Great video thanks for sharing.

@alanmortimer6743

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100% will be getting one in 5 weeks to replace my BMW R1250RS that was super. But the CfMoto MT will still exceed the speed limits for £9500 less!

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

@@alanmortimer6743 wow, that's a huge difference in price, I had to Google the R1250RS as I'm not too familiar with the BMW range, if you like that sport/tourer style, have a test ride on the CFMOTO 650GT, it's £400 more expensive than the 650MT but still the same engine and touring/sport ride set up

@alanmortimer6743

2 жыл бұрын

Ihad to put higher bars plus risers on both RS to get it comfortable. But they go like stink all day and the handling is superb but the price means a change of tack at my 80+ age.

@luiscarlosarias2126

3 ай бұрын

I like the 700

Great video mate. Just got myself a cfmoto 650mt here in Australia. Loving it so far

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude, I'm glad to hear that people are liking their CFMOTO's 👍

Great video. Exactly what i was looking for in a review on this bike

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment, I got a "longish" ride coming up, so I might add some content on the long term ownership, but still a bloody nice/reliable bike to ride and own

@Ian-ny6ux

Жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 Please post more when able. A lot of us are definitely curious about this adv.

Lol. Motörhead sticker on your windscreen, absolutely loves it! Saw Lemmy on his last tour in 2015 3 months before he passed. Keep rockin it brother

Logical and sound review. Love the Lemmy sticker!

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude, much appreciated 🙏

Great review

Great. I am going to test drive one tomorrow. I think I might just take it. Thanks

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent, I had mine for a year, so far so good and I haven't heard any horror stories from CFMOTO's motorcycles

@raldotromp

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 Guess what... I traded my R1 in and got it. I hope to get it by Saturday. Thanks for the info.

So the wife said 'Buy a new bike - one that you really want' - wow. OK, you twisted my arm. However a Tenere is over $16k here in New Zealand, and the 650MT out the door at $8.5k. I thought that I had 'settled' on a lesser bike, but bang-for-buck, I couldn't be happier. Great video - get a windsock for your mike - and thank you very much.

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, I'm doing a "on the road" review this weekend, as I finally got a decent mic "with a windsock" 😂. $16k to $8.5k is a big difference, at the moment they're very underrated bikes, no doubt as they became more mainstream the price will go up, 👍

Nice!

I was at Route 11 today and I really like the look of the MT. Unfortunately they haven’t got one available to test ride. I rode the 650GT instead which was good but not what I’m after. If they can get a demo bike, I probably will end up getting one. Thanks for the review.

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

I must've missed you otherwise you could've taken my MT for a spin, I took the GT for a spin as well yesterday and the power delivery is pretty much the same as the MT, but the seat is a lot more comfier on the MT as I rode to Yorkshire last Saturday, 158miles without stopping, I couldn't have done that on the GT. Like I said in the video, I took my MT into work pretty much every day last year, I got her in mid May, from +20°c to -4°c she just kept up with the punishment, started on the button every morning so reliability wise, she's spot on 👌

@skippy3107

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 it’s a shame I missed you yesterday, I would have liked to have a chat about your MT. I found the GT to be a bit buzzy. At 30mph in 3rd or 4th gear it was very buzzy through the handlebars. Have you found this with the MT?

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

@@skippy3107 not at all, in fact, that was a huge relief when I got back on my MT after the GT, my wrists were hurting, most of your weight on the MT is in the upper body/legs, on the GT it's mostly upper body/arms, if it's not raining this Saturday I'll probably pop in for breakfast, or just MSG on messenger, if you look on route 11 members, Damon Hendrix, I'm sure I'm on there

I just did a testride at a dealer over here in Netherlands and they gave me an awesome offer for my old bike so I bought this one new. Will get it in a couple of weeks. Hope it will serve me as well as it does you.

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

Good choice, just keep on top of cleaning the front bottom end of the engine, exhausts, horn etc,,, as all the crap off the road sprays straight into them, acf 50 or gt85 should do the trick to protect it. Unfortunately I'm a lazy git so the horn is a bit rusty on mine 🤦

@10vingers

Жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 Ok. Thanks, I will.

@matostrainspotting

Ай бұрын

How it has been?

@10vingers

Ай бұрын

@@matostrainspotting Excellent. Still enjoying it.

