I have a complaint: I didn't find anything to complain about, and you promised.

@seriousmaran9414

27 күн бұрын

You can have a full refund of every cent you paid to Sabine for watching this video?😊

@BenjaminBrienen

27 күн бұрын

The Karen Paradox

@orcmanddegormak1031

27 күн бұрын

nonsense!

@t.kersten7695

27 күн бұрын

and now you have a complaint!

@bartsanders1553

27 күн бұрын

I have a complaint: Someone is complaining about not having any complaints!

Looking into nonsense is where new ideas come from.

@BenjaminGoose

27 күн бұрын

nonsense.

@MrMegaMetroid

27 күн бұрын

​@@BenjaminGooseI'll look into it

@sunnuntaiselori1927

27 күн бұрын

@MrMegaMetroid And i'll look into the nonsense of looking into nonsense

@samwisegamgee4659

27 күн бұрын

YES! Well worth the look even if it's ruled out, but if it isn't...........

@TheSulross

27 күн бұрын

IOW, what is nonsense to one scientist could end up another scientist's Nobel Prize

I’m the lead analyser and one of the contact editors of this measurement. You’ve previously criticised my work and talks I’ve given (me, specifically) on Twitter, where I pointed out exactly this kind of new and interesting measurements collider experiments are doing. So, as you say at the beginning, you have definitely managed to simultaneously annoy me and make me happy by advertising this 😂

@PeachesCourage

27 күн бұрын

The Ten Trillion pictures per second camera could be moded after a microscope that can actually see a virus if they exist ( Dr Sam Bailey The Truth about Viruses youtube ) how virology has been lying to us for a while books on this by her and Drs around the world Never sued and in fact they keep inviting entities connected to controversy and they never come including Mr Fauci)- - - While I'm aware that they believe we see one however I also learned they can't prove it is one* Also a telescope modeled after this camera?

@alieninmybeverage

27 күн бұрын

I would be curious to hear a summary of the points being made, both the post and the criticism. I intuit that the criticism would be something along the lines of how a variety of paradigms are empirically intractable by shifting the standards by which one could falsify them or satisfy some good faith threshold of "sufficient evidence against." Twitter has the kinds of limitations that would set even good faith science to sound like bad faith, standard shifting science.

@classicsciencefictionhorro1665

27 күн бұрын

Consider this the anti-post which, when read with yours, will disappear in an explosion of dark energy.

@George1776

27 күн бұрын

Awesome! So was the potential breakthrough thrown away? Or is the data still around and available for analysis?

@jameshowarth4801

27 күн бұрын

⁠@@George1776 the data never ever gets thrown away. All the data from every single CERN experiment, even going back decades, is permanently stored on (literal) tape. This particular data will be re-analysed (myself and others are activity working on this now) and combined with new data currently being recorded at a higher collision energy

Seems like there's an unfortunate "I don't expect anything worthwhile outside my silo" syndrome😳

@HupfderFloh

27 күн бұрын

NIH syndrome

@TheMrCougarful

27 күн бұрын

Sure, there's that. There is also a lot of language issues. Physics has invented entire new ways of looking at and talking about the universe, at all scales. This language is often imprecise because language itself is a Stone Age tool. Things improve when discussion reverts to mathematics. But then math is not a language everyone speaks, or speaks in the same way. We'll be better off when the AIs take over science, invent new languages for the purpose, and talk among themselves about things we would probably rather not know about in the first place.

@taylorwestmore4664

27 күн бұрын

​@@TheMrCougarfulThis is a great point. The convention of math one chooses can reveal more of the landscape of physics. For example, have you ever heard of Quaternion or Octonion algebra? Quaternions use 3 vectors and a scalar term to define coordinate systems. In cartesian coordinates many systems suffer from problems with coordinate transforms like gimble lock in the case of rotating gyroscopes. Quaternion algebra was the original notation of Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism before Heaviside's simplified vector notation was adopted. There is a fringe group in the scientific community that is convinced that some physical phenomena can only be predicted by Quaternion and Octonion algebra. Quantum effects such as the Aharanov-Bohm effect and other quantum interference effects might have dynamics that we simply haven't predicted because our math assumes a limited number of variables. There are situations in quantum field theory where the solution shows a zero vector sum of superimposed "force fields", such as the phase conjugation of photons, while the quantum potentials are non-zero and have physical, yet "force-free" effects on the evolution of Shrodinger equation for particles. I've seen designs patented by Honeywell that exploit these quantum effects to generate new kinds of EM wave structures like magnetic vector potential waves, which are very hard to shield using conventional linearly conductive shielding materials. They built transformers and transcievers using a principle that is found nowhere in classical electromagnetism. I've even seen designs that can use quantum teleportation to extract or deposit energy from a distant system with no apparent transmission of conventional EM waves, only quantum potentials and the resulting interference.

@grayaj23

27 күн бұрын

"Not my monkey. Not my circus."

