Challenger Coach Explains Jungle Fundamentals & Thought Process During This Review

Hey all, today's video I'm reviewing one of my own games, breaking down the fundamentals and my thought process during the game. Enjoy!
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0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Prologue
0:38 - Review Starts

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  • @leninpm07
    @leninpm074 ай бұрын

    so much knowladge man thanks for your videos im improving a lot w them

  • @Bighomer5
    @Bighomer54 ай бұрын

    Hey man you're killing it lately! I really enjoy these kind of videos, and I think that the production value is good. I prefer authentic reviews like this to pre-planned videos that try to shoehorn some concepts into a 15 minutes review session.

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you bro 🙏

  • @Vivid_809
    @Vivid_8094 ай бұрын

    That uptime and downtime info was actually great lol. That’s something i still haven’t grasped

  • @alexnurminen6601
    @alexnurminen66014 ай бұрын

    I like this format a lot. On recorded coaching sessions the screen is a bit blurry, voices not good quality and everything seems messy. I should be writing my bachelor thesis atm but here I am studying jungle and writing physical notes :D

  • @super135ful
    @super135ful4 ай бұрын

    great video, learned a lot

  • @Frankiesssss
    @Frankiesssss4 ай бұрын

    Such a great video. Smooth game by you. Makes me sad though as a Bel'Veth player that you don't want me to take rift. 🙂 I get it though. Good point about syncing up with the team. I feel like that's something I really need to work on. Thanks!

  • @alexandrunicolae1054

    @alexandrunicolae1054

    4 ай бұрын

    herald is just so bad to solo this season, almost nobody understand that you need someone to tank the herald so you can do damage to him (you deal 50% damage to herald if it has hit you in the last 5 sec) and this thing alone makes herald in soloq worthless imo

  • @dog-me9br
    @dog-me9br4 ай бұрын

    Very good video , good job! Only thing I can note is at 12:30 you should've recalled. (By recalling , you can match viego on dragon, or if your team ints and doesnt recall you can go make something topside to trade off)

  • @Bighomer5

    @Bighomer5

    4 ай бұрын

    That's bad tempo. He stays and gets the Smolder flash plus hovers with the support while his adc is getting solo platings. Then he resets and makes it to gromp on respawn, which he then transitions into a top side counter jungle into the def on his own bot side. It doesn't get much more perfect than that. What you do is overprioritize early drake. If he reset on 12:30 he'd make it to drake as his bot lane bases and then either has to flip the drake solo and possibly die or lose his top camps or settle for krugs and scuttle crab (?) before pathing top which would go against the goal here (i.e. playing for bot lane and the drake).

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    4 ай бұрын

    Good discussion 👍

  • @dog-me9br

    @dog-me9br

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Bighomer5 You have lissandra and viego coming out of base with full hp and mana plus they spent their gold. Orianna is low hp , belveth and varus are half xp and pyke is full , plus none of those spent the earned gold advantage. Enemy team is all full xp except thresh who is half hp. 12:17 liss respawns. 12:37 liss can be in the fight. 12:32 viego respawns. 12:52 viego can be in the fight. And 12:52 is exactly where belveth decides to go at smolder. So why risk giving away shutdown? If you recall 12:30 (with two lanes at wavecrash), at 13:03 you will be at river , and your laners will be at lanes (if they recall with you) , you can either gank if they decide to concede wave , invade enemy jungler if they decide to push through , or even do that plus drake. In that particular case viego can go like "well we cant win this fight we're too behind and go take your three topside camps" , but that's worth it imo , because you take his three plus drake , he takes three camps and nothing else. And since they concede botside , and you're healthy as a result of that , you can move topside instantly after drake to invade him at raptors/red/krugs. OR dive enemy botlane if they missplay and end up low :D (the usual soloQ situation of dancing around drake spectating how the enemy does it while flaming your team) Why overstay with unhealthy team so much? if they wanna int (by not recalling) then at least you can reset tempo and go topside. Knowing 4 enemies are around drake , you can deep ward his topside , then do whatever. In that particular case , there happened to be a third hp wukong with no flash nor ultimate trying to push one more wave to crash. Either you get a kill and freeze , or just freeze if he predicts your play.

