Cauda Equina Syndrome vs Conus Medullaris Syndrome EXPLAINED

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  • @user-mk8bl1uc8x
    @user-mk8bl1uc8x5 жыл бұрын

    AWESOME VIDEO! It cleared concepts I didn't know I was lacking! Thank you so much for making this video.

  • @gissellamartinez3005
    @gissellamartinez30052 жыл бұрын

    I can finally understand the topic. I was very confused about the differences, but you explained it in a wonderful way. Thank u!

  • @tinahendricks917
    @tinahendricks9174 жыл бұрын

    i have come back to this video again and again it is the best explanation of this differentiation i have ever seen

  • @sijalrupakheti9399
    @sijalrupakheti93993 жыл бұрын

    Very detailed and clear. I will never forget this now. Thank you!

  • @dinithiwanigasekara7102
    @dinithiwanigasekara71023 жыл бұрын

    Really awesome video! This area was never clear to me before and you have explained it in such a simple way!

  • @SamSampeMana
    @SamSampeMana3 жыл бұрын

    you're doing a great job sir! much gratitude, thank you!

  • @amitsinha4814
    @amitsinha48144 жыл бұрын

    Superb , marvellous ...as a surgery resident ...i m thankful to you for clearing all my concepts .. !!

  • @manalshahid1148
    @manalshahid11484 жыл бұрын

    Wow after yrs of medical education finally I got the concept of these topics👍🏻

  • @leticiacampoverde4420
    @leticiacampoverde44204 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful work. I nerver understood this topic until now :)

  • @robertopalazzolo9140
    @robertopalazzolo91403 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you so much for explaining that. In lots of books or also internet, like Wikipedia etc, I didn't find all the differentiation of these two syndromes. But thanks to this video now I have a clear idea of how to differentiate these

  • @kentchong8650
    @kentchong86506 жыл бұрын

    Well explained! Thanks for the effort!

  • @AK-ez7hk
    @AK-ez7hk3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this so much easy to understand.🔥

  • @dawoodsohail5049
    @dawoodsohail50496 жыл бұрын

    so good man!!! ive had so much trouble with this topic till now.. you've explained it brilliantly! bravo

  • @DrPilot23
    @DrPilot23 Жыл бұрын

    this is a PAID quality lecture. well done!!

  • @lisa5483
    @lisa54835 жыл бұрын

    This is great! Thank you!

  • @lurodriguez1
    @lurodriguez14 жыл бұрын

    A+ on this video! Thank you for the explanation

  • @introvertedbookkeeper9447
    @introvertedbookkeeper94475 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much for this!!

  • @TimdubW
    @TimdubW4 жыл бұрын

    sick video mate, helped me so much!

  • @meghanas7779
    @meghanas77795 жыл бұрын

    Very well put, thank you😊

  • @muhammadalikhan6474
    @muhammadalikhan6474 Жыл бұрын

    Crystal clear concept Thanks

  • @drmeenakshiponmudi4596
    @drmeenakshiponmudi45965 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful explanation

  • @shilpa1553
    @shilpa15534 жыл бұрын

    nice effort! A brief yet explainatory video...

  • @sashagenis
    @sashagenis3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this amazing explanation!!! :)

  • @sunandkumarn.n1444
    @sunandkumarn.n14443 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video...clearly understood

  • @eagleeye9549
    @eagleeye9549 Жыл бұрын

    I have had two lower decompressions and ended up with CES both times and it sucks! I Lost control of my bladder and bowels the second time and had to learn to sit up and walk with a lot of of pain! And it's been almost six months and self-catheterization and shitting myself several times a day. I'm praying that it will get better. The first time just the numbness in the saddle area. After watching this video I am deducing that I have both...

  • @reemaanjum1370
    @reemaanjum13706 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much

  • @user-om9es4co6c
    @user-om9es4co6c Жыл бұрын

    great video, thank you

  • @tharikaneelawathura7240
    @tharikaneelawathura72406 ай бұрын

    Very well explained ❤

  • @chrisdom7731
    @chrisdom77316 жыл бұрын

    This was really helpful and helped my understanding of the topic tremendously. Thank you =D

  • @melofficial97
    @melofficial9711 ай бұрын

    GREAT explanation. thank you

  • @ajitmadhual1511
    @ajitmadhual15114 жыл бұрын

    Awesome explanation

  • @user-vi2tc3eb5o
    @user-vi2tc3eb5o6 жыл бұрын

    great one!

