What do you think of this idea? What other ways could we clean up space?

@gauravmahadik4624

3 жыл бұрын

Was that real paint chip from Space Shuttle @ 0:20

@MildSatire

3 жыл бұрын

This is a seriously important issue and we need to get these into orbit ASAP

@viracocha2021

3 жыл бұрын

Use a tether system to either throw something out of orbit and lose potential energy, or crash something into the earth and gain potential energy. The good thing is that you don't need to be delicated at all and it's self sustainable.

@jrmex80

3 жыл бұрын

We can’t get the oceans clean but you’re worried about a computer generated world that only exists in the imaginary realm of comics and sci-fi nonsense.

@mightymouse1111

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's just going to take time for the debris to burn up or leave. Pulling down the big things is a great start but the small stuff is out of our hands now. I think any attempt to destroy/redirect the small stuff would be nearly negligible. But legislation and world agreements can help change how we approach space to stop the littering, as well.

This will be a real job in the future. Space janitors.

@puregold900

3 жыл бұрын

Give me the job easy I have just the tools.

@TheLastAlexander

3 жыл бұрын

Titan A.E

@yondel-kttkoh3948

3 жыл бұрын

I can definitely say this job will be taken by a drones. Again, why risk someone’s life if you can adapt a cam and a claw to a drone. They can also use laser to burn the debris.

@joeblack4436

3 жыл бұрын

@@yondel-kttkoh3948 So.. the drones are the broom. We can still call the job "Space Janitor"

@pcnazillpg5065

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastAlexander Planetes

Earth's iron dome defense system lol

"Space has become humanity's biggest junkyard" Oceans: Am I a joke to you?

@CptSpears007

3 жыл бұрын

I am so sick of this type of comment

@stinksorstonks1498

3 жыл бұрын

Its the biggest junkyard but not the most used. That's what he meant

@SlayneDaGreat

3 жыл бұрын

Dude really got offended by it... 😐 ok dude..

@jamisonpawley5822

3 жыл бұрын

@@SlayneDaGreat it's just that we see comments like this so much

@allseeingeye3182

3 жыл бұрын

@@SlayneDaGreat bc all the comments are just the same now its like shorts

Sorry, but I think the ocean is our biggest junkyard at this point. At least priority-wise.

@zylnexxd842

3 жыл бұрын

No

@wundex6065

3 жыл бұрын

@@zylnexxd842 that means we wouldve needed to send at least 5 million tons of spacecraft into space that would stay there we would need like 50 elon musks man.

@nanobits8665

3 жыл бұрын

well we sort of need space for our satellites, and for those to potentially be at use to survey and identify the features of the ocean. our satellites are also important priority-wise so we must somehow balance it out between dealing with the ocean while also cleaning up space junk to have more opportunities to use more technologies to better help us.

Put a giant fly strip in space to catch all the small pieces .

@andrewhofmann5453

3 жыл бұрын

Best idea yet.

@willymac5036

3 жыл бұрын

Magnetism would help to collect the metal debris pieces, but that would still leave tens of thousands of chips of paint, and pieces of plastic. But hey, it’s a start.

@puregold900

3 жыл бұрын

Not so silly

@marcelkwantes6479

3 жыл бұрын

Let’s get to it, these guys are looking at the big stuff, would be good to “mop up” the small stuff as well. You only have to defect them into the atmosphere 🤔

It seems to me that we should be able to create something capable of performing more than one mission. Perhaps something that could capture and then push the debris into an Earth burn trajectory, then go on to the next thing.

I love the old saying “air travel has made the world a much smaller place, but it’s still hard to miss if you fall”

They should remake a movie called "Salvage-1" Where a ragtag team of ex NASA employees and former astronauts build a ship to recover satellites, bring them back to earth, and mine their precious metals for top $.

@Cheezy_Bunz

3 жыл бұрын

I’d watch that

@dragonskunkstudio7582

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cheezy_Bunz It's on KZread.

@jayus2033

3 жыл бұрын

@@dragonskunkstudio7582 No it’s on Netflix

@inaminute1826

3 жыл бұрын

A dragon skunk😳🕵️

@dragonskunkstudio7582

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayus2033 Did I say it wasn't?

