A very well handled response James! Really appreciate the way you manage your own content and communicate with everybody. Not to further stir the pot, and if you end up deleting this comment I can understand why, but you probably know that Richard Formidoni was also a product and marketing specialist/manager at Korg before he joined Casio, and we often see him demoing Korg products not only by Korg also for other well-known American music stores like Kraft Music and Sweetwater. It's his livelihood to promote all the positive aspects of any products he's given to handle. Although Casio is perhaps an equally successful company and have had ventures in developing electronic/digital instruments, their portfolio and market share is no where near Korg. And with Casio's music stuff for a good part not being taken seriously, it's understandable that they employed a really well-known product demonstrator like Rich to prop up their reputation. But I didn't think it would go this way.

@ThePianoforever

4 жыл бұрын

I stated in the video that I thought Rich was a good guy and I didn't feel anyone should take what was said by either party personally. Rich, I believe, was just doing his job and candidly, I was as well. As I have said before I believe that Casio now stands in a fork in the road and I hope they decide to challenge the market to make some really great instruments. This could really have been quite a competitive instrument, and even the action's other flaw with the fulcrum is a bit more forgiveable, in my opinion. They could use all of this to their advantage and I think Rich could help them lead the way.

@CalvinLimuel

4 жыл бұрын

ThePianoforever I agree. They definitely have potential and they’ve also been winning some blind tests, hopefully they can do even better

@aquario3

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePianoforever Hello James I love your videos and reviews basically because you are passionate and honest in your comments. I don’t know why Rich don’t talk with Casio about this big issue, however I hope every week new reviews from you because I’d like to buy a digital piano to back in my lessons after a lot of time , please would be possible to do some review about the keyboard hammer action from some workstation like Yamaha modx 8, korg Kronos 88, etc perhaps is not your area but could be a great comparative at least to a lot people that want to buy a workstation with this kind of keyboard. Sorry for my English because I’m Argentinian. Regards. Guillermo

@ThePianoforever

4 жыл бұрын

I am planning on expanding my series to include a great deal more instruments and should include workstations in the future.

@CalvinLimuel

4 жыл бұрын

Guiye Ledesma I agree! And no worries your English is really good! Quizá mejor que mi español

PLEASE take it apart.

@youregrammersucks

4 жыл бұрын

liam Or buy the 1000 and take that apart cos it’s cheaper :-)

@stuartandrews4344

4 жыл бұрын

I'll second that...

@kon-stan-tin

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, show us what it hides inside!

@FulvioGa

4 жыл бұрын

That is not necessary as you can see on their site how it is inside: music.casio.com/en/products/digital_pianos/privia/#tech As you can see, it is quite complex.

@martian-sunset

4 жыл бұрын

@@FulvioGa Good catch. Lots of detail there. Looks like they had to modify the action to accommodate the smaller size.

I'm actually laughing out loud right now - Casio have now disabled comments on their video because they were getting a lot of negative comments about their response to you - after claiming that you delete all comments that 'don't support your agenda'... the irony is too perfect.

@MisterMajister

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously, that's almost embarrassing... Be true to your word and your customer.

The Casio salesman's comment about not discussing the action reminded me of a cartoon in one of the audio magazines years ago. A guy is setting up a large new speaker and spots a label on the back that says "Do not open - danger of shock." So of course he pulls the back off the big cabinet, only to find a single tiny little speaker and another label that says "Told you you'd be shocked!"

@jameskerr9509

4 жыл бұрын

ProFriend 😂

@dougbrowning82

4 жыл бұрын

@@ammoalamo6485 Remember those Bose 901s that sounded horrible unless you used the special equalizer that came with them?

@ilpatongi

4 жыл бұрын

Doug Browning That’s quite different, Bose never claimed they would sound the same without the active EQ.

@SpencerTwiddy

4 жыл бұрын

that cartoon really hit the nail on the head, dang

@j.j.1064

3 жыл бұрын

Love the irony. I saw a cartoon of a suggestion box that was overflowing and a suggestion that was poked half way into the slot that read "suggestion; "box needs emptying"

Instead of posting 'he's a liar!', they should go like 'dang, that's the kind of fella we need to give us feedback to help and improve our product, create an even better reputation and ultimately sell more pianos'. Just a guy giving his opinion... realizing he might be subjective, so additionally approaches it with objective and highly regarded testing methods! Some companies and people always get so defensive. Like, chill, it wasn't an attack. Nobody's going 'hey, what can we find to hate on in life today?!', that would be miserable. That's the beauty of your channel, James! You really give us a fair rundown of every thing that's out there, so we can draw our own conclusions for what suits us best.

