I love Rayman's passion for Nakamichi, clearly a man with a lot of love for the brand who has his eye's set on bringing the company back from the dead.

@Jucelegario

Жыл бұрын

Why is a chinese man, the CEO of the US side, of a japanse company? Shouldn't the US CEO be a japanese guy given is a japanese company?

Rayman's love and drive for the Nakamichi dragon is phenomenal.Can't wait for this to come out,i'm all for it!!

That's a enthusiast CEO, LOVE HIM! Love the product just by seeing what it holds inside. Man would I like to hear it live. This thing is gonna sell so much.

Had an Ambeo (Plastic cracking Issues), Samsung Q950A (Boomy Bass, Poor Stereo Music), HT-A9 (Great atmos effects, but non existent mid range and crappy sub), in the end went with Integra receiver and Kef 7.1.4 speakers as I was tired of waiting for a quality soundbar setup. This Dragon is the soundbar I was really waiting for, what a beast!.

@TravionMusic

Жыл бұрын

That plastic cracking issue is not that bad 😂😂😂, but I get it. This Dragon might dethrone the Ambeo

@donopete1

Жыл бұрын

Which sw sub did you get with the Sony a9?

@YoD85

Жыл бұрын

@@donopete1 I had the Sw5. I really don't get the reviews. Sub was like non existent. I returned everything.

@Gravy_Master

Жыл бұрын

@@TravionMusic HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LAUGHING FACE EMOJIS 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 VERY MUCH FUNNY MAKE BIG LAUGH JUICY CHUCKLE CHUCKLE

@RonD84

Жыл бұрын

Sub was non existent you serious, I get its only 300W but honestly you must of had it set to 0 because in a medium size room it shakes shut up big time, Try watching Close Encounters of the 3rd kind when Roy is sat in his car when at the junction, Even with it set on 8 was incredible, I get you may not like it but non existent is complete nonsense

I ABSOLUTLY WANT IT!

Take my money 💰

And now this is the new soundbar dream.

Now this is how you revive a brand! The Dragon name stood for something that was at the TOP of its class, and this system clearly delivers! Dont think anyone else is even close to Nakamichi in sound bars right now. I say they should eventually get back to the HiFi stuff, perhaps start with a Nakamichi "Dragon" DAC and go from there.

Congratulations we are waiting

This is really cool for audio enthusiasts who might not own their home, meaning they can't cut holes in the ceiling and route cables through the wall etc.

Working in a high end audio shop back in the 80s I had the pleasure of selling one to one of my top customers. He made some wonderful recordings on it. He even gave me on. Back then on a TDK metal tape. Oh, the customer was the actor David Ogden Stiers from MASH fame.

A legendary brand

NICE!

Samsung, move over. Nakamichi is BACK baby! And with DUAL sub cabinets to boot?! That's awesome.

this is what im looking for full wireless system that can rival an avr👍👍👍

Having the Dragon turntable and cassette deck I may have to pick one up!

I'm glad Nakamichi is back with something really full blown and extremely competitive, I just wished they got a Dirac Partnership or something

Very promising

I still have (and listen to) a Nakamichi single disc CD player (1983) and once owned a Nakamichi Dragon (Cassette player/recorder)

I'm ready to buy one

Killer!

Please bring this to UK, I need this to finish my home cinema

Wow

I hope we can get this in the uk🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

That could definitely sell well. Don't need much market research. Soundbars and similar are an established commodity. Just have to make a product that accomplishes the Brief properly.

Just watched Caleb Dennison's impressions and even in the youtube video it sounded amazing. Unfortunately, $3,500 nowadays buys you an entry level home theater (most AVR are well over $1,000) so this being an optimized system should handily beat that. Heck, even 2 SVS 3000 Micros with an AVR would cost almost as much. We'll be seeing a lot of high-end soundbars as home theaters are too expensive and too complicated. Those overhead speakers are now the domain of dedicated home theaters or homes that don't mind having a few floating speakers in the ceiling with cables on the walls etc. Most people settle for 2 or 3 channel HT or a soundbar.

@Jacob-ed1bl

Жыл бұрын

Entry level at best and it's not going to be a dolby Atmos setup, just a basic 5.1 or a little better. I couldn't come close to $3500 even if I used garbage speakers for my 7.2.4 theater room equipment. For what this does and how it performs i think it's a good deal "if real world results are good".

