Casting the Women of Valley of the Dolls | PT 1

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In this video I talk about how they cast Valley of the Dolls. You'll learn more about the cast that nearly happened (Raquel Welch, Candice Bergen, Barbra Streisand, Lee Remick, Natalie Wood, Ann-Margret, and Bette Davis), and all about the women who actually got the roles (Barbara Parkins, Sharon Tate, Patty Duke, Judy Garland).
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  • @bkrewind
    @bkrewind8 ай бұрын

    and here is part 2: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zaaq25p9kdSZf6w.html

  • @mousemd

    @mousemd

    3 ай бұрын

    I wasn't thrilled with it. I was so impressed with it that all I remember is that I watched it. Maybe I remember the actresses? Two of them. Maybe, if you mention the others, I will remember that they were in it?

  • @daniellemhall1358
    @daniellemhall13589 ай бұрын

    The interviewer was like "How do you sleep at night knowing you're a terrible writer?" And she was like "I roll over on my big pile of money and close my eyes."

  • @duetforherbivores

    @duetforherbivores

    9 ай бұрын

    devoured that!

  • @ripwednesdayadams

    @ripwednesdayadams

    9 ай бұрын

    That was amazing. That interviewer was such an insufferable twat. I had no idea that Valley of the Dolls was the best selling novel for so long, only second to the bible. No wonder all the jealous bitches were hating. 😂

  • @DuxaluxaLOL

    @DuxaluxaLOL

    9 ай бұрын

    lmaoooooo so true

  • @GMAMEC

    @GMAMEC

    9 ай бұрын

    I love her response. Her response could be a Ted Talk presentation. It’s all about self awareness and self esteem. There will always be someone who will try to pull you down or disagree with your actions . It’s important to understand a person’s motivation (jealousy, greed, misunderstandings, fear etc.) .

  • @mangos2888

    @mangos2888

    9 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @marcojimenez4594
    @marcojimenez45949 ай бұрын

    You did not just drop a +1 hour documentary on a classic, to then title it "Part 1"... Words like "amazing" can't describe the work you do anymore! 🎉 Bravo!

  • @flower_girl4983

    @flower_girl4983

    9 ай бұрын

    Why did the gays connect with Judy so much?

  • @maxalberts2003

    @maxalberts2003

    9 ай бұрын

    @@flower_girl4983 In part because she stood strong and supported us. Also because of the deep pain and horrific conflict many of our forbears lived with until the day they died.

  • @vintageincolor

    @vintageincolor

    9 ай бұрын

    Holy shit! I didn’t even realize it was a part 1!!! I can’t wait until part 2!

  • @akrenwinkle

    @akrenwinkle

    9 ай бұрын

    @@flower_girl4983 Like many of her gay fans, Judy started out poor, pedestrian, ordinary... then wound up glamorous and sophisticated, fancy clothes, gay husbands. Gays love that transformation. And she was unpredictable. You'd never know who would show up: in total control, partial control, or ready to throw up any second. She was fun!

  • @stephaniestanley8041

    @stephaniestanley8041

    9 ай бұрын

    Bravo

  • @DustinReckling
    @DustinReckling9 ай бұрын

    The fact you got to interview THE LEE GRANT!! Enormous for someone who's been watching since the beginning.

  • @justin__roderick

    @justin__roderick

    9 ай бұрын

    i GAGGED like yes queen flex those connections!!!

  • @ImnotassweetasIusedtobe

    @ImnotassweetasIusedtobe

    9 ай бұрын

    Seriously, idk how long I've loved Lee Grant. Her documentaries alone are amazing and so ahead of their time. SHE is so ahead of her time.

  • @otismeotisme7987

    @otismeotisme7987

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for reminding of Lee Grant, i gonna research.

  • @penelopewells8044

    @penelopewells8044

    9 ай бұрын

    The beginning of what? I want MORE!

  • @cchevy936

    @cchevy936

    8 ай бұрын

    OMG; you interviewed Lee Grant, an icon? Wow.

  • @Goddessvenom
    @Goddessvenom9 ай бұрын

    I can't believe how rude that interviewer was to Jacqueline Susanne 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @robertcanada5106

    @robertcanada5106

    9 ай бұрын

    That interviewer tried it with her jealous ass.

  • @patriciajones6771

    @patriciajones6771

    9 ай бұрын

    Jacqueline was right not to take her on, while she busy critiquing the novel, She was standing on piles of money, that book was a BEST SELLER.😅

  • @chancekahle2214

    @chancekahle2214

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@patriciajones6771Not just A best seller, but THE best seller.

  • @r.d.493

    @r.d.493

    9 ай бұрын

    Jacqueline’s criticism reached fever pitch in 1969 when John Simon attacked her on the David Frost Show because he didn’t like her novel The Love Machine. Her friend Rex Reed was in the audience and revealed that Simon only read 30 pages of the book. Simon later had no response when Jackie asked him what he had written after having gone to Harvard. That same night, Truman Capote showed up on Johnny Carson and described Jackie as a "truck driver in drag."

  • @Goddessvenom

    @Goddessvenom

    9 ай бұрын

    @@r.d.493 That's hilarious 😂

  • @jaydebonair
    @jaydebonair9 ай бұрын

    The way we just skipped over the men was iconic! Sit down fellas, this is about the ladies 💚

  • @justin__roderick

    @justin__roderick

    9 ай бұрын

    not skipped, but gave them their due time, which frankly is none

  • @jaydebonair

    @jaydebonair

    9 ай бұрын

    @@justin__roderick Peridot! 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @djb1317

    @djb1317

    9 ай бұрын

    that's the shame about BKR and both of you suffer from it too. a bunch of marxist anti white misandrist racists@@jaydebonair it could be so much better if se wasnt that way inclined

  • @slc2466

    @slc2466

    9 ай бұрын

    It's apt- The Harvard Lampoon gave Worst Supporting Actor that year to "Whatsisname" from "Valley of the Dolls."