@UltimatePwnageNL

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure Casio already knew about this, the engineers are salty about it, but management decided that the properly weighted keys are too expensive to make / not worth some kind of tradeoff to them, and vetoed the decision. 99% of these "they should hire this critic" cases are actually either "they know and just dont care" or "quality control sucks and they dont care"

The truth is aching. They made fulcrum too short and reduced weighting of black keys to make them even "pressable". Casio is not gonna like you anymore but your reviews are one of the best, truly from a pianist perspective. BTW I can see P515 underneath. Please check it's downweight, I'm very curious for your measurement.

@anthonydoan1991

4 жыл бұрын

It ain't like he's getting sponsor by Casio. They can join that Australian dude in the dislike bucket.

@bouxesas2046

4 жыл бұрын

P515 has probably the heaviest downweight on the market but many people actually like that. It must be about 70 grams if I remember correctly.

@richardradzinsky2755

4 жыл бұрын

Faster key return does not hinder skill development or learning progress.

@aakash9058

4 жыл бұрын

After a few weeks of ownership, I returned my P515. The keys just felt too stiff and heavy. It sounded great, though.

@AGAU1022

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds to me like they could probably be made heavier while still being pressable. Equal weights at the end wouldn't stop that.

Mad respect. The amount of detail you go into regarding the issues and Casio's responses is great

Let me see, who do I trust more, a big corporate company who have never made an acoustic piano, OR a guy who has been playing piano since 5 years old, and has played virtually every make of acoustic, digital and electronic organs as well as harpsichord,s and an whole bunch of other instruments?.. Hmmm , I think I would trust you more James, it’s kind of unprofessional and off putting to hear Casio,s response. I have worn their watches and used their calculators for years, I even had a little keyboard and had great fun with it, but come on guys man up and do the right thing!

@joseprieto2811

4 жыл бұрын

Neither Formidoni nor Martin (Casio"s faces} has the pianistic formation of this guy. Period.

@TheRedTech98

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with james 100%, but for casio to man up, it would probably mean a recall of all flawed units or at least a redesign, which is a financial toll they might not want to take. Although the impact on their reputation and respect as a company would probably be worse if they choose to continue with this action. I would amend the problem if i were casio

I truly cannot believe that their point is basically "the way everyone has always measured keys shouldn't apply to us." It's an intellectually dishonest response at really every level. And I'm a Casio owner (although less likely to stay one now when it's time to upgrade).

@mister-amazing

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I have a px-160, after 4 years it has 2 bad keys. Is that normal?

@gabharri910

4 жыл бұрын

Hey yall (Matthew and CJ). I am a Casio owner as well. I have a PX-5s, two PX-160's, CTK-4400, and a WK-7600. Although I've had these keyboards collectively around 5-6(ish) years, I've never had problems with them. I always was a fan of Casio boards because of their affordability, but I guess that comes at the cost of honesty. I will NEVER buy another Casio product. Not even a watch or calculator.

@gabharri910

4 жыл бұрын

@@mister-amazing Not normal at all. That's ridiculous and I would be mad.

@Particulator

4 жыл бұрын

"It's an intellectually dishonest response" I could not agree more, for a few seconds he sounded exactly like a flat earther, denying facts and trying but failing miserably to show he knows what he's talking about.

@HeCoversMe

4 жыл бұрын

Particulator yes and with a little yes man in his corner who can’t have an opinion but just agrees to everything Casio says.

JPS you’re the best. This seems like a cover up from Casio to try to dismiss an error they know they’ve made. Shame on them. I have always preferred Yamahas and this blatant cover up from Casio ensures I will NEVER buy their product. Thank you for your hard work.

