there's just something about a plane backing itself up that just never gets old! And holy shit that thing took off quick!

@ashleyosborne5500

2 жыл бұрын

Stol....the Cairbou IS STOL

@jfan4reva

2 жыл бұрын

Do you suppose they give discounted landing and takeoff fees for STOLs? ("Only used half the runway!")

@georgemancia.mancia3228

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah so quickly it looks like it doesn't Needs a runway. Increible.

@yourlocalaviation

2 жыл бұрын

@@jfan4reva no we don't charge less for stol take offs or landings

@yourlocalaviation

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashleyosborne5500 this is the younger sister of the caribou

When I was in Vietnam in 67 to 68 I was amazed how they would come down fast and furious just a few feet from the ground and unloading there cargo when they could not land because of the enemy attacking the area. There was a Carabou also that was similar to the Buffalo. There was also a one engine aircraft that was also a Canadian made aircraft called the Beaver and Otter. Saw both of them in the states and had the pleasure to get a ride in the Otter.

@ashleyosborne5500

2 жыл бұрын

She is unique

@PeterNGloor

19 күн бұрын

@@ashleyosborne5500 I rode in a turbo Otter, very nice old airplane.

No cheesy music. no commentary. no popup notifications. sweet airplane. I love it!

@robertc2204

4 жыл бұрын

Right! I love this. I listened turned way up in my Dolby atmos... Sounds like such a badass BEAST like I'm right there on the tarmac 😎💪😎💪

@vanithasv9489

3 жыл бұрын

OK

De Havilland, one of world’s greatest and best aircraft builders! This superb aircraft is part of the memory of my military career.

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

They've definitely made some great aircraft over the years. Going to miss the CC-115's once they're retired.

I am a Brazilian military man and had the honor of flying a lot on this aircraft in the Brazilian Amazon. It is a magnificent airplane. I was the CC-115 Flight Communications. Today, I am retired. Miss you!

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

Very nice, that must have been a lot of fun working in the CC-115!

@sindereses

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheHDAviation Too much!

@michelsouzaqwerty

Жыл бұрын

Esquadrão Arara daqui de Manaus.

That plane did not want to stay on the ground. The pilot barley even had to pull back on the yoke. Canadian engineering at its finest. Beautiful aircraft!

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

Love the Buffalo, it's really impressive to see how little runway they use.

My dad was stationed in Summerside in the 70's. When I was 12 he put me on the Buffalo to fly to Torbay Nefoundland to see my grand parents. I was the only passenger. The pilot called me up to the cockpit to take the controls just off Cape Breton flew for a half hour. What a great memory. Thanks

I retired from DeHavilland/Bombardier in 2002.Started on the Buffalo line assembling the control cable system on it, eventually wound up in Production Test Flt. as a Flight Service Engineer.I saw some great 'Dog and Pony' demos to customers that were mind boggling. When it first starts up from the APU power, there are three distinctive sounds, if you listen for them.First is the starter turbine winding up, then the engine turbine's start wind up, then the power turbine turning the propeller.After my first flight in the 'Buff' , someone asked me: "Well, how was it?" My answer?"MAACHIIINE!!!!"THIS shortly after a 'Twotter' flight.

@hayer70

5 жыл бұрын

Melvin Goddard this aircraft looks like a caribou....

@thundercactus

Жыл бұрын

@@hayer70 it's a BUFFALO! The upgraded Caribou. CF retired Caribous in 1971

I had the privilege of flying these aircraft in Southern Sudan, Congo and a few other interesting spots in Africa. This was after they were decommissioned from the Canadian airforce. We had one in the original S&R colors and I wonder if it could have been this one? The number 457 rings a bell. That was the most fun I've had flying anything in my 28 years of aviation.

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

Very cool, that must have been some fun flying you got to do over there!

@oscarwindham6016

Жыл бұрын

That thing got off the ground quick.

