My father was one of the soldiers who liberated the islands, he said it was an open secret that a large number of islanders were collaborators,, everyone knew it, but it was thought best to forget it

@Chillypepper7451

Жыл бұрын

what's tricky is that a lot of islanders had no choice - they were starved out, farms and houses taken over completely by the nazis and there was actually a huge amount of resistance and rebellion, but a lot in the UK don't learn about this. It's a nuanced thing. It's not to say there weren't/aren't facists there, but it's important to be careful when putting out info about the occupation as there are still survivors, people I grew up with's grandparents who nearly died due to the occupation. Some islanders were forced to collaborate so that they could survive.

@plantboy6249

9 ай бұрын

Most of them had to flee after the occupation ended, their heads would've been on spikes.

@dannjp75

9 ай бұрын

Utter rubbish, your dad was a liar. Sorry.

@51WCDodge

8 ай бұрын

@@plantboy6249 Were do you get this complete bollocks from? Have you any links to the Island's? Your on an area 45 sq miles- A quarter of the population is armed invader's. Listen to the BBC on a radio you end up in a concentration camp. Yet many did, and British Civillians gave their lives in Concentration Camps.

Germans marching through town in 1940. British marching through all of Germany in 1945. Meaning it ain't who marches first, it's who marches last that counts.

Due to the Covid 19, we will not this 75th anniversary be having the planned arrangements. however those like myself who where here in 1945. do not forget.May 9th.

@chandrachud

3 жыл бұрын

were you really there

@margaretjehan8085

3 жыл бұрын

@@chandrachud Yes I was there during the occupation of Jersey, I was 10 years old when the War finished, it lasted 5 years.

@chandrachud

3 жыл бұрын

@@margaretjehan8085 that's pretty cool. You've seen a great deal haven't you.

@bradleybailey6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@margaretjehan8085 happy you made it through that 😁❤

British Spitfires didn't come at night to neutralise the Stukas, probably because of the civilians.

i love going to the under ground base on jersey and seeing all the fortifications

3:51 I'm pretty sure the commander of the German occupation did not have a picture of Sophie Scholl in his quarters.

@alecfoster5542

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I noticed that too!

The German 319th Infantry as stationed there the whole war and was one of the largest . Tanks and aircraft wee stationed there also. The island grew tomatoes and as supplies were cut off they eat nothing but. Major Hider was a village commander and I bought his wartime portrait at a second hand store in California. Has it for years until I saw a documentary about the island and heard about him. Made arrangements to return the oil painting back to the islands museum and did.

The Queen's Mother's visit to Guernsey in 1975, I was working at the Royal Hotel and we can see her brief appearance at the Royal balcony in company of the former Governor and the Bailiff of Guernsey.

Many thousands of guernsey and jersey men served with the royal hampshire regiment contributing to the war effort

@51WCDodge

5 жыл бұрын

Be exacy it was just the Hampshire regiment at the time. Don't forget the other services as well Mon V

It's weird to see the German troops marching past English signs and shops

@51WCDodge

7 жыл бұрын

And German propoganda made a lot of it. One infamous photo is of children listening to a German military band in Howard Davis Park. After one pice the bandmaster asked the children 'Who want's a sweet?' The reaction, naturally enough every arm shot up. The picture was published as 'English Children acknowledge the Furher'.

@zampieritto

5 жыл бұрын

The English should embrace the friend Germans

@megakev321

4 жыл бұрын

51WCDodge Sounds like english propaganda.

@KumaBean

4 жыл бұрын

I've made a thread on this subject at the link below, it's picture-heavy depending on your connection 🙂 🍻 www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1202171/pg1

@KumaBean

4 жыл бұрын

PS, just scroll down past the history lesson for the pictures, lol 👍

Look no further than the Channel Islands to know what Britain would have become if Operation Sea Lion had succeeded.

An interesting point: at then 3'50" mark, when the narrator says that "for the doctor in charge there were all the comforts of home" we're shown a room, with a photograph on a desk. Then we see it close-up. It's a portrait photograph of Sophie Scholl, one of the student leaders of the White Rose resistance movement in Germany. She was arrested, condemned to death, and executed by guillotine. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Scholl

@ramblinralph7609

6 жыл бұрын

So why would the doctor have her photo on his desk? British propaganda - rather clumsy effort.

@nozecone

5 жыл бұрын

@@ramblinralph7609 Not like the oh-so-slick Nazi propaganda. Btw: the war's over - your side lost - get over it.