I can't comment enough on how great & underrated the content of this channel is. We need more minds!💕

@shealdedmon7027

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah to bad we don't have more minds. Then maybe you could get one!

Or you could simply shoot a "sticky sail tether" - 1 meter tube one end with super sticky contact adhesive the other deploys a several meter sail. The angle of the sail can be manipulated to cause appropriate drag and deorbit. Load up a satelite with a bunch of sticky sail tethers and deorbit a bunch of big stuff with one mission.

@FreshPeanutz

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine trying to stick something on onto an american football that has just been punted. Just hundreds/thousand times faster, and heavier. And keep in mind, you make the problem worse if you miss or a tiny piece breaks off. That is why they don't just shoot it out of orbit. Would be cheaper and easier. But failure is not an option.

@Geo-oe8ce

3 жыл бұрын

@@FreshPeanutz I imagine after matching the spin and velocity of that football, touching it with a sticky pole would be easier than grabbing it with 4 arms. 🤔

@SkylineFinesse

3 жыл бұрын

@@Geo-oe8ce your imagination is limited. What you said has already been done

@Geo-oe8ce

3 жыл бұрын

@@SkylineFinesse Really? Provide a link.

@SkylineFinesse

3 жыл бұрын

@@Geo-oe8ce no need for me to expend energy to find readily available information for some other person

Name it the space janitor Roger Wilco, the old Sierra game protagonist in Space quest

So simple: huge dyneema/kevlar spider web satellite orbiting in a lawnmower pattern, couple it to a Wall-E compacting system et voila.

Giant free electron lasers are the best way to deal with space debris. Smaller debris can be vaporized and larger things can be pushed to deorbit. Capturing and tugging to deorbit is too expensive and slow. Plus it only works on large objects.

I foresee the use of lasers to vaporize debris (such as the notorious paint chips) too small to tractor in to let the atmosphere do it, but this is a great project too, which (as the video points out) could be a powerful strategy for prevention of debris breaking down into smaller pieces requiring the lasers which haven't been developed yet.

This is Nolan's idea, dates back to 2014

100 mil to get one piece... something weird about that

@tuts351

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it should cost no more than an uber ride

@evannibbe9375

3 жыл бұрын

@@tuts351 I was thinking what would be reasonably priced would be to have glue and an airbag on the side of a Starlink satellite (way cheaper than this claw) sent along the opposite trajectory of the target, which then has both objects lose much of their velocity and fall to Earth

Just curious: why not use mesh net to capture debris than complicating by matching maneuver to use claws

Seems like it might be possible to use a probe with an electric drive and maybe several solid rockets for a bit larger velocity changes the idea would be to launch 100 or more of these and each one could redirect multiple objects not just one and burn, I get the idea of removing potential debris. Keep up the work

@Favorline

3 жыл бұрын

ya, I wrote a comment about this also. it is not possible to remove enough junk from space if they can only bring back one at a time. it has to be able to bring back more like 20+ each of them. since this year alone we have sent up 800 satellites. and the year is not even over yet.

Irony the mission collides into space junk and creates 1,000000 more debris exponentially causing a problem to get worse

They should have some sort of system up there for the debris & recycle it, bring it back down & do something else with it.

Great thought

You need a huge graphene net harder than diamonds 100 times stronger than steel. Always a good think on this channel. 🤟

I believe this is a good effort and very important eventually but as of now I think it would be much more intelligent to divert the large budgets of companies like this to thinking about what is going on here on Earth, for example our oceans and the waste that we are producing daily.

@carlosandleon

3 жыл бұрын

They're not mutually exclusive issues.

@kedrednael

3 жыл бұрын

We map (ocean) waste and pollution from orbit, so if we lose the satellites that will worsen pollution on earth as well.

@ilo3456

3 жыл бұрын

There is already people working on those things you know? It is not like it is one or the other, space is as critical to solving stuff down here as anything else, satellites provide us with reading and data required to find solutions to problems down here.

