. I love her so much

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

Oh thank you so much for such a kind comment 🥰 I’m so happy with how the planty background is coming along too!

Aww, so adorable baby Olive!!!

I love hiking. Being near Trees, bodies of water and mountains give me a serotonin boost :)

Thoroughly enjoyed the entire video!! Your plants are beautiful and, like a lot of others, I really love hearing the questions and your answers!!👍❤️👏🌱🪴🌿🍃😊

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching 😊

Hi Fern! I found your channel a while ago begire I got into plants and now I have 53! It is not about the number of plants but the beauty of being more aware of their growth and needs and feel more peace, snd smile more. Now I start my days eatching your videos after my morning meditation 😀. Thank you for spreading your enthusiasm and excitement with us!

The best hobby ever which is endless…pottery …you can not master it in one lifetime LOVE

Knit and crochet, gardening (outside AND in 😜), reading, and baking!

Oh yeah I've been watching you for over 3yrs and IM so happy to have your Positive experience 😅😊🎉

I just forgot how good your videos feel. I was busy because I had my final exams before university, like end of high school and I hadn't had my for it. I fell behind with every channel I watched. My plants are barely living. I worked when my holidays started so the only thing I had the energy for was just pop them in the tub and sprinkle some tap water on them from the shower handle. I haven't repotted any of them, didn't even fertalised. They just somehow managed to survive the summer heats but there is like no growth. But now I have September to just unwind before the university starts. I gonna repot the plants that need that, take care of them more, do some thinking whether I wanna keep them all or not. Finally I have the time and mind to just sit with my tea and watch your chatty repots. I'm looking forward to seeing your spooky videos soon. Like I liked the autumn because of you. You know, sometimes you feel like we're on the journey with you, but at least for me some creators just travel with me as well. I love to look back and say "lets watch fern like on a cozy winter evening 2 years ago" its just so comforting. Im glad to catch up on your channel, plants, how your lifes going. I missed out on you buying the house but Im happy about it. And I want the cuprea now lmao such impressive leaves!!!

My dog also enjoys carrots! It's so cute to see her monch on them. Speaking of hobbies, plants obviously are a big one but I've also always enjoyed the arts as long as I can remember! Specifically drawing. I've been practicing dot work recently and it's super rewarding to see the finished product.

I love all your videos and chats because it’s too gosh darn relatable! Doggy DNA kits... I did it and LOVED it. There are lots out there but I chose Embark because the interface is so nice and user friendly, plus it has so many cool features and the explanations are top notch. Some are like genetic breed result, a health summary or genetic risks which also gives you an option to share your results with your vet and it even lets you know if they have relatives based on other people who did the DNA test for their doggos. 10/10 for sure! Home ownership... I’m in my “do what makes me happy” era so this was a big realization for me. I’ve owned my house for almost 6 years now and I’ve been hesitant to make certain changes because people will put in your head the desire to consider resale which is so not important. Always putting resale first and making decisions based on that makes it feel like your renting and making your house for someone else. This is YOUR house, do whatever you want! I hate that it took me so long to realize that because I am loving the unique changes I’ve made that make me feel so joyful. Biggest piece of advice, do whatever you want! You can always just make another change ❤

I'm only on the first question but thank you for being so open in this video, I love your authenticity but also respect your privacy so I'm happy with anything you choose to share! Also omg I need to re-watch your skincare videos seeing those pics of you 10 years ago. You haven't aged a day!

My hobbies are knitting and plants. I love audio books because I can listen while I knit and while I play with my plants.

