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Chameleon Cha Quad One / Cha Spider ASB, Ham Radio Antennas, Review
I had a lot of request for these two products, so I purchased them, along with some Shark hamsticks. In the future video I will be giving them all away. Just my way of saying thanks.
Chameleon has continued to impress me with their products, although I am a little late to the party because there are a lot of hams that use their products. I currently own the Chameleon P loop 2.0 and the MPAS 2.0 and love them both.
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This would be awesome to have as I am a new General class and just trying to decide on my first HF antennas. Thanks again for all you do. Love thew channel.
Thanks for the overview and demo of the Chameleon and Shark products. Glad lots of contacts were made with this setup!
Great to see how antennas are set up. Good product descriptions. Count me in on the contest!
every time i watch you, I find new stuff that i just need to have!
I'm very impressed with that setup. Great and informative video too. Thank you for making it. I'll have to price it to Ireland and start saving!!!
So glad to see the reviews on these. I have 2 handy talkies that I use as I can't afford a bigger radio or antenna at this time. Always glad to learn something! BTW, you make me miss Florida as I grew up in St. Pete and live in NC now. LOL
Thanks Eric and John for the great review. I’ll throw my name in the hat for the giveaway. Looks very promising. If I don’t win I will definitely be purchasing the antenna.
Hey guys I love your videos. The weather looks awesome there
I am new to HF and I have been going about the antenna setup all wrong. This looks simple and effective. I would love to give it a try!!
I am studying for my Technician and General class, whenever the testing resumes. As a newcomer to the hobby, I am finding your videos very helpful and sure do appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Thank you for showcasing these antenna products; they look handy for an HOA, limited space, or even an RV or other portable application.
@AndrewMurphy8383
4 жыл бұрын
there is a alaska club that is doing remote testing all you need is computer and gen lic there when u take it threw them
@AndrewMurphy8383
4 жыл бұрын
and there is no need to pay threw them either
Another great review Eric. Would love to have a set as I too live in a HOA community and have difficulty operating. Keep up the great work.
That is a very ingesting set up. Easy up and down for people like me in an HOA. I currently set up a vertical when ever I work HF. Only issue is how noisy it can be.
Have to say extremely well made and perfect for those of us in HOA Condos. Our Deck is infant and we have no yard to speak of. Haven't been on HF now in 4 years and it's making me crazy. Still continue to test and get new folks out but I'm like the benched QB on the team. I have a SW antenna out there and this setup would be perfect. No one would say a thing about it. I have a brab=nd new 7300 coming this week. Yeah I just bit the bullet and pulled the trigger. Win, lose or Draw, I'll be snagging this. Even the Quad so I could sit on 80 and 40, think I'm alright, have to go back and make my 57 Y.O. brain work a little. Those are the bands I always worked. Every now and then 20 and 17 as well if conditions were right but I'd sit up all night and work 80. I'd love to start again, best part I'm going to.
@paulpannell8724
4 жыл бұрын
You will really like the 7300. I have one and its my go-to HF radio. Looking at getting the Quad myself. Hopefully it will work NVIS so I can stay in touch with my emergency communications groups. You are still young at 57. Welcome back on the air. 73 and stay safe
Really love your videos have learnt alot of them over the last few years keep safe from northen ireland
Impressed with Chameleon! I’m a newbie Corona isolated sudden ham fan! 🤣 waiting for my tech handbook to take the exam and squeeze that PTT . Just got an entry Level MD-UV380 just hearing repeaters. I learn a lot with your videos. Keep up the good work. I’m from South Florida too. 73
Like John, I live in a HOA, and have been eying a MPAS as an option. I guess I need a HF rig also..... Thanks for the video’s, keep them coming.
Great video, these antennas look really promising for hf field day setups.
I have a pair of Shark antennas on my truck...40 and 20m with a 7100. They work like a champ! Got them from Universal Radio. Great video Eric!