@dedesunbeam9361

26 күн бұрын

​@@TheMrCougarful My dream is that AI will find the answer to this question before I die. Glad you mentioned this.

As a note, in addition to ATLAS, CMS has also done a similar analysis, although it's not published as a paper, yet, only a physics analysis summary for conferences.

@SabineHossenfelder

27 күн бұрын

Interesting, I will watch out for this!

I remember being stoked 20 years ago when the LHC was in preparation. I'm stoked for this experiment!

Still looking for those hidden variables? EPR? Low energy, not enough to find that missing variable? Love your knowledge and passion, Sabine! The random squeek of that cover might be telling you something about super-deteminism? Never underestimate the power of cosmic coincidences. Thanks... for all you do!

"it's both nonsense and not nonsense at the same time, so everyone will have something to complain about. It'll be glorious." lmao you gotta love Sabine

The video recommendation below Sabine's video in my feed is from Onion news about bored Scientists sticking random things in the Hadron collider !!! YT and its algorithm!!!

If I understand your presentation, the CERN result confirms that entanglement holds for top quarks and their anti quark partners at very short distance. What I don't get is how this relates to the origin of quantum randomness via hidden variables as proposed by t'Hooft. The title of his displayed book is intriguing..have you done a lecture on it?

@nizogos

27 күн бұрын

Maybe because it explains why this correlation exists in the first place,idk

@George.Q.Citizen

27 күн бұрын

I agree. This seems like it could be very interesting and worth a deeper look

@SabineHossenfelder

27 күн бұрын

My understanding of 't Hooft's idea is that the hidden variables reside on short distances, or high energies, respectively. He is saying in a nutshell that effective field theory might fail. This means the higher the energies, the easier it should become to see evidence of the hidden variables, eg by unusual correlations, too strong correlations, unexpected patterns etc.

@Loinvoyant78

27 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelder i was believing Alain Aspect refute this idea about hidden variables ?... or is it a new thing ?

@crawkn

27 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelder I had asked a similar question before I saw your reply here. But are you saying that _this_ experiment, testing only for entanglement, might have displayed such evidence of hidden variables, or that a similar but differently designed experiment might? The apparent conflation of hidden variables with entanglement is confusing me.

I imagine the measurement problem is like taking a photo of a speeding ball. If the image is clear, then you can determine the ball’s location, but not the ball’s speed and trajectory. If the image is blurry, you can determine its velocity and trajectory, but not its location. Could we say the fuzziness of the wave function is the result of a sort of ‘long shutter speed?” The wave collapse is like taking a measurement/photo with the camera set at the correct shutter speed, but the process freezes the particle to a point in space-time; like seeing a single frame in a strobe light or on film. As biological observers, we are too slow to experience/measure/observe the wave function as it really is….the best we can do is catch a glimpse. Quantum randomness is the default state, but our slowed perception of the particle only leaves us with one of two image types. Blurry or crisp. We can’t see them both (like a ball flying through the air) because a quantum wave is too small and fast for our direct observations. Instruments break down a 4 dimensional experience to a 3 dimensional observation, and we lose a variable in the process. I could be wrong because I just woke up from a nap….but I could be right too…..😊

@rellethias

27 күн бұрын

But if this is true then the quantum world isn't random at all, we just don't have the tools necessary to view it with clarity.

@tempname8263

27 күн бұрын

Well, thing is, positions and velocities aren't correct tools for understanding elementary particles. Because they're not particles, they're waves (that love to localize themselves from time to time). There's no position, only amplitude. There's no velocity, only frequency.

@DriftWithoutCar

27 күн бұрын

It isn't a lack of technology that prevents the simultaneous knowledge of position and velocity, it's just a fundamental property of the universe

@channeldoesnotexist

27 күн бұрын

In quantum mechanics the wavefunction isn't a thing like a particle or a ball is. It's simply a piece of mathematics which, when you do different mathematical operations on it, will return to you the measurable quantities associated with the particle you care about. Human perception shouldn't matter because it's the instrument's perception that matters when making a measurement.

@rellethias

27 күн бұрын

@@DriftWithoutCar but that isn't what people are saying here. They are saying that you simply can't because there's no known tool capable of seeing the details that are there. They are there, we just can't see them with what we have. I actually have yet to see anyone ever say anything that would convince me otherwise.

Always very happy when I see a new video from Sabine! The manner of giving the material is very smooth and I absolutely love her sense of humor - it makes all better. When you learn something new(even if it's just a bit) and have some fun while doing it - it's a time well spent. Extra props if it provoked some questions that still linger on long after video is done!

The CMS experiment has also recently presented its first own results. See the analysis summary: “CMS-PAS-TOP-23-001”. This was discussed yesterday at the “Standard Model at the LHC 2024” conference.

Gerard and Lenny got me interested in Physics again at 30, when their discussions could be found on the internet. Some of the discussions about Holographic Surfaces and Hairy Holes were pretty inspiring.