I just love watching your videos! They are so relaxing and informative! I can’t tell you how many plants I’ve purchased after watching your videos (alocasia cuprea is now on my list lol) lol! I’m at the “hobby” part of this one … so thought I’d chime in with my hobbies. I love all things planty, I have a cute little Goldendoodle that takes up a lot of my time and attention and a betta fish that I’m trying so hard to keep aquatic plants alive for him… they’re not as easy as houseplants lol. I am a quilter and love to sit at my sewing machine and make things. I did recently start crocheting and I find it very relaxing, especially at night when the hubs is watching tv. I also enjoy reading and just recently (today) decided to give audible a try and am thinking that I can listen to a book while I crochet at night …. We’ll see how that goes! Thank you for sharing your hobby and houseplants with us!

perfect timing. I’m just getting ready to do dishes and you’re my chore buddy 😅💕

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

Ooo yasss let’s crush these chores 👊

Also wanted to say, seeing how your style has changed over years is so interesting! You used to have such punk rock look just few years ago wearing mostly black, vs. Now that wearing more vibrant colors. Both styles look great on you! But so interesting just to look back in older vlogs just to see how much has changed!

In addition to plants and reading as well. I love to knit and I'm currently teaching myself to crotchet.

I just learned how to crochet over the past couple of weeks! I’m actually crocheting while watching your video, haha. It was definitely tricky to learn, but after about a week practicing, it finally clicked for me. Highly recommend to help with anxiety, especially if you’re a nail-biter like me. 😅

Sorry to hear about your dad. He’s the one missing out on the amazing person you are. ❤️ I lost my dad 15 years ago and you’re so right, it’s when I’m doing like home improvement or dealing with car issues or whatever, that I wish he were still around.

Love the pup talk! We have a friend who fosters dogs and cats for her local shelter and she was caring for a pregnant stray and actually helped her deliver her *twelve* puppies 😅 me and my husband had been talking about getting a dog in the next year or two so when this happened it just seemed perfect! Our best friend took one as well and she actually got a DNA test for hers so it was so cool to find out what breeds they were mixed with! They definitely aren't totally accurate but it at least gives you an idea🤷🏻‍♀️ so we are now the PROUD parents of a pit/lab mix! And such a sweatie🥰

Hi Fern 💫 I know I’ve made a comment before but I truly think you are a beautiful soul. Like you, I enjoy the cozy overcast gloomy days, but living in Florida means those are far and few between ~ so I absolutely treasure them when I get them. I’ve always wanted to move to Seattle just for the over cast rainy days ☔️. I absolutely love your channel and content, as your videos are very calming and soothing. Keep being the beautiful soul that you are. 🙏🏻💫

I was crocheting while watching this!! highly recommend teaching yourself to crochet! it so relaxing and rewarding! your background looks absolutely majestical! (pun intended with the p. majestic in the back ;)💚🪴

🦋🦋🦋 planting, crafting (digital art, t-shirts, tumblers, candles, terrariums) I'm sure there are more I can't think of lol

Damn this is just what I needed to distract me from doing any of the stuff I'm putting off this morning loll. 🤣🤣

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

hahaha :)

What a great video to come home to! Funny enough, while you were in P.E.I. I was in New Brunswick with my family 😆 My hobbies include; painting, junk crafts (using old things to make art), faux plant decor/art, foraging, flower pressing (to us in crafts), Cricut crafting, reading, gaming and houseplants (obviously). I was raised by two artists so I'm always adding new art/craft styles to my mix 😁

I love chatty videos!! And repotting videos!! Can’t wait 🥰

Another pot and chat. Love these videos. I always learn something.

I’m an introvert too and I feel like I am the only one in control of my life when I’m alone. When in a social situation I am under other people’s control and I have to be like they expect me to be and that makes me very uncomfortable. So I can see how talking to the camera makes you in control. I enjoy your channel because you are soft spoken and calm. Donna

Quilting is my all time favorite hobby. It’s so satisfying. Especially baby quilts.

I’ve just recently started following you. New to plants and always learning but I feel like we have so much in common. Love hearing you chat and so love your channel. You were talking about hobbies. I have the same ( except not running! Lol). I also really enjoy board games and puzzles. Only catch with games is you need someone to play them with. Anyway, thanks for the great channel. Learning so much from you!!

you asked the other day how we feel about favorites videos, I think I get more excited about and sucked into your q+a videos than the favorites. I think it fills a podcast hole for me from you lol, the variety of topics interests me more

I set a timer for work tasks, especially ones I dread. I've found it makes me work faster.