@stevensteptoe682

5 жыл бұрын

This came up on my feed just now (3rd May 2019), and I noticed that too and commented above. I've only just started to scroll down the comments. I'm glad that you noticed her too, as she, and her brother Hans, were true anti-Nazi heroes. As for the inclusion of her photograph here, as I said in my own comment above, " I imagine that the people running the museum used a stock-photograph of a German woman when they mocked-up the Doctor's quarters, without realising who the person in the photograph was." As time passes, the truths in our history slowly emerge, and I imagine that in the late 70s even fewer people, especially in the UK, knew who she was (I know that in Germany people are rightly proud of her, and what she stood for, but here in the UK she's virtually unknown... hence the comment from an idiot like Nozecone).

@nozecone

5 жыл бұрын

@@stevensteptoe682 Huh?? What are you talking about?

@nozecone

5 жыл бұрын

@@stevensteptoe682 I think you're getting the order and place of the comments and replies mixed up, or something. Apology accepted.

Where did supplies of food and essentials come from during the period 6th June 1944 to 9th May 1945?

@Chillypepper7451

Жыл бұрын

So the Red Cross supplied a great deal via a ship called the SS Vega but I believe the British Government also supplied food and medical aid too

This ITV channel TV program from the 70s is also now part of history especially seeing the British Airways Vickers Viscount brings back memories of my first flight at the age of nine to the Isle of Man in a Cambrian Airways Viscount from Speke now John Lennon Airport Liverpool.

@MrDaiseymay

4 жыл бұрын

My first visit was in 1963, via Herne Airport, near Bournemouth, in a very old fashioned 9 seater bi plane. Then again in 1970, from a Gloucestershire Airport, --the name deserts me. It felt adventurous back then, and very noisey

It took so long for the islands to all be liberated that sark was liberated the day after

@MrDaiseymay

4 жыл бұрын

I thought you were going to say weeks after.

Authentic taxi driver statement in 1997 just after I had first landed in Guernsey coming from Dinard, : "Germans are welcomed in the island.... As tourists" .!

Why the photo of Sophie Scholl at 3.54 ?

@tokyosurveillancecorporati9119

4 жыл бұрын

I came here to comment the same thing, my best guess is that it was put there after it was turned into a museum.

Thats my father 6:39 w/op 24 squadron

@ascher40

4 жыл бұрын

Which one? You must be very proud.... I didnt even know about these islands...ive been net surfing.....and came across this video. Very interesting. I would have put an end to the Germans walking around like they're still in charge!!

Us channel islanders we are a special breed . I’m a Guernsey man born and bread . No one today would know what it’s like to have their freedom take away . A very good friend of my family whom like part of mine stayed . She said a person told the English forces we’ve waited so long . We are so glad you’ve come

@SunofYork

Жыл бұрын

"born and bred" ...unless you are a loaf

@51WCDodge

8 ай бұрын

@@SunofYork Ah no, a Donkey. 'A😄

Amazing to see just the quality of the older footage to what we have now! Or maybe the world was dull and gloomy like this and it's evolving to HD and clearer pixels!.oh wait wrong video that's them Who think we live in a simulation lol

Such a relief for all those patient islanders. Should have had some jerrybags lined up in stocks for inspection.

Molto interessante.

I would like to know more about this subject, not just a propaganda film, but interviews with the people who were there at the time...

@MrDaiseymay

4 жыл бұрын

There have been more than one very good TV documentary, about the factual experience, of living under the occupation, Seek them out, on DVD.

@KumaBean

3 жыл бұрын

'Propaganda film', lol

@keithparker5103

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDaiseymay Also a now out of print book called "Islands in Danger" If you can find a copy, a very intetesting read.

My grandfather was living in Guernsey during the nazi .occupation. Dad.was in the RAF.

Why in hell did the doctor in charge of the tunnel hospital have a picture of Sophie Scholl?

When looking at this document, we May have the feeling that here, on the islands , is the highest number of swatiskas our our planet ! Oh, Just before 4 minutes, a photo from young Sophie Scholl, the resistant in Munich Who was to pay with her life her opposition to the party ... !! To realise that German soldiers stayed here til one year After 1944 is also stunning.

Such mindless wars are no more welcome by modern world and should be avoided at all costs We don't want any more wars

A forgotten part of WW2 history.

it has baffled me for years why the marshaling of the allied armada and its crossing on June 6 were so missed by these forward vantage points that the Nazi had.

@Twirlyhead

Жыл бұрын

The (British) Channel Islands are much closer to France than England and on the far side of the Cherbourg Peninsula from the Normandy landings thus there was nothing to see. The nearness to France is also the main reason why Britain abandoned them in the first place; could not be defended. Rejoice for your bafflement is ended; looking at a *map* wouldn't hurt you either.

I was thinking about collaborators…..especially that copper…!!

When the Germans came, why did the Brits left the poor island-people to fate without fireing a single shot?

@keithorbell8946

3 жыл бұрын

The islands were indefensible, it would have condemned 1,000’s of servicemen to death or imprisonment when it seemed they were desperately required on the mainland to defend the (at the time) imminent German invasion of Britain, Operation Seelowe. It also saved the lives of civilians who would have been caught up in the battles.

