That machine is called a rack classifier. The rakes would drag up and then lift and return in effect "raking" the solution. They were very common in old mills (prior to 1910) and are rarely used today (not that good at their job and are very high maintenance). The Booth flotation machine is designed agitate the mineral bearing slurry. Air is added as well as a chemical to make the mineral hydrophobic. The mineral then binds to the air bubbles and floats to the surface where it is skimmed off. These are widely using in industry today in various metals including copper, zinc, lead, and molybdenum.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the detailed comment, Sam. That classifier kind of had me stumped, but it makes sense the way you explained it. I have seen the flotation process you described in a documentary about copper, so I had an idea that's how it worked. I always learn something from the comments!👍😁

Hi Tom and Julie! i remember in my younger years there was charcoal kilns close by the town I grew up in. We would haul wood there and sell to make extra spending money. You could see and smell the wood burning for miles. The charcoal was then shipped out to be pressed into charcoal briquettes for grilling. Thanks for sharing this awesome video. Take care and god bless

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your story about charcoal. It's an interesting process, and I bet it was a good way to make a few bucks. Thanks also for the blessing!👍😁

@timlanglois5643

8 ай бұрын

Where did all the wood come from in the Mines and the kilns there is no wood in the vicinity. ? I hope you folks are doing well and the videos are as good as always thank you such for taking us along .

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Tim. I think that all the Pinyon trees around the area were cut to make charcoal. Apparently, the miners didn't do a good job of timbering the mine because it caved and pretty much closed the town and smelter. All is well with us. Thanks for watching and commenting!👍😎

Thank you Tom and Julie. I wish we had a time machine❤❤.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, Mark. That would be cool to go back and see the kilns and smelter all running. Thanks for watching!👍😎

Thanks for the little tour, Tom & Julie! Safe travels, see you next time!

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, Jimmi. Thanks for watching, and we'll see you next time!👍😁

A wild town at one time for sure - those 23 saloons led to an amazing level of bloodshed and murder (for a town of 6,000, 1 murder per day was pretty nuts). There's apparently more to be seen out there, T &J. Hope you'll plan a return for us one day! - Ed on the Ridge

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Ed. We were just passing through this area on a road trip, so we didn't know much about this place before we went there. Afterwards, I read about what a wild town it was back in the day, like you mentioned. Sounds like another one of those wild west mining towns. Thanks for watching!👍😊

GOOD MORNING, Tom and Julie, Really cool , thanks for showing us the Utah kilns. You two Rock.👍

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Good morning, Lloyd. You're welcome. Glad that you enjoyed the video, and thanks for watching!👍😎

Those klines look like little houses. I liked all the old equipment. Nice car y'all driving I like it. Y'all take care and safe travels and may God bless.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Jimmy. They would make a pretty good shelter. I wish I knew more about the equipment around there. There have been some informative comments on the equipment. Thanks for the comment and blessing!👍😁

thanks for the video you guys always find some cool stuff

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Jerry. Glad that you enjoyed it, and thanks for commenting!👍😁

Thank you, Tom and Julie that was a very interesting video 🍻🍻👍

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi David. Glad to hear from you, and thanks for watching!🍺🍺🍻

Hello Julie and Tom. Nice so see you two again and I guess you are on vacation. I hope you both have a great time and see some interesting sites there.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hello Stephen. We were on our way to New Mexico from Oregon when e spotted the kilns. We are currently in Mexico for an extended stay. We needed to get out of the desert for a while. Thanks for commenting!👍😁

You'd really like this documentary, Treasure House the Utah Mining Story. It has a segment telling the history of those ovens in Frisco. The documentary was produced in conjunction with the Utah 1896-1996 Centennial. Video quality is not so good, but it has a ton of historical information with many-many old mining photographs, both above and underground. It’s about 90 minutes long.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information on the video. I'll see if I can find some time to watch it. We like that historical type of documentary. 👍😎

hey you two, thanks for the look, those are some interesting parts and pieces around there. wouldn't it be cool to see it all in action.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Mick. I don't know a lot about Smelters and the equipment, so yes, it would be very interesting to see it in operation. Thanks for watching!👍😁