Nice video! Beautiful plant background. To answer your question about hobby's: Beside plants, I like to read, crochet, diamond painting, make jigsawpuzzles, take care of my cats, and I love my work at the library. Not enough hours in a day for me 😅. Greetings from The Netherlands 🙋🏻‍♀️

Seriously this has to be one of my FAV reporting q&a! Watxhign how much you’ve grown over the years is sooo inspiring! Been here for all the ups and downs and I’m so proud of you girlie ❤❤❤❤

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

Oh thank you Brooklin 🥹🥰💚

I did the Embark kit for my rescue pup! Def recommend. I’ve had him for 10 years and only recently did it. I felt all cheesy and emotional piecing together more of his past and learning something new about him 😅😊

Watching you repot while I’m unboxing plants. I’ll have alot of potting to do

I love your repotting videos. I did Embark for my three rescue dogs and I highly recommend it! I was shocked by some of the results but they definitely make sense looking back.

I started trying hobbies by going to the hobby store and spending $30-$40 on the basics for one hobby at a time. I've learned how to crochet, paint, oil pastel, work with clay, resin, fabric dying, jewelry making, and more from doing this. Obviously youtube has an endless rabbit hole of artists to learn from as well. I liked doing this because now I have a couple hobbies I do often that I picked up for less than the cost of a dinner date lol

I have to many hobbies haha… I knit, crochet, diamond painting, learning to sew now also. I’m trying to fit reading back into my life also but I’m finding it hard to do that sadly. Loving my crochet projects lately. I’ve been making cardigans and all kinds of hanging plants with yarn.. it’s so fun to be able to customize those things. Anyway… love your videos and have been following your journey for years. Fellow Canadian here(Alberta) ❤

Love your long chatty vids. And love hearing about all the plant care, love from QLD Australia

An hour of fern?! First thing in the morning?! Yay, Am I dreaming?! Somebody pinch me!! 😴 💭 ❤

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

🥰🌿 enjoy!!

@jpgypsyxo

10 ай бұрын

@@wildfernI seriously can’t believe how amazing your new place looks! The shelves, the cabinet; its beautiful and superior in the background, imo! So many new filming angles just in this area!

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

@@jpgypsyxo thank you sooo much 🥹

DEFINITELY get a dna test for olive!! i got one for my cat and it blew my mind, and it’ll update as more people do it, maybe one day i’ll find a relative of hers! a little pricey but honestly was so fun and worth it

Thank you for being real. This is why i keep watching you, the plants, the life. Keep rockin. :)

Awesome repot! Really enjoyed watching you upsize those beauties 👏🏼👏🏼 Also as a mum with a daughter who suffers from high levels of anxiety I can say with conviction that quitting coffee ( and caffeine in general) will REALLY help. I have seen such an improvement in my daughter since quitting caffeine. And I'm glad you were able to get out of that toxic work environment...I did the same a few years ago and haven't looked back. Doing what you enjoy is so important, and to be surrounded by beautiful plants all day long is a bonus. But the best thing is having people around you who love, respect and support you in what you do ❣💚

I think I’m going to get back into tea too. Coffee has just been too much for me most of the time. Crochet is rewarding 😊

Love these sit down videos ☺️ it’s great to hear you’re setting more boundaries with what you share online, you’ll thank yourself in the long run!

Be gentle with yourself when it comes to home ownership projects. They’ll still be there waiting for you, and your home will always love you for all the love and beauty you put into it ❤ My hobbies include crocheting! I used to be so intimidated by crocheting but after my grandmother taught me the basics on how to read patterns, I’ve gotten more comfortable with it. Again, these hobbies will be there for you when you’re ready. Don’t stress and don’t feel guilty. You’re doing great, boo.

@judygerlach2234

10 ай бұрын

Really enjoyed the video. Followed you two years ago but for some reason I lost the subscription. So glad I was able to find you again. 😊

My hobbies are the same as yours. Houseplants, reading. Also gardening and taking my pup to the dog park (is that a hobby?). That’s where I get my exercise.