Great sci-fi movie. I like how space is ALWAYS computer generated images.

@merk8731

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Phatxual

3 жыл бұрын

Get your head out from under you.. LOL

@jrmex80

3 жыл бұрын

@@Phatxual as soon as you pull your head out of your azz!!! Please don’t tell me you believe this $hit is real!!!!!

@Phatxual

3 жыл бұрын

@@jrmex80 Careful, your IQ is showing.. I never said anything along that line, but if that's what you latch onto you might want to educate yourself a bit kiddo.

@jrmex80

3 жыл бұрын

@@Phatxual you didn’t have to, your comment was enough to know you believe it’s real. You should check YOUR IQ.

Yeah well correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Newtonian physics make it impossible to have the kind of cascade destruction everyone always talks about ? When a hand-grenade goes of, the debris don't create more debris in perpetuity because the momentum generated by the initial explosion keeps being split and transferred into each subsequent piece of debris until none is left. If two objects collide in space with a force of, say, X joules and produce a million pieces of debris of identical mass, each one will only have at beast one millionth of X joules. I fail to see how this can create a chain reaction.

One piece of debris cost 100 million? There’s your catch.

@AGGARessiv3

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavinkallas1729 u didnt watch the whole vdo didnt you? To construct the debris catcher it would cost 100 million dollars

So we should attach solid nets to that robot and just have it orbit the earth then when it's full SEND THAT SHIBE RO THE SUN

@mlssrsevenseven8160

3 жыл бұрын

This would prevent other satellites from being right outside of orbit; carrying junk further is dangerous and adds more debris for future launches to other explorations. We really need to find away to use disposable “plastic” or dissolve the satellite or not be selfish and give them expiration dates to fall within a certain gap or place uninhabitable, it’s our junk!

@vangard9725

3 жыл бұрын

@@mlssrsevenseven8160 that's a good idea if we did add expiration dates this would allow them to be sent down to earth for updates the only issue I could see with this is unrealiablity and cost but those could be fixed by having different dates of expiration

@kedrednael

3 жыл бұрын

All the pieces are traveling around 8 kilometers per second near earth, in different directions. That means if they collide they explode. You can't calmly collect stuff.

@kedrednael

3 жыл бұрын

@@mlssrsevenseven8160 The space debris are a problem because they are near earth. Most of our satellites and junk is actually very close to earth 400-1000km from the ground. If something really leaves earth (>300.000km) it really is no problem.

And how much valuable materials are in those space junk and capture module that could be reused if you had a space based recycling system, foundry, electronics lab, etc.? Disassembled parts can be packed into a smaller space if it needed to be returned to earth. How does zero to microgravity affect forging, smelting, manufacturing, etc.?

Similar to a few other comments about a space garbage truck and collector drones. There's got to be a system to bring back the debris safely to recycle it, I can't imagine the consequences of us burning perfectly recyclable materials, after all, we only have so much on our planet, it would be a waste to just destroy something we could use for other projects. Not only should there be a system to bring it back safely, but it should be separate to a collection system and a holding system. As technology advances we're sure to figure out a solution, but until then, finding a way to better reuse the things around us should be our main priority instead of destroying a finite source of materials.

Is there any gelatin like substance we can shoot into orbit hoping for paintchips to impact? Once its a white glob of paint chips then u could give it a push back to the surface

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting idea! Might depend on the rate at which it would be impacted, whether it would fracture into more projectiles, and the difficulty of bringing it down to earth. Perhaps the right formula on the exterior of a spacecraft could absorb hits without damage. One way or the other, space certainly has room for Jello!

This may be naïve, but without air in space, wouldn't a thin sheet of whatever act as a superior "net" and let you scoop even small chunks up?

