Challenging milling of big block (cnc milling)
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Challenging roughing of big block (cnc milling)
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Hi guys. I tried to turn off the air cooling in the video as much as possible so that the milling sound could be heard. While editing the video, I noticed that my colleague Andrej was fooling around behind me, so I left it in the video 🙂
Máte dobrú prácu. Zapnete stroj, idete na pivo, vrátite sa o deň neskôr a práca je hotová.
Peter from South Africa you doing super nice tooling ,you need to get your own injection moulding machines,keep up the good work God bless
You know you have a massive machine when you can walk trough the table while setting up that massive stock 😂
As much as the machining is impressive as in itself, the setup and indexing is even more.
What a nice job, we got payed for doing our hobby! Win win. 🏆
I work in a mold shop to I do side work running a horizontal mill cnc its really fun and satisfying work
wow very rare someone else that uses cimatron!! im a programmer in a mold shop and we use it i like it a lot
@dongge100
6 ай бұрын
中国用的还是蛮多的
Ждём продолжения.
Сегодня испытал две новые пресформы литьём алюминия под давлением, у одной толкатели затрещали на первой же прессовке, а на третей прессовке совсем обломился один толкатель и на поверхности появились трещины, при испытании второй пресформы тоже на поверхности появились трещины возле прессостатка. Впервые за 20 лет работы такое увидел
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Вероятно ошибка конструктора
Realizaba trabajos de este tipo durante 15 años, inyeccion de plástico y metales. A la hora de cobrar mi salario, recibía igual que los torneros.... Pues me volví tornero, ya duermo tranquilo..!!! 😌😌😌😌
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Primero trabajé como tornero durante 14 años, ahora trabajo como fresadora durante 15 años.
Mesmerizing, thanks for sharing your work with us
You should try to say "Boom!" more in the videos. 😂
very good job CncFrezar
Lindo trabalho parabéns este é um grande profissional
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
bem obrigado
Hi, what would be faster, roughing rhe side with a long stickout tool at the start or flipping the part and then roughing the top?
Nicely tuned speeds and feeds, sounds mint !
Thanks for showing, but as far as the striking of the workpiece you need to work on the safety! No edge protection on both chain and rope. Yes, even life-threatening steel on steel results in a risk of slipping for the part and so fast you can not jump in Save
You have a lot of trust in the software. I got scared with clearsnve of er nut 😅
Excellent work
Máte pěkně tuhou mašinu radost ta rychloposuvovka
Nice Works!
Hi guys, What are you using to hold down that cavity? where can i get some info on it. Thanks
Hello! is there any chance of you putting the surface speed along with the rpm on the tool information! its all very useful but i have to go through and pause at each fram to work it out :) thankyou for the videos
@michaelbrocato7535
Жыл бұрын
3:12
Good job ! Awsome
Пресс форма , класс !!!
To vyzera ako mold na excentricky lis :)
Good job
Что в итоге получилось? Футляр для скрипки?
What type of clamping devise did you use to hold this part? Your machining is very impressive!
@CncFrezar
11 ай бұрын
thanks. We bought the clamps here: upinace.cz
Круто!
E muitas tecnologias 👍👍😎😎
Great sir Im Indonesian
That's awesome
Hi friend ! It's good and i guess that it is a aluminum casting mold, right ?🎉🎉
It's so nice 👍👍👍
Great job!!! Please tell me what is the approximate processing time for this form?
Love it. Is that a Renishaw RMP60 probe you're using? We've gone from machining big hard metal pieces in our place to almost exclusively 7050 Aluminium. Biggest piece is 3.2 tons and ends up as an 80kg finished part
@CncFrezar
7 ай бұрын
Yes, it is an RMP60 probe
When you see a machined part like this, try and visualise what it's negative would be, to make a decision on what it is
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
It is a mold into which aluminum is poured
Buenas Quizás,,, base inferior o superior de un molde de inyeccion Saludos desde Norte España
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
yes
Jaki czas obróbki zgrubnej tak ogólnie ? Ile razy zmienialiscie płytki ? ;D
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Nie mogę mówić o czasie, ale przewracałam plastry co 3 godziny
@thanachayossarntisak7105
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezargu7b
Congratulations on the very good video, what steel is this friend? It is not hardened with the cutter at this speed?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Hi. It is a tool steel. It is written at the beginning of the video. It was just roughing it so it doesn't matter.