Howdy Tom and Julie! What a place. Now I'm sure I know what that piece of machinery is. But first a little chemistry lesson. Extractive metallurgy as it were. Horn silver is a silver chloride at the surface. I'm sure you've heard the term chloride? Very large bodies of silver in the southwest were silver chloride. I've been to some pits here that assayed out 68-75% silver per ton. The people who found these were called chloriders. As the ore progressed dealer, it would form sulfides. The charcoal was used to convert the silver chloride to metallic silver in the furnace. When the metal salts switched to sulfides, floatation was used to extract both the primary, in this case silver, and the secondary sulfides. This process is still used today. There are numerous ingredients you can add to your water to make metals float. That one piece of machinery was a skimmer. As the froth channeled into it the skimmers would rake the metalliods off. Two lessons in one. Would and could go into even greater detail, but I'm in a hurry. You can float gold. I did it. You can find several areas in Colorado where they tell you, if you can catch the floaty gold you'd be rich. I did it. It's my secret.😊

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the awesome comment, Richard. I enjoy learning from you guys who know much more than I do about these things. I have seen the floatation process in a copper documentary. It must be a good process if they still use it. We appreciate your input!👍😁

Frisco Utah. Never knew such a place existed until the two of y'all gave it a look over. Until now, I never knew that these "bee hive" kilns were used in mining operations. They look like oversized baker's ovens from the 18th century. As always, enjoyed the video and look forward to the next.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

We didn't know much about it either. We happened to stop for a bite to eat on a pullout, and there was the mine. Not far from the mine were the kilns. The mine is gated and posted no trespassing. Thanks for the comment!👍😎

I was there in May, and so disappointed you can't get to the mine and workshops, private property. Same as Mogollon, NM, Caribou, Co, Vulture Mine, AZ. To top it off, The roads were flooded to Bodie and Cerro Gordo.But still a great trip !

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Yes, the road to the mine is gated and posted no trespassing. I'm sure that doesn't stop some people. We were just traveling through, and not really in mine exploring mode, or we probably would have walked up to the big headframe to see it. Sounds like you had some tough conditions on your trip, but glad that you made the best of it. Thanks for commenting, Grant!👍😎

As always you 2 another great video. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate your work

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, Bill. Thanks for watching and commenting!👍😁

Nice to see Terrific Tom and Lovely Julie

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Paul. Good to hear from you!👍😎

Hello Tom and Julie, I have spent a lot of time in Milford it's only 70 mi from where I live The lot of prospecting and just exploring in the general area. It's a very mineral rich area with mines all over the place. The horn silver mine at Frisco was an amazing mine it produced massive amounts of silver but it's prize was the horn silver unfortunately it did collapse the entire shaft one night in between shift change at about midnight, so they moved to the north and put down a new shaft called the King David . With the intent of running laterals over into the The Horn silver mine unfortunately the ground was so unstable in the area that they were trying to get into that it wasn't feasible there's still a vast amount of wealth at the bottom of that mind. The charcoal kills you'll find those scattered all over Utah and Nevada they're very prominent The people that ran those were called the carbonari and that was their job they made charcoal for the mills especially the lead silver zinc mills like you find in eureka Nevada. If you should travel further north from that side about 4 to 5 mi you would find another set of those kilns , quite a bit larger than the ones that you looked at they took all they could find in the way of cedar and pinion and made charcoal out of it sold it for 35 cents a bushel. Okay that's enough out of me for today Hope you have a wonderful trip please be safe out there.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Bob. Thank you for the interesting and informative comment. We appreciate you adding all those details for us and others to read. Too had the mine collapsed and that they were unable to access the lode from the King David shaft. Trees in many areas of mine country were clear cut and used for fuel and timbering. Thanks again for commenting!👍😊

Hello Tom and Julie, I believe Kris is correct. There had to be an opening near the top of the kiln to fill it completely with wood. It would then be covered with, as you say, with steel or, in some cases, masonry. There is another complete kiln at a state park west of Cedar City. There are also some mines in that area. I believe they are iron workings, hence Iron County. Have fun on your travels and stay safe.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi David. That upper kiln opening would make sense as described. Thanks for the information on the Cedar City area. We always appreciate your comments!👍😊

I know this area well. There's a copper/silver mine located about 10 miles east of the charcoal kilns (on the outskirts of Milford) where I was employed for about 4 years. I would go out to Frisco on my lunch breaks sometimes and search for relics amongst the cedar trees. Not sure if the mine is still in operation - it had to shut down temporarily about a decade ago. It's a really interesting area - highly mineralised and a lot of abandoned mines are peppered throughout the hills. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

@TomandJulieMineExploring

4 ай бұрын

We were just passing through and saw the information about the big mine that collapsed. We tried to access the mine, but it's posted pretty clearly. I could see a big headframe up the hill. I'm sure people go in there. I just didn't want to push my luck in an unfamiliar area. Then we spotted the kilns, which are pretty cool. Thanks for the information on this area!