@bradaaaJT

Ай бұрын

​@@10vingers Where did you buy it? I'm thinking of buying new as well, as a first bike. (In the Netherlands as well)

Отличный мотоцикл 🏍 👍 пожалуй возьму себе такой же

Apart from the bloke talking😉 it's a brilliant review well done !!!!!!

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

😂, why thank you 🤙

С новым годом! 🎉🥂🌲

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

Happy new year to you too sir 🎉

Those fish and chips at sunny hunny bike park used to be spot on!

I have seen your bike at Two Wheel Tuesday ....a few times ...I did try one out and ..couldn't fault it ...lovely bikes and a bargain 😀

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting, I still can't fault mine, nearly 7k miles and still going strong

Do you have a link for the crash guards? Any info on some would be much appreciated!

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

My bike came with them, as far as I know in the UK for 2023, they're being sold without crashbars, there's a few on AliExpress but they're not the same as mine

Honest opinion greatly appreciated! I’m being biased because I have one for the same reason as it’s cheap & an absolutely great bike for the price. I can’t afford to spend big on a motorcycle that sits around & costs shedloads to service when I can do it myself. I didn’t get the crash bars fitted because they’re too out there. I’ll be following your adventures & future videos on your ride.✅ Ride safe since it’s winter time in the UK. You’re a big bloke…are you comfortable on the 650MT? What other accessories do you plan to get fitted yourself?🏍

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, just before xmaz I done a 260mile local ride, with the longest stretch of 80miles in one sitting, all I done was stand on the footpegs to stretch the body once and rested my feet on the crash bars, and ready for another 80miles, really comfortable. For the accessories, I'm gonna put a fuel box and I'll be putting some spot lights which I'll show what they look like on my next video, which I should be making it tomorrow 🤞, and I got a long(ish) trip coming up, so that'll be filmed

@stevesanelli90

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 look forward to it! Cheers👌

About to give the 650 adventura a go. Wanna commute with it and do a little moto camping.

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

Go for it, I know in that video I had the top box shad sh40, I've upgraded to the sh48, it's more spacious and with the top rack, would make it perfect for a camping trip

Nicely done mate, glad you didn't put Kawasaki's down 😄

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

I was a bit worried that I was kicking down Kawasaki, I'm glad I added the extra bit in my shed

I have a kawasaki versys 650 and love it. It's a 2008 model. Only paid 3,800

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

A bike's a bike, no matter what you ride, although 🤔, if you ever want to downgrade for easy riding,,, give the honda cb500x a go, those things are unbelievably underrated

HI Damon! Do you still own the bike? What about the engine heat? I can see from other videos the cooling fan is very noisy and it starts quite often. Do you feel any discomfort by the engine heat? D Is the chain quality so poor and it needs adjustments every 500 km (as another owner states). And the 1 mil$ question: Would you buy it again? Thanks! Good luck!

@iceniscrambler344

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your questions, my kind of questions,,, so, I still own her and apart from a seized up engine, faultless. The heat 🤔 the fan does kick in slow riding towns/cities however we had the warmest day in the UK in 22 at 40°c and I didn't feel the heat from the engine as much as other people say, maybe coz I'm welder by trade. The standard chain is crap, I had to change it and I put a smaller sprocket in the rear wheel, 70mph at 4.5k revs 👌. Would I buy it again?? The other one I'd buy is the honda cb500x which in my personal opinion is the most underrated bike in the world,,, but for what you get with the CFMOTO, I'd still buy the MT, maybe the new MT700 but definitely a CFMOTO

I’ve been looking at this bike for a while now as well. I commute and tour whenever I can, do about 12 to 16k miles a year. So not interested in resale value, but I am worried about the quality of fasteners, bearings, seals, shock, rust etc all the stuff you can’t see when you have a bike for only 7 month. The 3K savings must come from somewhere. Then what about sourcing parts? So Im going to wait a little I think. Im currently riding a 2017 Honda CB500x which has 60k miles on the clock. My swing arm bearings are going now, so is the rear shock. The head steering bearing.l need replacing. I had the water pump replaced at 56K. I get all the maintenance done as per schedule. I do nothing else but a little cleaning and chain maintenance. The bike has almost no rust. It’s parked outside always under the cover At work it’s parked in the loading bay, nice and dry. It will probably do another 60K miles after all the work is done. I just wonder if a CFmoto would fair as well as the Honda. If it does I’ll snap up a used one in a couple of years time. I love the concept. It has everything you need. Thanks for the Video