While this is truly a bold initiative, the price tag of $100M to capture 1 errant piece of space debris is prohibitive in the extreme. We need to make this process 100% recyclable of the capturing aircraft it it's to be nominally cost effective. I have serious doubts this space spider craft will be able to successfully ensnare any debris that is wildly tumbling. I propose a more novel approach. Shooting a sticky string at the target that will get it tangled up like a spider enveloping its prey. Not only will this protect the debris in a cocoon of sorts so none of its individual components can fly away, but it will make it more manageable for transporting elsewhere. In fact, it would be akin to putting this into a garbage bag whereby another craft, say, a space trash truck could come along and gather it inside. Every now and then, a supply ship containing more sticky filament chemical would rendezvous in space to resupply the Space Spider. We must act sooner rather than later lest we rapidly ascend into the Kessler Syndrome.

@gxy7166

3 жыл бұрын

My idea is to launch a satellite with a lot of sensors and a powerful laser, and reach the computational power and sensibility of the sensors to recognize the little pieces of junk, and shoot them so you can change their trajectory and make them fall.

@isblue3189

3 жыл бұрын

@@gxy7166 Thats actually a good idea

@evannibbe9375

3 жыл бұрын

Just have a Starlink satellite with glue and an airbag on the side travel along the opposite trajectory. The inelastic collision will cause all the pieces to fall to Earth (this all comes down to orbital mechanics). This is significantly cheaper because it involves no new engineering, and that SpaceX is able to get massive efficiencies in building these satellites at scale.

There are ways to clean up space using cheaper and less complicated methods. There are alot of ways that could just make things worse. The idea that the orbits of these things will deteriorate and fall back to Earth is a simple mechanism we could utilize. Instead of taking things out piece by piece with a chance of failure and backfiring, which would result in adding debris, you could net a large amount all at once. Not an actual net, but a cloud of released gas in the path of the debris that it could slam into and be slowed by. Using a lighter gss would allow it to remain for longer, but will also cause the cloud to spread too much and slow down leo satellites. AHeavier cloud would not stick around as long depending on its orbital velocity, but also wouldnt spread as much before returning to earth. You could use heavy gases to degrade a large object, and a lighter cloud possibly moving fast enough to stay in orbit indefinitely to clear any random paint chips and little bolts, etc. You could also go with more complicated options that use more advanced materials. Carbon nanotube are hard to create in bulk, but we could use the to create a catchers mitt pin cushion. If we put something in space that could handle extreme collisions without releasing material, you could litterally sweep different orbits occasionally. It would become a permanent maintenance task of building a mitt and deploying it in a specific orbit that is particularly dirty or likely to be occupied by larger or high priority satellites. The mitt itself could be monitored and escorted by another craft that ensures it doesnt crash with larger debri or satellites while it is being jostled by micro-impacts. The craft could reel in the mass that is left after sweeping is sufficient, and take it back to the atmosphere.

Why can't all the junk be clustered together in one spot and create a Dump of debree and dispose of it from there

@maxgrey3694

3 жыл бұрын

All of that space junk is traveling at thousands of mph, and most of it is tiny fragments too small to track that are like the shrapnel from a bomb blast flying all around the world. There's no way to collect that much debris and just put it somewhere. Besides, objects in orbit rely on their speed to stay floating above the atmosphere. If you were to slow it down enough to stay still in some kind of dumping zone, it would fall out of orbit and be incinerated anyway. But that's still really hard to do. Cleaning up the oceans is hard enough, now imagine multiplying the volume of space to be cleared by at least 10,000x, make every piece of debris a potentially deadly projectile traveling several times faster than a bullet, and make the cost of even getting a small vehicle up there 10s-100s of millions of dollars. That gives you some idea of how hard it is to clean up space debris

For smaller to smallest pieces I'd suggest we shoot up huge Kevlar balloon, which then in space are filled with styrofoam or other hardening foam. The balloon should be like 30 to 50 meters in diameter and have a maneuvering unit on it to place it in different orbits. Small pieces up to 2,3, centimeters would impact the balloon and stopped by the styrofoam. The Kevlar skin reduces the initial impact already and keeps pieces of styrofoam (or any other self hardening 2 components foam) to exit the hull. This way we could get rid of the small and dangerous pieces

Where to get this piano music!