This is why I love your review videos and trust them so much. You are clearly not afraid to state things honestly, even if or when the things you say aren't complimentary to the manufacturer. For these reasons, I value your opinions over those stated in reviews on other channels. Plus, I would love seeing the internals for a digital piano, so, I hope you choose to do the video you talked about, where you take this Casio apart.

It seems they have completely ignored that you "noticed" the unevenness of playing BEFORE you got out the weights. You "felt" the issue while playing. The weights simply helped us visualize it.

Did you hear that thunder in the background, James? The Casio gods are angry. Be thou ware... Seriously, though, their energy should be spent in admitting the problem, addressing the problem and thus making a much more salable product. Even if we bought their argument that there is nothing wrong with the action and it is perfect -- well, is it the white keys' whose action is perfect or, is it the black keys' whose action is perfect? Answer THAT one, Casio!

@FungusMossGnosis

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I was going to make this exact comment!

@GuitarClassVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Casio's weather-control division is prepping for a counter-strike

I would like to see the inside of the Casio. Would be interesting if there is good reason why casio builds it in this way or if its just a miss calculation.

@FulvioGa

4 жыл бұрын

Here you are: music.casio.com/en/products/digital_pianos/privia/#tech

@bojackhorseman5367

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrparts I guess the point here is the lighter and thinner design has resulted in a much more significant compromise in the feel/playability than most other digital pianos, and a lot of people find that level of compromise unacceptable.

@MartinMeise

4 жыл бұрын

@@FulvioGa Thanks for the link. As far as I can see in the pictures, the levers for black and white keys are the same on the side of the weight. On the side where the weight levers are moved by the keys, they ones for the black and white keys are of different lengths to accommodate the longer white key and shorter black key. If this is true, the lever on the black keys would only have to be shortened by a few millimeters on the side where the lever touches the key. Then both keys could have the same weight. In addition to the weight, you also have to take into account the moment of inertia. However, this can only be determined dynamically or mathematically. And by the way the moment of inertia of all the different levers in a grand piano action is the reason why it is physically impossible to recreate a grand piano action with only the key and one additional lever. You can get close like the Kawai Grand Feel. But you will have a gap.

Your response is FIRE! Even the Thunder Gods are agreeing with you, haha! Seriously, bravo on the response! And thank you for logically breaking it down.

This has the feel of a corporate response going into damage limitation mode. It shouldn't be necessary for you to take apart a keyboard you bought with your own money. It would have been nice to see Casio invite you up to their premises (once out of lockdown) to talk over the issue. Sit you at a bench with their engineers. Make a coffee. Have a chat. Work with you rather than try to counter. I think I would see that kind of response from Yamaha or, in other instrument families, Backun. It would be interesting to hear if they do this.

@HeCoversMe

4 жыл бұрын

Graham don’t hold your breath :) James is probably a little blip to them on their radar. I’m sure a bazillion people will run and buy Casio just for its name and never look at any review. Sad but true.

@sonicsound84

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure about that @@HeCoversMe. He's a big enough blip to cause a public response. Which is cool to see.

Casio have turned off the comments section on their youtube page 'Casio Music Gear' its hilarious.

@berniem.6965

4 жыл бұрын

The comment section was turning against them after this video. Typical corporate damage control behavior. I wouldn't be surprised if they deleted the video and re-uploaded it to reset the like / dislike counter next.

I appreciate your honesty, it's a big part of why I watch your channel. Refreshing.

James, thank you very much for your honest and unbiased reviews. We support you and need you to keep like this!

Some of your best work! Stay strong and let’s have a look at those internals.

I love how professional you are in your responses. Very mature. Good job!

I'm no specialist but i believe the action is so compact (short) they have to make the end of the black key lighter. Imaginary numbers to explain my point: 40g on the end = 50-60g in the middle of the key 50g on the end = 60-70g in the middle of the key, They chose to have a lighter black key to compensate for the action that is simply too short, minimizing the drawbacks of it. Thank you for your work!

@MartinMeise

4 жыл бұрын

The relationship should be linear. It is a physical lever.

@FulvioGa

4 жыл бұрын

That action is quite complex: www.worldpianonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Casio-Privia-PX-S1000-action_Post.jpg

@Zohnorg

4 жыл бұрын

@@FulvioGa Looks pretty simple to me. As is the solution... Tear away the white keys hammers and lighten them up with a bench grinder... Would make a great HOW TO - video... and the end condition couldn't be much worse than the original.