How will it do in an asymmetric room with side firing speakers?

Thanks for the video What can you comment on room calibration? Does it admit making filters manually at the frequency that interests us? I say this for making measurements at the listening point with Room EQ Wizard and being able to export fully customizable filters. written with translator Greetings

The fact that this is wireless probably sealed the deal for a lot of pe9ple I know it did for me!

@H0DLTHED0R

Жыл бұрын

Nice, now all you need to do is select which bank you're going to rob to buy it.

@lamakicker69

Жыл бұрын

@@H0DLTHED0R it’s really not that bad, 17 channels is a lot. The price of an AVR that could support that many channels would be over this system alone. Then you need speakers and subs. $3500 is honestly a fair price.

I've been looking for something better to replace my Vizio Elevate, this absolutely does it. Can't wait!

@HoracioPz

Жыл бұрын

I am in the same boat, I have an Elevate as well. I was thinking on a budget of $4k to get a receiver and some emotiva speakers(i like ribbon tweeters), and now I'll wait to see the reviews of this system. It will be easier to fit on the living room and the wife wont complain about tower speakers and cables everywhere.

@chazcarpenter1559

Жыл бұрын

I just got the new 2022 elevate M series. Wondering how it compares to the 2020 Elevate

@Guwapo77

Жыл бұрын

@@chazcarpenter1559 Vizio is entry level, Dragon is the apex. Its like comparing a Nissan Z to a BMW M5 CS... both gets the job done, but one is faster and all around better. Just more of everything and so much clearer.

@chazcarpenter1559

Жыл бұрын

@@Guwapo77 I know the dragon is better obviously. I was asking about comparing the 2020 elevate vs the 2022 one. Yes the dragon is a beast lol. $3500 is just a damn stretch for most people

@TheRockeyAllen

Жыл бұрын

@@Guwapo77 my man You did not just compare the Nissan Z to a freaking Vizio 😭😭😭

0:22 Lol CEO wanted one but couldn't afford it, so he made one that none of us can afford either !

Looks great!! Would love a demo of this.

@je19921

Жыл бұрын

DigitalTrends had a hotel demo of it in his video today, go look it up.

@H0DLTHED0R

Жыл бұрын

@Jeremy P I'm afraid to ask what kind of demo he had in his hotel room. Pink team over there Boyz!

What receiver to get in 2023. Still got the svs speakers from a buddy who sold me his. It's 5.1 still. Need a nice one for the lg c1. Are group has a budget around 1 thousand dollars.

Bring this to India ❤️🙏

@TheRockeyAllen

Жыл бұрын

it won't make business sense. It'll cost like 10L+ in India after taxes and duties... there won't be any sales. If someone really wants it, they would have to import it

I hope this one will be available in my country.

@ms3862

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this brand isn't sold in my country so this news and product doesn't matter to me

$3,500 is a much more attractive price point???

They better offer a trade-in program. I just bought the 2022 version thinking that was the best. This thing is awesome

@stefanb974

Жыл бұрын

Same.. Just got the 2022 flag ship in Nov.

@kwietl33tg33k

Жыл бұрын

I hope they offer a trade in as well.

@H0DLTHED0R

Жыл бұрын

Your husband going to divorce you.

@EASTCAMDEN4LIFE

Жыл бұрын

@@H0DLTHED0R 😂

จะมีการผลิตภัณฑ์ทีวีมัยครับ฿?

Shame they don't sell outside of America...I would have loved to have a system

I'll be selling my receiver and sub for this. I want a smart speaker system with atmos.

All the Sennheiser Ambeo owners are green with envy looking at those up firing surround speakers...

@TravionMusic

Жыл бұрын

Shitttt, I know I am

Will it work with slanted ceilings

Problem with my room you can’t bounce sound of my ceiling

take my money

are the 2 subs opposing

com on, DENMARK want it to!!!!!!!!!!

I think im going with the sony str-an1000 avr, klipsch 8000 floor speakers, with svs 12" Subwoofer, klipsch center, surround, and atmos for under that soundbar price. And i bet sounds 1000 x's better. At least i hope. Lol

@totalplonker824

11 ай бұрын

When it comes to 2 channel stereo audio, I actually preferred the sound of my budget £400 Sony STR dn1080 over my mid-price £2,000 Denon 6500. Sony sounds great 2-ch music

wow, how much it will be?

