Thank you again Alex. Especially because I did order some high quality HDMI cables as you said ranging from 30 to 50 feet and they all worked even in both directions! I'm installing them at a newly opening restaurant /bar and haven't been able to test them for a long length of time yet but initially they all worked!

Hi, just was looking for such a video which answered lots of my questions. Thank you..

Thanks for the knowledge and its really god to see that you come out with new tech that is extremely helpful for us.

@AlexPettitt

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter, glad you like the videos so far :)

Thanks again for another great video Alex

thanks for this insightful video! our church will be purchasing an HDMI extender + CAT6 cable for our one-camera live stream setup. thanks again!

Hi Alex .. great test! Thank you.

Thanks Alex. Great teacher. Appreciate all your videos.

great info. i just my ATEM mini, thinking of getting cat6 hdmi extenders. it will come in great for the future productions coming up in my country. thanks for the info.

@vertusmatjaz

3 жыл бұрын

I have a Blackmagic Atem mini to and I am wondering if there is and lag issues with extender you have try it. This testing is sadly with cable 30 meters long and could not see if there is any lag because he was not in the screen. Too bad.

Hi Alex ! Great video as usual! Could you please make a video testing the new fiber optic HDMI cables? I believe it should be a cheaper option than using the SDI cables with the 2 converters SDI to HDMI. THANK YOU!!

Great info, I need to get a these!

Thanks!! what I was looking for!

We have done remotes with these during zoom webinars at 160 feet it was flawless.

Got mine today, used 3mtr Cat5e cable, worked well. Going to buy a 30 mtr Cat6 cable now.

Would be interesting to see if remote control/tally would work with extenders that support CEC

Thank you for sharing this info.

awesome tip! thanks for sharing!

I have ran HDMI 50m to the Atem and have also ran cat6 extender 300m to a outdoor big screen. I imagine it would also depend on all the variables on the devices we use. The long distances were achieved on the Canon 5D3 and Canon XC10 but I cannon recall the HDMI cable brand or the extenders and cat6 cables. I have not done this with any other cameras so I do not know how others would behave

Thank you, Alex! We are in the infancy of setting up a streaming system for the local high school sports programs. (Thanks, covid!) To get up and running fast, we used 50’ hdmi cables to the cameras but I really need to spread the cameras out more to make for more interesting transitions between angles. I was thinking about trying this and here you already did the testing for me! Thanks again.

@vertusmatjaz

3 жыл бұрын

And does it works. I have a similar problem

@FenixEventProductions

Жыл бұрын

Go for SDI runs instead of cat6. Blackmagic has SDI-HDMI converters, both 3G and 12G.

@ChiefNonsense

Жыл бұрын

@@FenixEventProductions agreed. We now use the generic SDI-HDMI converters available on eBay for about $30 each. I make my own SDI cables from a cheap spool of quad shield coax and some budget connectors I found on eBay. The other options just weren’t reliable enough.

@FenixEventProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@ChiefNonsense Thats great. You are better off with generic converters as most bypass HDCP and will be less of a headache in the future. HDMI is consumer grade equipment, not pro grade. I dont run longer than 5' HDMI cables, its just not reliable and the connection head is its weak point, they tend to bend and break easily.

Excellent video!!! Thank you!!!

Hi. Thanks for all your videos. I watch them all. In this case in found a solution to talk back signal to the camera with 50 meters long. Hope I can make video soon to explain that . Or another way to share it

@wasbeen

4 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see that video too.

Love your videos about this product, thanks for all the knowledge :) If we may ask you a question, on our last "live" gig, the color correction for the BMPCC6k did not work. Whatever adjustments we made nothing changed. Is there a fix for this? We have not found any specific information about how to use it, so we assume it's just plug and play,

Double plus for HDMI over fiber. I am using an Amazon Basics 100 ft cable and it works like a charm. No boxes which need their own HDMI cables or external power supplies.

I have a suggestion for a further video: Shortcuts in the ATEM Mini. For instance, the preview by numbers 1, 2, 3 in combination with CR oder Space from the ATEM Software.

This is a really good alternative. Thanks for sharing. It transfer video and audio or just video? I’m not sure if you mentioned this. Thanks!!