New ham here that is fur-lowed till this crap is over. I enjoy your videos. Keep em coming, I’m learning from term. Getting a used Yaesu FTM 300 as soon as they get it. (ordered a month ago)! And my Elmer is borrowing me a Yaesu 840 to listen to. Ready for my General test but CV19 is causing a delay 🥺
That woulds work great for my apartment out here in the West Texas Desert. Great Video
I didn't know Chameleon made other antenna's. I thought they just made the loop. Thanks for another great video...
@RobPetty622
4 жыл бұрын
Many different ones over the years. Check out the MPAS, which can be configured into a wire antenna or a vertical.
Thanks for showing the inside of it, now I can make my own!
Great demo! And it was great to work you on the air yesterday morning on the "harpoon net" with some of my local club guys. Thanks for checking in! 73-N1NUG
Great review. Have my General license but no HF rig yet. These antennas would be a great start.
Nice review and is even better that the products are american made for change thank you for the reviews.
I have my General, but have never been on the air. Thanks for the videos! I would like to get an IC-7300 and it is difficult to decide where to start with an antenna.
Thank You Eric & John ..!!
Shark Distributing whips are good quality. I have heard the set screws don't strip out as easy as the MFJ hamsticks do. I get great signal reports on 20 and 40 meters with my mobile setup IC-7100 with a IC-7300 microphone and adapter, LDG IT-100 tuner and a Diamond K400-3/8C2 mount.
73 guys. I have the MFJ mini-dipole for 1 band at a time and a pair of their hamsticks for all of the bands. My tripod is one of the ebay army surplus tentpole constructs. So I can use 1 hamstick in my car's trunk mount or a pair of them on any band. The quad mount looks intriguing for getting 2 hf bands up at one time. I may upgrade to that, thanks for the demo. W0JWD in Georgia.
Great video, I had a question on whether this type of antenna would require a rotator if this was to become a permanent base antenna
Hey Eric, I know this is over a year old but great video as usual. Wondering how well this would hold up as a permanent installation up about 20 feet. I’m on the Georgia coast and we sometimes get good winds around here along with the occasional hurricane threat. Of course everything would come down then. Thanks and 73, KO4DNI
I'm receive my General little while ago.. I use inverted V. It doesn't work at my location. On 40M I only can make 1 or 2 contacts per day.. Love to try chameleon.
Been looking at this. Since I live in a very strict HOA. I have been setting up and antenna outside every time I want to use my radio but trying to find an antenna I can setup discreetly and leave in place.
Thanks for the video..but just to be clear, to work the 20 and 40 meter bands I would need (2) 20 meter band ham sticks and (2) 40 meter band ham sticks for the cha quad one? right?
nice work and option for those with HOA ,seem to be well built me getting one soon 73 s
I'm in midtown Manhattan , stuck home. just bought a new comet CMA-CA-2X4SR from dx engineering to put on top of my air conditioner w/ a magnamount on the 22nd floor apt.
@piperjones9922
4 жыл бұрын
would love to know how that turns out.
Another great video Eric & John, Great to see you push American made, as us in VK. Australian Made Checkout the FAMPARC WHIP, a club made tapped whip, now called the HAMPARK. Its a killer and well worth a test
As always, great video! I’ve thought about this for in my attic. From one side to the other, what is that approximate length?
This would be good for the new station that just picked up Saturday
Please tell me about the ferrite beads at the end of you coax. Mix? how many? where you obtained them, ect.
Hi Eric..on that HOA..and in the attic..well, two years ago I could have installed the double opposed but in fall last year, a full set of solar panels up on the roof..so a tip up and down per use mast with a couple long wires or dipole at roughly 21 feet, or a vertical for local club V/U chat or packet late night. Arizona just south of San Tan Valley...is the retirement soon. 73 kb8qlz Gary
I need some antennas to improve my signals! Just starting a new hobby - OK, I do have about 10+ other hobbies, but Ham Radio is a must - right??? I can also use some portable radios, and d I don't care if used or bad visual condition, as long as it works! Thanks for your videos and I'm happy to see you giving stuff away - I love giving stuff to others and plant a seat that grows and grows into a great hobby! Have a great and clean signal everywhere!
