What a learning experience, extremely interesting

@thecinnabar8442

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Thanks Terry!

As you said due to the fact the original barrel is unusable and unsafe a new barrel is a great option. Just imagine hunting small game with that historical rifle. What a joy.

Please keep these educational videos coming.

That was pretty interesting

Ive never done a chamber casting but it looks pretty straight forward. Great video.

Have a barrel blank made up with the correct rifling, turn, machine whatever you need to do and finally chamber it and you'll have yourself really nice Barrel.

I have no idea how YouScrewed knew I needed to watch this but WOW! I bought a 1911 after being told it was chambered in 9x23 Winchester from the factory. Talked to importer and no, was 9mm Luger originally. Now I need to get a casting of the chamber to determine whether or not it has enough leade. 9x23 chamber pressure runs at 50,000 psi so it’s no joke to hold in your hand. Thank you! I learned several important details that never would’ve occurred to me, staring with preheating the barrel.

@thecinnabar8442

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Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!

@russbilzing5348

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Could it be that the 1911 was in .38 super, originally? If I recall correctly, that miked out close to the 9x23mm.

@chipsterb4946

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@@russbilzing5348 no, the importer specifically said 9mm Luger. Also 38 Super is a straight walled case while 9x23 is tapered so 38 Super chamber is both smaller and larger in different places. Plus leade should be much longer for 9x23.

An excellent demonstration on chamber casting! I have used hard wax , which gives a very nice finish, but shrinkage can be an issue which determines the material used. As you say, with a badly damaged chamber and worn rifling a new barrel is the only option, an ideal candidate for a new barrel as having been extensively refinished it has little antique value, but can give a lot of pleasure to the owner when it is re barreled. Chris B.

Love the content. Hope all is well with you and your family. Looking forward to what you put out next.

Looking forward to your next one

Learned a bunch. Thanks.

Great tip on pesky stuck screws you're giving away trade secrets

Just curious but could you remove the barrel and do a chamber liner given the rifling is good enough to make it viable?

@thecinnabar8442

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Yes, but that's one of the options I dismissed since the rifling is marginal and the barrel has been polished down so far. If we're going to put work into that carbine, the owner would like to put it into a presentable barrel.

I learned something

Another great video Mark!

Love the old cowboy guns.

Right decision to let that lame horse out to pasture. Hopefully someone watching this video has a line on a barrel. Can't get enough of your videos about those old guns. Thanks Mark.

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank!

Thanks for such an informative video.

Great Video!!

very good, friend from Brazil big hug accompanied I always know beautiful knowledge, thank you for the teachings

Excellent vid. Thank you.

I'm still after one of them rifles mate , one day I'll get one . Really hard to find here in Australia 🇦🇺

I really enjoy these videos. I now have a win 92 made in 1907 that was converted to 357 mag. It is smooth and seems to have rarely been taken apart because every part was on there good and it also locked up tightly. Though I still have to test how well it was converted feeding wise.

@johnnorman7708

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92 Winchester converted to .357 Magnum was a big popular conversion long before Marlin ever coughed up a new .357 Mag. carbine. The .32-20 guns made the transition to .357 pretty good. There were also .44 Magnum conversions too. I think the .38-40 and .44-40 guns made that transition pretty good too.

Very Interesting!!! Great Video once again!! 👍👍

@thecinnabar8442

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Thanks Benjy!

That’s was fascinating. How is it I’ve only just now discovered your channel!

@thecinnabar8442

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Welcome aboard! Glad you found us.

enjoy these videos👍👍👍👍

some things to think about, 1 reline the chamber only? 2 if there is still factory barrel markings that should be saved? then reline barrel, 3 or new barrel if the cost is OK. many years ago, I missed out on an engraved 66 only 5 miles from where I grow up! Have only used sulfur for chamber casting as that all was available, works good. Thanks for your channel, just the best.

@thecinnabar8442

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That's what I was alluding to when I was talking about the marginal bore and extensively polished barrel limiting our options to a rebarrel. I wouldn't put that kind of work into the barrel unless it was a somewhat presentable example.