  • @sapnapk7501
    @sapnapk7501 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful,clear explanation.thank u.

  • @vijayanand2211
    @vijayanand22115 жыл бұрын

    Awsme explanation... loved it

  • @docdiaries8866
    @docdiaries88662 жыл бұрын

    Thank you..!!

  • @musfirahfareed968
    @musfirahfareed9683 жыл бұрын

    best explanation

  • @thisisnotreal2211
    @thisisnotreal22112 жыл бұрын

    Great , thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️

  • @MedMessyNotes

    @MedMessyNotes

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @uttambhatta95
    @uttambhatta955 жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot....

  • @Moonzari
    @Moonzari5 жыл бұрын

    I was diagnosed with Cauda Equina Syndrome and am now relearning to walk and have complete paralysis in my feet. No feeling in my saddle area, trouble with my bladder and bowel. It’s serious. I ignored symptoms for so long until I had lost complete function and it became a surgical emergency. Get help before you get to that point.

  • @foxfur8327

    @foxfur8327

    4 жыл бұрын

    The problem is that no neurologist wants to do the operation because they fear it will make things worse (if there is such a thing as worse, ) but they will give you opiods for the rest of your life.

  • @albanymountainhomestead

    @albanymountainhomestead

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@foxfur8327 if opioids improve a patient's quality of life, then it's a risk patients are willing to live with, since nerve damage is permanent.

  • @mgreene011

    @mgreene011

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@albanymountainhomestead I believe that I had Cauda Equia but it was missed. I have very little feeling in my testicles and my feet hurt all the time.Stretching has helped and strengthening my core has helped, but I still have pain during ejaculation and can feel Nothing on the right side of my genitals. My butt is also pretty numb.

  • @albanymountainhomestead

    @albanymountainhomestead

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mgreene011 I'm sorry your hurting, I have painful numbness from my upper ribs to my toes (half of my body) so I understand your pain. I hope you find relief soon.

  • @mgreene011

    @mgreene011

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@albanymountainhomestead Thank you. And you as well.

  • @aamir7790
    @aamir77904 жыл бұрын

    in month of Dec2019 ,I faced CES surgery , but now some portion of lower back ,sensory do not working still..can any expert guide to recover this ,

  • @step_zero
    @step_zero4 жыл бұрын

    very nice !

  • @novu16
    @novu164 жыл бұрын

    why does cms not affect lumbar plexus if cms is part of spinal cord then a lesion there would be upper motor and should have loss of function below cms which includes both lumber and sacral, can some one explain pls

  • @bangpinkfandom1105
    @bangpinkfandom11053 жыл бұрын

    When ever i watch this vlog regarding spinal disorders i became very stressed and depressed because i have some kind of spine ailment. I saw this vlog by mistake.

  • @Dr-Shlomo-Cohen
    @Dr-Shlomo-Cohen Жыл бұрын

    If caudal equina is peripheral nerves and not cns, how do we explain the fact that its before ganglion (synapses) after the foramina?

  • @10thtan
    @10thtan4 жыл бұрын

    you're a champ

  • @MedMessyNotes

    @MedMessyNotes

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, no. You're the champ!

  • @yelyab1
    @yelyab13 жыл бұрын

    Impacted how? Arthritis, bulging disk, swollen spinal cord? What is causing the the symptoms when more than one is present in imaging? When patient is in pain why isn’t pain medication given to allow mobility instead of spinal injection as a primary treatment which is not very effective and cannot be used to facilitate a normal daily routine. Are patients with this syndrome expected to suffer as a contribution to the opioid crisis?

  • @tinacollins943
    @tinacollins9434 жыл бұрын

    I have L5S1 and 6 I can’t hold my bowels or urine my discs burst backward and severed my nerves is this why I have this problem

  • @Purple_Med
    @Purple_Med Жыл бұрын

    Thank youuuu

  • @ankitshrivastava5655
    @ankitshrivastava56556 жыл бұрын

    Sir, 2 months back, i generated symptoms like...needling in genital part and in buttocks. At the same time, i had problem with erection and proper control on peeing. By proper control on peeing, i mean i was able to retain the pee and release it but in releasing, in the last, i had no control to jerk the pee out of body. The symptoms were gone in 3-4 days then. But since 4 days, the symptoms appeared again. I have needling in genital part, erection problem and not proper flow of urine with burning sensation. Is it a sign of cauda equina syndrome?