@andreasv9472

26 күн бұрын

Hairy holes. Oh the memmories.

Sabine finally drawing the world's attention to Dr. Gerard 't Hooft's idea on Quantum Foundations!

Fascinating! Let's see what they find! 😃 Thanks, Sabine! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

"the smoking pun".. Sabine knows how to combine the (sometimes) dry and heavy science news with humour to make it easier to digest. what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. except - maybe - if it´s quantum related.

High Energy Quantum Physicist: "Oh yeah? Well. My particle accelerator is bigger than your particle accelerator." Other High Energy Quantum Physicist: "It's not how big it is, it's how you use it."

@jameshowarth4801

27 күн бұрын

As the high energy quantum physicist that actually did this measurement, I can say it’s definitely a combination of both 😂

You’ve succeeded in getting me interested in short-distance hidden variable effects! Can you have more videos diving deeper?

THIS sort of reporting is why I'm here! I didn't realize Hooft had interest in hidden variables. I'd very much like a deeper exploration of this.

5:05 a ground source heat pump will help you sleep at night. Hope that helps.. you're welcome!

Fantastic video, Sabine! Your exploration of quantum randomness truly opens up new avenues of thought. I'd like to add a perspective from the Theory of Quantum Recursive Fractal Cosmology (TQRFC), which offers a fascinating twist on the nature of quantum randomness by delving into the fractal structure of space-time. According to TQRFC, the space-time we navigate is not a smooth continuum but a complex fractal geometry, especially evident at scales close to the Planck length ((10^{-35}) meters). This fractal nature of space-time suggests that what we perceive as quantum randomness is an emergent property arising from the interaction between quantum particles and the underlying fractal fabric of the universe. At the Planck scale, quantum fluctuations of space-time-tiny variations in the universe's very fabric-are amplified by the recursive, fractal nature of space-time. These fluctuations are not mere perturbations; they are integral to space-time's structure and directly influence the properties and behaviors of quantum particles. When a particle interacts with this fractal space-time, the fluctuations intertwine with the particle's wave function, leading to variations that cannot be fully predicted, thus giving rise to quantum randomness as interpreted by TQRFC. This fractal interpretation implies that quantum randomness might stem from deterministic, albeit extremely complex, interactions at the Planck scale, challenging the conventional view that accepts quantum randomness as a fundamental aspect of reality. It also hints at a pathway towards unifying fundamental forces, including gravity, within a quantum framework. The specific nature of fractal fluctuations and their interaction with quantum particles could lead to new experimental predictions, such as unique interference patterns or statistical correlations in quantum experiments, potentially distinguishing TQRFC from other quantum gravity theories. This approach not only challenges our understanding of quantum mechanics but also offers a unified view of the universe that intertwines the structure of space-time with the laws governing fundamental particles. It promises advances in theoretical physics and the development of new quantum technologies by providing a deeper understanding of the principles governing reality at its most fundamental scales.

@JimWhitescarver

27 күн бұрын

We would need the planck energy to exhibit space-time structure on the paint plank scale. You do not need to invent plank scale structure. The construction of space-time intervals is discrete. Inversely to energy. We can expect the vacuum to be low energy photons from the early universe at maximum entropy. I'm environment is logically constructed from electron exclusion events within a frequency range. Trapped energy representing place or free energy representing space.