  • @ImnotassweetasIusedtobe

    @ImnotassweetasIusedtobe

    9 ай бұрын

    I am ALWAYS grateful for this

  • @nuwandaDalton
    @nuwandaDalton9 ай бұрын

    I never knew that Patty Duke had such an awful childhood. My heart goes out to her. And of course it's not her fault, but I have a hard time even looking at Sharon Tate because of the horrific way her life ended.

  • @Farzee49

    @Farzee49

    9 ай бұрын

    Me too....the story of her murder has haunted me.

  • @Fawn-mn3zv

    @Fawn-mn3zv

    9 ай бұрын

    Don't let the last 10-15 minutes of her life spoil everything. If you do, somehow the killers have won.

  • @leighcochran7303

    @leighcochran7303

    9 ай бұрын

    I knew 'cos I read her autobiography "Call Me Anna." They even took away her name!

  • @Farzee49

    @Farzee49

    9 ай бұрын

    @leighcochran7303 I read that book a long time ago...I didn't finish it but I call her "Anna" when I refer to her. I'm happy she lived a life after that life.

  • @melindaj.taylor5884

    @melindaj.taylor5884

    9 ай бұрын

    I heard that Patty Duke and Sharon Tate became close friends during the filming of VOTD and that Patty was devastated after Sharon's murder; she took her death very hard.

  • @dompy1
    @dompy19 ай бұрын

    "Paul Burke, Tony Scotti and Alexander Davion are all in the movie". 😂😂😂 The SHADE!!!

  • @whatzittooya8976
    @whatzittooya89769 ай бұрын

    For some reason, the segment about Patty's abrupt transition from juvenile material to more "mature" adult orieted work reminded me of Zendaya's rather aburpt transition in her career. Euphoria premiered the year after her DISNEY SITCOM, K.C. Undercover, had ended lol

  • @remytherat2929

    @remytherat2929

    9 ай бұрын

    Honestly I feel like zendaya made one of the best Disney child star transitions. Yes euphoria was heavy adult material but she play her character so well and really showed her acting abilities.

  • @whatzittooya8976

    @whatzittooya8976

    9 ай бұрын

    @remytherat2929 Oh, absolutely. I definitely agree, and it was a very smart decision for Zendaya's career, and people took her seriously as an actress after it. It was just such a 180 compared to her other stuff and whiplash inducing lol

  • @MovieJon

    @MovieJon

    9 ай бұрын

    Then there was "Saved by the Bell" star Elizabeth Berkley going straight into "Showgirls!" That was a very public disaster.... 😯

  • @PamelaGrow

    @PamelaGrow

    9 ай бұрын

    Zendaya is absolutely brilliant.

  • @DC-cv9ch

    @DC-cv9ch

    9 ай бұрын

    So many...Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus. I would love to see this movie redone today.

  • @drmsd14
    @drmsd149 ай бұрын

    How many KZread content creators are getting ACADEMY AWARD WINNERS to contribute to said content?!? Another fabulous installment. Looking forward to Part 2!

  • @This_Is_What_I_Give
    @This_Is_What_I_Give9 ай бұрын

    My poor father had to take his fifteen year-old son to see VOD because on Long Island, minors had to be accompanied by an adult to see this flicker. Dad left pretty quickly, but I stayed on to watch it twice, I was mesmerized. Great insights on the Judy playing Helen creepiness and you got to interview Lee Grant! I believe I read in "Dolls, Dolls, Dolls." that Julie Christie was asked to play Anne. Can you imagine? Bravo!!

  • @gpg9516

    @gpg9516

    9 ай бұрын

    I was 14, dad had to take me- no unaccompanied minors. I went because Patty Duke appeared in undergarments and I had a big old teenage ‘thing’ for her.

  • @stj971

    @stj971

    9 ай бұрын

    Barbara was great in the role. Love Julie tho.

  • @LannieLord

    @LannieLord

    7 ай бұрын

    What town were you in ?

  • @brockreynolds870
    @brockreynolds8706 ай бұрын

    I ADORED the ending when Babrara Parkins' character goes back home, to beautiful Vermont, where she belongs, and people are real. I cried when she ran into the arms of her grandma. That scene alone was worth the price of admission.

  • @JBrodo
    @JBrodo9 ай бұрын

    Sharon Tate seems like she was such a sweet woman, and from what I have read about her behind the scenes, she really was ❤️.

  • @Bellasie1

    @Bellasie1

    9 ай бұрын

    Exactly what I have always thought!

  • @windstorm1000

    @windstorm1000

    9 ай бұрын

    Everybody loved her.

  • @EastSide-qc5oy

    @EastSide-qc5oy

    9 ай бұрын

    And like Patty Duke has said, she was no dummy, though because of her looks and image she was sometimes expected to be.

  • @gloriasiess1129

    @gloriasiess1129

    9 ай бұрын

    yes she was. A friend of mine knew her and said she was warm and kind.

  • @gregsmith7949

    @gregsmith7949

    9 ай бұрын

    Her husband on the other hand...