Your videos are always accurate and knowledgeable and I look to your videos for thoughts about keyboards for my piano students. Keep it up!

You are absolutely fantastic James. I'm really impressed that you read every comment. And you respond also to a lot of them. And that is an extraordinary thing by popular KZreadrs like you are! Continue in what you are doing, you are really helping people when choosing their piano and me also! I am almost decided to go for Yamaha P-515 and I am really looking forward to your review of this wonderful instrument. Thank you very much ❤️👍

It's only a proof that you're doing a good job here ;)

Great update as always and what was an interesting topic before has become even more interesting now that Casio is responding. I currently own a lower end Casio model and found this channel because I was looking to upgrade to either a PX-S1000 or PX-S3000. The key action was my primary concern followed by the piano sample quality and finally the built-in speaker quality. Your honest review and analysis of the key action was a big help in my decision making process. I'm looking at Kawai and Yamaha models now. For sure pull that baby apart! Would love to see how their action works and how hard of a fix this would actually be for the next release. Hopefully they consider your feedback as it sounds like they aren't far off from having a good keyboard in this price range with some simple tweaks.

I have been following your reviews very closely as I am thinking of upgrading my digital piano. I was thinking of getting the Privia PX-S1000 - I was almost sold on it until I saw your review. So I actually emailed Casio to ask whether they plan to fix this problem. This is the response I got (unable to paste screenshot of the email from Casio in KZread comments): "Dear Adwait, Thank you for Choosing Casio. We are glad to hear about your interest in the PXS1000 keyboard. Now in terms of the black keys being lighter than the white keys that is now the piano is designed. If you are interested in buying this keyboard and it is available on the website you can go ahead and purchase it" So they made a statement saying that's how the Piano is designed. It was surprising to see in the Casio live stream that they think its not even an issue now :(

@ThePianoforever

4 жыл бұрын

Could you forward that email to the following address? aloveofmusic.com/Contact.html

@thereyougoagain1280

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, well, I suppose you could honestly claim that nothing was overlooked if you actually intended the crappy features to be there. Mission accomplished, I guess?

@AdwaitPurandare

4 жыл бұрын

ThePianoforever Sent!

@emlynjessen2957

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, talk about self-justification! No keyboardist wants to play a keyboard that has different weight for the black keys. You would never be able to control dynamics.

@jenshuxley

4 жыл бұрын

@@emlynjessen2957 ? it have different weight but so much people like the action, she is good enough for playing and from portable view is casio cpd100 or px1000/3000 for me a good choice. yes only @ home i buy a Yamaha or Roland or Kawai, i have a Kawai MP7 and it is Big and Heavy and the Keyboard is for Home learning to loud... Yamaha is also not quite and here come Casio into the Game...

Casio is a big company, so they would do anything before admitting that they made a mistake. The probable reason why they might have overlooked this issue could be something you mentioned in one of your videos (I think it was regarding the Roland Fp30), Casio doesn't make acoustic pianos, only keyboards. Yamaha, for example, makes both acoustic and digital pianos, so they have experience and knowledge about acoustic pianos and they can use that knowledge to make better digital pianos. Anyway, we appreciate your honesty, James. Keep it up

@federicoborchez2635

4 жыл бұрын

I disagree about the reason. Casio's been making digital pianos for quite a while now, and they made better actions before, actually i don't think any of their previous actions had this issue (even really old ones). Most likely they got over excited about making the slimmest piano (maybe too much marketing pressure idk...) and had to compromise A LOT. Of course they don't want it to be called "flawed" for that... Most other brands like roland, korg, nord, etc. don't make acustic pianos either and i don't think anyone found this issue in those other "non acustic piano maker" brands. Anyways, yeah, that seems like a big issue they should fix instead of justify, and i wouldn't "upgrade" from my px-350 to the s series, nor buy one if i was in the market...

@hussamasmar

4 жыл бұрын

@@federicoborchez2635 Nord buys action from Kawai and Fatar they don't make it as this needs lots of know how.