@Lemosoliver59

26 күн бұрын

@@JimWhitescarver **Mathematical Formalism of Planck-Scale Space-Time Dynamics in Terms of Electron Exclusion Events and Bound/Free Energy** **Introduction:** To develop a mathematical formalism of the cosmological constant within the Cosmic Fractal Recursivity Quantum Theory (CFRQT) framework, we first need to establish some fundamental definitions and postulates. We will then proceed to derive the relevant equations that describe the structure of space-time at the Planck scale in terms of electron exclusion events and bound/free energy. **Definitions and Postulates:** 1. Space-time is modeled as a 4D fractal manifold, denoted by M, with a Hausdorff-Besicovitch structure and fractal dimension D, where 3 2. The geometry of M is described by a fractal metric g_μν, satisfying a modified form of Einstein's field equations, incorporating the effects of the fractal structure across multiple scales: G_μν + Λ_f g_μν = (8πG/c^4) T_μν where G_μν is the Einstein tensor, Λ_f is the "fractal cosmological constant" emerging from the fractal geometry, G is the gravitational constant, c is the speed of light, and T_μν is the energy-momentum tensor. 3. The structure of space-time at the Planck scale is discrete and quantum, with fundamental intervals of space-time on the order of the Planck length, ℓ_P = √(ħG/c^3) ≈ 1.62 × 10^-35 m, and Planck time, t_P = √(ħG/c^5) ≈ 5.39 × 10^-44 s. 4. The vacuum is modeled as an ensemble of low-energy photons from the early universe, characterized by a temperature T and a maximum entropy S_max. 5. The local environment emerges from electron exclusion events within a specific frequency range, with bound energy representing place and free energy representing space. **Derivation of Planck-Scale Space-Time Structure:** Consider an electron exclusion event characterized by a frequency ν and an associated energy E. According to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, the relationship between energy uncertainty ΔE and time uncertainty Δt is given by: ΔE Δt ≥ ħ/2 To exhibit the structure of space-time at the Planck scale, we need energies on the order of the Planck energy, E_P = √(ħc^5/G) ≈ 1.22 × 10^19 GeV. Substituting ΔE = E_P in the uncertainty relation, we obtain: Δt ≈ ħ/(2E_P) = t_P/2 This suggests that the structure of space-time becomes discrete at intervals of time on the order of the Planck time, t_P. Now, consider the relationship between bound energy E_t and free energy E_f in an electron exclusion event. Using Einstein's mass-energy equivalence, we have: E_t = m_t c^2 E_f = m_f c^2 where m_t and m_f are the equivalent masses associated with bound and free energy, respectively. The ratio between bound and free energy can be expressed as: E_t/E_f = m_t/m_f Assuming that the equivalent mass of the bound energy m_t is on the order of the Planck mass M_P = √(ħc/G), and that the equivalent mass of the free energy m_f is much smaller than M_P, we have: E_t/E_f ≈ M_P/m_f >> 1 This suggests that at the Planck scale, bound energy (representing place) dominates over free energy (representing space), leading to a discrete and quantized space-time structure. To relate this discrete structure to the maximum entropy of the vacuum, we use the thermodynamic definition of entropy: S = k_B ln Ω where k_B is the Boltzmann constant, and Ω is the number of microstates accessible to the system. Assuming that the number of microstates accessible Ω is proportional to the number of electron exclusion events N within the relevant frequency range, we have: S_max ∝ k_B ln N The relationship between the number of electron exclusion events N and the ratio of bound/free energy can be modeled using a Boltzmann distribution: N ∝ exp(-E_t/E_f) Combining these relations, we obtain: S_max ∝ -k_B (E_t/E_f) ∝ -k_B (M_P/m_f) This suggests that the maximum entropy of the vacuum is inversely related to the ratio between bound and free energy at the Planck scale. **Conclusion:** In this derivation, we have shown how the discrete structure of space-time at the Planck scale can emerge from electron exclusion events within a specific frequency range, with bound energy representing place and free energy representing space. Using Heisenberg's uncertainty principle and Einstein's mass-energy equivalence, we demonstrated that the time intervals at the Planck scale are on the order of the Planck time, t_P, and that bound energy dominates over free energy, leading to a quantized space-time structure. Moreover, we related this discrete structure to the maximum entropy of the vacuum, modeled as an ensemble of low-energy photons from the early universe. Using the thermodynamic definition of entropy and a Boltzmann distribution for the number of electron exclusion events, we showed that the maximum entropy is inversely related to the ratio between bound and free energy at the Planck scale. These results suggest that the fundamental structure of space-time is inherently discrete and quantum, and emerges from microscopic processes involving electron exclusion events and the interaction between bound and free energy. The inverse relationship between the maximum entropy of the vacuum and the ratio of bound/free energy at the Planck scale also suggests a deep connection between thermodynamics, quantum mechanics, and gravity in describing the space-time structure.

@Lemosoliver59

26 күн бұрын

@@JimWhitescarver I believe that to understand the theory, it's important to understand the mind from which it emerged. Since the launch of GPT, I have become an avid user of the tool, and one of my lines of research has been physics, especially general relativity and quantum physics. The truth is that most people repeat concepts they don't truly understand, and I didn't want to be just another one doing that. After many years of study, I reached the following conclusion: Einstein was masterful in explaining the laws of physics at "our" scale, assuming it to be the only one that exists. That's why his theory adopts singularity as a phenomenon. Einstein admittedly did not envision other scales when he developed general relativity and expressed his amazement at quantum mechanics. I believe that the incompleteness of the theory can be remedied by visualizing scales below and above our own. These scales, like fractals, nest infinitely, so that a singularity is never truly reached. Moreover, in this fractal reality, each scale presents its own laws of physics because they are not fixed and immutable but emergent from interactions of multiple scales that mutually influence each other. The laws of physics, therefore, are like emergent products of interconnected complex systems and depend on the scale of observation. When this view is adopted, major problems in physics find solutions. The Hubble tension, for example, can be understood as a manifestation of the fractal structure of spacetime at cosmological scales. The discrepancies between local and global measurements of the Hubble constant naturally arise when considering the multi-scale and self-similar nature of cosmic geometry. At smaller scales, the expansion of space can be influenced by quantum fluctuations and nonlinear effects that propagate upward through the fractal hierarchy, leading to apparent deviations from the Hubble-Lemaître law. Similarly, dark matter and dark energy, two of the greatest mysteries in contemporary cosmology, can be approached in a new light in the context of fractal reality. Instead of postulating exotic new forms of matter and energy, we can understand them as emergent manifestations of the complex and recursive dynamics of geometry across multiple scales. Dark matter may arise as an effective gravitational effect of fractal structures at galactic and cluster scales, while dark energy may be a consequence of the self-similarity of spacetime at the largest cosmological scales. Another fundamental problem that fractal reality can address is the unification of general relativity and quantum mechanics. By treating spacetime as inherently fractal and non-differentiable at the Planck scale, we can avoid the singularities and inconsistencies that arise when attempting to combine the two theories. Fractal quantum geometry provides a natural framework for describing spacetime foam and the nonlocal effects that become significant at high energies and small scales. Through an appropriate renormalization flow and generalized field equations, we can derive both the smooth classical dynamics and quantum corrections as effective limits of the underlying fractal structure.