  • @imtheonewhobroughtthebeans915
    @imtheonewhobroughtthebeans9159 ай бұрын

    You’re back!! And talking about Valley of the Dolls! Ugh, we don’t deserve you 💖 Edit: YOU GOT INTERVIEWS WITH LYPSINKA AND LEE GRANT?!?! Queeeen

  • @Cat-tastrophee
    @Cat-tastrophee9 ай бұрын

    God, I love Lee Grant. Thank you for introducing me to her, and I'm delighted she's back! I love that she said frankly, "I needed the money." She's a real one 💛

  • @lampdevil
    @lampdevil9 ай бұрын

    Oh Jesus, I feel so bad for all 4 of these women. Part 2 cannot come soon enough, bravo for every single minute of this.

  • @maxr7616
    @maxr76169 ай бұрын

    never has a video topic been more up my alley than this!!! always loved this camp classic, and thought tate’s final scenes in the film were genuinely beautiful acting.

  • @sarahbiegelsen

    @sarahbiegelsen

    9 ай бұрын

    Don’t you mean up your VALLEY?

  • @beautyonabarnbudget

    @beautyonabarnbudget

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@sarahbiegelsen dayum...beat me to it 😂

  • @happytrails699

    @happytrails699

    9 ай бұрын

    me too!

  • @kyndramb7050
    @kyndramb70509 ай бұрын

    I happened upon this film at a sleepover in high school after everyone else had already gone to bed. I was captivated. How had noone told me about this film before? I'd heard about the book from my Nana, in passing, no real details- just the fact that it had some cultural significance. This film is such a gem, especially to happen upon at 1am when you're 15 years old.

  • @julietteyork6293
    @julietteyork62935 ай бұрын

    Grace Kelly was already rail thin. She didn’t even have 10-15 lbs to lose. Insane remark. As for Raquel Welch, I had forgotten what a goddess she was. Wow.

  • @marvel096
    @marvel0969 ай бұрын

    OMG VALLEY OF THE DOLLS is one of my favorite movies ever!! I adored the book as well. This is all I ever wanted. I’m gonna watch it asap ❤ Edit: an interview with Lee Grant?? This is what dreams are made of!!

  • @jaengen
    @jaengen9 ай бұрын

    Patty Duke should have got an Oscar nom for VOTD. She was beyond fabulous!

  • @debbieharris5667

    @debbieharris5667

    9 ай бұрын

    " I AM Neely O' Hara!"

  • @isabellind1292

    @isabellind1292

    6 ай бұрын

    Patty Duke came into the woman's apparel store I worked at in Westport, CT and I had a difficult time trying to keep my composure. I'd seen her unforgettable performance in "The Miracle Worker" (for which she rec'd a Best Supporting Oscar) and all her acting roles were perfection. I probably shouldn't have asked for her autograph but when she warmly gestured she'd be happy to, I grabbed the first thing I could find which was the smallest customer bag under the counter which she signed along w/a HAPPY FACE.💓😊💓She was so sweet. (I still have the autograph, some 45 yrs on). RIP Patty Duke.🌹❤

  • @SkyeID

    @SkyeID

    2 ай бұрын

    they would have given her a Razzie if such a thing existed back then.

  • @johnnymfan5065

    @johnnymfan5065

    2 ай бұрын

    @@isabellind1292 What a beautiful story! Thanks for sharing!

  • @alpe1987
    @alpe19879 ай бұрын

    The fact that they wanted Barbra Streisand to make her film debut in VOTD is hysterical. She could’ve directed the whole film. Judy Garland avoided a catastrophe by not being in the film. I think she knew how closely this role was to her. She was already fragile and doing the film would’ve killed her earlier

  • @Bunny-ch2ul

    @Bunny-ch2ul

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm definitely a Barbra fan, but I think she'd have been dreadful beyond dreadful in VOTD. Barbra, especially 60s Barbra, was way, way, way to vain to do anything remotely like this. I feel like Barbra would have taken this from an incredibly entertaining bad movie to just a dreadful movie. Part of what makes VOTD so deeply compelling whether you love it or hate it is that all of the lead women are giving this movie 110% all at once, and Barbra wouldn't have matched that intensity. You'd lose the they're all having breakdowns while acting out having breakdowns quality. (As for Judy, she knew when she was being made fun of. Awful beyond awful to do that to her, and yes, she would have been horrendous in it. Which I'm sure she knew. Nothing about VOTD plays to any of her strengths whatsoever, and amping up the musical numbers would have been hideous. She was a bad choice on every conceivable level.)

  • @steveweinstein3222

    @steveweinstein3222

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Bunny-ch2ul I agree. Barbra Streisand looks as much like a Neely O'Hara as Steve Weinstein looks like a Robert Redford.

  • @user-cc6nb5th6x

    @user-cc6nb5th6x

    9 ай бұрын

    Barbra Streisand is possibly the worst actress I have ever seen.

  • @Bunny-ch2ul

    @Bunny-ch2ul

    9 ай бұрын

    @@user-cc6nb5th6x She's good at playing characters that are at least 75% herself. She also always insists on looking good. She's a super control freak about it. That wouldn't have worked for VOTD at all. She would have made it just bad bad, not even good bad.

  • @bethewalt7385

    @bethewalt7385

    9 ай бұрын

    Seriously !? That's a ridiculous comment, at that time Barbara was basically a teenager, had zero movie experience, do you think she was born with decades of experience, wisdom and directing ability? Absurd comment, smh, super cringe and irrational, Barbara grew into, developed into a great talent in that arena, but kiddo she wasn't at that time, she was a youngster just getting started

  • @pvl256
    @pvl2569 ай бұрын

    Good Lord - another example of spectacular story telling - bravo BKR. You can tell sad stories with respectful and even witty style that uplifts our memories of women who deserved better than they received. I'm looking forward to part 2

  • @beautyonabarnbudget
    @beautyonabarnbudget9 ай бұрын

    Gosh Tate was beautiful. What a tragedy. She deserved so much better. She also deserved a better husband

  • @tjh12473

    @tjh12473

    9 ай бұрын

    Polanski's downfall was a result of Tate's murder and of their unborn child. Also, he was going to plea guilty and then DA changed the deal. Also, the woman involved agreed and has stated that everything was consensual.