  • @dog-me9br

    @dog-me9br

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JungleGapGG join the discussion too :D

  • @skimmynz
    @skimmynz4 ай бұрын

    I see Babip, I press like 👍

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    4 ай бұрын

    🙏🐐

  • @TRANSCENDINGOD
    @TRANSCENDINGOD4 ай бұрын

    great video

  • @hugodouradodemeira260
    @hugodouradodemeira2604 ай бұрын

    I was away of league for 3 years and now Im back trying to get better for a municipal championship. Your videos are wonderfuls. Its helping me alot. Im at moment at masters low with 60% wr and looking for climb more. Your videos are so good 🥹

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    4 ай бұрын

    Means a lot, TY 🙏

  • @Krafnaa
    @Krafnaa4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for uploading this, amazing review. I am curious if you could help me understand couple of things: 1. At 3:30 when you invaded, what would've been the best play for Viego? Give up bot side and do his top side? Start doing gromp near the bot lane bush? I started playing Kha'Zix recently and I can see this potentially happening to me vs champs like Nidalee, Kindred, Graves or Bel so want to know what's the best thing to do in that case. 2. In general, are these the things you look for when deciding if a gank is good or not (when people talk about how high is a % of gank working out): Enemy HP, their summs, wards, does your laner have a setup, wave state, enemy jungle/mid roam. Is there anything else that can determine if a gank is good or not? 3. At 11:57 should Viego already start running away since he's not 6 and can't kill Ori? Should he have ran to his tower instead of running to his jungle like he did?

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey there! at 3:30 the best play for viego is to drop a ward in the river bush around 1:10, with that he has time to either start bluer with a leash and then skip gromp and do wolves, this way making the pathing for myself very inefficient as now im taking gromp with no camp close to me for lvl 3. The second option is to ward and start red and then raptors, once you see me running in depending if you can finish raptors is to actually run straight towards me and kill me once I start the blue. 2. Honestly you dont want to overwhelm yourself with too much information but im sure there are more factors you could consider, body language, a laner about to level up to 6 so they may all in/use their ult to be aggressive. 3. For sure I think he lives if he runs to tower 👍

  • @timhafensteiner3399
    @timhafensteiner33994 ай бұрын

    Hey Man, only recently discovered your channel. What are your opinions on learning jungle as an offrole? I’m a Master Tier ADC on EUW and I got an account to D4 fairly quickly by jungling. However, I still feel like my jungle understanding is lacking. Do you think it would be worth it to try and push the jungle account further to increase my overall game knowledge? I feel like it could help me break into the 300LP range cause I often struggle with jgl tracking after the 5th minute.

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    4 ай бұрын

    I think having jungle as offrole is a great way to increase game knowledge. Do what you enjoy, if you feel a bit tilted on your main, use your jg account as a way to take a break to prevent tilt queuing 👍

  • @salem9862
    @salem98624 ай бұрын

    I rarelly comment videos; but this one was beautiful; I would really appreciate more of this format; Also... do you have any mechanical insights? I can understand / follow your decision making process... but when it's my time to play, I struggle with basic stuff such as ... looking at the minimap; How can I improve my map awareness?

  • @leviathon240

    @leviathon240

    4 ай бұрын

    Just play more and focus on improving that aspect of your game

  • @alexnurminen6601

    @alexnurminen6601

    4 ай бұрын

    Step 1: make ur minimap bigger size from the settings. Step 2: watch the minimap when u play.

  • @Bighomer5

    @Bighomer5

    4 ай бұрын

    Looking at the mini map isn't exactly a mechanic...there are some tricks like running a metronome or something in the background to force yourself to look at the map every x seconds. But since that'll drive you crazy, just note down beforehand which aspect of the game you want to improve and how, and then e.g. force yourself to look at the map after every camp that you clear. You can also just click on the map to go to your next camp and look at it at the same time, and press tab or f keys while you walk....jungle is really the simplest role in that regard. In lane you can do the same, e.g. after every wave or last hit or move back input.

  • @salem9862

    @salem9862

    4 ай бұрын

    As someone who suffers from ADHD and visual dyslexia, I find your hint to be the only one helpful; I really enjoy the organized and strategic lol that I watch from pro/high elo players... but my games are a bronze/silver coinflippy clown fiesta (and I know it's my fault; I simply do not collect the same amount of information as I play); @@Bighomer5

  • @salem9862

    @salem9862

    4 ай бұрын

    As someone who suffers from ADHD and visual dyslexia, I really struggle with keeping focused on those tasks; As I begin my game I try to frequently look, but soon enough I forget and just go back to low elo coinflippy clown fiesta. Clicking at the minimap to move is a great hint;@@Bighomer5

  • @kanedebelak5325
    @kanedebelak53254 ай бұрын

    If you do have a volatile lane such as bot and you see them as a win con. You gank once or twice and they miss all of their abilities and don't attempt to follow up, would you have your game plan and move your win con?

  • @harribertschmalzkopf2799

    @harribertschmalzkopf2799

    4 ай бұрын

    Try shadowing the person on your team that plays best, especially after minute 14. People that int early usually keep inting later. Never gank a losing lane, unless it is really free.