  • @prateekbali4396

    @prateekbali4396

    4 жыл бұрын

    this dude gotta be trollin

  • @ninagraceacosta6606
    @ninagraceacosta6606 Жыл бұрын

    What can i do to regain my bladder and bowel...cause of Conus Modullaris syndrome

  • @dr.noir27
    @dr.noir275 жыл бұрын

    bulbocavernous decreases in ces , just like other reflexes such patellar , ankle, detrusor , cremastric !!

  • @Ri-yf5oq
    @Ri-yf5oq4 жыл бұрын

    Crystal clear

  • @janecope6434
    @janecope6434 Жыл бұрын

    I've had back pain for 5 years its now effecting my legs, there in a lot of pain when i walk will it be my spine making them painful

  • @josipag2185
    @josipag21852 жыл бұрын

    Good job, wish you explaind just a bit more abiut etiology mention the key thing as reflexes are that can be distinguish more objetive in radiculopathy and in general and because of forming plexus other things are overlaping always, that achiles reflex is missing and patelar reflex is there in conus syndrome. Also, bilateral like you said, in real life is not always simetrical due to its etiology and well it is not complete medular section nor hemisection - also it can cause also sensory sistem disociation loosing TA, but like you said perfect comes in the test only.

  • @fatimamajid9870
    @fatimamajid98706 жыл бұрын

    A fantastic explanation !! You mad it so much easy thank you .. but The bulbocavernosus reflex (S2-S4) is absent in conus medullaris syndrome !!! You said it preserved how ???

  • @MedMessyNotes

    @MedMessyNotes

    6 жыл бұрын

    The presence of a bulbocavernosus reflex (BCR) is indicative of an intact S2-S4 spinal reflex. Moreover, an absent BCR indicates a LMN lesion while an intact BCR indicates an UMN lesion (if you're differentiating between UMN and LMN lesions because an intact BCR is obviously normal). So cauda equina will have an absent BCR if the sacral segments are impacted since it is a LMN pathology. Conus medullaris can have a preserved BCR since it has UMN in addition to LMN. So, while it is not cut and dry, conus medullaris is more likely to show a preserved BCR while cauda equina is more likely to show a diminished BCR.

  • @fatimamajid9870

    @fatimamajid9870

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dr. My Messy Notes that was so much clarified .. thank you for the answering :)

  • @hedayaalmilad7186

    @hedayaalmilad7186

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MedMessyNotes but the bulbocavernous reflex is polysynaptic. It is absent in both UMN and LMN lesions.

  • @MedMessyNotes

    @MedMessyNotes

    4 жыл бұрын

    pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29423307/

  • @DougKremer

    @DougKremer

    3 жыл бұрын

    The BCR is reflex arc is fully contained in the lower cord, CES breaks it, but CMS happens above it.

  • @bruceb4679
    @bruceb46792 ай бұрын

    How can I contact you ? I’m sure I have Cauda Equina , very concerned and doctors are not !!! I need help please!

  • @kalac6178
    @kalac61786 жыл бұрын

    Hii im confused about the part where the cauda equina syndrome affects lumbosacral roots while conus medullaris syndrome affects sacral cord segments and roots. Can anyone help to clarify this? thanks!

  • @aakashchoudhary8181

    @aakashchoudhary8181

    6 жыл бұрын

    Clara C conus medullaris is involving sacral part of spinal cord (distal most part) so will involve only sacral nerves exiting from there. In cauda equina, both lumbar and sacral nerves are involved (not the spinal cord part, only nerves thatswhy asymmetrical too).

  • @kalac6178

    @kalac6178

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @sosunbakr1217

    @sosunbakr1217

    4 жыл бұрын

    AAKASH CHOUDHARY cauda equina could be in trokal nerves?

  • @benda-annevanniekerk6833
    @benda-annevanniekerk683310 ай бұрын

    Just confused because aren’t S1 and S2 dermatomes going to be affected in conus medullaris - so then technically there would be lower limb sensory loss in those dermatomes?!