Love your new set up. You are totally in your element 🌿💚

Besides plants and reading I’m an avid quilter. I’ve made several hundred quilts. I’ve stopped selling quilts and only gift them now. I also do some journaling.

My Plant “Hobby” includes about 500 plants at the moment, about 60 varieties of Hoya. I have a 20x30’ greenhouse outside that I tend. I also crochet and Tat, the art form of making lace. I quilt, sew, and spend lots of time with my grand babies, ages 1 1/2 and 3 1/2.

I love these type of videos so much! So happy to see you and your plants enjoying the new space and set up! Side note, you asked about favourites videos in your past video and they are some of my favourite types of videos as it feels like a recap of the month and a reset for the next month! ❤❤

Plants, walking my dog, watching tv, and reading

Dog sledding! 😆 I have 2 sprinting bred sled dogs and we do bikejoring/scooterjoring in the spring/fall and then we do 2 dog sled in the winter 😊 I also do nosework with them! And then the plants 😅 Crocheting, painting and a bit of basic furniture restoration 🥰 For the other hobbies!

I started knitting last year and it’s been the most addictive hobby, I make some beautiful pieces and the action of knitting helps reduce my anxiety ❤

I love hearing more about who you are as a person and about your past and personal life. It makes you feel more human to me, instead of just someone I see on the screen of my phone lol Love your content. Of all planty videos I watch, yours I definitely watch the most ❤❤

it so nice to see you and listening to you talk about your plants, there are lovely..

Bought an alocasia dragon scale this week and just bought this mix!! So excited to use it!! I also love that you love living w your partner and have adapted!! Ive lived alone for over three years and Im addicted hahah

We did Wisdom Panel DNA tests for both of our rescue pups. 10000% recommend!!! We learned so much about why they are the way the are and ways to best train them. If you’re even considering I would recommend!

I’ve done the dog dna on my dog! They are somewhat expensive but I think it’s worth it. We found out she is a pure bread American bully and it was so much fun!

Oh you should do the rainbow window tint more coverage. And I feel you on the whole dad situation. It is what it is.

My hobbies, listening to true crime and murder mystery podcasts while I garden, outside and inside. I have a large property so have many garden areas I am slowly building up and rejuvenating. I was lucky to have some well established fruit trees when I bought my home. I built some veggie gardens and a chicken.pen, because chickens are a gardeners best friend. Free poo, free eggs, free pest control and soil aeration. Also have a worm farm, 4 slow composts, a cat, a dog and 3 fish. My next big project is setting up an aquaponic pond. I don't eat fish so will likely use koi, but I can't wait to add to my food output. Aiming at self sufficiency as much as possible so I can work less ❤

Hey Fern. Love your videos. I have a tip for time management, (sort of? 🤔) Instead of focusing on what u haven't done "perfectly".... Always, count your blessings name them one by one! Literally! This simple thing does miracles to change your mindset, to stop being so hard on yourself! I too have depression and nervousness. It helps me. 🌷💚

Wrt your previous chat and repot Q&A, your Human Design Profile is a manifestor which just made soo much sense. I keep staring at your Cuprea... its defs Alocasia Cuprea Goals. Hobbies include knitting, writing, reading and plants lol... Life has been lifeing lately so have not had much of an opportunity to do much besides my plants. Thanks for sharing about your relationship with your dad, it was very touching. Sending you sooo much Love ❤

Hi Fern, so enjoyed this video!! On the hobby question, plants are number one for me and second is reestablishing my Barbie collection!! I have been collecting Barbies since 1965!!

@wishingonthemoon1

10 ай бұрын

Ohmygosh That’s such a cool hobby!

Another fan from the US, this time from Idaho. My daughter is a nurse, and she definately works hard at staying positive. She worked in a Neuro dept for many years, and recently moved to a out patient surgery dept. She no longer has to witness the trauma of death and dying which is so difficult. I recall her torn up about whether patients received proper care or not. Anyway, I am sure you are so much happier outside of that life. You do still contribute to the well being of others though. The comments attest to that!

