Challenger Mid explains WAVE MANAGEMENT

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  • @jmatae
    @jmatae Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for helping with it, I always struggle to make decisions about my wave

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Np, my pleasure

  • @Relaera
    @Relaera Жыл бұрын

    As a support main, not only am I elo-inflated, but I will also promptly ignore all of this information and spam autos on the minion wave because I'm "helping" my ADC

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    As you should, carry on.

  • @danielhughes3758

    @danielhughes3758

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Zianni 😅😂

  • @HeroForSure

    @HeroForSure

    Жыл бұрын

    Bless up fam

  • @jamiemaddox-fisher7021
    @jamiemaddox-fisher7021 Жыл бұрын

    I love these educational videos, especially with how collected and directly you talk about stuff

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy them! Thanks for watching

  • @colsiqt5804
    @colsiqt5804 Жыл бұрын

    one of your best vids hands down. I feel like a lot of low elo players (including me) underestimate wave management when it can literally make or break a game. this is def a vid I'll be watching more than once! ty again for the amazing content.

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching:3

  • @nahuelperez7314
    @nahuelperez7314 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent guide, I loved it. I've been watching wave management guides but this one is definitely the most complete and easiest to understand. Thank you so much for your effort! Looking forward for your next video ☺️

  • @liamg9334
    @liamg9334 Жыл бұрын

    This is easily the best guide on wave management on youtube. Clear. Concise. No random plugs and bs. I'm a relatively new player and this is going to help so much. Earned sub Ty

  • @garrettdakin2703
    @garrettdakin2703 Жыл бұрын

    Yo~~!! Thanks Zianni! I am super happy to see this video! It's something I have been interested in learning for a long time! I am going to put this into practice in my own games. Thanks again man, amazing content!

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching :3 Hope you see the benefits

  • @cat-dk3ql
    @cat-dk3ql Жыл бұрын

    i’ve needed a video like this for forever!!! all the other wave management guides seem way too broad and vague, and i never got much out of them. but this is great

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @heyaaa3506
    @heyaaa3506 Жыл бұрын

    Very clear and informative!

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @mooonieliqht
    @mooonieliqht Жыл бұрын

    OMG THIS IS LEGIT WHAT I NEEDED ONG THANK YOU KING ZIANNI !!!

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Meow

  • @mooonieliqht

    @mooonieliqht

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Zianni oMG A KITTY CAT!! *pat pat*

  • @minttruffles5525
    @minttruffles552510 ай бұрын

    Incredible content! Absolutely love this.

  • @Phasuo
    @Phasuo6 ай бұрын

    This was really helpful bro. Definitely really useful information in here

  • @drizldraws8036
    @drizldraws8036 Жыл бұрын

    This was very helpful, especially as a supp main who usually does not have to directly manage the wave. I will practice a few games mid or top to make sure I have the basics down! Thank you!

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @loudwhispre9406
    @loudwhispre9406 Жыл бұрын

    I've been trying to learn how to do this exact thing for a while (I never gave it much thought as a Viktor player, I just shove and roam or shove and hide under tower), so this video came at the perfect time.

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope it helps and you get value out of this :3

  • @t_Gecko
    @t_Gecko Жыл бұрын

    Really nice content and also a fitting voice for content creating! Keep it up i think you'll be huge soon!

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, will do!

  • @alesiswhite9010
    @alesiswhite9010 Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I needed let’s go

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Meow :3

  • @natdaone5075
    @natdaone5075 Жыл бұрын

    This is the kind of video I need. Thx king 👑

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Love you

  • @cro4891
    @cro4891 Жыл бұрын

    I love you for this man thanks for the video

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    I love u more

  • @spinningforever119
    @spinningforever119 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a d1 player but I felt like my problem mostly was with wave management now the good things is that I knew almost everything in this video but there were some things that I took notice to once you mentioned them so the video was great :D

  • @alainey
    @alainey Жыл бұрын

    Just hit m7 on Syndra due to your help. Now time to perfect my combos/matchup knowledge and work on my macro! Thanks Zianni

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on M7!! Looking forward to your continued success

  • @DadlyGamerTV
    @DadlyGamerTV Жыл бұрын

    Perfection! Would be dope to see a follow up video of you sharing scenarios and asking the viewer what is the best thing to do in this scenario. Then explain you your explain ur answer.

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Great suggestion!

  • @denerbertoloto319
    @denerbertoloto319 Жыл бұрын

    Tremendously well done video! Thank you. Not much content on KZread can compete with yours right now, really. The problem I have on Gold elo is that I don't know if I can actually trust this information about the jungle path... Just saw on your stream a jarvan taking your flash because you thought you were safe, but he just did a really bad pathing and ganked you... Happens a lot to me xD

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words. It's better to play correctly following on the proper process than just playing wrong on purpose, no harm in dying if you're making objectively the right plays. Adapting or being flexible based off information is important tho

  • @annafernandez6674
    @annafernandez6674 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another excellent video big bear.