👍
Сколько вот на такую датель по кругу припуск перед термообработкой обычно хватает?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Если вы имеете в виду припуск на материал, то даем 4 мм
Waow
Sir I want to ask that why we don't use lubircation when milling the first layer of the workpiece?
@Radex99
9 ай бұрын
You can mill steel without coolant. It's better for inserts because they don't receive thermal shock. They stay warm/hot all the time instead of getting hot and cooling down by every rotation.
why no coolant?
The man is a character from a horror movie. 0:37 s The Last of Us.
@dielnacnc8130
Жыл бұрын
horor movie 😁
do Milling without coolant has some negative effect on the finishing? or it doesnt matter? sorry im new in this
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
It is cooled by air. Today's tools are built for air cooling.
شكرا لقد ادعمتك في قناتك
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
نعم. مرحباً بك
Bueno
Why is it smoking all the time? is there some oil leak, because pure steel shouldnt smoke like that, right?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Leaks on the spindle. That machine is a piece of junk
What kind of cycle time is that part? Also what type of finish requirement do you have to achieve
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
It's just roughing, so the finish doesn't matter. I can't talk about times.
@alexgregg2466
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar no problem, do you make vidoes of the finishing or is that also not allowed?
Nice video👍
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Ja ti dám nice. Nevieš po slovensky?😛
0:41, you should be careful there are zombies in your shop
Amazing job !!!! one question....why not coolant?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. It is cooled by air.
i like it
Can you do crank case wave 125 for me please.
Is it better choice tool steel 1.2311 for injection mould rather than 1.2343.What is your expirience?
@CncFrezar
7 ай бұрын
I don't know, we only use 1.2343
Hi, how many mm the cutter 16 Is out? 80 approximate? Is the cutter anti vibration?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
The holder is extended to 85 mm. It is ordinary steel
@pappina821
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar thanks
Jak řešíte vykreslování mezi operacema ? Když programuji nějaké vetší tvarové plochy právě rychloposuvovkama (nemá to rádo torusové frezy při vypočítávání polotovaru) a navazuji hrubovacími operacemi na sebe takže musím vykreslovat odběr a CAM těžce nestíhá tady jste to museli nějak řešit předpokládam
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Ahoj. Keď hrubujeme nevykreslujeme nič. Dáme v každom hrubovacom programe vypočítať zbytkový mat.a ďalšia fréza vie kde už nemá ísť. Samozrejme ten CAM počíta aj z vyložením držiaka.
@Tops872
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar dělám v Topsolid a tam když vyhrubuju řekněme prvních 50 mm z nějaké desky tak pokud to nedám vykreslit odebrany material tak další hrubovačka jede jako by první neodebrala nic tzn ve vzduchu .. a když to dam u první vykreslit tak že mi z toho PC podělá tam máte něco jako "nevykreslit ale spočitat zbytek materialu" ?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
@@Tops872 Napr. Dám vyhrubovať 40tkou frézou a obmedzím hĺbku aby hrubovala len do hlbky 30mm.Mám možnosť aktualizovať materiál alebo neaktualizovať. Keď dám aktualizovať tak ďalšia mensia fréza napriklad 20tka bude do hlbky 30 mmm len odoberať zbytky napríklad zmenšovať rádiusy a od hlbky 30 mm bude dalej pokračovať v plnom hrubovaní.
@brendancopsey4216
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, what is the unit you have shaped ?
@Tops872
Жыл бұрын
@@brendancopsey4216 i use 0,01mm and 1° even if i use 0,2mm and 15° i have the same problem. Every time I render even a simple 3D machining, topsolid crashes after 3-5 min.
Alal vera!
Does all the swarf get recycled? Or is it just wasted?
@CncFrezar
6 ай бұрын
Yes, everything is recycled
А для чего интересно эта заготовка
100% techno
Do you plan for warping due to Internal stress in the material when removing so much mass?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
It's just roughing it, so it's cool
@HITTAGAME
Жыл бұрын
Use shims to check
hi ,what´s the name of the clamping sistem you are using
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Upinace.cz
what do you use for vises?
@CncFrezar
5 ай бұрын
upinace.cz
Hello,i need info rpm at finishing
Hello, please what’s the name or brand of your clam system to the machine table?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
upinace.cz
@koorgan2006
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar thanks so much!!
for what ist that cnc-milled block?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
it is a mold for aluminum
А разве СОЖ не нужна на таких станках? Видно что синяя стружка летит.