Whoa, 8am est?! Talk about starting my day off great! ❤

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

Hahah! I am on the east coast right now 🥰🫶

I hope you’re having a good vacation Fern ❤ loving this video as I start work with a coffee! I completely know how you feel about your dad. My mom isn’t super “handy” and she also has some physical issues so there’s just things I never learned like how to be handy! So those home reno situations are kinda a struggle. I can always learn. I find it hard to see babies or children with their dads 😢 but also being just with my mom is all I’ve ever known too.

Hobbies I enjoy are painting and needle felting. I have tried crocheting and I just can not get the hang of it, but my husband enjoys it.

I love to paint! I haven't done it in years but recently I took it up again 🤗

Omg baby Olive 😍

I love repotting in general!! So therapeutic, I just tried Mollys mix myself, the aroid mix is great but the succulent mix is AWESOME

I'm knitting right now while watching/listening 😊 KZread taught me during quarantine, there's tons of amazing small business yarn dyers and pattern designers. Definitely went deep down that rabbit hole, same as houseplants, haha!

I cannot wait to see your garden journey! Gardening has been so fulfilling for us. Imagine growing your own organic carrots for Olive!🥕🐕

@wildfern

10 ай бұрын

Awww yes so true 🥹

I enjoyed the chat and the repotting. I laughed when you spoke about hobbies and you said crochet, I always think I'd like to learn to crochet also. 💚💚💚

Small plants. I have a very 8:38 small area to repot. The biggest I did was my bird of paradise which was leaning to one direction and the soil on the other side was heaving out of the pot. So it got a new bigger pole. Took me a While to get it upright and balanced. looking beautiful where it is doing great. Then I made my first moss pole. Ugh. It’s crooked in the pot. I tried to use grafting tape but I couldn’t get it to work at all. I ended up looking for plant velcro that came with the poles. It’s lopsided but the pole is still intact and upright. It’s doing well. Two monstera plants on one pole. One has two leaves with fenestrations the other has none.

Great Q & A repotting video. Thanks for sharing Ferm!

I can’t believe how much your Siltepecana grew from a tiny leaf cutting 🥹 Loved your Q & A Fern 💖

@natashaoreilly7072

10 ай бұрын

Also I’m so sorry to hear about your dad 🥺 Your mom sounds like an absolute angel ❤️

I don't enjoy nursing any more. Have just taken 10 weeks off and all I have done, is weed, prune, plant, garden and repot plants. Building a patio this weekend and doing some paving. I don't want to go back to work but I need an income again soon...bummer. It is spring here in Australia so beautiful weather and my plants are waking up and my rinunculas and bottle brushes are all in bloom...❤

The dog DNA kits are so fun! They do take quite a few weeks to do but the info you get is so fun to review! Highly recommend for any rescue

I wish you were in Florida!!!!!! I feel like we’re friends 🤣 I listen while I do my plant chores all the time

Thanks for sharing Fern! Idk why it is so fun to hear pet stories but now I want to learn about Cadence too 😌 Also I totally feel you when it comes to hobbies. On top of a regular work day, I’m proud when I have the energy to cook meals, do yoga and have a few minutes left to read something I enjoy 🤓 I did have a crochet era during COVID but had much more free time then. If I have extra time to spare it most definitely goes to my plants or occasional sewing projects 💚

Some simple advice on the overwhelming nature of home ownership: There is ALWAYS something on the ToDo list; And take moments to LOOK BACK on your progress. ♥️

I agree with you, sometimes you have to just say no to new hobbies. Right now, my main home hobbies are homebrewing and plants. I am also into a bunch of outdoor sports, but as you say, that's more of a personal maintenance thing (physical + mental health) than a hobby in my opinion. I snowboard, bike, hike, camp, rock climb, etc... I thought I would get into macrame for the plants but I bought all the stuff but have yet to use it, we'll see.