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank u

  • @isaacchristianrobinson8629
    @isaacchristianrobinson8629 Жыл бұрын

    I actually was needing to learn wave manipulation. Good shit 💜 (retro)

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe in you

  • @Cc8R8
    @Cc8R8 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks my guy! 👍

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Np thanks for watching

  • @freshness2569
    @freshness2569 Жыл бұрын

    skill cap who? this is better then their explanations I see all the time in their vids!!! good job. A series would be great of tips like this. idk maybe have a poll and see what the fans want?

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Working on it! Thanks for the compliments

  • @Mauler-bd4hg
    @Mauler-bd4hg Жыл бұрын

    Extremely helpful!

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    No u

  • @kroneexe
    @kroneexe6 ай бұрын

    Still don't get it. I think I'm too stupid for wave management. After 10 years I still haven't learned even the basics of this.

  • @Voroeg
    @Voroeg Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @marinoszarkadis5660
    @marinoszarkadis5660 Жыл бұрын

    Video helped me a lot understanding the fundamentals of waves but I’m not sure if my jungler will have the same opinion about this, playing in silver division since I’m new to this game !!

  • @mtn323007
    @mtn323007 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Zianni!

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @danielhughes3758
    @danielhughes3758 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely guilty of pushing for no reason. This gives a more solid template for wave related decision making

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    We all are :(

  • @IzarHarrison-Riddle
    @IzarHarrison-Riddle Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @michaelbecker8067
    @michaelbecker8067 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Zianni, nice video. Can you tell me what music usually is playing in your (vod) videos? It sounds like it's from a game, I find it very relaxing.

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    My VODs on stream are audiospliced so there should be no music. KZread videos is old-school runescape music

  • @goalking7778
    @goalking7778 Жыл бұрын

    Thankyou very much for the educational vid. Best midlane youtuber 100%

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to help, appreciate you

  • @Hoyochii
    @Hoyochii Жыл бұрын

    Been thinking of transitioning back to mid from adc because games are just so out of my favor even when im ahead and win lane so this management guide is really useful

  • @kixgdavid2077
    @kixgdavid2077 Жыл бұрын

    great vid z ily

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Love u too

  • @Grimborger
    @Grimborger Жыл бұрын

    That's fascinating, I'm a jungle main so I don't normally watch lane states at that level of intricacy. I expect this could help my ganks in a similar vein.

  • @robert1538
    @robert1538 Жыл бұрын

    The rule of thumb using the lines just before 8:50 representing the incoming wave's impact was great.

  • @mavelleloire
    @mavelleloire Жыл бұрын

    I've found wave management to be more comfortable for me in mid than when trying to adc. I play support a lot as well and it's hard to coordinate wave management with my adc. Tho they are very thankful when I pull the wave so they don't lose cs! Also: your content is amazing and your streams are very soothing when coming from work or studying, it really helps with anxiety. Thank you for your great content!

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    ADC has a lot more uncontrollable (Support) variables for sure but its also one of the easiest ways to grow as a player by being thoughtful. Thanks for the kind words as well, I appreciate that you watch my content

  • @123GUI12
    @123GUI12 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks perfect

  • @omarhossam9200
    @omarhossam9200 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info Zianni, I have a question though, what you should do with your wave if you are playing Orianna for example into an assassin matchup like Akali. As you kinda want to have prio to prevent them from roaming and killing your side laners, but this can kill because of ganks or assassins All-ins, and if you freezed the wave they may roam and kill your side laners and snowball out of control. So both options have pros and cons but which option should I invest my time in generally on assassin mathups as Orianna

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the crutch of the problem, good job. It then becomes jungle reliant or you just focus on wave clearing to apply pressure. As long as you're warding for your teammates you can also push or hold to make them lose CS. Lower elos don't understand roam timers so they roam while losing minions so you're pretty much forced to put pressure since the enemy mid doesn't care they're 50 cs lol

  • @omarhossam9200

    @omarhossam9200

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Zianni Ok Zianni thanks a lot for the advice

  • @bigcoolboy96
    @bigcoolboy96 Жыл бұрын

    2 questions; 1. Does the hp of the creeps factor into push? 2. Is better to kill the enemy melees or casters first to slow push?