@jamesstephenpeyton3305

8 ай бұрын

Any deHavilland Canadian plane is fun to fly. Haven’t flown them all but the ones I did fly made aviation all worth while

@spikenicholls9507

6 ай бұрын

It sure was ! 👍😜💯✅ Spike

That is an awesome aircraft. It seems to levitate when you are not looking. It does not even have to be in a "nose up" attitude to get airborne. They don't make them like THAT anymore. Amazing!!

@TheHDAviation

2 жыл бұрын

There's really nothing quite like the Buffalo. I already miss seeing them around.

Seven seconds to start of roll to liftoff? Impressive.

This is an old airframe, but she has proven her worth time and time again. What a workhorse. Nice upload.

@spurgear4

4 жыл бұрын

1967 , I worked on 57 many times.

This video brings back wonderful memories, I served in 442 Squadron, out of Comox, B.C. Notice how immaculate the aircraft is, and considering how old it is and the tough flying it has been subjected to, a testament to the professionalism of all the crews. This aircraft is tasked in flying long missions in the most rugged terrain, not above, but down the valleys between mountains, 8 hours flights for days on end regular practice. And for anyone who knows BC, the weather can be rough. But they have to go out there not because they want to, but to save lives. I've been in a Buffalo (who knows, maybe that very aircraft) when a short takeoff was performed. I was sitting in the observer seat, watched the wheels start to roll, glanced ahead, back down, and the wheels were already clear of the ground. Impressive. But that takeoff had a lot of safety margin, it was a civil airport, there was no need to push the luck, imagine this aircraft performing a full emergency takeoff, balls to the walls.

@xairman565

4 жыл бұрын

David Killens when were you in Comox? I was there 91-94. I remember we used to watch these come in on approach on the runway in front of the hangars. It seemed like watching a normal landing in slow motion when they configured for a STOL landing.

The Otter, Beaver, Caribu and Buffalo. the gold standard in ruggest STOL aircraft for rough, remote access. Flew with the Australian Army in Caribu in Vietnam. If ever there was an aircraft screaming for a turbo prop conversion that was it. They seemed to just hang in the sky when needed and we could drop down for a pickup faster than any rotary aircraft. We would come in and put the nose wheel on the grass and slam the rest down. Fill it up with whatever and be gone in 30 seconds. Amazing.

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, DeHavilland made some great aircraft over the years. Wish I would have spotted a Caribou, they look really interesting.

Indeed, practical Canadian Aerospace engineering at its best.

Wow! I have never seen an airplane enter the runway in reverse even in a video and I'm a pilot. What a lovely plane, I wish I could fly it someday. It was airborne in less than 10 seconds!

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely interesting to see an aircraft reversing u under its own power. First time I had seen that as well!

I call it the Amazing Buffalo, The military is going to miss this heavy lifter, best ever by DHC

@TheHDAviation

2 жыл бұрын

It's really sad to see the Buffalo gone from the RCAF, I'm sure they're greatly missed already.

Also Thank You for letting the Buffalo sing the sound track!

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

I could never cover up the sound of those props!

@oldgoatroper7030

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheHDAviation Absolutely agree! I lived in Courtenay/Comox for five years and you could always discern between a Buffalo and an Aurora as the Buff props have a deeper, unhurried and more purposeful, resolute note -- even at a distance.

@robertc2204

4 жыл бұрын

Amen to that... No cheesy clickety clack ticky tackin new age Tecno ghetto crap. People that do that is like adding finger paint on a Mona Lisa... You just don't do it

@robertc2204

4 жыл бұрын

13:10-13:25 with the Dolby Atmos surround sound cranked up.... Pure heaven!

What a beauty. First, I love turbo props, second, it looks like it was airborne after something like a 150 foot takeoff roll with full flaps. Wait, I got to wipe a tear out of my eye.

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

Love the Buffalo, one awesome aircraft. I'm going to be sad when the RCAF retires them.

WOW!! Canadian enginering at its finest, bombardier classic aircraft reversing all the way to the taxi way and a short take off kudos to the pilot and his crew credit to the videographer that captured the background Beautiful Canada 🇨🇦

@TheHDAviation

2 жыл бұрын

It's always nice to see these classic turboprops, I'n going to miss the Buffalo's once they've all been retired from the RCAF. Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video!