  • @tessdurberville711

    @tessdurberville711

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@tjh12473 Thank you.

  • @user-cc6nb5th6x

    @user-cc6nb5th6x

    9 ай бұрын

    @@tjh12473 That girl's mother threw her at Polanski. That's what I've been told.

  • @lunasolarii

    @lunasolarii

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@tjh12473by "woman" do you mean the 12 year old girl?

  • @tjh12473

    @tjh12473

    9 ай бұрын

    @@user-cc6nb5th6x I don't know the full story about the mother, but it does bring into question what type of parents allow a 13 year old to go to a party alone with a movie star's house.

  • @buzzawuzza3743
    @buzzawuzza37439 ай бұрын

    No one else in the world can make me watch and enjoy a video about something I don't care about at all like you can. I've never seen Valley Of The Dolls and most likely never will but right now I know more about it than I ever imagined. You have a serious talent.

  • @karlsokalski4234

    @karlsokalski4234

    9 ай бұрын

    On no you don't! You don't get away with not watching the movie (twice!) after this. If you don't watch it at least once, you'll have nightmares. Right after watching this I re-watched VOTD for the 11th (?) time just so I could sleep through the night. I used to travel a LOT for work and so often the offerings on planes were awful. So I'd pop open the laptop and start up either VOTD or Peyton Place. I often wondered what the person next to me was thinking if they happened to notice.

  • @buzzawuzza3743

    @buzzawuzza3743

    9 ай бұрын

    @@karlsokalski4234 I'll get to it right after I finish up watching every Deanna Durbin film in release order. Thanks for the warning.

  • @karlsokalski4234

    @karlsokalski4234

    9 ай бұрын

    @@buzzawuzza3743 OMG, Deanna Durbin! Judy Garland never mentioned her name without also saying that she had one big eyebrow that went straight across her face. LOL!

  • @lananieves4595
    @lananieves45959 ай бұрын

    Just the title excited me. When I was 8 yrs old my grandfather, who had English as his second language, found a copy of Valley of the Dolls and gave it to me to read. The title made him think it was a book for little girls. I devoured it. It wasn't long after that NYC's 4:30 movie featured Valley of the Dolls, and I fell even more in ove with the movie version.

  • @mojo500100

    @mojo500100

    9 ай бұрын

    Lol Cute story. (Bet your folks weren’t too thrilled with that at the time!) 😂

  • @missmercurys
    @missmercurys9 ай бұрын

    I never knew all of Patty's background. It is sad. Judy remindes me of Marilyn in that they both were considered difficult but when they were on they were pure magic.

  • @MichaelChong100
    @MichaelChong1009 ай бұрын

    Congrats on getting Lee Grant, one of your favorite actress on your interview about this camp classic! P/S: I actually believe Judy Garland CAN play Helen Lawson than playing Annie Oakley in Annie Get Your Gun. There’s some kind of divaness in Judy that makes me believe she can pull it off.

  • @TWRVA

    @TWRVA

    9 ай бұрын

    Maybe. But she never played an unsympathetic role in a movie. That was not her brand.

  • @en6278

    @en6278

    9 ай бұрын

    she is dead. hate to break the news

  • @MichaelChong100

    @MichaelChong100

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TWRVA even though it’s not her brand, but I think she can play it. Remember Bette Davis? Although she mostly played unfavorable characters, there’s Now Voyager and Dark Victory, where she played sympathetic characters very well. So I believe Judy Garland can play an unsympathetic role.

  • @BetterWithBob

    @BetterWithBob

    7 ай бұрын

    I'd agree that she could play it. I was in pro wrestling for four years - the scripted kind - and they taught us how it's actually much harder to play the heroic and sympathetic roles because you'll just come across as fake if you don't have it in you. About 80% of the people I trained with found it easier to play villains (or 'heels' as we call it) and it was pretty rare to encounter someone who played the fan favourite (or 'face') well and couldn't also play a decent heel. Olivia de Havilland herself said she preferred playing good girls because they required more work, and she was able to play a convincing villain in Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte I think because Judy was so good at playing sympathetic and vulnerable characters, and that she was a nice person in real life would mean she could play a villain if she had the chance. Considering how awful so many people were to her, she'd know exactly how someone like Helen would operate. And if I recall, in the book, Helen does fool Anne at first with a nice girl act, so that could have been an angle to use with Judy. If they'd had a director who bothered to make an effort with the material

  • @zakkaryzoah1386

    @zakkaryzoah1386

    7 ай бұрын

    I wish JG had been well enough to play it. She was a brilliant actress and could’ve played the role as a barracuda. Who knows? It could’ve been cathartic to let her inner bitch out!

  • @perryjones7771
    @perryjones77719 ай бұрын

    Rest In Peace Sharon.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy.9 ай бұрын

    If ‘Mommie Dearest’ was a Citizen Kane of camp, does that make ‘Valley of the Dolls’ the Gone With The Wind of camp? 7:42 I got my answer lmao

  • @maryk3458
    @maryk34589 ай бұрын

    I am always amazed that the orignal Peyton Place TV show is not on some rerun channel. It's hard to express how compelling and popular the show was in the 60s.