The first "Smelter" was most likely a steam generator/boiler. All the tubes at the one end look like what you'd see in a locomotive engine or stationary steam plant. Lovely charcoal kilns. The upper openings may have been used to load them to the top, after the pile filled the bottom...?

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Kris. Yes, that is a boiler or possibly a retort, as someone said in the comments. That makes sense about the upper openings. I found out after we were here that they were mostly sealed with steel after the kiln was loaded to control the airflow. Thanks for your input!👍😁

Love those old random stone structures. A lot of work to construct those kilns.👍

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

No doubt about it, Mark. I think it took a few years to build the kilns. Thanks for watching!👌😎

@0.44 is the remains of a fire tube steam boiler, so I think. Very interesting explore. If they captured the gas coming from the kilns it can be burned much like natural gas. It always amazes me how a town and manufacturing site can disappear almost without a trace. At least here, there are the kilns with bits and pieces of machinery along with some remains of buildings. Again, very interesting! Thanks Tom and Julie!

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

It is amazing how these mining boomtowns can appear and just as quickly disappear when the mine plays out. I guess it all has to do with money. Yes, I believe that piece of equipment is a boiler or burner of some sort. One person thought it was a retort. The kilns were fun to see. Thanks for watching and commenting, William!👍😎

What a neat find. Thank you for this video.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, Brian. Glad that you enjoyed it!👍😊

Thank you guys 😊

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, Linda. Thanks for commenting!👍😊

Well done again and an interesting place, keep it up and Cheers

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Mary and Brian. We appreciate you watching. Cheers!👍😊

Awesome video of those old kilns

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thank you. We appreciate you watching, DR!👍😎

Thanks, T&J!

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, Ralph. Thanks for watching!👍😎

AWESOME" THANKS 4 POSTING!

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, JD. Thanks for watching!👍😎

A fellow Firefighter that I knew who grew up near there said that according to Local Historians that whole area was once a Dense Pinyon Pine Forest that was all cut down and turned into Charcoal to fuel the Smelters and the Rotary Amalgam Retorts (the big tank looking thing).

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if that was true. Those charcoal kilns could hold a lot of wood. Thanks for identifying the retort. We appreciate it!👍😁

Hi Tom & Julie. Thanks for the interesting tour of the old Frisco area. Not far from this same area is the old town site of Newhouse. An old boom and bust mine town . When the mines were producing it had a hospital, hotel and even an opera house and dance hall in addition to many other buildings. Also interesting to see, although not much remains today. Good explore.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Rob. Newhouse sounds interesting. We were just passing through and stopped for a quick sandwich by the old Horn Mine. While heading out, we noticed the kilns and spent an hour or so checking them out. Thanks for watching and for the information. We appreciate it!👍😎

Hey Tom that looks like a boiler to me looking at the tubes inside.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Yes, I think that's a boiler or possibly a retort, as one person commented. Thanks for your input, Bruce. Much appreciated!👍😎

Hi Tom & Julie, what an interesting place, thank you for sharing it with us, much love to you both. xx 🥰💞

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Sue. You're welcome, and thank you for watching! We always appreciate it. 👍😊

@SueGirling68

8 ай бұрын

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Do you guys ever need any more gloves etc for your exploring ???. xx

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

I think we're all good on the gloves, Sue. Thanks for asking!😊

@SueGirling68

8 ай бұрын

@@TomandJulieMineExploring anything else you guys need ??. xx

Thank you guys, always interesting when your out and exploring! Be safe

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, Raiderman. Thanks for watching!👍😎

Interesting equipment. That’s the first time I’ve seen any of that stuff.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Ed. That first piece is some sort of burner or boiler. The second big piece is a rake of some sort used in a mill. The floatation machine uses air and chemicals to float the desired metals up to the top of a slurry where they are skimmed off. Thanks for watching!👌😎

One of the most interesting explores yet. I do wish, however, that it was two days long instead of 11 minutes. Thank you guys.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks, Roy. We appreciate the comment. I usually get people telling me the videos are too long. We used to make mine exploring videos that were an hour long or more.👍😎

@moparedtn

8 ай бұрын

@@TomandJulieMineExploring And some of us watched every dang minute of them. 🙂 - Ed

I like this tour and especially your guitar playing 🎸

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Rick. Glad that you enjoyed the tour!👌😊

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Rick. Glad that you enjoyed the tour!👌😊

Interesting video. Years ago a friend and I checked out some old kilns in the desert south east of Phoenix, az, can’t remember the name of them.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Brian. I don't think we've been to the kilns near Phoenix. Glad that you got to see them, though. Thanks for commenting!👌😎

Good morning!