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Да, охлаждающая жидкость тоже нужна, но не при таком типе фрезерования.
Great work! I’d like to know the tool life of hi feed cutter.
@CncFrezar
7 ай бұрын
Hi. About 3 hours at this cutting speed
Is that a stamping die for automotive application?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
I don't know what it's for, but probably not.
I have the feeling youtube randomly unsubscribed me from you
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for youtube
What is it, a mold?
Are you using dampened holders for the highfeed mills?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Only steel. If the holder is long, then carbide
0:14 only few privileged people know what means the Z symbol between colored jewels on your wallpaper 😍
Very strange looking part, is that some sort of casting mould? Certainly doesn't look mechanical on it's own.
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Casting mould.
Once you crash and burn into a 200 hour mold half this sound is no longer soothing.
Why did you remove that strip of material? @1:50
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
It is used for centering from the other side
What type of work holding clamps are those?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
upinace.cz
Hard to believe that little block weighs 1.3 ton
@Mechanarian
Жыл бұрын
Little?
@6Twisted
Жыл бұрын
@@Mechanarian "little"
@XtreeM_FaiL
7 ай бұрын
Average.
Money has no religion it itself a religion
Please update seperate video for cutter, End mill and ball nose parameters like rpm, feed , step over and depth of cut.
Why do they cool with air and not with water? ¿porque refrigeran con aire y no con agua?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
No water is used for roughing! There would be a thermal shock and the blades would crack
@roysotelo9644
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar But if they used water from the beginning of the roughing, there wouldn't be such a thermal shock, why don't they use water from the beginning? pero si usaran agua desde el inicio del desbaste, no existiria tal choque termico, porque no utilizan agua desde el inicio?
cnc professor
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
😀
insane! how long did this take to program?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Programming about 30 minutes, but milling about 2 days
@da9elb
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar Damn that's impressive! Would've taken me hours in Edgecam. Which CAM software do you use?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
@@da9elb If you watched the video, you should know that.At the beginning of the video, I run the software. Its name is Cimatron.
@martinswiney2192
Жыл бұрын
What he means is that it took about 30 minutes for an existing program to download to his machine. These type parts are forming or mold dies from some type of large company. Probably automotive. Their programs for these parts are proprietary information so the actual program is coded by the customer. The company paying to have this part made. The cnc operator, not a machinist, downloads this program to run the parts. Then the program is deleted from the cnc equipment. This guy simply downloads the program and sets up the machine with the proper tools then sits and plays Call of Duty all day while it runs. Just think of all the old cars from the ‘50s that had all the cool lines on em. A real machinist had to make the forming dies for those car fenders and hoods on a manual machine. Now those guys were real machinist.
@ecogames7165
8 ай бұрын
@@martinswiney2192 "A real machinist had to make the forming dies for those car fenders and hoods on a manual machine." 😂If you worked like that today, you wouldn't earn any money. The technology is outdated, which invalidates your statement... :P. And the CNC-Operator/Machnist not only download the finished programm. You receive the finished CAD model from the customer. You then have to generate your milling strategies in the CAM system. This requires a lot of knowledge...
I would like to join with you sir plz
нихуя не понятно,но очень интересно!
Пуансон для рычага подвески?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Я бы сказал, но я не могу
@Karabas44
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar вообщем это элемент пресс формы?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
@@Karabas44 Да
Is it possible for even the most skilled operator to do that manually?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
Everything is possible.
@johncochran8497
Жыл бұрын
It's all a question of how long it will take. A manual operator can obviously get the cutting head to each point the CNC machine moves it. But it will take a lot longer. And cost a lot more.
e16.... We still use the e11 version...^^
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
very old
Can you make video about cutters, Endmill and ballnose parameters like rpm, depth of cut and feed. It will be very useful for me and many persons.
@Larsxs.
Жыл бұрын
Try Google....
Another swingarm? ? Ducati?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
I can't talk about that🤐
what name ur side clamp ? thank
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
upinace.cz
@newbiezxx
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar how to buy that ?
What machine you have?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
UDM 2216 UCHINE
how come no chip conveyor?
@CncFrezar
Жыл бұрын
He has why he shouldn't
@meocats
Жыл бұрын
@@CncFrezar why not?
Why do you not take a bigger Highfeedcutter for the Roughing Process?This big Machine should easy take a 120mm Cutter.I can be Hours faster.
@CncFrezar
10 ай бұрын
The spindle is too weak for that.
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