Can u buy this in the uk

May just sell my q990b for this if the reviews hit well and i suspect they will! Way more power an hopefully signals dont cut out easily like q990b

@chazcarpenter1559

Жыл бұрын

They just revealed the 2023 q990c at CES last week. If it finally has HDMI 2.1 I’ll probably buy it. That was my only complaint with the q990b

@charismalifecoach5439

Жыл бұрын

@@chazcarpenter1559 Very little info about it. All I heard was better q symphony and spacefit pro. Kinda dry honestly.. If it's only that an maybe stronger connection so no dropouts.. it will be the value buy this year an Nakamichi Dragon being the absolute best.

@H0DLTHED0R

Жыл бұрын

Sell it now! Along with a vital organ

@charismalifecoach5439

Жыл бұрын

@@H0DLTHED0R haha yeah all good things require vital organs :c q990b was supposed to be good an cost only a kidney 😅 now unsatisfied an looking at dragon. It's about the same price as a decent speaker setup without the 2k to power it all soo.. Nakamichi dragon Hum.

Great bar but for that price why wouldn’t you get an actual home theatre i mean 4 subs over kill and all wireless not sure I want all wireless sounds like a lot of issues

What is the release date in america"

Can This Dragon live up to its name or will it tarnish it. Only time will tell.

Any idea if all the hdmi are 2.1? Surely they are at 3500?

@EASTCAMDEN4LIFE

Жыл бұрын

3x HDMI 2.1

God I want one, gutted it's going to be stupid to own one in UK.

Why does only US receives all the good stuff 😢

How come no demo or video of you guys experiencing the demo given? That's what KZread is for, especially when talking about a product. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@chazcarpenter1559

Жыл бұрын

Caleb Dennison reviews it

@HeraBros07

Жыл бұрын

@@chazcarpenter1559 Yeah I saw that one. It was great! Just wanted another point of view and figured AV Forums would do an equal job of presenting the (a new) product.

I have a Nakamichi Shockwafe 7.2.4 on a 77" LG OLED C1 since May/2020. I just can't get the sound right and have a muffled sound cutting in/out in Dolby and Atmos content (tried all the settings and firmware is up to date). I don't get this "muffle" sound with my office 55" LG OLED C1 with Sonos Beam Gen 1, Gen 3 Sub, and 2 rear Ikea Symfonisk bookshelf speakers. Probably going to replace the Nakamichi with a Sonos Arc system eventually. Don't want to spend +$3500 for the Dragon and have the same issue.

Id pay $2000 for it. $3500 is a stretch though… and yes I realize just how nice this set is. Still only think realistically it’s worth around $2000

@Guwapo77

Жыл бұрын

If I can get the sound of my AV system in a far smaller package and half the price... I might look to sell mine and grab this. If this soundbar is even remotely is a good as I think it is, its they could be under selling this "soundbar".

@ruvamsi

Жыл бұрын

@@Guwapo77 Seriously! If the subs and auto-calibration are actually good, I'm sold. I have a nice 2.2 stereo setup in the same price range and avoided home theater due to clutter and cost. Even for a modest home theater, you're at $2500 for receiver and subs alone. I'm expecting this will sound better than modest

@chazcarpenter1559

Жыл бұрын

@@Guwapo77 yeah no doubt its going to sound incredible. I want one. I have a few gen 2 sonos subs I could probably get around $400 for each. May sell those to help out with the cost

@frankvee

Жыл бұрын

It comes with not one but TWO seperate subs in addition to the very high quality soundbar... it's worth the asking price or close to it.

@carlosgraphic

Жыл бұрын

It is not cheap like that! Even the Nakamichi CEO can't afford it! Lol.

Can it be powered by a 240v 50/60hz power source ??

@NAKAMICHIUSA

Жыл бұрын

110-240V ready right out of the box.

Is Sony HT-A9 ($1500) and this one in same segment? Or is this significantly better that these are in different segment?

@Guwapo77

Жыл бұрын

Different segment. I didn't like the HT-A9 at all...

@g78kar

Жыл бұрын

@@Guwapo77 Thank You !