0:41 I am all for the idea of a space ro-butt :D

4:00 Interstellar - Docking scene

I an sorry did he say " A hacker protecting a vulnerable satellite with his TV antenna" 😮😮

It is not the biggest junkyard, volumonus yes. But as far as tonnage of waste etc it is miniscule

Grabbing the big pieces sounds great. But what do you about the small stuff? Couldn't they build a gas cannon that could knock the tiny pieces into the atmosphere to burn up in re-entry?

@Favorline

3 жыл бұрын

knocking the junk downwards toward earth does not work if the junk keeps it's momentum. you have to slow it down for it to reenter earth atmosphere. and that take a lot more energy then a gas cannon bursting against it ones.

@billlyell8322

3 жыл бұрын

@@Favorline drat! I was hoping air drag would slow it down enough. I guess that's why I'm not a rocket scientist.

@billlyell8322

3 жыл бұрын

@@Favorline there must be some way to knock the stuff down. Isn't most of it tiny junk. Paint chips screws and bolts? That's all I hear talked about.

@Favorline

3 жыл бұрын

@@billlyell8322 Sure most of it the small junk. and in the future we will for sure at some point if it's not to late find an easy way to remove junk from space. but I think it 30-50 years away if not more. until we have a working solution. But it will first happen when space travel becomes cheap, or we find a solution where one spacecraft can remove more then one big chunk before burning up in the atmosphere. and are able to scan for small stuff and capture that too. But as said I think we are far away to reaching any working solution.

@Favorline

3 жыл бұрын

@@billlyell8322 I'm not either but I have seen so many documentaries about this. and for air to have an effect that doesn't mean 100+ years for it to fall down. it has to get way closer to earth and that means slowing it down enough for it to happen. but at that point the spacecraft has used up a lot of foul. that's why the one they build is burning up with the satellite.

They should use a railgun system to shoot the debree out of orbit. That would make it reusable.

@platenoise256

3 жыл бұрын

hard to shoot a quarter sized fleck of metal from a bajillion miles away

@jayus2033

3 жыл бұрын

@@platenoise256 and also it’s the speed of a bullet

@lowkey_entertaining9723

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayus2033 10 times the speed of a bullet

@jayus2033

3 жыл бұрын

@@lowkey_entertaining9723 Exactly

@vclapem9140

3 жыл бұрын

There is no shot they are going to be able to hit it. And even if they do collide, wont the debree just break on collision creating more small space debree?

Damn

This is interesting and important

Hopefully there is a more or less complete open accessible international listing on all possible decommissioned space projects. Maybe use a giant magnet or earths magnetic forcefield to start attracting the smaller pieces of debris.

@Favorline

3 жыл бұрын

if the magnet get hit by some of the junk coming it's way just a little bit to hard it would break up. magnet are not that durable. I like the idea but don't think it will work.

@christiaanvancamp6628

3 жыл бұрын

@@Favorline huffing and puffing sounds better Now scientists are considering a huff-and-puff approach to remove debris from orbit by firing focused pulses of atmospheric gases into the path of targeted space trash.

@Favorline

3 жыл бұрын

​@@christiaanvancamp6628 Sure but how much gasses do you need, the exhaust gasses produced expand quickly in all directions. so you will have to be close and depending on how big the object are the more gas you need. it would be way more effective just to grab it and use the gas to slow it down burning up both drone and junk. focused pulses is extremely hard to do in space as I wrote it expand in all direction right away. so you'll need a lot of gas, and it has to be shoot out quickly and close to the junk. Also the point that your speed up the drone while doing so, meaning the distance between the junk and drone will expand. meaning you would need trust in the other direction to stay put. using even more gas. The idea sounds nice, but can't see it working.

@christiaanvancamp6628

3 жыл бұрын

@@Favorline i will leave that up to NASA , they are currently working on the idea

@Favorline

3 жыл бұрын

@@christiaanvancamp6628 Could you please provide a link on NASA's website that show they are going this route? Since I have been looking around and could not find it. not saying it isn't there I just can't find it. so could you please give me a link?