@ivanmengualalvarez7423

4 жыл бұрын

@@federicoborchez2635 I have owned a couple of Casio keyboards and they didn't have a great action anyway. But the reason I gave was just an opinion, it could be anything else. And sure Roland, Korg and Nord don't have this issue in any of their keyboards (as far as I know) but they have some other issues. Of course they are great companies, but I don't think the result of their products will be the same as the result that companies like Yamaha or Kawai can obtain.

Rich - The action is not flawed at all. Mike(? Forgot the name. Man in corner) - Every portable digital piano has a sacrifice. Rich is saying there's not a problem. Mike is saying the problem is acceptable. Which is it?

@metubetomuch

4 жыл бұрын

That is Mike Martin, big wig of Casio Marketing.....Rich's boss.

I suspect the problem they have - as you note - is that the fulcrum is just behind the end of the key. Right near the fulcrum the force required to push it down is huge. As you get further away, the required force decreases, until you get to the end of the key where you measured. Here’s the problem: if they increase the weight at the end of the key, the weight of the entire key will now *start* and that weight and continue to increase as you move backwards towards the fulcrum and you would then find playing in the middle of the black key to be too heavy. So I’m guessing they made one of those compromises they were talking about; they made the weight in the middle of the key feel about right, but it’s too heavy by the fulcrum and too light at the front. Basically there’s no easy fix because: levers.

@youregrammersucks

4 жыл бұрын

Side note: maybe try weighing middle-key weight on this and comparing it to middle-key weight on other instruments, digital and acoustic. I’d be fascinated to see if there’s a closer alignment.

I appreciate good, honest debate on issues or supposed issues. I value your opinions on this channel as it played a significant part in my decision to purchase a Kawai MP11se.

I've been waiting for an in depth P-515 review from you and I think I just spotted it! If you are making one I'm really looking forward to it.

Good to see this unbiased video, and it couldn’t hurt if you open the thing, it probably will explain a thing or two. Keep up the good work!

With the short keys overall, they had to compromise. By making the black keys lighter, the AVERAGE weight of the black keys may actually be the same as the white keys. (Too light at the end and too heavy at the back). But to the player, it isn’t a usable feel. Bottom line is that you can’t make a proper feeling keyboard with keys that are that short. Casio learned this the hard way.

I really enjoy your reviews and also am envious when I see how well you play. As for the Casio saga, the manner in which you dealt with the issue does you proud. Keep it up.

It's really fantastic to see someone like yourself picking apart these keyboards because lesser pianists wouldn't necessarily notice these things. I also think the information you give out is a great benefit to all. I can't wait to see the keyboard in bits!. Excellent Video, Keep up the good work.

Hello James, I'm an old musician from way back who enjoys your videos. I'm also a math teacher with a specialisation in physics, so I thought I would offer the following reflection on this video: I'm fairly sure you will find that the keyboard under review is just a result of the physics of levers. Somewhere inside, presumably from a spring or weighted mechanism of some kind, a force pushes the keys upward. The pressing-force required to begin to move the key downward is inversely proportional to the distance from the fulcrum. Suppose that you have an imaginary ultra-compact keyboard, where the fulcrum of the black keys is exactly at the back of the part you can see. Halfway along the key, the halfway-force would be twice the tip-force because 2 is the inverse (reciprocal) of 1/2. This is an increase of 100% !!. Similarly, at 1/10 of the keylength from the fulcrum you would need a pressing-force that is 10 times the tip-force. This is an increase of 900% !! In other words, the increase in pressing-force, as you move along the key from the tip, is large. Things get better the further you are away from the fulcrum: If the "back" of the black key is one keylength away from the fulcrum then the halfway-force is about 33% more than the tip-force (a grand piano). At two keylengths it is down to only 20% more (a big grand piano?). If the keys are really just short levers, where do you weight them to feel like a normal piano? If you choose the tip, the key may be unplayable half way along. If you choose the halfway point, the tip of the key has to feel light by comparison. It seems to me that a very compact keyboard simply has to be "light" at the tips of short keys, just in order to be playable.

@canadiansoul9401

4 жыл бұрын

so many words to say "buy another piano" :D

The reason the black keys are lighter is BECAUSE they are heavy near the back. If they increase the weight, then the action nearer the fulcrum might become unplayable.