@HamRadioConcepts
4 жыл бұрын
By chance, is Jetskis one of your other hobbies?
@tonysfun
4 жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioConcepts No, I like to stay dry and I love my body the way it is, despite severe Fibromyalgia.... I tinker in electronics, Arduino, 3D printers, laser cutter, lathe and welding .... I love to fix stuff and help others also, like handicapped friends on wheelchairs, that can't afford to hire someone.... You can see little about me here: tonysfun.com/ and my youtube channel: kzread.info/head/PLv52A7rm-UViZEOlzZfZOB9Gl8cjS3ze5 When I can I also go to clubs, including our local Ham Radio Club.... In the past, Ham Radio clubs were making stuff - that is why I started there in 1969 as a teenager, in Czech Republic, under a nice guy named Mr. Helebrant, who spoke several languages, including English, using his Ham Radios he made. And now, after 50 years I rekindle my interests in electronics also, but the local club don't make stuff no more. It is sad to see talented people not soldering stuff, like they did in the past. People just buy made stuff and lost interest in the soldering part of the hobby. But I do shows and invite people here, so we can play with electronics and make something that demonstrate a capacitor and resistor and how changing the values changes the blinking LED's - their speed turning one off and the other on .... Thanks for asking.
I was also looking on how to enter the Give away with out much luck , and sat here reading most of the Comments and sound most are enjoy the videos I been watcing for like 6 months and I am a Subscriber member , I would enjoy and use the 4 ham stick unit for my RV thanks for the videos
@HamRadioConcepts
4 жыл бұрын
I'll let everyone know in my next video upload on the giveaway
Great video Eric and John. Learned something new. Where did John get the tripods? My wife, K4SBP and I, K4XRA are volunteer campground hosts in Georgia State Parks. I think this setup would work for us. Will these also work for NVIS?
All American!!!!! That's a really cool set up.
Be nice to have one of those! Really nice set up guys.
Are the hamsticks up high enough to radiate primarily in a broadside pattern? I've been told that if a dipole is lower than its optimal height that it tends towards the omnidirectional. Not perfectly omni, of course, but not completely broadside, either.
Have the quad one and thinking about jumping on the spider - it’s solid gear
do you think it would be possible to either put a mag mount vhf on top of the spider? or maybe install another connection on top of the spider (drill hole on top cover, run coax through the octopus) for 2m vhf? I think I see this set up in N1GY's set up in the original article in the QST article
Great video!
Eric. I’m looking for an antenna option for my RV when we don’t have trees around for the dipole. Was thinking of a screwdriver, but would you say either of these is a better option? Thanks! KE0VIM
I wander if you could use four ham sticks of the same band on the quad mount for omni work. I mean if all you had was a single band radio like the MFJ travel radios or the cw transceivers?
Great video, nice product...
I have the Chameleon TD Lite. It is a high quality antenna. Chameleon does not make junk! An antenna like that would be great for emergency communications,
Lovely location - not a fan of the concept of HOAs but you can see why people want them. I saw the inside of the Spider and there's no balun - interested in this for WARC bands + 1 other but just didn't see how it it would work to coax but then again I guess a ham stick on a magmount doesn't need a transformer either. Great video 73 DE Mike M0SAZ.
Make an umbrella out of it, then nobody would expect an antenna.
@Barracuda48082
4 жыл бұрын
Nice idea..hmmm
@JRaynor99
4 жыл бұрын
"NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!"