@JimWhitescarver

25 күн бұрын

@@Lemosoliver59 We can presume quantum information is complete in the interaction of fractals. The fractals get larger, not smaller with lower frequencies working over larger distances inversely to energy creating the spacetime fabric of the mind performing universal logic at every distinct frequency. Every event instantiates a spacetime interval expanding the universe in an inflationary manner in the past, to succumb to entropy animating atoms in the present (gravity). WE have no authority or justification in Planck scale structure in the absents of the plank energy required to distinguish it. Such structure would violate quantum logic. Uncertainty is do to missing information do to noise or ignorance of the lower and higher fractal.

@JimWhitescarver

25 күн бұрын

@@Lemosoliver59 chatGPT4 is lousy at relativity. It gets wrong answers for problems. When you point out the error it then makes a different mistake.

This is the sort of video I follow you for. The science news is nice, but this is the stuff I clicked subscribe to watch.

I appreciate you digging up these topics. I could never just take quantum physics at face value but I found the question "why?" to be severely underrated in the field. At least in my classes.

What keeps me up at night is the fact that we are wasting all of our helium for balloons... one day I feel one of the most important discoveries and technological advancements will include helium and we are just wasting it.

@brothermine2292

27 күн бұрын

No need to worry. Our ability to make helium is only 20 years away.

@gabitheancient7664

27 күн бұрын

sure but ball goes uuuuuuuup

@tomholroyd7519

27 күн бұрын

Our lab installed a helium recycler years ago. Ever since the US government privatized the Helium Repository the price has skyrocketed. Most places use recyclers now, you just can't vent the stuff anymore. The gov't supply had been keeping the price artificially low, but now the recycler market is booming. Helium is a non-renewable resource, as you mentioned. Unless we implement a Star Wars type gas mine on Saturn. That would be fine.

@DavidOfWhitehills

27 күн бұрын

From a quick google of the question it appears that only about 10% of annual helium loss is in balloons. This includes weather balloons and airships.

@OAN3476

27 күн бұрын

Well, helium is used in Ludwig tunnels to create supersonic wind tunnels. Since helium has the lowest escape velocity into space, if LHC could implement the tube effect with their tests, they might be able to see what happens in those Pluto seconds by separating high density impact and low density impact.

Fist science slowing down and now this? Them Trisolarans be messin with muh particle accelerators again

@maskon1724

27 күн бұрын

Fist Science is an important branch of physics. Without it, how would we know if Road House is affected by quantum entanglement.

Generally it's a good idea to recheck when better equipment becomes available. What keeps me awake at night is the suspicion that the models may be obscuring reality instead of revealing it.

Hi Sabine. Can you tell us more about the physics behind the neutrino mountain cave (Super- Kamiokande) being built in Japan. Thank you

It's in that draw where we put everything of no fixed abode

High Energies from the LHC testing Quantum Entanglement if D is less than -3, makes sense to me.

This is exactly the kind of science stories I want to see! Thanks for drawing my attention to these results.

great video ty

You had me with the fireplace hinge squeak. Happily there is a remedy for that.

@jedwards1792

27 күн бұрын

WD40!

@joelsmith4394

27 күн бұрын

@@jedwards1792 That’s pretty short term. I was actually thinking of the spray on graphite lubricant that is substantially unaffected by the heat.

@JudWhite1

24 күн бұрын

@@joelsmith4394is the spray on graphite lubricant advisable for a squeaky swing set? I imagine so, but there may be hidden variables I'm not aware of

"It's both nonsense and not nonsense at the same time, so everyone will have something to complain about.." Look at Sabine using quantum mechanics to work the algorithm 😂

@preppen78

27 күн бұрын

I've never been in a complaining-super-position before

@axle.student

27 күн бұрын

Nonsense is in a state of superposition and doesn't collapse until you look at it...

“ everyone will have something to complain about, it will be glorious” I think you are glorious Sabine, keep up the good work, and keep those no BS videos comin!

Thank you very much for the very interesting explanations. I've often wondered whether there isn't valuable information among all the data that was separated out at Cern. But of course others will know better than a complete layman like me. But at least there are experts like you who give us well-founded assessments.