  • @wrmlm37

    @wrmlm37

    9 ай бұрын

    Probably impossible to do with a "serial" that you have to watch sequentially, if not EVERY episode:(

  • @Sandi-ke9mi
    @Sandi-ke9mi9 ай бұрын

    I grew up in the 60s. I love this movie. I read all of Jacqueline Susann‘s books. They are not literature. But they are a very entertaining look into that era. Lee Grant is a legend. 🥰 When I worked at UCLA Medical Center, I worked with Martin Ransohoff’s son that was a doctor there. One of the nicest and best doctors I ever worked with. 🥰 This was an amazing video. I am now a new subscriber. 🙏🏻🥰💕

  • @johnderosa2276

    @johnderosa2276

    9 ай бұрын

    Once is not Enough was like reading porn. I was 15 years old when I read it and felt my innocence was lost. The film disappeared into oblivion.

  • @B.Arthur
    @B.Arthur9 ай бұрын

    Not only another Lipsinka collab, but LEE GRANT HERSELF, I am in awe! Can’t wait!!! ❤

  • @TheSuzberry
    @TheSuzberry9 ай бұрын

    Boomer Patty Duke fan here. Thanks for a terrific first half.👍

  • @PeaceDragon9

    @PeaceDragon9

    4 ай бұрын

    The Miracle Worker. Patty and Ann Bancroft are both breath taking.

  • @ferociousgumby
    @ferociousgumby9 ай бұрын

    I looked at this and thought, it's more than an hour, it's only part one. . . it's going to seem longer than the movie. Then it went by in about TEN MINUTES. I didn't want it to end - so I'm glad it didn't and there's a Part 2!💜

  • @EastSide-qc5oy

    @EastSide-qc5oy

    9 ай бұрын

    Same. I barely noticed the time passing.

  • @ferociousgumby

    @ferociousgumby

    9 ай бұрын

    @@EastSide-qc5oy I'm trying to remember the last time this happened! Now I can't wait to see that delightfully awful movie again.

  • @jamesa.romano8500
    @jamesa.romano85009 ай бұрын

    Rona Jaffe's The Best of Everything and its 1959 movie version is probably the closest ancestor to Valley of the Dolls which is almost suspiciously similar in its format, almost like the formula was copied and pasted from the office setting of a publishing house to a show business setting. It almost lines up too perfectly character wise with Hope Lange's protagonist being similar to Barbara Parkins' Ann (and both rumored to be based on the authors themselves), Joan Crawford as Amanda Farrow basically being the Helen Lawson of paperback book publishing, Suzy Parker's and Sharon Tate's characters also line up although there's some similarity to Patty Duke/Neely in there as well. I personally find Best of Everything to be a little more "watchable" but that might just be because navigating office politics is just more relatable to be LOL EDIT: I wrote this before getting a full look at the vid's tying Peyton Place to Dolls - in a literal sense Peyton definitely has the strongest link to Valley of the Dolls, although I still think that The Best of Everything is the prototype that most closely resembles the story structure and characters in VotD

  • @lindamarshall3485

    @lindamarshall3485

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm always distracted watching them type, in this movie. So much typing, but they only use their first two fingers....That's not how touch typing works.

  • @jamesa.romano8500

    @jamesa.romano8500

    9 ай бұрын

    @@lindamarshall3485 I'm a millennial I think I've only even TOUCHED a literal typewriter once LOL. That being said Johnny Mathis' opening song is just so heartbreakingly beautiful that I have it on my road trip playlist, the cinematography makes NY look gorgeous, and Joan's Amanda Farrow is at least as compelling as Susan Hayward's Helen Lawson and is able to convey the kind of contradictory toughness and loneliness that I think they were striving for in Dolls. But viva la difference haha

  • @lindamarshall3485

    @lindamarshall3485

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jamesa.romano8500 I think of this movie as being on the cusp of the Hays code being abandoned. Women are still punished for being sexual outside of marriage, and for wanting anything but a husband and kids, but they are not *all* punished. There's a little give, and a little leeway. It's an interesting movie that more people should talk about.

  • @somethingclever8916

    @somethingclever8916

    9 ай бұрын

    Forever amber by Kathleen Windsor was the shocking ancestor before Peyton place and Valley.

  • @bbdupon
    @bbdupon9 ай бұрын

    All your documentaries have been outstanding, but this trip through the pre-production on VALLEY OF THE DOLLS is, unlike the film, a masterpiece! Part Two will be great as well, I will wager.

  • @-catalina-2698
    @-catalina-26989 ай бұрын

    YES YES YES OMG I just opened KZread and my jaw dropped when I saw this, I’m so excited! I literally love anything Valley related and just researching more about the making of the film ahh. I finished reading Stephen Rebello’s book, “Dolls! Dolls! Dolls!” over the summer so this is such a good follow up video for me. Your research is always so insightful 💕💊

  • @chrisdockum1189
    @chrisdockum11899 ай бұрын

    Judy singing I’ll Plant My Own Tree is one of my absolute favorite tracks of hers. A queen.

  • @BroadwayBabyyy744
    @BroadwayBabyyy7449 ай бұрын

    consider myself an expert about this and miss susann as a whole. thank you for shining a light on this backstory. one of my favorite books and movies. Ms Grant is suchan underrated legend to me, such a great star. ty for featuring the thames interview, one of the great ones.