  • @darkwolfyy6798
    @darkwolfyy67983 ай бұрын

    Around 15:20, wouldn't the "correct" play be: I see Viego on grubs so I should counter him on bot-side. Back to front would be invade, Dragon, my bot camps. You finished raptors, which is fine, but then went to Krugs, dragon then invade. Of course this worked out great and you even got a kill on Smolder, but why did you finish your bot-side camps while you knew he was topside? He extended his turn by ganking around 16:30 but if he had reset to his bot, you may not have been able to invade or possibly even take dragon. Just some thoughts I had. I'm hovering between E1 and D4 and main Bel'Veth

  • @mastermiind927
    @mastermiind9274 ай бұрын

    This video help to climb 2 ranks to g1 feel like I’m gonna hit plat off of this

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    4 ай бұрын

    You will 💪

  • @Caliban743
    @Caliban7434 ай бұрын

    I love herald to open mid

  • @LEKIDOMAN
    @LEKIDOMAN4 ай бұрын

    Ill first preface this with the fact that im just a plat player. But i dont exactly agree with your take on herald. It's such a powerful objective with so much potential gold gain. In the worst case scenario it can be a decent distraction to set up a teamfight or a drake, but if you use it for its intended purpose of sieging enemy towers it can generate so much free gold with little effort sometimes in this game herald just casually last hit tier 2 tower for that sweet 650 gold and that's not necessarily even the most optimal way of using this objective. The best part is that if you take herald you get to choose when and how to use it, on top of getting flat 200 gold (if u solo it, less if u share gold with team).

  • @Bighomer5

    @Bighomer5

    4 ай бұрын

    It's not exactly free since it takes like a minute to take, which slows down your cspm and opens you up for counter jungling, and is a collosal waste of tempo if you actually get contested and have to back off. Then it's a lot of gold income only if you actually manage to crack a T2 tower, which often times you won't since you still need to find the right opportunity and you spent so much time taking the Herald that you'll want to catch up on cs and tempo. Personally I rarely find a good moment to take Herald and when I do take it it's either in games that are already won or if not then it's maybe 1 in 3 Heralds that actually open up the map and generate gold for me. Usually I only go for it when my top laner is winning and wants to take it, and I don't make plans around it, unlike Drake and Grubs.

  • @LEKIDOMAN

    @LEKIDOMAN

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Bighomer5let me offer you a counter argument. If you don't take herald enemy team can. And at that point u'll have to pray none of ur laners int their lanes or herald gets dropped and that can insta bounce the game if done well. I don't always rush herald myself but unless im super far behind i'll always contest it to atleast deny the enemy taking it, lest my 4 botlane ganks get undone by a single one plus herald.

  • @Bighomer5

    @Bighomer5

    4 ай бұрын

    @@LEKIDOMAN That's a goodpoint, but at that point when you're ahead I think you just want to get vision on it and fight them off if they start it, which is a favourable fight, rather than focus on the Herald and risk getting collapsed on by 4 enemies. So don't ignore Rift entirely, obviously, but prioritize top camps and vision to deny it completely. And if you don't take it by 19:50 then it's gone for both teams.

  • @GenjaOrigins
    @GenjaOriginsАй бұрын

    why dive is more important than camps and drake, i though drake > dive>camps is it becasue i play ww and he is so strong and great sustain that it is easy for me to risk it but for you not?

  • @candyi._.
    @candyi._.Ай бұрын

    Amazing! This gameplay wasn't that crazy and a lot of knowledge to digest as a mediocre player

  • @zacharywolfgangbecker2386
    @zacharywolfgangbecker23864 ай бұрын

    Not taking rift as BelVeth? I thought this was blasphemy! Great info though, keep it up

  • @Romano_Nanninga11
    @Romano_Nanninga113 ай бұрын

    Now show us a game where your top and bot dies 2 times before you finish your first rotation. And then they proceed to die 6 more times within 10 minutes.

  • @ja_pkobankpolski8175
    @ja_pkobankpolski81754 ай бұрын

    Opgg?

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    4 ай бұрын

    Posted in achievements about 2 weeks ago in the Jungle Gap Discord 👍

  • @miistsroxxorl7217
    @miistsroxxorl72174 ай бұрын

    I advice you to prepare the videos beforehand, so you give them a smoother rythme where you don't pause every now and then. It gives them more watch time(better for algo and all of that)

  • @JungleGapGG

    @JungleGapGG

    4 ай бұрын

    I've had mixed opinions on this, some like the more natural flowing video and some more concise and shorter. I definitely did prepare this video but thanks for the feedback regardless 👍

  • @lazarorodriguez7186
    @lazarorodriguez71864 ай бұрын

    Can’t pass emerald :(

  • @soul2310
    @soul23102 ай бұрын

    yeah, and now do a live game commentary where your team doesnt know what to do and instantly reacting like this pyke. half of that stuff doesnt work in dia and below. also going over a VOD on a won game where you can say whatever you want and justify your actions is kinda hypocritical. yeah, you might be an ex pro and what not. but i could cherry pick from my games where i absolutely stomped 1v9, like everyone could. didint pyke carry all these plays where he was there at the right time and you couldnt profit of, youd just fall back into your jungle getting a complete different outcome. you didnt had one or even two inting lanes, dying 1v1. you did have competent players that rotated. maybe try to see it from a perspective von the other 90% of players and not masters and above...