Man, that was the longest minute and 23 seconds until the right prop started spinning. Beautiful airplane!!!

When I was working at an FBO at CYUL in the 80's, they had a twin otter that had damaged it's nose gear in a downwind landing that went too long, they patched up the plane removed the damaged nose gear loaded the front of the plane with many cases of beer and the plane had such an aft C of G, the nose was pointing up in the air, they flew it from Frobisher Bay to Monteal and when they landed they could taxi to the ramp but there was no way to hookup a mule, so the Chief Pilot jumped in abd backed the crippled otter backwards into the hanger, Allways a joy to see your very professional vids

My Grandfather flew these for Search and Rescue. Had loads of pictures and medals galore all over his office from both RCAF and search and rescue after. I still think they're the coolest looking planes I've ever seen.

@TheHDAviation

Жыл бұрын

That's really cool your Grandfather used to fly the CC-115, that must have been a really exciting careers. I've always loved seeing the Buffalo in action, I miss them now that they're gone.

@k1ng5urfer

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHDAviation It was super cool, but he never talked much about it, he was always to busy teaching me how to win at cards haha. I wish I'd gotten to know more. He must have had a million stories. I found out recently years after he passed now that he was part of the Prisendam rescue and thats why he received his OMM. That's one I really wish I'd had the chance to ask him about. I definitely share the feelings on the Buffalo, damn shame to see them go. They will be fondly remembered for sure.

This is a gliding Teddybear with some awesome turboprop engines mounted.

I flew a lot at the time that I served the Brazilian Army in one of these, Brazil was the biggest operator of this aircraft and allowed it to be produced in series, it landed on improvised runways in the middle of the Amazon jungle, good times.

@TheHDAviation

2 жыл бұрын

Very nice, that must have been really interesting getting to fly so much in the DHC-5! They were always my favourite visitor into my local airport. Unfortunately they have just been retired from the Royal Canadian Air Force. They will be missed!

@SociedadeAutomotiva

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheHDAviation Yes they will be greatly missed

The shortes take off i ever seen amazing.

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

I'm always amazed how little runway the DHC-5 uses.

Brazilian Air Force used to operate this model. There will never be another aircraft with a STOL capability like that!

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

They're are awesome machines, I'm really sad the RCAF is retiring them this year.

Wow,fantastic close up´s!Thank´s for sharing!Huge LIKE!Greetings!

Talk about STOL, that was quick.👍👍I used to work at Douglas Aircraft in the 60’s outside of Toronto and we watched DeHavilland Dash 7’s take off right next to us, they were really impressive with short take offs.

Wow, that was great! I was fortunate to fly in a Buffalo many years ago when I was training as an AME at Confederation College in Thunder Bay. The took us up for spotter training as part of a bush survival course. To this day I remember the amazing take off and landing capabilities of this plane. We did a forced approach landing that was truly something to experience. After an hour or so of steep turns looking for a big red X in the bush, most of us returned looking rather green. Did manage to hold it together though :) Great video .. thanks for posting.

I love the crewman popping out if the fuselage when the plane reverses, no need for rear view mirrors or a backup camera and they had the rear hatch open as well. I'm impressed at how far he moved in reverse.

love the sound of the turboprops at the end.

You guys must've been as light as a popcorn fart....! I've never seen a 13 second takeoff roll before.... From brake release to wheels off the ground....! 13 SECONDS....! Impressive aircraft! Thanks for a nice Vid and a demonstration of crew coordination with the display of ground handling in reverse as well....! Gordon

i still feel the excited fascination of a child watching these magnificent machines do their thing.

Now THAT was a short take off. I wasnt too sure I really saw what I saw. Very impressive. Beautiful design. Beautiful bird. Thanks for sharing this with us.