I’d appreciate it greatly if you took it apart. I was so close to buying the 3000, but the keys feel too light, but what bothers me the most is the mechanical noise when you release the keys. No other piano I tried, the Yamaha P125, The Casio PX 770, the Roland FP 10/30 that are within my budget, have this horrible “release key noise”. What are your thoughts about this?

Great and thoughtful analysis of this keyboard! A teardown to see the action would be super cool.

Casio is dealing with this issue in the worst possible way. Instead, to address the problem and try to fix it at the source (I.E. update the keyboard action and release a version 2.0 for both PxX-S1000 and 3000),Casio is instead focusing on false advertising, false statements of a clearly flawed product and on top of that is trying to discredit someone just because it has the courage and the honesty to inform everyone about it. This is not acceptable and is going to damage the image of Casio in the digital piano world. And it is a real shame because I think Casio digital pianos are very good products with amazing potential for the future. But what they are doing with the PX-S 3000 and 1000 is bringing Casio 100 steps back. Keep it up with your amazing work James. You are doing right.

@chipbug

4 жыл бұрын

No one wants to admit their mistake, especially it is a million dollar mistake.

Nobody should buy any keyboard regardless of good or bad reviews before going to a store and trying it for themselves. We appreciate your reviews!

@alanmckean

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, sometimes it is impossible to try an action before purchasing one. I live in Mexico, far away from any dealer that might carry a digital piano that I am interested in. I am forced to purchase online and even then, many dealer or manufacturer restrictions prohibit shipping to Mexico. I am forced to trust KZread reviews of various actions and make my decisions based on the manufacturers reputation and KZread reviews. For that reason, I am leaning toward Kawais.

@FulvioGa

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that is not an option if you are a complete beginner.

Just discovered this channel last week, and it's really now one of my favorites. And yes, please take that digital piano apart it and let's see what is going on inside! Thanks for all your work on these videos.

I am considering buying a Casio PX560 which has gotten excellent reviews but worried about this issue now and stores do not often have it available to test out. Do you know if their flagship keyboard has the same issue? Thank you.

Dear James, I am turning 68 years old this year and have been playing since I was 14. Back in my day the Hammond organ with Leslies was the instrument of choice. Many gigs required a team for movers. On a few occasions, a well mic'd piano would suffice. I moved onto a fender Rhodes which I had Harold Rhodes and Steve Woodyard custom regulate for me. It was a time of working 6 nights a week. Outside of my 1925 Krakuer grand and so many practice pianos at Berklee in Boston, at least it somewhat felt like a piano. But, it was the sound of the 70's, so who cared. The Rhodes was the suitcase model and I had young muscles at the time, so I didn't mind throwing it into my big Chevy. Then came the 80's and 90's and tons of wedding gigs on every weekend. Well, I must have purchased every and anything that was portable. In came the Yamaha DX-7. Gosh, I hated that keyboard's action, especially being a pianist and also from my Hammond days, I broke a few keys "gliding" (less waterfall action) and fisting on that DX-7. Wedding gigs were a challenge because many times I had to go from room to room where the cocktail hour and ceremony were in different rooms. I think I use to bring a small Casio and additional amp.for some of those gigs. Alas, many of us older musicians had to put up with bad action just to "stay" within the "hip" sound at the time. I have had many other rigs since for performing and when I was in the film business, Lord knows I had walls of MIDI modules, sequencers, Pro-Tools, Synclaviers, etc. Gosh...I wish there were guys like you around back then. I think you are doing a wonderful service for younger guys and us old farts. For instance, I had to give up my Krakauer (I inherited that piano from my uncle who was a concert pianist) when I moved into smaller home. I settled on a Yamaha CVP 609 for my small home. I like what it does and the action is good, but like any keyboard that is NOT mechanically resembling a grand piano, the "classical" pianist in me has to compromise. I still do some composing for music libraries and film, of course the Yamaha comes in handy for that and I use it to trigger my Pro-Tools and Cubase stuff. Once again, I appreciate your blogs and, FYI, I always though Casio should stick to making toy pianos. Sincerely, Jerry Larosa www.jerrylarosa.com

Thanks James, I was about to pull the trigger on a PX-S1000 from Thomann. After watching this and then going off to watch their video I have changed my mind. Even if they had fixed the issue. I also notice they criticise you for moderating the comments on your channel, yet they have disabled comments on their video. Speaks volumes about the companies attitude. I'm off to buy a Yamaha P125B

I commend you for the reviews and the follow up video from Casio's Q&A. It's Awesome! Keep going man.