Me and one of my friends were actually talking about a different way to get rid of space junk just yesterday. So, like the ISS, various countries could collaborate to build and launch a ISS sized incinerator to not only get rid of space junk, but to also get rid of earth junk launch to it. And to build and maintain this space incinerator, we came up with using like space drones powered by 2 electromagnetic generators, each rotation in the opposite direction to cancel out the rotational energy, and dry cell batteries and propelledwith ion thrusters, and Tesla's recently revealed robots could do the more complex work

id say smaller drone like satilites that have thrusters to push debri into the atmosphere to burn up rather then trying to catch it cause it burns up anyway so gotta make it so you can send up alot and at a cheaper price tag

It's a lot easier to prepare than to clean up after. We could start by space-junk-proofing what we're putting up. Require smaller satellites in low orbits to carry at least two mylar balloons that trigger when a satellite's useful life is over. Make them large enough they'd bring the satellite down in a few months. For larger satellites, required them to have a retro-rocket system to bring them down and, for the ones large enough to reach the ground, have it well enough controlled to bring them down near Point Nemo.

After capturing why are they trying to bring them both down to atmosphere you just push the debris towards earth right

So, in the future is there a possibility to get V1 and V2 back?

@coltonsstuff17

3 жыл бұрын

No not unless we can achieve lightspeed they're on an endless trajectory away from earth

Rather than a claw. Might be easier to catch with a clam shell. Uneven surfaces and spinning objects might be difficult to catch with a claw.

then what is spcae X using? i dont think they are using 100m remove the proactive shell of the craft

Green alien toys: The claw 😂

This channel deserves a minimum of 1 million subscribers

@jrmex80

3 жыл бұрын

How?!?!? This is useless nonsense, do you not see how it’s all computer generated images of space. This is sci-fi at best and a clown show for anyone with half a brain to see.

@adarsh.education

3 жыл бұрын

@@jrmex80 Okay boomer

@jrmex80

3 жыл бұрын

@@adarsh.education yup dinosaur.

They need a space magnet.

@Emanuel-jr2ii

3 жыл бұрын

Funny you say that, becasuse I was thinking the same before realising the magnetic field wouldn't be strong enough to "capture" the fast flying objects.

@ilo3456

3 жыл бұрын

@@Emanuel-jr2ii Even if it could it would most likely just create more debris due to it pulling debris towards it that could be flying in the opposite direction.

I've been concerned about space junk for the past decade plus. Now Elon has this starlink internet crap up there which potentiality could just exponentially exasperate the issue.

@potionseller8943

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking, the sheer amount of satellites they’re adding could be a major issue

@cldus7442

3 жыл бұрын

Starlink is orbiting relatively low, making them easy to deorbit if they need to be. They have to be as low as possible to get the best connection

@Smokeybear69420

3 жыл бұрын

Starlink isn’t a huge issue, those orbits are lower and will decay quicker if one of them malfunctions. The higher orbits are more worrying as some of them may take decades or never re-enter at all.

@springerworks002

3 жыл бұрын

This just sounds like a nonsensical attempt to attack musk.

@troywalt4834

3 жыл бұрын

You are actually wrong starlink is in low orbit and is meant to be deorbited and burn in athmosphere when they are not needed. The problematic constellation are the one of iridium for example that will become space junk when they are no longer in service. I think it's pretty stupid to point out Spacex starlink when they are the one that have been thinking about not ending as space junk.

europeans: we need budget chinese: no problem...

No you need many different kinds and that sounds like the hardest type.

Can’t we have a big electro magnet which we turn on near the debris and a tool sweeps into a hopper and turn it off as needed. Switching states somehow.

How about making those countries/companies who are sending satellites/rockets to space, pay a toll/access fee to space. That money can be used to fund the cleaning of existing and future space junk. The real challenge is to convince and enforce the payment of this fee. That could be a problem.

@All - What about catching it in water/liquid magnetic bubbles?

great idea for a space sit com

Simple visyloid steel sheets coated in polyurethane crosscoated thick then coated with thick pollyjel. This encapsulates small dibre by the tons. And absorbs the shock of momentum.

@puregold900

3 жыл бұрын

Big objects re direct to atmosphere by momentummisile nets to earth's atmosphere. Cheap and easy use 4missiles and net speed to stop objects momentum forced from another direction suddenly. It works Tomahorkwill do the job. Very effectively.