  • @collinbean3765
    @collinbean37659 ай бұрын

    I'm working on homework and decide I deserve a little a break and suddenly BKR posted a video 39 seconds ago! The angels are good to me

  • @Wyrd__cat
    @Wyrd__cat9 ай бұрын

    I discovered this movie through a documentary on “Concluding Chapter of Crawford” and knew I had to see it for myself. Ngl, I adore it. Sharon Tate has such an ethereal quality to her, which makes it harder to think about what happened later. The film itself is an utter train wreck but an endearing train wreck with a few truly sad moments (that duet Tony does with Neely still makes me misty lmao). Great video! I look forward to part 2

  • @pattongilbert
    @pattongilbert9 ай бұрын

    I love it so much when you do huge historical retrospectives like this about a single actor, award, or movie. I can already tell that these will be two of my very favorite documentaries of yours.😊

  • @henrydurocher7443
    @henrydurocher74437 ай бұрын

    We need a Todd Haynes HBO miniseries adaptation of Valley of the Dolls. Imagine it being faithful to the period in the book and with quality actors and a strong vision behind it all.

  • @Nikki-tx6kh

    @Nikki-tx6kh

    2 ай бұрын

    You know Helen would be either Julianne or Kate.

  • @MissMeggarz142
    @MissMeggarz1429 ай бұрын

    What a great birthday present! Happy 39th to me! Just finished Judy Garland's book "Be Happy"...must read for anyone that is curious of her dominance from birth to her untimely death. Again , Thank You!! 🤗💜

  • @mcbear2543
    @mcbear25439 ай бұрын

    This was marvellous. Patty Duke was my childhood icon but I was only 7 1/2 when the movie came out. The network television debut (heavily edited of course) was in the early 70s and I just was mesmerized watching it and thought Patty Duke was brilliant! I read the book when I was 13 and couldn’t get over how different it was in that it spanned 20 years (1945-1965) and how much more in depth the characters and storylines were. All through my teens and early twenties when I would get my hands on the new TV Guide the first thing I would do was go through the whole week to see if Valley of the Dolls was on the late show and if it was I’d be watching it. I also read all of Jacqueline Susann’s books and was old enough (15) to see the first run release of Once is not Enough. Sweet memories and I’m looking forward to part 2 ❤

  • @PeaceDragon9

    @PeaceDragon9

    4 ай бұрын

    If you love Patty, try The Miracle Worker. Breath taking.

  • @jdwrink
    @jdwrink9 ай бұрын

    Now that you have done Mommie Dearest, and are in the process of covering Valley of the Dolls, you have to complete the camp trilogy and cover Showgirls.

  • @bubblegumbitch2191

    @bubblegumbitch2191

    6 ай бұрын

    She would nail a video on showgirls talking about the success of Verhovans films and the context to why Elizabeth Berkly would have thought it had been a success and how she deconstructs the American dream and subverting the usual arks to success we expect all parts of the film both in and out of its context are camp

  • @chiarac3833

    @chiarac3833

    6 ай бұрын

    That film is a classic. Too bad so many don't see it.

  • @alim.9801

    @alim.9801

    6 ай бұрын

    Yess omg!!

  • @TrangPakbaby
    @TrangPakbaby9 ай бұрын

    Barbara Parkins was absolutely gorgeous and that voice ❤❤

  • @jeffkiper8199

    @jeffkiper8199

    9 ай бұрын

    YES! that voice.

  • @stj971

    @stj971

    9 ай бұрын

    Whatever happened to her?

  • @TrangPakbaby

    @TrangPakbaby

    9 ай бұрын

    @@stj971 she’s into photography now, still just as fabulous. She did an interview abt 2 yrs ago with the gentleman who runs her Facebook fan page. It’s on KZread. I’m still so upset that audible didn’t commission her to do the narration on the VOTD’s release.

  • @slowdancers
    @slowdancers9 ай бұрын

    as a Sharon fan I am so excited fro you to dive in full into this, especially in part 2 when you get into the nightmare that was shooting this movie for all of them...much love! x

  • @fernandoiriarte892
    @fernandoiriarte8929 ай бұрын

    I cannot even begin to comprehend how you manage to put these videos together. I am amazed. Thank you for your work, I've learned so much. You are truly the best film KZreadr ever.

  • @blahdeblaaah9445
    @blahdeblaaah94459 ай бұрын

    The last thing Judy garland should have been doing was performing. She needed to go into intense therapy and lay low for ten years. The very nature of how she chose to earn a living in the 60s was the antithesis of what she needed. ❤️

  • @jackjules7552

    @jackjules7552

    9 ай бұрын

    Garland badly needed the cash. She owed everyone including the unmerciful IRS. She couldn't afford to lay low for any amount of time.

  • @PungiFungi

    @PungiFungi

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jackjules7552I don’t know who handled her finances but the taxes she owed to the IRS had them hounded her to the grave.

  • @TWRVA

    @TWRVA

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@PungiFungiher managers embezzled her money and didn't pay her taxes...and totally got away with it.

  • @jackiepowell7513

    @jackiepowell7513

    23 күн бұрын

    AA its just a buck.

  • @outinsider
    @outinsider9 ай бұрын

    I got so excited when I got a ding from BKR, and saw this subject. It took me four days, but I love this, and cannot wait for part 2! I had no idea Patty Duke's backstory, and this gave me interest to read her memoir. I actually think her Neely O'Hara is one of her best dramatic performances, regardless of the film's campy legacy. Camp can be good. Also, congrats on your Lee Grant interview! I'm so glad she is still with us and I got a sense that when her social media liked and shared your video on her, that was coming. Eagerly awaiting part 2!