Love to see how prosumer approach to things that had been made like 10 y ago :) btw good video, but always suggest SDI for long distance cabling... SDI is the only way to have uncompressed signal after all nowadays! NDI is pretty amazing and it will be the future for sure!

@R32vdubb

3 жыл бұрын

SDI for the win!!! Can’t go wrong

Great video as always. Did you test the audio as well? Sometimes a powered extender adds a buzz to the audio.

I can testify to the good image quality of 50m Cat6 runs. They'd be great for a one time set-and-forget studio cable run, but I'd really suggest SDI converters for anyone who; 1) will be setting up in the field (well shielded Cat6 is a pain to run and tack down, and not hugely cheaper) and/or 2) has an inkling that they may need to use, rent or buy an SDI capable mixer (ever, or at least in the next few years). Units are not much more in cost, *but* that gets you a lot more flexible setup. Literally and figuratively :D

Thanks Alex

I’ve been using a fiber optic 100m hdmi cable and it works with no issues on the pocket 4K and the atem mini pro combo. Even still has tally and camera control.

@serchenmorris1979

4 жыл бұрын

Hey which brand are you using for the 100 m fiber optic hdmi cable??

@MoanStarProductions

4 жыл бұрын

Serchen Morris ATOMZING Slim HDMI 2.0b Fiber Cable, 328ft/100m, Supports 4K@60Hz Fiber Optic Cable, 4:4:4/4:2:2/4:2:0, HDR, ARC, HDCP2.2, 3D, Dolby Vision, 18Gbps Fiber Optic HDMI Cord www.amazon.com/dp/B07V663YB6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7yJ-Eb49XS50T

@drpeks

3 жыл бұрын

Do you use it on all inputs for multicamera streaming? I just ordered two 50t and one 30ft fibre optic hdmi. will be connecting to our cameras via the micro/mini to hdmi adapter and i'm honestly scared if I made the wrong choice.

@MoanStarProductions

3 жыл бұрын

@@drpeks I haven’t tested it with any adapters, I only use it on my pocket 4k and 6k

@markanenberg

3 жыл бұрын

The details on the Amazon unit that you provided says that it only supports one-way transmission. I'm wondering how the camera control could be working then. Are you able to change camera settings, color, zoom...?

I recommend Jtech cat6 HDMI extenders 300ft no problem... I use 6 of them all running 200 - 300 feet currently.

I got 2 100ft hdmi cables from monoprice on memorial day sale for 22 bucks a piece. They work fine.

Thanks man. Very useful. Gonna try this. However, what switcher would be the next step if we want to go SDI?

You can also use amplified hdmi cables up to 50m. I use a 15 and 20m cable. They are one directional signal so I am not sure if they return BM data to camera

Great video, just wondering if you have tried using pocket 4K control/tally from an Atem over SDI with the micro bidirectional converter?

I got a jtech set of extenders, ran em 150ft and got full control of BMPCC4k AND talley lights. Just make sure all hdmi cables are BIdirectional

I personally use the BMD SDI to HDMI micro convertors but this is a great idea if you don't need BMD camera control.

do you have a video on camera settings on the Mini Pro ie how to improve the colors? what do the controls for under the software tab do?

Great video 👍 - fab quality on the main cam - what Sony camera did you shoot this on??

Thank you!

I’m having success using single direction 75 ft hdmi cable to run Canon M50 into Mini Pro

I have the BMPCC 4K and ATEM mini pro and Sony A6100. Going to set it up over the next 2 weeks. I wanted long range roving for the Sony cam and so I bought the Hollyland 400s. I will let you know if / how that works over 200 feet!

@morganpaschall1148

3 жыл бұрын

How did this go?

Great video :) Question, How did you power the extenders? Can you do this via a Power bank? what cables do you need?

Does the SDI to HDMI conversion then offer upstream data for color control, tally, etc.? Or will that still only work with a singular HDMI cable? Thanks for being such a great resource for all of this?

Hi Alex - I'm just curious if you can still control the BMPCC using the ATEM when connected using the CAT6 extender. You mentioned the tally light doesn't turn on, so I'm assuming there's no control of the cameras either?