First off introduce universal legislation that every space agency will hence forth be responsible for their missions to leave the smallest footprint impact possible, leaving little or no debris. Reusable shuttle service to take up several booster packs at one time to be deployed, attached and ignited. Also a space arm to capture and return with smaller but salvage worth satellites.

@Tre16

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody owns space....

@kepler186f4

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tre16 Your point?

@ilo3456

3 жыл бұрын

@@kepler186f4 You can't legislate something that no one has authority over, it is impossible to legislate for the use of space because there is no body with the authority to do so, if the US legislates space it will only apply to those working in the US, there is no such thing as the ability to pass universal legislation, if you wanted to do something like that you would need to being an international treaty, which is susceptible to being ignored by any country that chooses to ignore it.

@kepler186f4

3 жыл бұрын

@@ilo3456 Like International Waters, International Airspace, Interpol. internet.

@ilo3456

3 жыл бұрын

​@@kepler186f4 There is no authority in international waters, but countries won't mess with each other there, same for international airspace the only control are flight plans to avoid mid air collisions, interpol can only work with countries that willingly cooperate, and the internet is not even standardly regulated every country has their legislation about what is allowed and what isn't on the internet. You really should learn more about how the world works. International Waters and Airspace, are called international because no 1 country has jurisdiction over them, they are not part of the maritime or airspace territory of any nation and therefore are owned by no one.

Can’t you use magnets instead of a claw?

@ilo3456

3 жыл бұрын

Claw would be more reliable, since you can have it lock the object tight against the deorbiter.

All space fairing nations need to contribute a portion of their GDP to a fund that will clean up objects in orbit.

There are many satellites that can no longer maintain a proper attitude because they have run out of propellant. There have been plans to start collecting these satellites and adding shunts in the fuel and oxidizer lines so you can refill the tanks. Thats all that is required to get many of these old satellites back up and running.

Just shot a ICB-like missile with a Second stage that opens into a claw shape that is designed to grab said big space debris (the target) and take it further out into outerspace.

The simplest answer is the best. You need something that can bump space debris into Earth's atmosphere. It May have a thick hide, but if it chases objects from behind it shouldn't take too much damage.

@evannibbe9375

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, the best way to solve this problem is to put glue and an airbag on the side of a Starlink satellite (way cheaper than these claws) sent along the opposite trajectory. The inelastic collision will cause enough velocity of the target to be shed that everything will fall to Earth. The pieces shed in other directions will also fall to Earth just because of orbital mechanics and conservation of momentum because those other pieces do not have the massive speed in their new directions to stay in orbit. The fact that this is significantly cheaper means that more space junk can be removed

Take all debris to the moon. Recycle there.

Could a magnet change the trajectory of small pieces into the earth to burn up that way, I'm thinking of more of a passive way to get rid of the small debris from the magnet just orbiting the earth

@ti_bui9481

3 жыл бұрын

1. Most metals isn’t magnetic 2. The magnetic force becomes exponentially smaller by the distance squared so you’d still need to get up close

Can we launch a large electromagnet that would attract and capture metal objects that are close to its trajectory and speed in space? A group of them could be launched in a rocket that would then deploy to larger, targeted debri fields in orbit.

Hello this Chris on ISS and we are looking at a object about the size of a car, it’s can clearly be seen on our radar. Now we are getting A visual confirmation from one of our on board telescopes it indeed appears to be a red sports car anyone got any ideas why it’s coming towards us?

wait would a packet of floppy chips bag be able to travel at those tremendous speeds?

@ilo3456

3 жыл бұрын

It would, anything can move fast it is all a matter of a acceleration

Space is huge but a huge home doesn’t mean a room can’t be cluttered

one big flaw in movie GRAVITY is, if the debris travel significantly faster than the shuttle orbit, the WON’T come back behind you in two hours, they travel to higher orbits or even escape from earth, newton’s law.