  • @abu-farhanrizvi1278
    @abu-farhanrizvi12784 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video ,,,,,DR RIZVI

  • @Fakhrihilmi69
    @Fakhrihilmi695 жыл бұрын

    i dont understand why CES is a medical emergency when other upper lesions ie thoracic myelopathy which can cause more devastating results are not an emergency. please help!

  • @ther1224

    @ther1224

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because if not treated immediately, it can cause incontinence or permanent paralysis. With regards to other UMNL, it will depend on the severity. if severe enough then it willl be considered a medical emerg. For thoracic myelopathy, what is the cause? And how severe? If the compression is little, then iit can’t be considered a medical emergency yet. I think it will depend on the presentation. Perform your quadrant scan, and based from your clinical findings and reasoning, decide on what next step is the best to do. (Refer back to physician, or emerg, continue conservative tx? )

  • @anmolshah5653
    @anmolshah56535 жыл бұрын

    Good effort Just wanted to clarify isn't bulbocavernosus superficial reflex ? Shouldn't it be absent in both? Plz correct me if wrong!!!

  • @MedMessyNotes

    @MedMessyNotes

    5 жыл бұрын

    I answered this somewhere else in this comment section if you scroll through, but in a nutshell: A diminished or absent BCR means that there is a LMN lesion. CES will show an absent BCR (if the lesion is in the sacral segments). However, while CMS may show an absent BCR, it is more likely than CES to show a preserved BCR due to the possibility of having a an isolated UMN lesion. So, on an exam, if there is ever a preserved BCR, the answer is likely to be CMS. BCR should not be your lifeline though. You will have other clues.

  • @anmolshah5653

    @anmolshah5653

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thnxx Dr . I tried to go by the Golden rule that superficial reflexes are always absent be it LMN or UMN. Thnxx for the reply sir.

  • @abyss8501
    @abyss85014 жыл бұрын

    use large and visible pointer..

  • @frankfromupstateny3796
    @frankfromupstateny37966 жыл бұрын

    So what does one do...whose been trying to "talk the talk for 20 years to physicians" about sexual numbness, bowel weaknesses,...etc? I feel like I'm talking to the "living dead" when discussing this...it's tough to do "in it's own right"...but physicians think I'm crazy?

  • @foxfur8327

    @foxfur8327

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, as with most everyone with this screaming spinal pain and inability to have a bowel movement more than once everyy 7 to 8 days without so much laxative it makes you violently ill. You might try to ask for a colostomy bag if you have no desire whatsoever to go and have severe 24 hour spinal and leg pain. I have never seen any solution to trigger the muscles that people need in order to be able to go, so most will suffer with extreme pain for many years. Another alternative will be that you will unexpectedly fill your pants from both ends when you go out. More doctors will understand when they themselves start doing this in front of their..patients.

  • @albanymountainhomestead

    @albanymountainhomestead

    4 жыл бұрын

    I too have the numbness to my female parts, which has little sensation.

  • @DougKremer
    @DougKremer3 жыл бұрын

    I'm developing symptoms of CESS from a L4/L5 central disc extrusion 12 years ago. I go to a Urologist to get everything in their realm checked out for exclusionary reasons. I explained whats going on, what I think it is, and we decide to do a full exam, for the first time ever in my life at 45. First pass is all good, then he thinks for a minute and says "I want to check some reflexes but I don't want to tell you what they are first because it might spoil the results, can you trust me and just go with it?" "Sure Doc" *BC reflex test stimulus*, pause, "hrmm" from him. *BC reflex test stimulus* multiple times. "hrmm" from him again. Me: "Are you expecting some sort of clown nose honk?" Dr: big laugh and he asks me to stand back up and then he explains the test and how I failed miserably, and that he is very concerned.

  • @morgancalvi6675
    @morgancalvi66754 жыл бұрын

    You're saying where things are...but not showing anything.But based on the comments, others seemed to get it. Am I missing something?

  • @MedMessyNotes

    @MedMessyNotes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea, I am showing it. Sorry that it's hard to see in this video. Try to look closely and you'll see it.

  • @morgancalvi6675

    @morgancalvi6675

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MedMessyNotes I got it....

  • @mello57
    @mello573 жыл бұрын

    bn

  • @rathasasnwridiman3483
    @rathasasnwridiman3483 Жыл бұрын

    wow bad hand writing but really great content