Beautiful video of a beautiful airplane!! I worked with aircraft #457 in Trenton Ontario 437 Squadron, 1972 to 1976!!! That just shows you hold old the CC115 is!! Still a dependable workhorse all these years later! And of course the STOL takeoff is always so impressive!! Thank you!!

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Robert Nelson That is very cool that you worked on this exact aircraft, and she is still looking great to this day! I hope the might CC-115's will get to keep flying for many years to come with the RCAF. Thanks very much for watching!

That's a tasty looking airplane and an incredibly short take off.

We used to see the old Caribou here in Australia but sadly it is gone from our skies as the R.A.A.F no longer flies them . used to love the sound it made and its take off and landing was always impressive !

Awesome, very rare in Europe! Love the reversing bit, such an amazing sound!

Phenomenal...!!! Reverse, and take off in 50 feet....WOOOW.

@sylvainduhamel8093

4 жыл бұрын

I had the chance to work on this aircraft as an electrician and let me tell you that the "short landing" is even more impressive when you have the chance to live it from on boeard !

Brilliant video work.

Pretty nice plane. It's quick take-off is really amazing!

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

I'm always amazed at how little runway the Buffalo uses!

Incredible STOL performance! Wild that such a large aircraft can take off so quickly; De Havilland sure does know how to shorten a takeoff run.

They should never get rid of these aircraft, the most well designed short field take off aircraft ever made.

@TheHDAviation

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the RCAF retired their last DHC-5 is January. It's too bad they let these impressive aircraft go, I wish they would have developed a DHC-5 NG.

You have filmed as ive already said before one of my favourite aircraft ever made by De Havilland. That head on shot and then it reversing under its own power. Stunning. Absolutely great shot mate. Liked (alot) :)

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Jonathan Winton Thanks so much! I love the DHC-5 as well, it truly is an impressive aircraft. Definitely my favorite visitor that ever stops by CZNL.

Wonderful video to watch. Brilliant reverse, and amazingly short take off! Love it!

@TheHDAviation

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video!

amazing sound and the background with the first blood style mountains

Had to watch that take off 3 times...ridiculous! Damn impressive aircraft and flight crew!

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

I'm always impressed at how little runway the Buffalo uses. One awesome aircraft.

Spectacular video!!!! Good Word. Saludos desde Argentina

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Facundo Rovira Thanks very much!

@Laos_spotter

8 жыл бұрын

+TheHDAviation เดิ

Amazing short take off.What a powerful aircraft.!!!

@johnkorn6698

8 жыл бұрын

+Jorge Calvo I was just thinking the same thing!

@tituschad1144

7 жыл бұрын

Hats off to the pilot also. What skill. w

@Gilbertory

5 жыл бұрын

Is it it's power or the technology in it?

Really proud to see how powerful this aircraft can do a short take off! I work at DAC aviation and one of the aircraft technicians who do the R&O for the CT 64 engines of DHC-5. Great video!

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Isagani Cura Ya, they certainly can perform an impressively short takeoff. Always cool to see! Thanks very much for watching.

Amazing Turboprop sound ... love it. How cool is that ... reverse and pilot on top! That´s the best video I watched today on KZread. Happy New Year!

Great video. Reversing was cool. And that takeoff? Amazing. Thanks for this.

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Dang, that is an impressive take off, unbelievable!

@herc1305

5 жыл бұрын

It dipped nose down on take off. They were really pushing it. Not sure how I feel about that.

Thanks for the video!

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I have never seen a plane back up on it’s own before..awesome aircraft.

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

This was the first time I witnessed that as well. Love the DHC-5!

A truly impressive aircraft!! I saw it flight demo'ed at the Oregon Airshow about 10 years ago by the RCAF. WOW!! It climbs without really pitching up. And the STOL landing demo was crazy. Yes, it was empty, but still. The Dash-8 Q200 and Q400 series take after the same DNA and they can do some of the same feats. Saw Q200 displayed by Horizon Air at the same show. Very impressive overall airframes

@rpm1796

2 жыл бұрын

Wow indeed Gray. My Dad was RCAF The whole thing is a very dirty story....the manipulated total destruction of a priemier aviation industry. What country in their right minds would undermine her national gems?