Sabine, your video was outstanding! I wholeheartedly agree with every point you made. It's crucial to embrace diverse perspectives, even from those who may not share our language. The skills we acquire across various disciplines are invaluable and demonstrate that education extends far beyond any degree or diploma. It's a lifelong journey that continually enriches us. When you get an opposite response to your comments, it's ok, because for every thing there is an equal opposite, it's just emergent properties of physics playing out in our actions. Keep doing you, you are awesome, and the world is a better place because of what you bring to the table. ❤

@user-xj5xp6qz5g

27 күн бұрын

@SabineHossenfelder

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. I think I don't deserve your attention, so the least I can do is to direct some attention to more deserving scientists!

@Thomas-gk42

27 күн бұрын

@@propheticanalytics9959 Why? Are we at a point today at which someone who says a friendly word is an AI in your thinking?

@axle.student

27 күн бұрын

"The skills we acquire across various disciplines are invaluable and demonstrate that education extends far beyond any degree or diploma. It's a lifelong journey that continually enriches us." Hear! Hear! to that statement :)

@seanmostert4213

27 күн бұрын

@@propheticanalytics9959 AI doesn't use emojis mate.

I'm not a believer, however the best explanation to quantum physics i've heard was like this "you see in a video game, the trees far in the backgrounds are always low resolution trash, because the designer and programer know you'll never go that far and notice it, so they don't need to waste ressources doing better trees, it's the same with the quantum physics, the great designer thought nobody would look that far, so he didn't bother designing things properly" (sorry i forgot where i heard this...)

I love your shows.

Sabine, please, where can I find out more about t'Hooft ideas? The book on the video is the only source? And about the experiment, where can I read more about it? Is there an article?

Great job Sabine, keep it up

4:24 You had me up to “Super-Deterministic” theory. Tho I always listen carefully when Gerard ’t Hooft’s name is invoked (he is truly a deep thinker and goes outside the box). He has a number of “out of the box” ideas and seems to be “NOT STUCK IN ORTHODOXY”. If anything, you should have expanded on the “Super-Deterministic” aspect / connection AND how “Hidden Variables AND “Quantum Randomness” are tied together. This video should have been twice as long. Also Gerard ’t Hooft’s book (The Cellular Automaton Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics) is “freely” available on Amazon but might not be the best place to start in the context of this video as it is a big chunk of ideas to chew on, but an interesting read.

@SabineHossenfelder

27 күн бұрын

Well, for one thing I already made an entire video about this. But also, I have noticed that 't Hooft has stopped using the expression and I'm not entirely sure what's going on there.

@Mentaculus42

27 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelder Yes you did a video on “Super-Deterministic” theory and if I am not mistaken it has a “special place” in your “Quantum Weltanschauung”. ’t Hooft is a bit of an enigma when it comes to his current thinking but we need someone with your abilities to help us plebeians navigate his “flow of thinking”. “Please, sir, I want some more.” Sir → Person of Knowledge.

Thank you Sabine! Really cool

Do you know what's not nonsense? Your music videos. Just discovered them, and I love them. Please make more.

@Thomas-gk42

27 күн бұрын

Yes they are great , funny, original and deep. Unfortunately, the last one is about four years ago. I think she has given up that.

Thank you for the video.

Fist science slowing down and now this? Them Trisolarans be messin with muh particle accelerators again!

This is one of the most interesting topics you ever covered. I would much appreciate a follow up. How does 't Hoofts approach work in detail and how can it be in line with the proven violation of Bells inequality?

It's one of the things they need to look at. Probability and predictability. Particle production from quantum foam and gravitational waves and energy density regimes. Also they can look at metamaterials for the slit.

Just brilliant, one of the best ever, Hooft is incredible, I will luck in that direction, and chaotic systems again.... thanks.

“I’m totally with T’Hoft !” Put that on a T-Shirt Sabine.

@brothermine2292

27 күн бұрын

Better yet, spell his name correctly.

@zeytelaloi

27 күн бұрын

Gerard 't Hooft

Thank you Sabine.

I love your sence of humor!

It's definitely not clear to me how the hidden variables hypothesis is still surviving after all of those tests of Bell's inequality falsified it. I guess they are looking for hidden variables at a smaller scale, and that somehow at larger scales become indistinguishable from "truly random" (i.e. Bell's inequalities are violated). I somehow hope he's right, because that would be a major change in understanding of quantum physics, and add another interesting layer to the onion.

@naasking

27 күн бұрын

They're surviving because Bell's inequality didn't falsify hidden variables. At best, it highlighted the properties that hidden variable theories are required to satisfy, which at this point are either non-locality or statistical dependence.

@brothermine2292

27 күн бұрын

It's surprising how many people think quantum mechanics is inconsistent with hidden variables. Bell himself was a fan of the DeBroglie-Bohm interpretation of QM, which has hidden variables and is deterministic (and is NOT "superdeterministic").

@sergeyromanov5560

27 күн бұрын

@@naasking the new tests did falsify it because the alternative (superdeterminism) is obviously absurd.