@Alex, I have the ATEM mini pro. I was looking at the HDMI Extender on Amazon and I see where the one I'm interested in says "

Any thoughts on how to work with say, two HDMI video senders (Hollywood 300) and two HDMI cabled cameras in terms of matching video latency ? Is there a way to induce latency into the hard plugged cameras to match the natural delay off the wireless pair ?

The dtap connection you have going on is that something that regulates it down to 5v in the hdmi extender unit? I’ve just picked up three of these and hacked a usb connection to plug into a hub to deliver power.

Hi Alex, I know about adjusting shutter speed to get LED lights to not flicker but I'm finding that shooting at 24fps and going to a shutter speed of 41 on my BMPCC 4K cameras reduces the flicker but it still looks bad. Any suggestions? Thank you!

Maybe synced clocks to show the latency of the long cable would have been a good thing to show. You showed the latency of a short cable but not with long cable - so when you showed the pocket outside saying it was live - it could have been a full second out and on your video would have appeared "Live". Can this somehow be connected to a WiFi hub to perform a wireless send?

Were you able to trigger the cameras to start recording using the ATEM while being connected with HDMI-CAT6 converter?

i just use j tech from amazon and haven't had any problems running over 120ft for my church. But unfortunately that does answer the question i was wondering about would i be able to use the extra features that using the pocket cinema cameras would ad.

I am using 100ft 4K Fiber HDMI cable and no issue so far, maybe you can test this also and see if tally light work.

Great video… what cable did you use your to power the converter when it was powered by the dtap outside? Have a link ?

Hi Alex Have you done similar videos on other adapters/ converters for the ATEM mini ?? Our church has very recently installed this unit and although it works fine with HDMI we need to use a VGA input from a laptop occasionally. Have you tested any VGA to HDMI converters??

I'm using a similar solution which also works well but the big annoyance with all of the extenders is having the power plugged in at the TX end! Great that you only need power at one end but for us it would be much more practical to have it at the Rx end where we have powerblocks to drive all our other gear. I typically don't have anywhere to plug in at the camera TX end so yet another battery required........ or extension cables running all over the shop so frustrating.

The resolution of the video feed from the black magic pocket cinema?

What happens if you give power to the receiver and not to the transmitter? Does it work anyway? I need to power near the Atem (already provided for voltage) while the place where the transmitter is present may not have voltage, the camera is battery powered

What's the advantages and disadvantages of using cat6 and sdi cables to extend the hdmi signals to distance of 50meters

Do you have a recommendation for HDMI extender as well as a usb control so the menus could be controlled from a remote camera controller that contains a HDD?

Alex, another awesome video! Alex, can I get sound out of the CAT6?

@AlexPettitt

4 жыл бұрын

Keith Chester yes if you send sound out of HDMI device, that will be passed down the CAT6 and to your ATEM Mini device

@keithchester4425

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlexPettitt Thanks Alex!

i have canon xa 11 camera ... mini hdmi ... ihave 25 meter hdmi cable .. its not working .. any solution .. only hdmi working in one meter cable

Can you get a cat 6 transmitter / receiver that does have the ability to send data both directions so you can use the tally and focus functions?

If you were one of the fast ones to claim the gift, let me know it was you in the comments so I can say hi! If you don't have a clue what I'm talking about, watch the video and all will become clear ;)

@noelw3966

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Alex Pettitt! Thank you for hiding the gift card in the video! I’m going to use it to pick up one of these extenders. And I really enjoy your videos on the ATEM mini system.

@bradcrawford1135

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like I was fast enough! Alex, thanks for one of the gift cards and the clear, approachable nature of the videos on your channel. Your ATEM Mini Pro videos have inspired many people like me to find creative new ways to put our new devices to work. Really appreciate it, keep up the good work!

@IngoWoelke

4 жыл бұрын

Well, I don't have a clue, but I don't watch your videos to win a gift, I watch them because they are awesome! So, thanks and keep up the good work.

Hey Alex, I tried to this method it works well if I don't use the first entry... Somehow I got a green\weird screen. if I plug any other camera directly works good (no extender) and then use entry 2 or 3 or 4 for the HDMI extender... Any idea? I have the mini pro... Cheers from Panamá

Thanks Alex, using these in our "post lockdown" church setup using 30m Cat 8 cables. Please can you do a video on the Fibre HDMI cables - maybe they will allow the ATEM's camera control?