@9traktor

3 жыл бұрын

@@keithorbell8946 Maybe. After all, civilians seemed to be treated fair by the Germans. After war, some took brides from the island-girls...

@CarlJohnson-wk3rv

2 жыл бұрын

@@9traktor they were not treated fair. The occupation was a grim time. And also all civilians were given the option to seek refuge on mainland U.K., it just many of them (mostly farmers) had to maintain their lively hood or they would have had no island to come back to

@plantboy6249

9 ай бұрын

Because that would have resulted in the heavy bombing of the Channel Islands, civilians and servicemen would have been slaughtered, St. Helier would have been destroyed.

@plantboy6249

9 ай бұрын

@@9traktor Because those island-girls would have been murdered by a mob had they not left.

At 03.53 sophie scholl.

Imagine this but on the mainland

5:10 "...for five years in their futile attempt to subjugate the spirits of the people. For Vice-admiral Hufmeyer, the military commander, the acceptance of defeat, maintaining that typical arrogance which demands 'right-of-way'. ....[as he gently nudges an oblivious British naval captain who is blocking his path off the island]." ....The spirit of EVERY Brit on the island is give way to Vice-Admiral Hufmeyer! "Ja, ja! ....Do you vant me off ziis island or not?!?"

@MrJm323

5 жыл бұрын

Here's why Vice-Admiral Friedrich Hüffmeier is deserving of respect: kzread.info/dash/bejne/faGOtcZvcdu0oaQ.html . (The Granville Raid of March 9th, 1945)

@nozecone

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrJm323 So ... he planned and ordered a successful raid - that's what he gets the bucks for, isn't it? I don't see anything in that video that indicates why he deserves any more respect than any other soldier.

@MrJm323

5 жыл бұрын

@@nozecone ....I do. Interesting, you think the Kriegsmarine was going to dock his pay if he didn't plan the raid (or if it failed)? .....Huh. I don't think that's how it works. On the other hand, he could have called the Royal Navy on the wireless and asked them to accept his command's surrender soon after D-Day or after the fall of Paris. ....And, you figure it was because of his fantastic pay as a flag-grade officer in the Kriegsmarine that made him decide to stick it out. ...Fascinating.

@nozecone

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrJm323 No, I didn't say that's why he did it. From what you say, it sounds like he was just another misguided, arrogant fool who put no value on human life. Respect.

@benadam7753

4 жыл бұрын

I too just saw a gentle nudge! Did Admiral Hufmeyer speak any English? Maybe he didn't how to say "Excuse or pardon me"

The narrator has the same attitude towards the Germans, that the Irish people had towards the British in the 1920's.

During the period of this Anniversary the Queen Mother is known to have been in discussion with senior military officers and MI5, the idea of staging a coup against the current Labour government and installing Lord Mountbatten as defacto dictator. So not really opposed to fascists just non English fascists.

@bigbearfuzzums7027

5 жыл бұрын

That was the dumbest attempt they tryed and then tryed to lie about it!

Never stepped foot on mainland Britain tho 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

@shadowsupremeja7352

3 жыл бұрын

No offense but does air raid count or nah?

@OnlyGrafting

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowsupremeja7352 the airmen that were shot down didn't last very long in the UK before becoming PoWs or dead.

I'm sorry but what are these comments? If you hate the monarchy or just Britain in general why watch this?

The British cop should be ashamed 👎

@KumaBean

3 жыл бұрын

What was the alternative, be shipped off to a concentration camp in Europe, leaving his family to fend for themselves? Come on, you weren't there, none of us can say with absolute certainty how we would or wouldn't act in that situation, they just wanted to survive.

@generaladvance5812

3 жыл бұрын

I bet you would have done exactly the same.

@tomomalley7501

3 жыл бұрын

He did what he had to do. No real choice.

@CAM8689

10 ай бұрын

shut up youtube generals are so stupid..........ppl did what they had to do in the grimmest of circumstances....

How long before our illegal immigrants get their hands on the Channel Islands when we run out of 4* Hotels in the England ?

The Germans did a favour for English language, since the evacuations stopped local kids from speaking the old Norman dialect.

@FatShork

26 күн бұрын

I guess if you consider loss of culture a good thing...

@kaysmith8992

26 күн бұрын

@@FatShork I meant that as a negative, hard to convey tone online :)

Id rather speak german than What we will all be speaking in a few generations - Arabic

@mazadancoseben4818

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you save yourselves Englandistan looks ripe for exploitation

Rule Britannia

Long live the queen that's so funny because she's absolutely hated nowadays haha

@rogernicholls2079

3 жыл бұрын

Scottish bonsai, seems your brain is as stunted as the trees you call yourself,