@Favorline

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, but then the movie would not be good :P

This system, at $100M a pop, will not be able to clear up space. The way to clear up space would be to do something far cheaper. $100M would be far more useful going into a new factory to build on the Moon or Mars, thus securing a foothold for ourselves there. I think a way to make the system for removing space junk efficient enough to be usable is to do something like placing a highly strengthened Starlink satellite with a bunch of glue and an airbag on one side (which is already being made far cheaper than the gripper shown here), then have it hit the target satellite to deorbit precisely along the opposite trajectory that the target satellite is traveling along. You may think that this would increase the amount of space junk in orbit around Earth, but actually it will not due to orbital mechanics: the airbag and glue will make an inelastic collision that cancels a large part of each satellite’s sideways velocity, which means that if both satellites were the same mass, everything would immediately fall to Earth, and otherwise if they are not the same mass, the target satellite would still be forced to a much lower orbit, which means it will collide with more air molecules and slow down further until it lands on Earth!

I can hear that one guy watching this saying "I told you so but you it wasn't in the budget."

@softdrink-0

3 жыл бұрын

Are you illiterate

Why dont they simply add a bit of thrust to it in order to make it exit worlds orbit and fly of into space (idealy toward the sun?)

@evannibbe9375

3 жыл бұрын

Flying towards the sun takes ridiculous amounts of energy (the same amount of energy as it takes to get to Pluto), that’s orbital mechanics for you.

But upon highway salvages we don’t incinerate the tow truck. This is bonkers!

Why not build a spring loaded satellite that can capture and shoot multiple pieces of debris towards earth to burn up? A 1 time use satellite seems kind of redundant doesn’t it?

Kessler’s Syndrome. Aerogel/foam satellites with solar powered ion drives that shift their orbits and report changes in mass. Once sufficient junk has been collected, plan a re-entry trajectory for burn-up.The Claw might put more junk in space than it takes out.

Did the same thing in Kerbal, years ago.

It doesn't need to be a claw, just take a net with four small rockets and launch it open at the space debris and direct it down to earth

Aliens might find it hard to invade earth with all this debris flying around. :(

4:15 reminds me of Interestellar

They're gonna burn up the collector along with the space junk? It's a shame it can't just capture then push the junk into the atmosphere then move on to the next piece of junk

Their plan to capture that "space junk" is way more complicated than it needs to be

@jasondeng7677

3 жыл бұрын

What should it actually be then?

@cldus7442

3 жыл бұрын

There isn't any good way to capture something moving at mach 10 with enough kinetic energy to obliterate anything it slams into

@vclapem9140

3 жыл бұрын

How would you do it, Smart Guy?

Why don’t use super magnet

They should consider creating essentially a magnetic space toe truck 🛻

@Girtharmstrong69

3 жыл бұрын

Tow

@ilo3456

3 жыл бұрын

That wouldn't work due to the range or the magnet not being capable of covering such a large amount of space, and even if it could it would pull on active and inactive satellites changing their orbital paths, creating more potential satellite crashes and more debris and also creating problems for the operators of said active satellites, then it also come to the power requirements of an electromagnet that powerful would be inpractical, then we also come to the fact that it pulling space debris towards it is the textbook way of creaing more debris, because you might be pulling a piece of debris going in the complete opposite direction from your vector of motion.

All hail the space robit, clear the path for us!

The topic was catching things in orbit, because its over the kamen, poeple talk words of "space." Projects lke the cold war SDI, was used for war, today projects like this will be needed for filtering the Earth exo layer orbits of debrees to reduce on appreanding cost.

Animation of collision is next level 👌 awesome

Reminds me of James Bond (You only live twice) space capture

Polluting the water!!! Polluting the Air!! Polluting the Land!! Polluting the Space!!! What next!!

Orbiting junk will eventually fall into the atmosphere and desintegrate. The only real problem is that its hard to know how long it will take to do so.

Nah, I'd rather have a giant laser blaster for all the floating junk, just for target practice.

Is it possible to push/ shoot this space debris out of our orbit? It’ll make the rest of space messy, but won’t be in our orbit anymore

Yea .. space and the satellites. That we can't see .. right!!