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    1) Yes but you can just simplify it by ignoring it since minion AI will sometimes fuck the math anyways if they target differently 2) Kill casters first

  • @fra4521
    @fra4521 Жыл бұрын

    Hi. Today I just watched ur video about improving in League. Could u say that wave management is the most important skill to learn in League? I'm thinking about starting mastering it, as first step towards master :)

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    The fundamentals of laning (Farming + trading) are the basic requirement for wave management to be relevant. If you hold a wave and do nothing with it, why does it matter if you held the wave.

  • @fra4521

    @fra4521

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Zianni great answer. Ty!

  • @SkarM_x
    @SkarM_x Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Love the educational content. I don't get to play much. Usually one game a day but I love when I let the enemy mid push me in then they realize they fucked themselves. Lol

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Its the ultimate reversal

  • @aryiongaming6487
    @aryiongaming6487 Жыл бұрын

    I just play lux and insta clear every mid wave, am I doing it right?

  • @wingsofnight4317
    @wingsofnight4317 Жыл бұрын

    Good video xD

  • @lims-karen3127
    @lims-karen3127 Жыл бұрын

    *making notes like a madwoman*

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    pop off queen

  • @Nico_Santoro
    @Nico_Santoro Жыл бұрын

    Hi Zianni, from the next giuide can you put the Time Stamp at video so is easy to find and rewatch what we missundestend? Thanks a lot

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds good, I'll do that for this one as well

  • @Nico_Santoro

    @Nico_Santoro

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Zianni thanks a lot man you got a new fan from Italy on YT AND TWITCH NO CAP!

  • @mandasmovingcastle
    @mandasmovingcastle Жыл бұрын

    brb linking this vid to all my teammates

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    ty

  • @boyoboyo548
    @boyoboyo548 Жыл бұрын

    BIG

  • @iminalotofpain8862
    @iminalotofpain8862 Жыл бұрын

    Malzahar and his kit auto pushes for him after level 2 how do I manage that efficiently?

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Push wave and walk away until it resets lol, if you're not there after it pushes it doesn't matter XD All you do on Malz is wait for gank then flash ult. Malz is not very good for learning the game, just very niche playstyle.

  • @henriquesousa9683
    @henriquesousa9683 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine I give prio to talon into anivia - amumu vs talon - heca , the first thing I see is that talon instantly invades my jungle with hecarim but in other hand my jungle can't invade and is better ganking so I guess I preffer to freeze it. If I push the lane probably I'm gonna get ganked by hecarim and probably he will use ghost and make me waste a flash and recall. So if u freeze ur jungle is the target , but if u don't freeze ur the target. What I noticed is that if I push as anivia into talon and my amumu is near of me, if heca ganks and amumu counter ganks I almost always win because I got more minions and I poked talon earlier so I got more hp but in other hand if amumu doesn't react to it or if some support moves towards mid they kinda decide who wins... So for me is too relative to know what to do because I almost never see a win-win condition, it always relies in what the other players will do. So I don't find the good decision. Every decision seems to have problems ... Another stuff that I notice is that if the wave is pushing for me it's true that he can move quickly but in other hand if the fight doesn't take too much time and I move too to evade the invade sometimes they lose more minions moving because the wave didn't crash and it was slow pushing into me. But I don't really find a way to play around it because although I see it my team doesn't or doesn't care and I can't just say stop now to fight if we stop now we win adv because I win in minion adv now . I see the same kind of stuff like nidalee invading while I'm under tower and I move and I lose minions and she keeps invading my jungle and after the wave dies under my tower nidalee just leaves... Although I liked ur content I don't find it so linear as u say it I would like to watch some videos more directed to master -gm players that find themselves hardstucked and want to understand their mistakes .

  • @huntercollins5775
    @huntercollins5775 Жыл бұрын

    Deadass you’ve made me better at mid lane just with these videos. Been ruining peoples day on ori

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    I LOVE TO HEAR IT, ORI GANG GANG

  • @Cube__TV
    @Cube__TV10 ай бұрын

    one thing to add: single target spells and AAs draw Minion aggro. when the enemy minions are attacking you they are not dpsing the ally wave. this naturally pushes the lane and could break your freeze if you don't pay attention.

  • @yan7821
    @yan7821 Жыл бұрын

    You so cute when youre so educational with your mad eyebrows^^

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    Meow?

  • @DadlyGamerTV
    @DadlyGamerTV Жыл бұрын

    Also i love you.

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

    love u more

  • @AraAra.Mp3
    @AraAra.Mp3 Жыл бұрын

  • @Zianni

    @Zianni

    Жыл бұрын

  • @GCamPOV
    @GCamPOV6 ай бұрын

    I can tell you understand this. But you can't explain it. You repeat the same and define terms by using the same term😅

  • @darkheart8040
    @darkheart8040 Жыл бұрын

    U sure about challenger??

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