Well watched this video, and decided my Phaze 3 was to the point I didn't want to bowl with it anymore on dryer lanes. When I first bought the ball it was great but it was a different house condition overall and slowly as it broke in didn't improve. Went to league last night, went in the ProShop and asked them to hit it with 2000. Bowled my first 700 series since coming back to bowling last fall after a 20 year lay off. Shot 214, 262,257 it was magical, the ball did exactly what you said now and it blended the oil and dry and doesn't have that insane backend snap when you find a dry spot. Thanks for the video, you just woke me up to a whole world of opportunity with my equipment :).

This was a perfectly timed video for me. I have a Black Widow Pink that I love, but tends to be too flippy off dry. I hit it with 3000 and it’s perfect now. Thank you!

Thank you so much for making this video! I have a phaze 3 and have had the same problem with the over-under. I am getting surface pads soon so thank you for showing shots with the different surfaces.

Love the Phaze III out of the box, 300 game 1st game of summer league right after getting out of Covid jail.

@jackgalocy8347

2 жыл бұрын

Loved mine too out of box, but it only got better for me when I knocked the shine off it.

I'm going to show this to my teammate who just dropped the Phaze lll from his arsenal. Ball was SEVERELY over/under for him he just could not get consistent no matter how hard he tried. Move right the thing hooked early. Moved left it never made it back. I was having the same problem with GB3 Black and Blue. Always seemed to be stuck in that in between zone. So I took the shine off and I'm in love now. Great mid lane read from anywhere I move and awesome entry angle to the pocket. Doesn't jump too hard off the dry and doesn't skid through the oil. Amazing what taking just a little bit of surface to your ball will do for you.

Had the same problem with my hybrid hyroad.. put 2000 on it and WOW what a difference! It will now read in the oil and not jump immediately off the dry. Shinny or OTB it was exactly what you described at the end of the video. The shape I get out of this ball dull is amazing. I guess cuz it's a hybrid.. it's even a good bit stronger than my idol now. I recommend this to any ball that's extremely over/under.

Whoa 😳 Great tip and timing too... just hit my Baller with 2000 pad surface... due to lane shine... I was nervous at first, but once I hit the surface ball reacted nicely 👍🏽😊👌🏽.... Thanks 🙏🏼 😊🙏🏼 JR...

Im glad you did this video with this ball. I have same problem with it. Never get to use it where I bowl cause it's so strong once it hits the dry. Or if it's oily it wants to slide too long.

Really great video, i have been having this exact problem with the Phaze 3...Plus you are honest when you know you miss a bit.!

My coach told me just before we closed again that I need to put surface on the ball to bowl house shots. You just confirmed it. Great video. Thanks.

@Tcrror

4 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. I only put surface on my ball (old school Xfactor Vertigo was my first choice, Virtual Gravity was my second) when they started to die on me. Other than that, I basically lived outside playing deeper than everyone else. But, then again, I was comfortable doing that.

@doppler4950

4 жыл бұрын

i throw urethane for a game and then i change to the phaze 3 and bowl the same line and it works. power of carry down

Great video! I was displeased with my Phaze 3 as well until I finally bit the bullet and took a 2000 to it. It reads the lane so well now.

@chriswebbtech

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I've had same problem with overhook on back ends, this makes total sense and I'm going for this too!

@ScCrash26

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, out of the box the Phaze 3 was almost unusable...

@Tcrror

4 жыл бұрын

@@ScCrash26 This seems to be a savior for many, many people, but it makes you wonder... Why make a ball that is nearly impossible to use out of the box?

@BowlerXcom

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tcrror , It looks Soooooo pretty! :)

@Tcrror

3 жыл бұрын

@@BowlerXcom Hahahaha, yes it does JR. Yes it does.

Best video I have seen on the phase 3!

Amazing content! Keep doing these!

This ball makes the craziest left turn I've ever seen. I can't imagine ever using this at a tournament.

@KimJongSpoon_

3 жыл бұрын

not out of the box no but after u put some surface on it this ball looks really good.

Thank you for making this video. Keep up the good work!

Thanks for this video. I have a lot of difficulty managing my balls reaction after it gets off the pattern. I've been looking at the PhazeIII but haven't pulled the trigger. I think I might get 2...one shiny and one a little roughed up. The ball appears to have enough control built into it to support both surfaces.

Great explanation JR of how the surface affects ball reaction.

This was a better review of the pads than the CEO did 🍻😎

Most informative videos on KZread.

I haven't changed my Phaze III's surface yet. Its been unreliable so far. I will change the surface to 3000 or 4000. Thanks for the video.