THANK YOU SIR

you could re-line the barrel, and ream a new chamber

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but the outside of that barrel's been so polished down, it's not worth fixing. That old carbine deserves a more presentable barrel. The other issue is that nobody makes a barrel liner for 44 Henry. It has a larger bore diameter than 44-40

Thanks for the video, it’s a shame about that chamber though, still it sure is a neat rifle

Great video like you said casting a chamber isn’t a very hard process new barrel or a wall hanger……

Reminds me of the .44 S&W American, the heeled bullet rimmed cartridge (albeit center fire), which was the precursor to the .44 Russian which developed into the .44 Special and ultimately .44 magnum (and one could go further and say .444 Marlin).

@thecinnabar8442

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I think you're right. I've read that the 44 Russian was based on the 44 Henry cartridge.

@exothermal.sprocket

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@@thecinnabar8442 History of rimfire is interesting. They made some pretty large bore rimfire cartridges.

Hi, Thx for this very interesting video as always. I have a side question: How about a video on how you reload a Henry rimfire shell from A to Z? Thx. Keep going.

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to. Sadly, KZread policy no longer allows us to show how to manufacture ammunition.

@oasis6444

Жыл бұрын

@@thecinnabar8442 Too bad. Do you have any other web site where you could post this type of video? It would be great for a lot of people to be able to benefit from your valuable experience. And for me, to be able to shoot an original 1860 Henry and 1866 Winchester. Thx again for all your vids.

Are you using old casings or are new ones being made. What are you using for a priming compound?

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

Original cases with Prime-all

A few questions. Could the barrel be sleeved? Where do you find .44RF ammo? How do you re-prime and reload it? I buy obsolete rimfire ammo when I find it if the prices are not too high, even if I don't have a firearm to chamber it. And, are my ears playing tricks on me or did I hear cattle mooing in the background?

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the barrel could be sleeved, but I would only do that if it was in decent condition on the exterior. This old carbine deserves a presentable barrel. I reloaded that ammo from original cases and Prime-all.

@3ducs

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@@thecinnabar8442 Thank-you. I'll have to look into Prime-all. There are thousands of fine old firearms that could be used if only there was ammo for them.

How do you reload Rimfire rounds? if you could make a video of how you do it , would help . thank you

that was interesting.. 👍👍

I know this show is from a year ago and i see yours looking for a barrel for that 1866 go to homestead rifle parts in Florida they gave parts for all old rifles

That old rifle has seen some rough times. If it were mine it would be hung on the wall.

Very interesting video. I would be interested to see how you went from centerfire back to rimfire. Also, since the rifle has no collector value, could you make it a 45 colt?

@rgbgamingfridge

Жыл бұрын

probably plugged and welded the cf hole and replaced firing pin

I wonder if replacing the bolt on that 66 winchester with the bolt from a 73 winchester would work. You might be able to fire 44 russian out of that 66 if the 73 bolt swap works.

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

The bolt that was in it had been converted to centerfire and I had to convert it back to rimfire for our ammo testing. I could easily convert it back.

@blueduck9409

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@@thecinnabar8442 In any case, i enjoyed the video very much. I love those old rifles. Im glad to see people restoring them and bringing them back to life. Making 44 rim fire ammo must be labor intensive. Have you made a video on doing that? Keep up the good work!

Great video. Thanks for not using effects and music in your editing. Video's are a lot easier to hear and understand. (I have a bad hearing problem). I would like to ask a question(a little off subject, still firearm related). I'm just a old poor boy and I like to make stuff with my hands. I know there's lots of videos on here, where they make slam-fire shotguns. I have lots of spent hulls to play with. I'm thinking of two homemade shotguns. One will be a muzzleloader and a break open shotgun and use Black Powder. Now to the question, would a piece of .095 tubing work for a barrel, if loaded with light loads? The tubing I have is a welded seam tubing, not pipe. A 12 gauge hull fits in it pretty good. The muzzleloader will use 209 primers in a nipple. Question 2 if the tubing I have will not work would black iron or galvanize water pipe work?

What I would give to see those 44. henry rimfire you made fired out of a original 1860 Henry rifle. To bad the value of those rifles are absolutely ridiculous.

@thecinnabar8442

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Keep an eye out. We keep getting closer.

Just wondering, if the rifling in this carbine had been in better condition....would it be possible to ream out the chamber, sleeve it and then re-chamber it to the proper dimensions?

Great video. Couldn't that barrel be lined?

Was the .44 Henry rimfire to .44 Henry centerfire a period correct common conversion like was seen on the various conversions of cap and ball revolvers to cartridge?