I really appreciate this followup video - Keep up the good and honest work!

Come on, Use a screw driver, Take it a part!!! Do it now!! Shame on Casio for there answer.

@Zohnorg

4 жыл бұрын

And donate the carcass to Hydraulic Press Chanel!

@shaahkars

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zohnorg hahahaha *mike drop*

This review prevented me to make a huge mistake, thank you. Ps, please take it apart, I'm just curious now.

Great job James, as always. Really appreciate your honestly and details of each review. Looking forward to see the Roland DS 88 review on the channel! and yeah please, open the casio!

Is this true for CDP S350 I own one and I am a beginner and can’t tell the difference.

Here's something interesting for you to try: hold the Casio keyboard upside-down. The resistive force of the keys to being pressed down comes from one of two sources (or possibly both but that's rare on inexpensive instruments): weights or springs. If you turn the keyboard upside-down and the keys are all pressed "down" (meaning toward the base of the keyboard), the force comes from weights. If that does not happen, the force comes from springs. If it's from springs, the fact they're making such a fuss is particularly ridiculous, because changing to different springs is trivial and could be done with almost no redesign work on the instrument. If the force comes from weights, fixing the problem may be harder.

@alphabeets

4 жыл бұрын

moi01887 the problem is the length from the key tip to the fulcrum. Not springs or weights.

I subscribed out of respect for your in-depth, honest reviews. I congratulate you for not letting companies push you around or influence your honest assessment of their products. Shame on Casio for not providing a professional, quality response to your evaluation. I guess their low quality response is an accurate reflection of their products.

Man I totally LOVED this review. I saw your video of trying out a red Casio privia pxs1000 a while back and from that day I was saving up for one and now by watching this video I've made the decision not to. I absolutely appreciate your honesty and I know what's it to you where I or anyone spends their money but you sir have done such a great service by helping me or I don't know how many others make a better decision. Of course if key action is not someone's no 1 priority then by all means this keyboard is a great buy but a digital piano not having a good action means you're buying a car that looks beautiful and has all the features one would need but the drive of the car isn't smooth. That ain't right. MUCH MUCH LOVE for your beautiful work sir. Keep it up

Is there any Casios's digital piano worth buying? I was thinking about the Privia PX 870, but reading some of the comments i'm affraid of it's key action (i've never played piano, digital or acoustic). I would like to buy something that comes close to an acoustic piano! (On the privias price range)

It seems to be like this: if the weight is identical at the end of the key, the black keys might be to heavy closer to the pivot point. The question is: where does the average piano player press a black key? At this point the keys should have the same weight. Shure, it would be way better, if the keys would have nearly the same weight wherever you press them, but if that's not possible, with the slick design...: What's the best solution?

Well-said, James !!! I have a lot of respect for your honesty and your strength of character ! The folks at Casio could learn a lot from you !

@emmakeyser1459

4 жыл бұрын

They don't want to learn.Their response proved that.

Thanks for your thorough and honest assessments of the many instruments (acoustic and digital) you have played. Companies have a hard time admitting that they have erred or may have erred in the execution of a product. Your comment about this company needing a very experienced pianist to test their prototypes before a design goes into production is very much on point.

Hi James. Continue with your fantastic reviews! In this way you help us in ours buying decisions.

Open the Casio! Let´s see!

I'm a viewer from Taiwan. Thanks for your honesty and sense of justice. This world really needs more people just like you. I bought a 3000 in this January before knowing this serious issue. However, thanks to its beautiful and compact design, I still love it and it looks so good in my narrow bedroom.

What a great breakdown on this issue. You have a tremendous channel. I own a Casio C135 and a Yamaha P115. As a beginner they are more than enough for me. But eventually I will be upgrading and this channel is exactly what I needed. Thankyou.

Excuse me do you now perhaps if the casio px560 has the same problem with the black keys?

Software engineers: "It's not a bug it's a feature." Piano engineers: "It's not a flaw it's a design choice."