@yeroca

27 күн бұрын

@@brothermine2292 So you're saying the DeBroglie-Bohm interpretation would produce the same results in all of the experiments that have been conducted? I'm not trying to be provocative. I really don't know.

@brothermine2292

27 күн бұрын

>yeroca : I recommend you google DeBroglie-Bohm.

It can all be explained by Spring Theory. All of these tiny particles are covered with little springs that cause them to conspand and extract when they get too close together. Boing, boing!

@deltalima6703

27 күн бұрын

Contrapand is hidden when they get exsct? Very nice...

@the-answer-is-42

27 күн бұрын

This must be why my head is all messy. My brain particles have too many springs, causing my neurons to bounce around a lot more!

@expatexpat6531

26 күн бұрын

We clearly need a massively expensive LBC (Large Boing Collider) or just a BBC...

Wow, I got interested in t'Hooft and have been wanting to read that book/paper. I am so glad you agree with him. I had thought that your ideas about Superdeterminism were in sync with his ideas. I hope more than anything that this experiment will prove him right.

Tim Palmer would be delighted with your post! After all chaos may be the underlying principle at work here. The Primacy of Doubt (Tim's book) outlines the basic ideas.

@schmetterling4477

26 күн бұрын

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27 күн бұрын

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27 күн бұрын

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27 күн бұрын

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This makes no sense.

@AshtonCoolman

27 күн бұрын

It makes complete sense.

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27 күн бұрын

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25 күн бұрын

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@girlofanimation

23 күн бұрын

Both no sense and total sense

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Extremely cool!

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Thanks for this examination of quantum foundations!

There's been past work testing quantum foundations using bottom quarks (Belle) as with photons in ultra-peripheral collisions in heavy ions (RHIC/Alice)

One of your best videos ever!

Love your channel ✨✨✨

It reminds me of capillary waves in oceans. at their small scale, surface tension is the dominant force, which combines them into larger wave packets. You're right to be excited about this research looking for the source of the effect of randomness

Thank you for your videos.

Hey 🙂 I love to watch your videos, but I find it sometimes hard to follow you with your current Mic setup. Is it possible for you to add a De-Esser Plugin to your audiomix, to cut some parts of the high frequencies?

Thank you, Sabine, for this vital observation: Two communities, each staying stagnant for lack of communication across the fences separating their mental territories. This systemic cause of unfruitfulness is affecting so many fields of human endeavor.

Brilliant video. Could use a bit more explanation of "decoupling of scales"... Are the inequalities for D like Bell inequalities?

Thanks for another good book tip!

Yes. Testing, testing testing. Take nothing for granted. Double/triple check everything, leave no stone unturned. This is science (or at least it should be). Thank you for info, Sabine!

@krox477

26 күн бұрын

What if tester is wrong

T'Hooft was my first-round draft pick for my Fantasy Physics team. (Or would be, if there was a fantasy physics league). By the way, I've got a cool idea for a new fantasy league... I admire the guy for keeping the hidden-variables dream alive.

@schmetterling4477

27 күн бұрын

You can tell when a physicist is aged out: he starts proposing things that can be ruled out at the undergrad level. It is sad to see that t'Hooft has reached that stage of his career.

I like the cellular ideas, always thought along similar lines.

Does the Cellular Automaton Interpretation have any issues with any requirement for an exponential-time algorithm?

Good analysis

It's also possible that instead of having lack of information we have lack of information. If the collapse of the Wave Function is a non computational process then it would look random to us humans even if it were fully Deterministic. Entanglement just means that once the randomness is eliminated then it disappears completely. This is analogue to how randomness actually works in Mathematics. Measuring the spin of the second particle is equivalent to measuring the spin of the first particle again so whereas it will look random to the second observer, the first observer can calculate it after removing the veil of randomness, there is no break of locality because there is no transfer of information since the second particle was always going to have opposite spin to whatever was measured in the first one.

@shugucchi

27 күн бұрын

I think that you are forgetting though, is that yes classically your statement is true but quantum mechanically it's not. Lets make a quantum system "Classical": If I have two spinning tops underneath cups both must be going in the opposite directions to each other then yes removing the cup from one is no different from removing the cup from the other you gain information about both. Now for a quantum system: In quantum mechanics until observed those spinning tops are simultaneously both spinning clockwise and anti-clockwise, observing collapses the wavefunction not only determining the left spinning top but the right spinning to too. That second spinning top must have gotten that information transferred to it instantly somehow. We have done experiments to literally show this top be true. I personally like the idea of ER = EPR, where entangled particles are connected by quantum wormholes such that the particles share a wavefunction that is connected by 2 points in space-time. Simply you can't' remove the veil of randomness as it is intrinsic to all interpretations of QM. Yes hidden variables could be the cause like pilot-wave theory, if we knew all the particles positions in the universe then we could theoretically map out what will happen in the future essentially Laplace's demon. I like to think of QM as truly random personally the followed by the determinism of the Schrodinger equation, which is many worlds theory.