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the message, in a short answer is no. The honda cb500x to me is a far better bike, slightly slower than CF but a great bike. When it comes to savings, well they're made in China and the plastic pop rivets are atrocious to get out, also if you don't use the CF for a bit, the disc brakes rust like a Weasley. The parts are simply available if you buy Kawasaki er6 or versys parts, even though the CFMOTO 650 lump is built in China, the parts are still transferable as I found out with my first service, my 2nd service is coming up and I'll be doing a video on it and a 6000mile review, so hopefully that'll help

@MattMiss79

Жыл бұрын

Great. Thanks for the info. I'll be following your CF moto journey

Hi! Have you made any adjustments on rear suspension? On my bike and others it's so soft it's stopping on abs module. I can even see some marks on rear fork right under abs module.

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

I raised the suspension up a bit just so my wife can come on the back, but I set the shock on the softest setting. I am gonna check it tomorrow just to make sure I don't have the same issue 🤞

@feden84

Жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 ok! Let me know.

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

@@feden84 hi Federico, I have checked the swingarm and there's no marks, I will do a video on how to adjust the mono shock in the future, hopefully that'll help you out

@feden84

Жыл бұрын

any news?

Hi, thought you were going to put a link to the top box rack?

@iceniscrambler344

5 ай бұрын

I've just added it, that's the rack I had for a while, however, I wouldn't recommend anything heavier than 4kg as mine started to slag, no cracks on the welds but not far off

@iceniscrambler344

5 ай бұрын

www.cosmo-accessories.com/products/cf-moto/650mt/rear-rack-650mt-cfmoto-473-detail This is the rack I have on it right now, a bit more expensive but a lot sturdier

Hi, did you have any problems with the 650 MT so far? It feels a cheap motorcycle?

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

So far so good, great motorcycle, no issues whatsoever. The switchgear does feel a bit basic compared to the Kawasaki's and Honda CB500X, basic but functional, I always spray WD-40 inside the switchgear and it seems to work well 👍

The difference of £2000 will be all but compensated by the resale value. So, if money are available, I would still buy the Versys 650. There are all kind of accessoires for the Kawis and the the chance of having a dealership closer to you - much greater. Even if I'm 2k short, I would probably buy the Versys and pay of the rest over several months

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

If I was worried about the resale price, I would've invested £6k on something else, someone once told me "if you don't ride your bike to keep the miles down just so you make a bit more when you sell it, it's like not having sexual relations with your partner to keep them fresh for their next partner" I was merely comparing what you can get compared to the same thing/brand, resale value it's an alien concept to me

great video! I can see you use the windshield all the way up where it tends to vibrate. Is it still working ok? Lots of broken ones. Thanks

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

I actually changed the windscreen for a taller one since I made that video, and thicker as well, so far so good, the mounts are stronger than they look, I had 40mph head wind and I was doing over 70mph, and the screen stayed on

@feden84

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 that's good to know. I ve read on Facebook groups people complaining of broken mounts. And after sales service here in Argentina is far from good.

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

@@feden84 I haven't came across weak screen mounts, but I do remember reading about someone who didn't tight the mount enough so they lost the knob with the vibration

@feden84

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 right. I think that was a common issue on the previous version with a different mount.

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

@@feden84 I'll do a little talk about that in my next video, and the difference in my old screen to the new one, it's well worth the extra money, I'll have a search for that issue 👍

After watching this I’m definitely buying this bike!! Would appreciate the links for phone holder and top box mate! 👍🏻

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

No worries, this rack is actually compatible with the Shad SH40 and SH48, which is what I got at the moment, slightly bigger with space for 2 lids. www.tradeinn.com/motardinn/en/shad-top-master-rear-fitting-cf-moto-650-mt/137923286/p?id_producte=12263446&country=uk&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRKsiGYif13gdJMuiddToamLrcC_LbwPO2NC3HnwuKm4RzhP91ZnZyMaAuTHEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07D7TW376?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383830072847?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=YgTqZ6gwRUG&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=_w9UoNWiTBm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

@clintneville9767

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 cheers buddy! What about the phone holder?