@DirkPelgrims

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, Fiber HDMI allow BLackMagic camera's control

@AlexPettitt

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, I’m definitely going to give the HDMI Fiber cables a go!

Are you sure the Cat 6 extender you bought is a Bi Directional unit? Some on Amazon are not, I purposely purchased the bi-directional extenders for this purpose, but I don't have a BMDPCC to test....yet. Hopefully this weekend.

What is that preview looking screen you had? I don’t mind the atem mini but not having a preview monitor is an issue imo

Hi Alex, I’m using the same extenders. When connecting one of my cameras to channel 1, I’m getting a live green monochrome feed. However, I have no issues and get a clear live feed with the same camera, same cable when using channels 2, 3, 4. Have you tried using the channel 1 with a long cat6 cable? I’m only using a 10-15 ft cable. Any feedback would greatly greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

Thanks Alex, i have atem mini pro with 3 cameras using hdmi extenders and the atem is connected by network, but i use wirecast to stream my content and the atem isn´t showing the cameras. any ideas to solve the problem?

Hey Alex, 1 year on...would you still recommend the PWAY extenders?

Question, could the power be supplied on the receiving end, thus leaving the camera end without the need for another power supply? You mention that the transmitting end can supply the power and the receiving end does not need it, just trying to see if the reverse is possible.

can it be use as output? from hdmi out into splitter through hdmi extender?

I have use Milstone Company HDMI to Cat6 extender input in Atem Mini Switcher but camera input can't display Which Company Cat6 extender use ?

Running the exact same setup using the HDMi extenders used in the video over a 35m cable and I get nothing through to the Atem mini pro. I'm using BMPCC 6k. It works fine when I run a laptop through the HDMi extender and into the Atem but not when I hook it up to the camera. Is there a setting I'm missing? Am I missing something?

Hi Alex. I bought 3. They work on 30 ft cat 6 shield cables but not on 100ft same cable. Any suggestion?

Is there no converter for the ethernet out of the amp ? A second pgm with very little delay over ethernet would be great, the streaming bridge adds too much delay :(

Alex, could you go into more depth about the BM Video Assist monitor you use? For example, what are it's advantages and is the similar cheaper model as good - do the HDMI and SDI outs mirror the screen or can it also send clean program out of both simultaneously? Thanks again!

@AlexPettitt

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Younken Great idea! Will be sure to talk about it more in a future video :) Thanks 🙏

@TaystTheNotes

4 жыл бұрын

I second the request! In the review however, can you discuss video assist monitor options for those of us who also would take the pocket cinema outside on a mobile shoot with a pocket cinema attached to a rig? I’m hoping that with the monitor or monitors that you talk about, they won’t be just restricted to indoor use.

Hi! I tried to get it from your link, but it's not in the kit anymore :( could you add it again? or has it a reason?

We tried the tech digital. It appeared green and inverted on the switcher. Any ideas why it did that?

Hey Alex, I bought all the same set up up way back when you first posted this video EXCEPT the BMPCC4K. I just recently bought one for another project and tired to use the set up again but with the nem camera. but the atem mini does not get a signal from the BMPCC4K at all! iI don't know what to do, any advice?

I’m trying to use a similar setup, but using the Cat extender on the output side of the ATEM. In other words, HDMI out from ATEM, to extender, to remote display. The HDMI output from ATEM works to the remote display without the extender. The extender works when not going through ATEM, but putting the extender after the ATEM I get no signal to the remote display. I’m testing with a 6 foot cat 5 cable and also tested with a 75 foot cat 7 cable (and switched the receiver’s 30/50 meter switch accordingly). No signal on the display. Any ideas?

I've bought the same cat 6 extenders as in Alex's video to get BMPCC6k into ATEM but having no luck at all. I'm using Cat 6 cable and quality HDMI cables. All cables I've tested independently and they're working well, and the extenders also work - i tested by connecting my laptop screen. My BMPCC6k is also definitely sending a picture along the HDMI alone but as soon as I plug in my BMPCC6k to the extended HDMI and Cat6 setup, exactly as the video, it doesn't carry the picture. Any suggestions would be very welcome from those who may have been through this!