  • @JaymesMansfield
    @JaymesMansfield6 ай бұрын

    I’ve come back to this set of videos several times, they are masterpieces ❤

  • @bkrewind

    @bkrewind

    6 ай бұрын

    🥰🥰🥰

  • @andrewvail5458
    @andrewvail54589 ай бұрын

    Wow. You got Lee Grant!!!! Thanks for another outstanding video. 👏🎬

  • @dompy1
    @dompy19 ай бұрын

    I so enjoy your videos. Each one is like a mini doco; meticulously researched and presented with clarity, intelligence. I especially like it when I'm surprised by a nugget of information that somehow escaped even a die hard Hollywood maven like myself! Keep up the great work!

  • @kamophalatse3933
    @kamophalatse39339 ай бұрын

    Can we talk about the eerie scene where Jennifer's body was wheeled from her house after her suicide and how there are pics of Sharon's body being taken in the same manner after her death. I remember thinking the suicide scene was very eerie

  • @somethingclever8916

    @somethingclever8916

    9 ай бұрын

    Always thought it was a telling statement about how dirty Hollywood journalism is.

  • @fob1xxl
    @fob1xxl9 ай бұрын

    A very good look into "Valley Of The Dolls". I still love the movie and will watch it any time it's on TV. Never have these women looked so beautiful. This IS a classic !

  • @missgoldie2763
    @missgoldie27639 ай бұрын

    All of your video essays are insightful and interesting. Thanks for casting your gaze to this absolute camp classic!

  • @Farzee49
    @Farzee499 ай бұрын

    I grew up watching The Patty Duke Show on Nick at Nite in the 1980s when the programming was only B/W sitcoms from the 50s and 60s. We loved that show and I'm such a fan of Anna's. I read her biography years ago, and this awesome video has me wanting to reread her story...I'm looking for the happy ending, of course.

  • @patrikio88
    @patrikio889 ай бұрын

    Hooray! A new video! You probably have 9000 planned that you can’t get to but if I might throw another on the pile I’d love a deep dive on the character actresses of Clue. Or just a whole Madeline Kahn piece

  • @SimonWright1995

    @SimonWright1995

    9 ай бұрын

    Omg a Madeline Kahn piece 😍😍

  • @beverlyledbetter4906

    @beverlyledbetter4906

    9 ай бұрын

    Sharon Tate was perfect as Jennifer North. I found her character the most effective, which is rare for me because I've never been a big fan but she left me with a different view!😐

  • @fanofmusicals

    @fanofmusicals

    9 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't mind a video about Lesley Ann Warren.

  • @eddieboyky
    @eddieboyky9 ай бұрын

    Every single video on the channel is a special treat for film history buffs, but you just outdid yourself here. Can't wait for Part 2.

  • @CollinKelley
    @CollinKelley9 ай бұрын

    This is FANTASTIC! Can’t wait for part two. Now I have to go rewatch “VoD”. Sparkle, Neely, sparkle!

  • @Biboche23
    @Biboche239 ай бұрын

    This is yet again another reminder of why we all love your channel. I am definitely one the lovers of this captivating camp classic ❤ Also as a vintage lover of fashion, film, imagery and pop culture of the 60s/70s era from a young age, this film definitely fed into all i just mentioned. Thank you for this in depth foray❤

  • @lorimcbrayer8431
    @lorimcbrayer84319 ай бұрын

    I remember my sister being a fan of singer Dionne Warwick, and Dionne sung the theme for Valley of the Dolls.

  • @MaureenDeVries-wd9mh

    @MaureenDeVries-wd9mh

    9 ай бұрын

    Me, too!

  • @marcbronson3692
    @marcbronson36929 ай бұрын

    Your narration flows smoothly and writing informs with great tidbits. Especially enjoyed fashion montages both concepts and actually used pieces. Terrific work!

  • @HYSON3KITTY
    @HYSON3KITTY9 ай бұрын

    The quality of the editing and your narration on this video are at a extremely high standard.

  • @principeturandot4593
    @principeturandot45939 ай бұрын

    I saw Barbra Streisand in the thumbnail and immediately had to watch. I already knew Streisand was one of the big names back then they originally thought of getting for the film (she was a megastar even before the movie version of Funny Girl), but I still wanted to hear the whole story again. Great video. Looking forward to part 2! PS: Love that you got to interview Lee Grant!

  • @user-tp1ph5uw4m

    @user-tp1ph5uw4m

    28 күн бұрын

    Barbra Streisand wouldn’t have had the vulnerability needed for Neely O’Hara in the early part of Neely’s life. Barbra seems more calculating and in control.

  • @StagedRight
    @StagedRight9 ай бұрын

    Spectacular! Cannot wait till Part 2!

  • @robinstevenson6690
    @robinstevenson66909 ай бұрын

    Another brilliant video essay. Very thought-provoking. I love the way you start out with an idea about a film and then widen it in a way that illuminates the history of hollywood, and the history of society (and of us) during an era, as broad as the 20th century itself.

  • @fippo3564
    @fippo35649 ай бұрын

    can’t wait to watch part 2!

  • @trinifernandez8870
    @trinifernandez88709 ай бұрын

    I'm so excited for part 2 already. This movie's story is so interesting

  • @LostCommenter7
    @LostCommenter79 ай бұрын

    Fabulous video as always and I can't wait for part 2. It's so interesting here you go over the actresses meta relation of sort with their roles. My friend and I quote Valley all the time so it's got a very special place in my heart.