@iowaprepper7775
4 жыл бұрын
@@JRaynor99 Spanish Inquisition. The good old days. Lol
@gregbarthol5381
4 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT!!!!! lol
@noelbulls8628
3 жыл бұрын
That is a brilliant idea mate lol.
did the jumper with ferrite core come with the mounting head ? if not where can you get one? or do you have to have one? the one i bought did not come with one. miss you on this channel .
Ooh, I like the umbrella idea. U cud also add enough wire to a pair of 10 meter ham sticks for a full 1/2 wave dipole on any band since 10 m hamsticks don't have a coil below the whip. W8XP
Guys, would you mind tell me which brand of tripod were you using on the chamaleon antenna? I move to my new home under HOA and unfortunately I can’t rise my AV640 vertical so I am looking for option to play on the backyard... thanks de XE1XZQ Diego
On the spider what type of antenna would it make if you used 4 of the same 4- 10Meter and 4-12 meter also what if you used all 8 of the same? Does it make it better or worse?
How would this setup compare to a wire dipole center fed for 20 meter up at 33 feet.
Always good info..thanks 73
♥HamRadioConcepts
Hi Eric. Thank for the video. I assume the 40m stick would work on 15. Did you try it?
So, the question I have, Eric.. The instructions say not to set the units up with odd bands.. ie, Don't set up the 40 with the 15, etc. How does this work with the Spider? If you have the option of four bands?
kn4kbh here and I would love to be added to your gift list as I am a retired new ham radio operator and I like that antenna system .
Is it durable enough to be used as a base antenna in the northeast.... Would you see a higher performance using the D40 Cushcraft Rotatable Dipole on 40m Compared to The Spider on 40m The extra bands are icing on the cake but I am mainly interested with 40
Good video count me in i would love an antenna like that i really appreciate all you do
That's really cool. Thanx for showing us. HOA problems? No HOA in the world cal stop anyone from 'erecting' an antenna called the SAD-40. That antenna is using the same concept as my Michigan Cacti, which is a 4 band vertical with parallel elements. No traps, etc. Basically it's a vertical half-of-a-fan-dipole if that makes sense. No interraction between elements. 73 OM
Nice antenna system!
@8:45 if you look at these inerts, you could .... Mark of where the split of the two element connection start. ( between the black and red connection on the bottom ) and I would maybe try two 40 ore 20 meter hamsticks and attach them to the blue and black connections and have a directional horizontal V antenna. And maybe you could try this, just for giggles. See if that could work. Anyway thanks for sharing this video.
Instead of two hamsticks, can you use one ham stick and a counter poise wire on the other end...?
Eric, have you or any of your viewers ever mounted this so its vertically polarized?
Could you put two of the same band hamsricks on it in order not to need a rotor?
I had a lighting strike at my house. I might go that way to replace the g 5 r v. it hit at the ladder line. it was not hooked to any thing. but it took out a Drake receiver and a free play radio that I had in there and then it traveled to the living room and fried my mates tower computer. I just wonder what it did to the inside of my drake receiver. it did not hurt my 706 or power supply and it did not bother another receiver that was under the Drake. sorry to rattle on but your video was great I listened to it in four parts. had to cut six lots of grass washed the dishes and broke a belt on the old tractor I live in southern Ill so I know I won't get one but I sure giga arts have them.
Here is a sick question. Do you think it would be possible to get TWO of the CHA Quad hubs, maybe mount one above the other by x feet (maybe 2-3 feet?) and then you could put a pair of 10M ,20M, 40M, 75M on one quad hub and put 6M, 15M, 30M, 80M on the other. Thus giving you basically all the bands aside from 160M, 17M, and 12M on one rotatable pole. Ideally it would be on one coax, but I guess even having 2 coax feeds and a switch might not be too bad.
Looks like these come in a standard and mini size. 44" and 33". Did you try the mini or just the standard size?
Interesting they isolated the ground side whips from the metal case. It also looks like the SO-239 ground is isolated from the metal case. Did they do that in case it was mounted to a metal pole which would add antenna length to the ground side? That would make sense.