офигеть у вас шкафы задом ездиют, с места взлетают, респект и уважуха!

@user-im6kq1lj4h

5 жыл бұрын

Очень многие ВС могут ездить задним ходом, а дистанция разбега зависит от загрузки ВС, режима работы двигателей и ветра.

Brought me back in time when the Bou was everything. I could see every change made to this model and it is impressive. I still love my Bous wherever they are scattered and still exist.

@TheHDAviation

7 жыл бұрын

I love the old Buffalo as well, one of my favourite aircraft to see.

11 seconds from stand-still to airborne! Amazing.

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

It always amazes me!

Fantastic!!! De Havilland of Canada is DEEPLY missed... 😟

@rpm1796

4 жыл бұрын

Deeply.....another deliberate trashing on the Ontario aircraft industry.

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Жыл бұрын

@@rpm1796 We almost lost SPAR Aerospace a while back too.

If it weren't so cococold in Canada, I would move there. So beautiful.

Amazing! Unbelievable short take off!

Nice sound,no overheating,turbo is functioning well.

Flying a Buffalo: When should we rotate? (already airborn)

Love that airplane - got to ride in one a few times in the Amazon with the Brazilian Airforce! 4000kilos payload on a 900 meter strip.

i love theses style of props

amazingly short take off. what a machine!

I love aviation! I wish I could fly everything once! Some stuff a lot more than once!

That´s a canadian aircraft for sure. It can operate out of a Tim Hortons parking lot

@amerigo88

7 жыл бұрын

The Canadian general told his pilot, "Take it to the Tim Horton's off Mackenzie Road and come back with two coffees, two sugars, a cruller, and a bear claw. Taxi over to the Shell station, clean the windscreen, then be back here in 20 minutes. I've got a golf game in Ottawa right after lunch and we have to move. Got it?"

@Rick1885

7 жыл бұрын

volki1970 This has to be the most Canadian comment I've ever read.

@prestonsnowbird5410

7 жыл бұрын

That would be surprise that Buffalo plane landing on parking lot.

@Evancho08

6 жыл бұрын

HAHA

@daveclarke5766

5 жыл бұрын

Too funny, makes me proud to be a canuck

I don't know much about planes, but the way that beast lifted from 13:15 to 13:17.....wow. Crazy impressive.

Cada vez que veo este excelente vídeo me relaja, lindo avión, bellísimo paisaje... Qué ganas de estar allá, saludos

That little sweetheart sitting quietly in the back left is C-FZYZ, a 1956 Cessna 180.

Very cool video, I liked the way that the aircraft could perform its own push back by using a different pitch on the props. That was also o very short take off. Very impresssive.

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Francis Bailey Thanks! This was the first time I had ever seen an aircraft perform its own push-back in person. Definitely cool! Thanks for watching.

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman

8 жыл бұрын

+TheHDAviation I am a bit surprised that they can back up that much using propeller reversing and not have issues with engine oil temperature....

@francisbailey3831

8 жыл бұрын

+RocKiteman_ _2001 I can see why they could be an oil temperature problem, as there is no air being push back over the engines to keep the oil temp down for the period of time used for the push back. Where was that taped at.....???? I am an aircraft buff my self.

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman

8 жыл бұрын

+Francis Bailey Correct. I do not know that much about the Buffalo. however, I was an HC-130 Hercules aircrewman in the US Coast Guard for about five years. On the {pre-J-model} Herks, the engine oil cooler is located in the bottom of the engine nacelle. When the props go into reverse, the oil coolers lose most - or all - of the airflow going through them, & the oil temperature starts creeping up.

@xpeterson

7 жыл бұрын

I heard of a bet between a couple pilots on a 4 engine turbo prop without reversible blades. The bet went something to the effect of: "I bet you I can back up this plane" "how, it doesnt have reverse?" "do you want to take the bet or not?" The pilot then proceeded to put full brake on the right wheel and throttled up the right outboard engine, then the left brake and left outboard engine, until he wiggled the plane back. No clue if the story is true or not, but I thought it was interesting.