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Good morning, Dave!👍😁

My kind of explore for sure.... Back in Ohio there were massive sets of bee hive coke ovens.... Cool explore my friends.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks, Max. No deep underground or heights in this one. Glad that you enjoyed it.👍😎

Very nice

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!👍😎

Hello that place was very interesting and the views are absolutely beautiful 😂

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks, Gary. Glad that you enjoyed it!👍😎

@garyhill2184

8 ай бұрын

I luv watching every one of your videos always great views I luv the video work you do also. Please tell Julie she need to do more talking lol I wish I was able to do what you two are doing because my wife and I came from family's that work in mining and work for the newmount mining company

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

That's interesting that your family has a history of doing mining work. Julie naturally doesn't say too much.

That was cool 😎

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks, Wendell. Glad that you enjoyed it!👍😎

that hole is how they loaded the wood in.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

That makes sense to be able to completely fill it with wood. Thanks for commenting, Rick!👍😎

That’s not a smelter. Just a boiler.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

That's what I figured. Like I said, I'm not much of a smelting expert. Thanks for your input!👍😁

I do not understand, where would trees come from. For making charcoal? To make it cost effective. Any way, a million thanks for your KZread videos. From St.Paul,Minnesota.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Reportedly, all the Pinyon Pines in the area were cut for the kilns. We see that quite a bit in the desert mines. What few trees were there were cut for timber supports or fuel leaving not many behind. Thanks for watching, John. Hope all is well in St. Paul!👌😁

@johndemeen5575

8 ай бұрын

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Everything is good. Vaya con Dios.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Gracias

Bee hive kiln, from the heat of the fire the wall have slag on them which is a type pf g;ass

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Yes, it looked like the one had some glazing or slag on it. Thanks for your input!👍😎

yes Flotation is a special kind of machine for separating ore and stone by using hydrophbic condition. It is used very ofently.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for your input on the floatation process. We appreciate it!👍😎

The smelter you called is a furnace

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi David. Yes, it's some kind of furnace or boiler. Thanks for your input!👌😎

In AZ we call the dome structures “coke ovens”

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Making coke is probably very similar to making charcoal, although don't quote me on that. I remember my grandfather using coke in his forge. Thanks for commenting, Professor!👍😁

Yo! Lot iron out there that could be salvage?

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

I believe the old equipment is not to be removed as it's a historic site. Thanks for the comment, Michele!👍😊

that is a boiler to make steam for pony motors

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Bill. Thanks for your input on the boiler!👍😎

Hi Tom and Jolie I wash your show all the time that was a boiler just wanted to let you know😊

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Kent. Thanks for adding that info about the boiler. We appreciate it!👍😎

No Jeep?

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Francis. We were on a road trip from Oregon to New Mexico in a rented Ford Escape, so no Jeep this time. 😁🚙

@janblake9468

8 ай бұрын

I was born in NM (1945) so looking forward to your adventures. Visiting Los Alamos? @@TomandJulieMineExploring

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Not this time. I haven't been there for years. Last time I was there was on a ski trip.

They stripped all the wood out west and it never came back.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

That's true in a lot of places. Not a tree in sight around some of these mines. What wasn't used to support the mines was often used for firewood for hear and cooking. Thanks for commenting, Ted!👍😎

Very interesting and Beautiful. Thank you.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome, SS. Glad that you found it interesting. Thanks for watching!👍😎

HY Datil NM USA

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Good morning, Michael!😁

The official narrative of these "kilns" is comical .

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

I'm not familiar with the official narrative of these kilns. Thanks for watching!👍😁

Damaged? One word: Teenagers. Amirite.

@TomandJulieMineExploring

8 ай бұрын

Hi Joe. I'm guessing that being around 150 years old has something to do with it, too. Utah doesn't seem to have as much vandalism as California and Nevada, although I could be wrong. Thanks for the comment!👍😎