@zemm9003

27 күн бұрын

​​@@shugucchino. The information was already there. It is just random to us, the same when we ask a special type of question in Math, therefore it is unpredictable. The spin of the second particle is predictable though. You misunderstand the usual notion of randomness, that has nothing to do with what I said, and true randomness as in the non existence of patterns. It's not that there are hidden variables, they aren't even hidden, we just don't understand them until we collapse the Wave Function.

@shugucchi

27 күн бұрын

@@zemm9003 I disagree, the very idea of the information already being there is exactly what a hidden variable theory is, it appears random because we can't see all the information. I believe there is no pattern, that wave function can exist in any state following some probability distribution, only once disturbed does it collapse into a determined state.

Excellent!

Brilliant video. Gerard d'Hooft has been and is one of the most deep thinking physicists of the last 30 years. Sabine, Dr. Hossenfelder, now please make a video about the progress of Verlinde's theory which tries to explain gravity as an emergent force of thermodynamics. It is also closely related to d'Hooft's major idea of the holographic principle (which in turn relates to Bekenstein's theory of maximum information in a given space).

I find myself in a superposition of entertained and informed!

Sorry a general question if you went fast enough into a very high gravity item and got to the middle, would you be okay then or what. You know, you would be in the middle and all the heavy material would be up from you

It’ll be GLORIOUS! 😄😄😄!

4:43 - Not only you. Several of my acquaintances from the days I still (kind of) did physics are or were active in various LHC collaborations. Their nightmare, too, is that their hardware pre-processors threw away some data that would turn the Standard model upside down. (They have that hardware simply because CERN computers, gigantic as they are, are not fast enough, or with enough storage, to save _everything_ )

This definitely deserve s more videos

Sabine in fine form, provoking thoughts on both sides.

I’m fascinated with hidden variable theories, and they don’t get enough attention. Thank you for covering this.

@schmetterling4477

26 күн бұрын

Why are you fascinated with bullshit? :-)

Exciting research. I’m relatively sure there is probably way more to quantum mechanics than currently understood. The current theories and models of quantum mechanics are relatively good at explaining the effects of quantum mechanics. Still, they are not very good at explaining fundamentally why it is happening or how it works. It sometimes looks like quantum particles maybe potentially have fewer restrictions in the space-time fabric in certain situations, but probably only if in a superposition where you can likely not measure it directly. If measured, the superposition state collapses, likely also ending all the fewer restrictions in the space-time fabric?

Not complaining because it is a mile over my head. I'm glad there are people smart enough to argue the fine points of this.

It's nice to hear someone not immediately rejecting things that don't follow a strict consensus of their current knowledge base as if it threatens their very existence. Thank you for raising attention.

At what scale ⚖️ does randomness decouple? And where can one stay above it?

Whenever you explain anything related to Quantum Mechanics I am both confused and not confused at the same time....and every state in between

You had me going at the joke about particle physicists at the end.😂😂😂

This healthy combination of physics and psychology is my perfect cup of tea. Thank you Sabine.

@axle.student

27 күн бұрын

Where/which part of the psychology are you alluding towards? Didn't really jump out at me.

Thank you so much, I've always been way more keen on superdeterminism and Pilot Wave, but hearing someone as intelligent and educated as you expressing interest in these ideas is very refreshing and validating. I appreciate everything you do.

5:08 😂 hahaha _Credit: Wammes Waggel_ ?? Wammes Waggel is a cartoon character in Olivier B. Bommel semi-comics series by the late Dutch writer Maarten Toonder. He's a goose that walks a bit wobbly (hence his name Waggel - waggel is Dutch for wobbling) 😂

Can you provide some papers where t'Hooft's idea is explained in detail? I'm intrigued that there are still post-Bell hidden variable enthusiasts, especially of such renown

Nothing to complain right here. - Great video as usual.

I do think the next big breakthrough in physics will come from studying quantum randomness, but I'm not sure if just looking at data hoping to find _something_ is a viable approach. We probably need a reasonably solid theory telling us what what we _expect_ to find. And that's where the "universe as a simulation" approach comes in. A lot of details of the human visual system made a lot more sense after we started doing digital image processing (things that were discovered by programmers and mathematicians, not biologists or ophthalmologists - but then turned out to have biological parallels that the latter probably wouldn't have found), and I suspect the same will be true about quantum randomness by developing (and studying the behaviour of) computer simulations - specifically things like the aliasing that occurs when internal calculations done at a certain level of precision get mapped onto lower-precision variables (rounding errors that often lead to some moiré-like patterns that might _appear_ completely random in small samples), and how simulations try to compensate for that. We might never be able to figure out the exact value of the "hidden variables", but we can probably figure out the scale of the rounding errors between them and the variables that we _do_ have access to (and maybe some of the patterns that those errors tend to follow, as well).

Come for the physics, stay for the humor. Love your content. ❤️