We get 10" or 12" subs would be nice

I'm very interested in this combo but it looks like it does not have a radio / tuner built into it. So, if you want a tuner section looks like you will have to buy that separate.

@frankvee

Жыл бұрын

Radio tuner? What are we back in the 80s again?

@Mr.HotRod

Жыл бұрын

@@frankvee What can I say? I'm almost 70 so the 80's is like yesterday to me. My first serious receiver was a 4 channel quadraphonic Pioneer 949 with the smaller BIC speakers and a very popular turntable at the time but I now cannot think of the name of it off hand. Someone out there help me. It had an Audio Technic special like A-15 stylus for reading quad records. I have about 50 quad records. Still have the Pioneer 949 but the little plastic door on the back fell off. I would like to place a pre-order for the DRAGON but need help with where to do this. Take Care Frank Vee. Hey didn't you have a band back in the 80's or maybe it was the 60's I go back to that too. Seems like you played all 4 SEASONS.........

@milesmorra5910

Жыл бұрын

Why not stream music instead? There are enough streaming services for music. Heck! You're already here. You could listen to music on KZread or Spotify. There's no reason for a "radio tuner" anymore. Radio is practically a dead platform.

@Mr.HotRod

Жыл бұрын

@@milesmorra5910 I am old and do not know the way of the youguns for music, YET. Once I own the DRAGON SYSTEM I will have to see if I can stream music from it. I'm also confused on how to use a headphone connection to it.

@milesmorra5910

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.HotRod sir... Just get on KZread and type any song you want to listen to. Just how you can search for any video on here which I'm sure you already know how to do. It's the same thing, just type it in and listen to whatever you want. It's that easy.

😂😂😂 he said not Evan a dedacated home theatre can match it he’s funny

@je19921

Жыл бұрын

probably meant at that price. of course if you buy lascala speakers at 25K a pop, and have top of the line audiophile gear you can destroy this 3.5K$ setup. But at 3.5K$, you can't beat this, I don't think.

@frankvee

Жыл бұрын

​@@je19921 I think a nice mid-tier AVR paired with reasonably priced but good performing speakers (ELAC or similar) and two small but capable subs (SVS PB-1000 or similar) will outperform this system, but would be a heck of a lot more trouble to set up and calibrate.

@milesmorra5910

Жыл бұрын

@@frankvee but how much would this be if we're talking about an estimate here? Would love to go with a real system than this compact one if it could be reasonably priced.

How much $$$$ ?

Sales pitches are always so funny.

Nakamichi...now you're talking.

1:45 I think you know better to call this a sound bar lol

Got the wrong time stamps

@avforums

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Fixed.

THIS SOUND BAR TRASHED THE SONY HTA7000. FACT CHECKED!!!

@gb3496

Жыл бұрын

At almost DOUBLE the price... $3,500 for this is nuts...

$3,500, 3,000 watts, certainly using Class D amps, which are about the same the ones used in mobile sound systems. Packaged systems are about being compact, but aren’t true Hi Fidelity.

@michaelburton5198

Жыл бұрын

Is 3000 Watts More Than 🤔 Top Avr Receivers, Like Denon AVRX6700H Or Marantz?????

How do I justify this purchase with wifey? 🤔

Trying to bite my tongue but I can't do it, and I like Nakamichi a lot, but why does he keep saying that it has 4 subs? All I see are 2 subs with 2 opposing drivers each...? The irony with the up firing speakers have come and gone years ago already because they sucked...?

@DG-ws7ir

Жыл бұрын

There are 2 subs in each housing so 4 total and you can turn them on and off independently.

@sickjohnson

Жыл бұрын

@@DG-ws7ir I guess you don't see the point I am trying to make here...but when you go an buy a single sub, it can have multiple drivers in it, but it is still and always been called or classified as a single sub with multiple drivers in its single enclosure...no? Maybe I am just the only one who is deranged and has lost my mind here with dreams of conflation? Just thought I smelled some good old fashion snake oil over selling bias...thanks for correcting me.

@wayneross9723

Жыл бұрын

​@@sickjohnson just seems like square couple of b&w pv1's subs

I think they lost the idea of what makes a soundbar, this in a full blown surround system than takes a lot of space and that is exactly what a soundbar aims to solve. I think the Sonos is the best "soundbar" that can function well even without a sub.