Okay good stuff as always so should you and surface if you normally play around 2nd and 3rd arrows or will it burn up all its energy to soon

So glad you made this video. I just picked up this ball last week and it's annoying when my 17 year old ebonite pearls are more predictable than this ball is. Any thoughts on going 500 -> 3000 for a "smooth bumpy" surface?

Great video as always 👍

I was thinking about getting surface, for my Brunswick se jab. It is the pearl coverstock. What is your opinion on using surface on that ball?

I have mine pin up to the right. I start from the 30 board and throw on the 13 board (Between the arrows) and let it go down lane and snap on the back end. I'm a cranker, but she comes back beautiful. 41 ft house pattern. High series 715 with her (Bowling a year and 4 months(Didn't include the time that Covid shut down bowling alleys)). I love the Phaze 3. I just got the Storm Electrify and they say it's a medium-dry, my buttocks. That ball has more hook than the Phaze 3, so I'll be using it on heavier oil. I've learned a lot watching your videos. Between you and Brad & Kyle, y'all have helped me from form all the way to reading the lanes and ball reaction. I want to start buying your merch to, because I still haven't bought a bowling shirt and I've been wanting to. I love watching your videos!

@thedesigner628

3 жыл бұрын

It has to do with your bowling style. With super high revs, you ball will catch dry, and shift direction, but the ball is skidding when it hits dry, which actually makes your brake point smoother.

That's what I wanted to know! I never trusted the result enough to change my box surface, but now I see what to expect.

@alexmerel9924

4 жыл бұрын

Just because it comes out of the box a certain way means nothing do what you need 80 percent of all my equipment has surface on them

@shannondingus8430

4 жыл бұрын

Alex is right.. any ball you buy and dont love immediately or doesn't fill the spot in your bag you were expecting it to. Dont be afraid to play with the surface. Although some balls need a bit of break in before they settle down. The FLUX is a good example of that. It's a sponge OTB. You will have to move after 3-4 shots with it. After 20-30 games it doesn't soak it up anymore and is 10x better going thru the pins.

this is Forking ROCKKKK!!!!

The 1st shot after using the 5000D was a little to the right at the arrows and you were correct, it reached the dry a lot sooner than the previous strike shot. So it was more that, than the pad. The 5000D will most likely not reduce shine on a shiny ball, and if it does it will be insignificant. Nice video though.

Thank you

im choosing between this and the trend for medium conditions for house shot mainly.

So with these pads I can sand them dry?

Hey do you think I can go to 500 then polish back with some black magic polish?

Please do the All-road!!! Great vid

What grit does it come out the box as thought it was 1500 already

I got a 300 bowling ball and I want to know how can I do a curveball for bowling tournaments to get better

Jr.. your over under is your layout. You lay all your stuff at 5 inch + pins. If you got a ball with a shorter pin to cg and drilled it 4inch pin to pap you would have less over under and a whole lot of power

Great video! Cant wait for Classic to open back up and try surface changes to my Halo Pearl which gives me same over/under as that Phase 3

@frankschmidt3960

3 жыл бұрын

My Halo Pearl just does not seem to have any life. It's fairly new, not that many games. I recently restored the surface to factory polished using CTD pads & polish. Did you add surface & at what grit? I'm thinking about trying CTD 3000.

@kengaida3182

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankschmidt3960 Lanes just opened up here in Michigan a couple weeks ago. Haven't been able to practice and try out surface changes. I have CTD 3000 and 2000 Abrilon to try on it. Best of luck.

@frankschmidt3960

3 жыл бұрын

@@kengaida3182 Thanks, I got a reply from another bowler stating he took his polished pearl down only to the ctd 5000 pad by hand which gives you a 4000 grit, and he did not add polish. Said the result was great, I may start there and adjust. Thanks

I had to take a 3000 to mine and polish it up. Way too aggressive for me until I did that and it’s still my strongest ball.

@jacewelsh8537

4 жыл бұрын

Polish makes it sharper lmao.

Help me find the best ball for me, I’ve been away from bowling for 35 years and buoy have balls changed. I’m averaging 185 with the ball I have, I do not create a lot of rev’s, more so a straight up 7-10 board. Will a different ball help me be able to move inside more. Lane conditions different every night.

@jeromebegany1634

3 жыл бұрын

I currently use a Kinetic ruby

The phaze 2 or axiom would be the better choice on fresh. Phaze 3 is better for when the backends are not as crisp or for getting in deep

@thedesigner628

3 жыл бұрын

The problem with dirty backends is that the moment this ball hits some carry down, it just slides.

Serious question, if you re-surface your ball too often, won't it become noticeably smaller over time?

@exilebear42

4 жыл бұрын

Well of course. It takes awhile to wear it down considerably tho.

Great video i would like to see you change the surface of the volatility. I took mine up to 3000 with the same pads you have and wow what a ball. I am still deep but i dont destroy the pattern at my house and i dont have to make crazy moves. Keep up the great.content.