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

Winchester offered 1866's in 44 Henry centerfire at the very end of production. When the centerfire ammo became available, many 1866's were converted to centerfire.

@johnnorman7708

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@@thecinnabar8442 Was that just bolt swap out to make the conversion?

Good video. Where are you located?

How do you get your ammo? Thought the .44 Henry was extinct!

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

I cast the bullets and loaded it myself.

@robertoservadei4766

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@@thecinnabar8442 That's a given, what i cant understand is how you reload a rimfire cartridge. I know it can be done by ironing the inside of the rim and filling the void with priming compound but it is extremely laborious.

I know KZread doesn't like instructional videos but have you done a video on priming rimfire cartridges? I've heard you can reload .22lr and am fascinated with the idea!

@thecinnabar8442

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I have videotaped the process, but KZread prohibits content showing the ammunition manufacturing process. It sucks, but I'm trying to stay off their radar.

@chrislang5659

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@@thecinnabar8442 nobody can blame you for that!

Thank Goodness you're shooting behind locked gates on a large ranch. That sounds like it should be a law for everyone.

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if you're being sincere or sarcastic. That disclaimer is there because KZread wants all shooting videos to take place on ranges. I don't want to give them an excuse to pull my videos because they claim I'm not shooting safely while I'm all alone on a large piece of property.

that was certainly interesting. too bad that ol rifle has been mistreated but it sure makes ya wonder how it got that way. i dont get too upset when i find worn out old tools. makes me think they got used. thats what tools are for. hope that one was used well and not just neglected. but that might be an interesting story aswell. i seem to remember you having two 66s there at the cinnabar. are those in good enough condition to test?

@thecinnabar8442

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Yes, but I'm not inclined to use unmolested originals for cartridge test rifles.

@timberdrifter8225

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@@thecinnabar8442 ah, i understand.

Can you sleeve that barrel like you can do with a .22 rimfire?

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

Of course, but the outside of this barrel was as bad as the inside, having been badly rusted and all the markings buffed off. The profile is now undersized as well. Only option for this one is a new barrel. I'm having one made now.

@gilbertdelgado6703

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark for your reply. I guess the reason these rifles get in that condition in the first place is ignorance. It’s a shame!

I have a 1892 made in 1894 I am about to do a chamber cast because the rifle is shooting badly. The bore looks pretty good but I have made a strange discovery which is I can fit 4bullet heads in the chamber and still chamber a round. This doesn’t seem right to me as I thought the rifling should start soon after the cartridge is in the chamber? Any ideas? Does this mean that the bore is worn oversized or do I need a bigger bullet, I slugged the bore to .430?

@thecinnabar8442

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Yes, that's far too much freebore (space between chamber & rifling). You shouldn't be able to fit any bullets into that area when you chamber a round. You're on the right track by making a chamber casting. Just make sure to make the cast is long enough to show what's going on in the area in front of the chamber.

@alamosabill201

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⁠Thanks for the reply, if it turns out the chamber is enlarged then is there any remedy to shoot reasonable groups or is it indeed just a wall hanger. I bought it to shoot occasionally.The problem buying an antique is if it looks good you just have to take a chance you cannot know what’s going on inside, what would you do?

@alamosabill201

Жыл бұрын

Another discovery when pushing a rolled up paper through supposedly should stop at the lands but mine goes straight through so how do I know where to stop the paper wad for casting? Also when I measure the internal diameter at the crown it comes out at .436-7, would this suggest the the bore and chamber have been so over shot that a much bigger bullet is needed.? Also how big can you go in a Starline 44-40 case?

@thecinnabar8442

Жыл бұрын

To be honest, it doesn't sound like there's much hope for your barrel. I'd cast the chamber to the depth of the cartridge plus the length of four bullets you mentioned will fit in front of it. You shouldn't even try to fit .436-.437 bullets in a 44-40 case. From what you've described, you'll likely need to have your barrel relined or replaced.

@alamosabill201

Жыл бұрын

@@thecinnabar8442hanks, I’m not giving up yet, the bore is pretty damn good, tried it today and the results were no better but it seems to like Swiss 1 and 2 better than the Swiss 3 id been using, as the slug is .429 I’m going to try a ..431 bullet and take it from there.. Cheers

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I have drilled out and re lined multiple guns barrels … Or as you said… replacement barrel.

nice. simple wax works also for chamber casting.