@frankvee

Жыл бұрын

This not a soundbar, it's a soundbar on steroids. It for those who want the convenience of a soundbar that approaches the performance of a good entry-level home theater system.

@jefffawcett

Жыл бұрын

He literally says don’t call it a soundbar 😅

@angel_one1259

Жыл бұрын

@@jefffawcett Yeah, so what do you call it? a home theater? it is literally a bar that produces sound. if they don't want it to be referred as a soundbar then why not just build a wireless HTIB which is where they are really going for.

@vorjay

Жыл бұрын

@@angel_one1259 it's a wireless surround sound theater that just happens to have a sound bar. All the manufacturers from Klipsch, Samsung, Sony and Sonos have been doing it lately, where have you been?

Really it is STILL a soundbar…But i am getting interested in hearing such a thing…But yeah it is still a soundbar…a dedicated atmos setup is always better then a soundbar.. I really never understood why they call it “wireless” when you need 5 more power plugs then you would normally need, id rather lay some speakerwire…And for 3500 dollars you can get a setup that sounds better i think..

@je19921

Жыл бұрын

can you have an av receiver able to handle all these channels tho for 3.5K. My guess is some of the work would go to an external amp, increasing prices, but maybe I'm wrong.

@techsamurai11

Жыл бұрын

I think, it'd be tough for anyone to come up with a system for $3,500 that would beat that because subs are expensive. You'd have to spend at least $1,200 for the subs assuming you go for the B&W 608 or $1,600 for the SVS 3000 Micro. Your AVR would have to be at least $1,500 for a fraction of the power assuming it can put out 3,000 watts. Then you go cheap on the speakers and get the Polk Reserve R600 and the matching center. You're already over that and you only have a 3.2 system. Sure, it's a fantastic system but it's a 3.2. And these are the easy and cheap speakers as the others require cables in the ceiling and in the back walls. Once you've run cables in the ceiling and rear of your living room, there's no end to what you'll spend on the speakers and electronics. Suddenly, the Nakamichi looks free. Although I would personally prefer that it looked like the MUSO 2 - in a nice maple/light oak, I would even consider replacing my B&W 703s since B&W will never make a speaker like that again for anything less than $15k. Looks matter as much as sound especially for soundbars which do not go into dark home theaters.

@techsamurai11

Жыл бұрын

@@je19921 Oh, that's how it starts. Everyone should watch Andrew Robinson's video of installing overhead speakers to understand what is involved. Unless the house is pre-wired or new construction, the word Atmos should be reserved for soundbars which are technically free when it comes to sound. Sure you pay some money but it's absolutely nothing compared to building a system in a real living space.

@justkiddin1980

Жыл бұрын

@@techsamurai11 The 3000 watt claim is “total peak power” so i dare to say it is marketing bullshit…i can pit together a good sounding atmos setup for around that price

@techsamurai11

Жыл бұрын

@@justkiddin1980 Yeah but the Atmos part is tough and expensive - we're of course assuming that after installing the system, the space will be livable and not look like the interior of a Borg cube.

At the MSRP of $3,499 (US), you can have a Mid-level Top-End AVR + 11 very good speakers & Subs which will definitely sound much, much better than this expensive toy. 😂 But I do appreciate the enthusiasm not in that price segment though. The European price tag will be doubled with shipping costs and... there goes the logic.

@1fastmx5

Жыл бұрын

I never can understand the absolutism when never heard the system lol

@Guwapo77

Жыл бұрын

I have an 11.2.4 and I spent way more then $3,500 for it. The Yamaha AVR was $2000 and that didn't include speakers. So if I can get 90-95% of the sound from less than half of what I paid for, I'm really looking to "upgrade" and free up tons of space.

@EASTCAMDEN4LIFE

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone wants a living room looking like an electronic store

So many optimist comments. Bet they're from nakamichi's employee. I was there when nakamichi is still owned by original owner. The brand is luxurious, fine finishing and strong also produce beautiful sound. But after 2000 if there is nakamichi's store in your area. All they sell just crappy products. Looks like cheap products from china. And you have hope for this? I love you optimism

My Samsung Q700B was $377 US. It is NOT as good but darn close. Far better value proposition IMHO.