Honestly just thought the ball was garbage and over hyped when it came out. I’ll have to try this

Interesting,but unfortunately still waiting for our bowling alleies to open.

I dont really understand why my phaze 3 doesnt hook like that. I keep it in a bag in my room when I'm not bowling and after about 4 months of use it barely hooks, I have to put my max possible revs for it too hook

@CurtisL8.3066

4 жыл бұрын

How many games do you have on it? After about 50 games my P3 kinda died. It’s clean and has a little wiggle downlane that I don’t like

@martozoneast1098

4 жыл бұрын

@@CurtisL8.3066 probably around 40 or 50 games

@Alldayertexas

3 жыл бұрын

@@martozoneast1098 It would be time to Detox and resurface

@thedesigner628

3 жыл бұрын

Storm Equipment (back in the day) had a reputation for dying quickly. Resurface and remove the oil

Glass Bowl in Toledo!

everything storm finishes with polish i automatically sand with 1000 grit before i put holes in it. they finally figured it out with the matchup black pearl, step two then 3000 grit from the factory

@alexmerel9924

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but keep mind that is for you if I had a rev rate of 300 and my ball speed on the monitor was 13 that is 15 or 15.5 off the hand them I would need the polish because I would want the ball to get Downlane and not burn up

@thedesigner628

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexmerel9924 This thing couldn't burn up out of the box if you set it on fire before releasing it. It reads oil like my plastic does...

Just a note: The volume of your voice is kinda low and the volume of your intro music is super, super louder! So I had my volume up high to hear your voice and when the intro hit it blasted my ears and I had to throw off my headset! You really want to "normalize" all levels for future videos. A free program called Audacity will allow you to easily do this in post production. This video was very good and showed how to take a virtually unusable over/under nightmare and make it perfect by simply taking all that dumb shine off it.

@bowlingxp8345

4 жыл бұрын

Ι agree 100%. I am learning to use it in my own videos.

I used green scratch pad then a little 4000 way better off the spot

I wanna see a 500 grit on this ball the forbidden phase lll

Would be helpful if you mention the surface out of the box. Makes for more perspective. I really like that your doing reviews using surface changes. Makes it easier to see the effects of the changes. Also, I now understanding the term blending the wet / dry.

@alexmerel9924

4 жыл бұрын

1500 polish

So, you turned the phase 3 into a phase 2!!!

@RAM_845

Жыл бұрын

I own a Phase 2 still 2 weeks old...getting the hang of the finger-tip. My previous ball was a plastic conventional setting.

So you jumpin on the thumbnail train huh. My man.

So the lower the grid it hooks more?

@Bunghole35

3 жыл бұрын

It slows the ball down so you can get a smoother transition to the pocket

What does it mean 5 2 ?

@gzlishim

3 жыл бұрын

5 boards left with his feet, one dot, and 2 at the arrows. An angular adjustment.

those lanes look half wood half synthetic

This is great vid!!!

Your should always crack the factory surface.... there is no possibility to recreate it when it's time to resurface... so you should get to know the ball after the surface has been cracked.

@jdizzlef83

4 жыл бұрын

Never use the term "crack" in a bowling ball discussion. It's bad juju lol

@alexmerel9924

4 жыл бұрын

Its still subjective if I am a senior with 13 mph I don't need to scuff a ball but if I am a 2 hander that throws it 20 and bowl in a house with pro anvalane that's house shot is 29 mills then yes I need to hit my stuff with 1000 or 2000 k

@jaxteller304

4 жыл бұрын

So once you put 50 games on it or even 100... will you resurface the ball or get a new one?... so once you resurface it you will never be able to replicate the factory surface.... in turn the ball will not roll the same... my whole point

You standing with your back in the camera. I Cant see nothing. Love from Holland.

I know this video was to show the ability to change surface and how it affects the balls reaction, but I feel like adding that much surface to a phase 3 turns it into a phase 2. Probably not a bad thing either since the phase 2 is one of the best balls out there.

@alexmerel9924

4 жыл бұрын

No one is a solid early cover the 3 will never be that early too clean of a cover to start in the heads

@thedesigner628

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't the Phaze 2 a solid coverstock and the Phase 3 hybrid?

At times your hand is behind the ball and at times its on the side.. Not very consistent

@Alldayertexas

3 жыл бұрын

In the video he does that on purpose depending on whether or not he is getting more on it or not. He has a video on creating more revs which explains why he is doing that

WTF @4:48

Great review! Bad soy face, just saying 😂

We're breeding a new generation of lazy, entitled bowlers who lack versatility. The equipment plays the game more and more with each passing year. All the ball needed was for the bowler to move a few boards right for a more down and in line