Nice video. GigaParts is running a special this weekend. Decent bundle, no stateside shipping. My question: how much of each band is available once you tune that band? For example, if I tuned 40, what kind of bandwidth could I expect at a decent
I am a new HAM, could you please explain the various products and possible approximate costs for the hamsticks, tripod, and the Chameleon box. Would love to purchase a set-up if I can afford them
Can’t seem to find these anywhere on the internet. Did they quit producing them?
Hey got a questions for you.....What is the BW of those sticks...I see most are very narrow (like 60khz) for less than 2:1 SWR... Can you do a sweep? I see Procomm and Shark are about 150khz with 40m. Funny MFJ doesn't advertise that info.
Can this be mounted vertical? I picture this on my mind like and inverted V for 40 meters and a upright V for 20 coming out of my apartment t window. I'm willing to bet this will be the killer set up IM on a Third floor.
Whatever antenna is available I would appreciate.
It looks like the feed point coax outer shield is insulated from the aluminum chassis. Correct???...well it is a dipole...
How do you enter? :) Good to meet you in Orlando. I am a little HF burnt out also. Just got done with the Nebraska QSO Party...NI0P
How about a trellis, tall one to disguise the antenna?
This is Perfect for 20 and 40 Meters, Mag Loops Antennas are also good for Apartments Use,
What is the green vertical antenna on your pack at the beginning it’s just what I’ve been looking for? Great vid matey M0dsy
@expert244
4 жыл бұрын
D Bailey - Chameleon MPAS 2.0
This looks like a great little antenna!!! I have been looking for something like this! W6RUT
I talked to the folks at Shark antennas and discussed the idea of making a updated version of a HAM stick to use them with the various hubs, octopus etc making them less of a compromise. They may contact you, or if YOU are in contact with them, encourage the idea of the market for these antennas to use not mobile but at home or portable multi band or even just a much better single band dipole. A 16 foot or even a 3 part 12 ft. version would still be usable and be way more efficient especially 20 meters and above.
What happened to the link in the description?
Really want to get on the air. Could use one, one or the other
Very good for not much space, I've said this before on your channel I'm a newbie at 71, and trying different things thanks for what you do. Like my own home made yagi that I'm getting good reports on that's American made right? I dream to try these things while I still can. KD9OAM 10:00 DONT PUT THE LID ON YET!!! 73's YALL!!
Love the small footprint idea even though room is not that big of a deal for me KC4SOT
Man could really use one of these, no antenna right now but I have my radio and really want to get on the air! I could take this anywhere here in North Florida.
@keno4755
4 жыл бұрын
I keep checking back, so excited about this giveaway!
@keno4755
4 жыл бұрын
Just checking back!
That would be a great companion to my HF raingutter antenna.
@AERVBlog
4 жыл бұрын
I am in the same boat with the rain gutter antenna but I don't think I could get away with this. I already have complaints about the "ugly wires all over the place" (2 RG58U) that lead from my window to to the gutter (10 feet) and the 6 inch long 9:1 balun on the ground feeding the gutters. What I wouldn't give to live someplace with my own yard.
@kevinrhodes9329
3 жыл бұрын
Could you post a picture of your rain gutter setup on here thanks Kevin kd7kyb
I follow all of your videos and find them educational too. But this antenna is a purely portable and compromise type! during contests you can of course hear a lot of stations! but that does not mean that you will be heard by all of them! Was the pre amp on or off?
That setup looks intriguing! As a new ham (at the ripe old age of 68!) I'm just now trying to set up my first HF rig, and antennas are an issue that this may solve! Thanks and 73 from W1NLJ Eric, have you tried this at home, and how does it compare to your other antennas??
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
4 жыл бұрын
I’m just getting back into it after a while myself. I’m playing with magnetic loops. I found them to be better performers than shortened dipoles that this is, however, they are much narrower in bandwidth. The dipoles are easier to throw together
Would nice to get it up another 10ft.