Incredible airplane and awesome video.... I flew with CASARA as a spotter and navigator for 3.5 years... qualified as a spotter on the Buff and the Herc.... great memories... thanks for posting....

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+gchyz That's really interesting, must have been an exciting experience working with the Buffalo. Thanks very much for watching!

What a beautiful location, stunning scenery.

@TheHDAviation

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, CZNL has some great scenery surrounding it. Thanks for watching!

I suggest headphones use, specially at the takeoff, after 12:58. Don´t miss!!

@robertc2204

3 жыл бұрын

Fucking badass especially in dolby atmos

@toasterhavingabath6980

3 жыл бұрын

I GOT A FUCKING HEINZ AD-

Congratulations from Brasil, it´s a very good film: nice airplane, impressive back-taxi, great take-off images in a very beautiful place. The sound is also great. Thanks very much for sharing!!

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Jose Marmontel Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

One of the best video, on internet!

Loved the buffalo bow on take off = brilliant :) thanks for sharing !!!

I love it! Great catch Jesse! This is one very rare aircraft!

@TheHDAviation

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot, this one was awesome to see. I miss the old Buffalo.

@TheFalconCrusader

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome 🤗

DE Havilland of Canada is back....hooray

Looks like a Caribou to me, never knew they has gas turbines

@TheHDAviation

3 ай бұрын

Yes, the Buffalo looks very similar to the Caribou. It’s like it’s younger brother with turbine engines.

There is one in the Comox Valley. I love listening to it fly overhead. Those engines just purr.

Amazing and beautiful too ❤️

An amazing aircraft in top condition filmed wonderfully as well. Really enjoyed this vid. Thanks

@TheHDAviation

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video!

Legendary STOL beast. Amazing aircraft.

Excellent! Thanks for sharing.

I watch a lot of aviation vids online. This is a good one. Wonderful aircraft and great setting. Looks like Nelson, BC. Anway, well done, sir.

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Pete Watson Thanks very much for watching, I'm really glad you enjoyed the video!

@RePete02

8 жыл бұрын

+James Mason I thought I recognized the bridge but hey, I live in Mexico now and it's been a long time, so it could be Yale.

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Pete Watson You're right, this was filmed in Nelson.

Thanks a lot for this wonderful catch. The ground manoeuvering is really impressive. And the family relation to the Caribou cannot be denied, both in terms of looks and performance. But you wonder why he taxied all the way back to the end of the runway, when he only needs 200 m or so of ground roll.

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+pinkdispatcher Thanks very much, it was really neat to see the maneuvering indeed! The Buffalo really does look very similar to its older brother. The Caribou is an aircraft I always wish I had the chance to film, but I don't think that will happen now.

Brilliant to watch love the reversing

@TheHDAviation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video!

Great reverse and short take off - awesone aircraft

Nice of them to add a Sun Roof...

For something so big and ugly that baby practically jumps into the air! Love it.

@davecrupel2817

7 жыл бұрын

LDSloan "she may not look like much, kid. But she's got it where it counts."

@richardwedge854

7 жыл бұрын

LDSloan

@kelsdon01

6 жыл бұрын

She was unloaded. Only SAR Kit. But I will never dish a 'bou, unless I have to sit in another on a Short Landing. Help me find my eyes?

it's just floats off into the sky, nice!

Thank you for sharing...what a short take off!

@TheHDAviation

8 жыл бұрын

+Erdinç Yavuz Thanks very much for watching! I'm always impressed by the take off performance of the CC-115.

Caraca meu! Subiu com 30 metros de pista!👏👏👏👏👏

8 seconds to lift-off!....increadible.

Really amazing sound!

So impressive! Within 15 seconds on the runway and they are already airborne!

@TheHDAviation

6 жыл бұрын

I'm always impressed with how little runway the Buffalo uses!