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

That's the link in the middle, it's only a cheap holder from Amazon but it does the job

@clintneville9767

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 ok cheers buddy! 👍🏻

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

I just thought of something (I can't believe I didn't think of it before), if you do get a CFMOTO 650MT and if you get a spare key barrel to match the one on the panniers, the Shad SH48 will take the key barrel, where's the Shad SH40 won't, it's only a small key, so heads up on that one

The side stand thing is standard on all bikes. I belive the engine is the previous model kawasaki engine, licenced out

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

As far as I know, all of these bikes come with side stands, about the engine, someone told me that they build these engines from scratch at CFMOTO'S plant in China, using the old Kawasaki er6 blueprint, but if I need to replace parts, I'm buying Kawasaki parts 🤔 makes sense

Is this suitable for short riders (173cm tall)?

@iceniscrambler344

3 ай бұрын

I wouldn't recommend it, I'm 189cm and I can just about have my both feet flat on the ground

Ive just one of these. Can you share the link for the top box base please

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007Z5BPES/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_SDKHMBDXBYP1HXQ6E937?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Do you need a link for the rack as well?

@HaxFilmmaker

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! Does it come with the metal frame base?

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

No, I did buy the rack from these guys, very quick delivery www.motardinn.com/motorcycle-equipment/shad-top-master-rear-fitting-cf-moto-650-mt/137923286/p?id_producte=12263446&country=uk&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2sqOBhCGARIsAPuPK0gySJ-etkFFR9B6VFE1q9PLGWe_fpQZcBj8wpgZpR-G8pOdyJ_CzTcaAkOsEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Nice review! Thinking of getting this as my first bike - BUT, it should have 56 hp and performance similar to Honda NC700X, which is poor (0-100 km/h 7 sec) and far away from Versys performance? There are mixing information on HP and don't know why, but in one video 0-100 km/h was 7.2 seconds, which suggests it indeed have 56 hp or so hp. I understand that as a beginner (old bloke tho), less is more, but also I'm sure after 4 months less is less and more is more. I'm 190 cm /6'2(?) and 110 kg - wonder if the size is ok for me? I'll be driving on highways and on some bike magazine articles they say you need to go down to third gear to overtake at 60 mph or so because the lack of power. Is there any way to increase hp? It's really nice bike and with proper power it would be my first bike. Again, great review, thanks!

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment, 1st: CFMOTO claim 60bhp, and I had a Harley with 80+ bhp and my MT650 pulls better, the 0-60mph or 0-100km to me is irrelevant as no one will ever do that in the real world, from 52mph to 70mph in 4th gear, she doesn't hang about. I actually filmed me overtaking a car that was doing 55mph and all I done was down to 4th and next thing I was doing over the speed limit, but safely away from said car 2nd: I'm roughly your size 6'1/188cm, 100+kg and I had a ride out last January where I did 158.6miles/255.2km without stopping, I found it really comfy and I shall be doing a long(ish) ride video soon as I'm planning a ride out to Stonehenge. 3rd: there is a way to increase bhp by putting an air command box, it just tells the ECU its slightly colder or warmer than it actually is and she'll increase in speed, as the touring/sport mode doesn't really make a difference, she just pops/bangs when coming off throttle on touring mode. As a 1st bike, she'll be more than adequate, I hope this helps 👍

@vectorifix3218

Жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 Thanks for prompt reply and good information! In Finland CFMoto announce 41.5 kW (~ 56hp), but outside Europe they seem to have 70-71 hp of the same bike(!) - could be because of the emission requirements? Those still apply to UK? Wondering if there'd be some remapping or something available. Well as you said I'm sure power is enough for me to learn to ride one - but sure would be nice to have an option later to upgrade to that 70hp. Looking forward for more CFMoto-vids! 👍

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

@@vectorifix3218 to learn how to ride, they're a great bike, I'm not sure what the emissions they have, but here in the UK CFMOTO claim they're 60bhp, it depends on what website you look. I do have a "power jet fuel commander controller" to be fitted, I just haven't got around to it, on the versys it makes a difference, but I haven't fitted on my MT650, that'll be a future video, as I'm in the process of moving home so that's keeping me busy, but the next video will be on 6000mile/10000km review as I just hit that, and basic servicing so hopefully that shouldn't be long before I release that video

👍👍👍🇮🇹

The new one came out. Without panniers and with tft. Price is up

@iceniscrambler344

11 ай бұрын

So I heard, as apparently KTM took over the distribution of CFMOTO in the UK

do you still have the phone holder link? Thnak you!.. i did reserve my cfmoto soon i will enjoy it i guess.

@iceniscrambler344

2 жыл бұрын

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07D7TW376?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share Which cfmoto did you get?