@CollinShook

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same issue. I use 7 canon m-series with these for my recording studio where we livestream concerts. Just got my first BM6kPro model, no matter what configuration of cat6 cable lengths or hdmi cable lengths, no signal at all over these extenders. They've all worked flawlessly with the canon cams, up to 150ft cat6. Even 6 inches with 6kpro, no signal

Have you tried to run the HDMI through a switch? ie: HDMI to transmitter to 30m cat6 into network switch, network switch to receiver and HDMI into Atem

can you plug the power to the receiver instead of the transmitter to power the tx?

I found an issue if I use the PWAY on the HDMI output from ATEM, the picture frames being funny. I think it is a mismatch in the frame rate (I thought everything is 1920x1080 60Hz) when I use it with the HMDI output. Do you know where I can adjust the ATEM output frame rate? So I can fix this issue?

I wonder if I could use only the transmitter to my projector, cuz the projector has a cat6 input already.

Thank you for that Alex. Silly question, maybe. 4k or just full he with the extender?

@gabrielfernandez4503

2 жыл бұрын

Good question, im not sure on the answer. But what im sure is that the BMPCC4K and 6K HDMI output is only 1080p, no 4K

It also works with a 2$ passive converter.

@imothy

3 жыл бұрын

Link?

what about sound though? is it being transmitted?

Thanks, a lot! As I'm planning to bring live ice hockey games, with 3 cameras, on the ATEM Mini PRO, my big question was : - Well I only see guys playing with that in like a "mini studio" but, how far can I go with my HDMI cables, before I loose my signal. Ha! With a CAT6 (I'll go for the CAT7) HDMI extender... You made my evening!

Lets say you have multiple switches, connected with fiber-cable. Would it then be possible to place the transmitter in location A, and the received in Location C (all connected with switches and fiber-cables, so its the same network), but the total distance is like 20km ... Would these boxes work? :)

Can you test and show us wireless receiver and transmitters between camera and ATEM Mini or mini pro (similar to the cat6 extender in this video)?

@AlexPettitt

4 жыл бұрын

There is a video on my channel testing this with the Hollyland MARS 400s Wireless system :)

I was looking into HDMI/CAT6 extenders a few weeks ago because I have an event (high school graduation outdoors) very soon where I need some long (about 60 meters / 200 feet) cable runs for two cameras to my ATEM mini pro. That is not what I purchased the mini pro for, it just an event that came up that I need to do. After reading lots of posts here and there and watching numerous videos about extenders, I decided that, to use a UK term, it was just too "fidly" to take a chance on with the extra connections, power supplies, weather, kids, vehicles, etc. So I purchased a couple sets of the Hollyland Mars 400s HDMI transmitter/receivers. More money for sure but less problems to sort out when things go wrong in the heat of the battle and I am working with teenage students. However, I think I will get some extenders for those events where I can protect my cables better. Your video was excellent and really convinced me to get some extenders for the future. Thank you. Perhaps future video on the mini pro running hot.

U must use clocks to test the latency in both scenes?

I tried the exact extenders that you have and wanted to send signal from hdmi out of a atem mini to a 4k tv, and would not work. Maybe needs to be a camera for it to work correctly like your example

I tried this with the first atem mini, didn't work. Was there an update on the firmware that now allows this? Or do I have to upgrade to the pro which has different hardware?

@fjalarsigurdarson4862

3 жыл бұрын

Try new fully wired cat5 cat6 cables - make sure they are correctly wired

Hey Man. I can’t get anything to display. I long press the edid and it works until the light stops blinking then nothing.

Have you ever used a HDMI Extractor to monitor the audio in your workflow? How does it work?

Hi Alex what lense are you using on your Blackmagic Camera?

I have a setup where my video out put is a hdmi output. I have to provide input to three different HD tvs which are 60 feet from my video source. What will be the best and low budget way to do it.

@noelw3966

4 жыл бұрын

Not 100% sure how it might impact quality but perhaps running your video output into one of these extenders, and then run the extender into an hdmi switcher would work. That is assuming your monitors are close enough together.