  • @Kimberley_Black_White_TV
    @Kimberley_Black_White_TV9 ай бұрын

    Just found your channel and I am loving this deep, DEEP dive! Can't wait to watch your other work. Thank you for all of this! xo

  • @kevinryan4857
    @kevinryan48579 ай бұрын

    This is as riveting as it is brilliant. Thank you for your meticulous research and very committed work.

  • @DavidN369
    @DavidN3699 ай бұрын

    BKR videos are always exceptional; this is Next Level Brilliant. Can not wait for Part 2, wherein one presumes the elision of Martin Milner from the inspired summation of the male actors will be addressed. Brava bravissima, mille grazie, bis.

  • @PrettyTigerlilly
    @PrettyTigerlilly9 ай бұрын

    This dropped at such a perfect time! I'm at home doing a project on my PC and have this to listen to in the background while I work, so happy!

  • @user-kv2tj4du8p
    @user-kv2tj4du8p9 ай бұрын

    brilliant work as always. you really are a marvelous filmmaker and historian. you have such a wonderful mix of scholarship, an old-fashioned love of the movies, intelligence, and humor. but I have to say, most importantly, your taste is impeccable. the pieces you examine. the actresses you profile. your understanding of how film works within a cultural context-all of these things are informed by your excellent taste. and taste is scary and elusive. you can't really teach it, or explain it, or even buy it. you have it or you don't. and you very much have it. thanks again!

  • @lindahughes2289
    @lindahughes22899 ай бұрын

    I love VOD. All the actors were awesome and the story engaging !

  • @eendsofthearth
    @eendsofthearth9 ай бұрын

    Incredible video as always, definitely excited for Part 2

  • @adamboswell5533
    @adamboswell55339 ай бұрын

    This was absolute perfection, thank you so much for your hard work. I feel your video should be required watching after one finishes the book and movie. I cannot wait for part 2!

  • @kxnzy98
    @kxnzy989 ай бұрын

    omg i didn’t know how much i needed this video. and it’s only part one!!

  • @AznRUs
    @AznRUs9 ай бұрын

    The cut to Patty Duke turning her head after all the background dancers were working up a storm was too funny.

  • @samuelatencioj.3367
    @samuelatencioj.33679 ай бұрын

    I absolutely adore the first part of "The Valley of the Dolls" documentary! The storytelling and insights into the making of this iconic film are simply captivating. I can hardly contain my excitement for the second part 🎬😃

  • @robertkirby4822
    @robertkirby48229 ай бұрын

    omg so good. I can't wait for part 2! So appreciate this deep dive into one of my favorite movies.

  • @BryonyClaire
    @BryonyClaire9 ай бұрын

    Ok i loved this so much, i looked down at the time near the end and was shocked how much time had passed! So thoroughly done as always

  • @BTheTrue
    @BTheTrue9 ай бұрын

    I grew up in Nigeria and went to boarding school there.. in the 80s/90s When i tell you Valley of the Dolls was such a popular book that we all desperately shared and passed around...😊

  • @alanaadams7440
    @alanaadams74408 ай бұрын

    I really liked Remmick she was a good actress

  • @MrBuckwinston
    @MrBuckwinston9 ай бұрын

    This was fantastic. Can’t wait for part 2.

  • @blouburkette
    @blouburkette9 ай бұрын

    On needles and pins for part two!! Such great work! I spent quite a bit of money on a film degree and I have learned FAR more about film from watching this channel. Thanks BKR!

  • @ldp0567
    @ldp05679 ай бұрын

    I loved the snippet of Jacqueline Susann's interview with Barbara Frum, an exemplar of the uniquely Canadian brand of condescension.

  • @davidkaiser
    @davidkaiser9 ай бұрын

    BeKindRewind: I have watched some of your Oscar productions. I enjoyed them, but to be quite frank, as I tend to be, I often thought they dragged a bit. With this one, I think you have really found your best format. You manage to make it a portrait of a whole era as well as of a single film. I can think of lots of other movies that might lend themselves to similar productions. Great job! Looking forward to others!

  • @LHSnLA
    @LHSnLA9 ай бұрын

    This was so awesome - I can't wait for part two!!!

  • @dawnbeforethedusk
    @dawnbeforetheduskАй бұрын

    Obsessed!!!! I've been dying for a series on Valley of the Dolls.. part 2 watchings are now

  • @kalebchavez3279
    @kalebchavez32799 ай бұрын

    THANK Y💜 SO much for this Amazing documentary... Obsessed with Valley Of The Dolls... im So excited for Part 2!!🍸💊 🍸

  • @maggieb369
    @maggieb3699 ай бұрын

    I love the book, the film and the theme song. What a combo! 😊

  • @anthonyleberto6101
    @anthonyleberto61019 ай бұрын

    Wow! I’m such a fan of this film and have been obsessed since I was 8 years old. I can’t tell how ecstatic I am that you’re covering this. I’m also a MAJOR FAN of your work! BRAVA!!! Anthony L

  • @adrielayson749
    @adrielayson7499 ай бұрын

    A one hour video from my fav youtuber??? HELL YEAH!!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT CONTENT

  • @alanaadams7440
    @alanaadams74408 ай бұрын

    When I was a kid I remember watching Peyton Place on TV

  • @CrystalWilliamsoncoach
    @CrystalWilliamsoncoach9 ай бұрын

    Never clicked on a vid so fast!! Where have you been BKR??!! What's interesting -- the 3 main actresses' life & careers went the same way as their characters in the film

  • @DamienHurts
    @DamienHurts9 ай бұрын

    You are my favorite KZreadr, bar NONE. I can’t believe how thoroughly consistent you are with talking about actresses and films I can’t wait to learn more about. Thank you thank you thank you