@cherestesjanos

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 mt650 and the price is 6300 9euro in Romania

That's the CFMOTO's immortal 650 engine!

@leodoingthings1706

Жыл бұрын

What other bikes use it, also why its immortal?

Hi! What is the overall mileage on your motorcycle?

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

Just went over 7000miles, apart from oil and filters, I only needed to put a new chain

@_VOLONTER_

Жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 Thank you friend! Good motorcycle 🤝

How is the fuel use per kilometer ?

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

I've just done the math, the best I've ever got was 21.9km/L or 4.55L/100km The worst as in, I rode it in anger 18.4km/L or 5.4L/100km. But I'm 1.89m and 105kg and I always carry some tools (just in case). I'm planning to do a long(ISH) trip where I'll be addressing fuel consumption, I hope this helps

I think most EU motorcycles don't start if side stand is down and in gear safety feature you can disable it if you want tbh

@iceniscrambler344

Ай бұрын

After a while you kind of get used to it, but coming from Harley's of old and old 125's, that used to catch me by surprise

Are you the presenter new to motorbikes? All the bikes have a side-stand safety interlock. My bikes in the 80s did. Also its the norm that the headlight won't turn with the bars.

@iceniscrambler344

10 ай бұрын

My 125 Herald Maverick didn't have it, and it was a 2019 model, and all my bikes I've owned so far, the headlight turned with the handlebars, what can I say, I'm just old fashioned when it comes to bikes

"I'm not a little kid from sweden" 😅

7899.00 canadian dollars. Alberta Canada. I wants One!

Hey Would you still recomand this bike?

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

It depends on your riding ability, if you're a complete novice, then I'd say avoid. If you got a few thousand miles of experience then I couldn't recommend it enough

@HightLink

Жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 It would be my first bike. Learned to ride on a MT07 and CB650R but this looks to be a bit more confortabile.

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

@@HightLink I passed my test on a MT07 and the CFMOTO I find it lot more comfortable, and slightly quicker too, I've had a day with just over 300miles and I could still walk, this year Im aiming for 400miles in a day(with a video). If you get it, just adjust the monoshock to suit your height and maybe some heated grips for colder days

@HightLink

Жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 I am 6.2 (187cm) and I also want to ride with my girl in the back 😄 I love the MT07 but I don't think the passenger will be very happy.

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

@@HightLink that'll serve it's porpoise, the only thing is that you'll need to adjust the monoshock otherwise the bike will bottom out, and again when you're riding solo, otherwise you'll be on tippy toes, plus adjusting the headlight at the same time, it sounds like a pain in arse but it's easier than it sounds

Hi. Its not the same. Suspension is noname. Brakes some China company. During hot days very hot on bike in town. Bad cooling of engine.

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

When I said "same bike" I really meant frame/engine and tyre/wheel size wise. The brakes J.Juan which are as sharp as Donald Trump's tongue, you're right about the suspension, no idea what brand it is, however on cooling, last year on the hottest day in the UK 39°c I was riding her through a town, the fan was almost constantly on, but kept her cool, my legs however, soaked in sweat 🤢

only the 2022+ Versys 650 comes with traction control. to be mentioned that KAWASAKI HAS ZERO WARRANTY on their bikes!

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

I didn't realize that Kawasaki didn't offer any warranty, and now you say it, on the website was showing for the 2022 model, as I filmed that in December 2021, the website was showing the following year model, again, I didn't realize that older models didn't have it either, and cfmoto offer 4 years warranty in all there range now, that's confidence in their product 👍👌

@showmytime9177

Жыл бұрын

@@iceniscrambler344 I have a 2021 Versys 650, that is how I know, only change was the EURO5 engine, the rest is the same as 2020. as for the warranty, my lambda sensor gave up the ghost in may 2022 and the dealer asked 400EUR for "warranty service", even if all products in the EU are subject to a 2 year warranty free of charge. I contacted Kawasaki Corporate and they responded that they stand by their dealer and if I don't like it I can take them to court (which would cost at least 1000EUR). So Kawasaki has no warranty!

@iceniscrambler344

Жыл бұрын

@@showmytime9177 that's terrible, a crap dealer and Kawasaki should've honour the warranty, unfortunately we have many of those rogue dealers here in the UK, but I would've thought that a big company like Kawasaki would've done something about your sensor, sorry to hear that