@Guwapo77

Жыл бұрын

Just bought the Samsung Q750B for $450 at Best Buy. It's good, but its not even freaking close. Please don't fool yourself into thinking these two products are even close in comparison.

No way in hell im buying any Soundbar for $3,500

If it only has 2 subs & 2 surround speakers, Nakamichi is playing games by counting them twice (Kef doesn't do that with its subs with dual drivers, and no one did that with bipolar surrounds) - pretty sad for a company that used to be so respected. The Dragon name is iconic because they never used to do that type of marketing BS. BTW, why i no one talking about whether it can accept inputs from external devices, such as a Dragon cassette deck, Dragon turntable, or CD player?

3 grand price yikes!

@techsamurai11

Жыл бұрын

yeah but think about buying 2 subs and an AVR - and these are dual. It's really hard to put a decent 5 channel home theater together for that kind of money with 1-2 subs. This may actually be really cheap once you consider the components.

@TheGjergj79

Жыл бұрын

@@techsamurai11 Might check this out, i have the klipsch cinema 1200 and it's my second unit,first one had alot of problems and they sent me a new one. The new one has some audio problems too.

@techsamurai11

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGjergj79 That's a bummer - what kind of problems?

@TheGjergj79

Жыл бұрын

@@techsamurai11 No sound from the soundbar,rear surround speaker not working and static from the rear surround speaker.

@techsamurai11

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGjergj79 holy smokes, that sounds like catastrophic failure. Can you get a refund?

Sounds like a 1000 dollar setup

@paulrevere1479

Жыл бұрын

$3500

@thomassiegers3007

Жыл бұрын

@@paulrevere1479 sounds bad

@WEBULL10

Жыл бұрын

You haven’t even listened to the product, why even comment if you haven’t heard? Your lack of audio experience and expertise is pathetic.

@MOAB-UT

Жыл бұрын

yep

Get a real home theatre for that price that actually sounds good

@je19921

Жыл бұрын

Judging a product before hearing it is the most stupid thing anyone can do man. You are probably right assuming a dedicated setup can beat this, but no way you can state this based on a youtube video lol

@kwietl33tg33k

Жыл бұрын

Digital trends said it was Incredible. Were you there to hear it or were just listening to the sounds coming out of your ass?

@MrBjorn6

Жыл бұрын

@@je19921 I have the 9.2.4 SSE and that sounds incredible, so I'm sure this will sound better?

@zarusobaman7084

Жыл бұрын

New nakamichi has lost the soul of original nakamichi. Just look for their products since 2001. Its not japan nakamichi anymore. The owner is changed

@thomassiegers3007

Жыл бұрын

@@je19921 you can

love how Hes pissing off the big names and cutting into their profits from there subpar overpriced audio components!

It's not an 11.4.6. Stop lying.

He needs more enthusiasm if he wants to be the front man. This system is too expensive. A quality AV with the bulk of the money going into LARGE, quality speakers with better sound separation will beat this thing all day long.

@vorjay

Жыл бұрын

yeah, I think you lost the plot. You don't even seem to grasp who this is geared towards but have your silly little pleb opinions.

Comparing this to the original Dragon products is a joke, surely.

I just bought the Sony HTA9s bummer! If I knew this were coming I’d have waited but on the positive side doesn’t sound like they’ll be in the U.K. anytime soon.

@Guwapo77

Жыл бұрын

Sell it and catch a flight to the US. LoL

These guys are channel scammers as usual. In reality this is a 9.2.4 system. The rears are one channel each not two each, plus the up firing another two. The front up firing are two channels not four. The subwoofers are two, not four. Don't get why they always have to lie.

@SteveHardie42

11 ай бұрын

The subs are essentially 4 channels, as they can be adjusted and turned off and on individually.

@rafars2246

11 ай бұрын

@@SteveHardie42 no, 2, two freaking subs are two freaking channels. You got to be kidding...

Why is a chinese man, the CEO of the US side, of a japanse company? Shouldn't the US CEO be a japanese guy given is a japanese company?

OVER PRICED!!

I thought it was well established that bouncing sound of the ceiling for Atmos sucks... AND that wireless speakers have lag and suck... I personally hate anything wireless, it's unreliable. I want to hear a review from someone other then that digital trends guy... he doesn't strike me as knowledgeable or critical.