Great video, as a Casio owner, I felt disappointed with their response towards what is a genuine concern. I was planning to upgrade to a higher specification product later in the year which would have been another Casio, but this whole saga has put me off and I will be looking at alternatives. Casio missed a trick here, they could have invited you to help offset the issues they face, but instead elected to make themselves look 'high and mighty', not in my opinion a good attribute, and one that does not demonstrate the degree of strategic awareness and customer care one would expect.

Speaking of gram weights...would you recommend an average acoustic grand piano owner to get a set of gram weights to keep track of their key weight (I'm assuming it changes over time and can be regulated)? Is there a particular set you would recommend?

Thanks, James! Not only for this video, but for pretty much all you put out. Great job.

It seems Casio wasn't very happy with my assessment of the PX-S3000 I bought a couple months ago to review, and in a recent livestream of theirs they mentioned me and defended their product. Let's take a listen to what they have to say. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWeEz81se9rRZrw.html Also, here's the other two videos regarding this instrument: Hype or Truth: The Casio PX-S3000 kzread.info/dash/bejne/omusqsmRdqiwhag.html Casio's Flawed Piano Action: Update PX-S3000 PX-S1000 kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXZt1tOkgK7Klbg.html

@pranavjayaprakasanut

4 жыл бұрын

Now let's look at the bright side , they actually gave publicity to ur channel . I am sure ppl checking out ur videos will surely sub 👊

@ReinForce007879

4 жыл бұрын

If they do watch your video. Thats a awesome thing. You are not only help the viewers pick the most suitable products for them and encourage manufacturer fixing the flaws on their products in the future. Even they don't admit 😂

@ajjones5251

4 жыл бұрын

What the

@chipbug

4 жыл бұрын

@@pranavjayaprakasanut Streisand effect. I certainly did not know about the 'bad' review before. Now I know.

@FGBFGB-vt7tc

4 жыл бұрын

It is sad a big brand like Casio deprecating your expertise, but it is only understandable if you take into account that you showed a fatal flaw in one of its products: one that renders this product as a big, expensive toy. A lot of its customers will be forced to look for other products, or if they have already bought the product they will feel disappointed or even worse, cheated. If you think that people buy brands because they represent a quality control and good design, then it follows that they feel threatened in that intangible that is their credibility. Hope you are well and hope Casio redesigns its digital pianos in the future. I understand what they are trying to protect, but also hope they learn from its mistakes.

Take it apart!!

@FulvioGa

4 жыл бұрын

That is not necessary as you can see on their web site how it is inside: music.casio.com/en/products/digital_pianos/privia/#tech

Do you know if this happens with the AP models? I was looking forward to test the AP-270 but couldn't. The AP models have Tri-sensor Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard Ⅱ while the PX-S3000 has Smart Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard

In regards to the graham weights on the piano, I didn’t watch your last video, but I’m curious to know how exactly the graham weight of each key should be. Should the black keys and white keys weigh exactly the same or should they have a slight difference? If so, how off the mark were they in terms of getting the right balance?

I totally love my s3000. ... and I'm not payed by casio and I'm not a bot ;) ...your point is valid and I enjoy your videos, but for me the pxs3k was the only piano in my music store, that I fell in love with. I love the keys, the sound and I have absolute no problem with the action (I`m playing on "light1"). Just wanted to say that ;) Cheers, mate!

@ontheroad579

4 жыл бұрын

People puts too much emphasis on other people's reviews instead of trying for themselves.

The black keys are obviously lighter than the white keys, i got the casio s3000 played for the first time and immediately realized that, as a new piano player i did a research to see if acoustic pianos feel that way. I remember seeing the grams weight test video before playing the s3000, and after i played it, i watched the video again and that made a lot more sense. Every time i would play a chord that has the white and black keys, i would end up always playing the black key alone first because it was lighter.

Congrats for your videos. You are one of the most honest reviewers I know, and I really appreciate that. Just give you a BIG THANK YOU, and hope It stays that way...

I would definitely like to see you taking it apart. That would be a really fun and interesting video.

this video should be retitled "actual footage of the Casio murder"

I love the pxs-3000 except for the action, so definitely hope Casio improve the action in the next version.

@dougbrowning82

4 жыл бұрын

They've already modified their action three times since 2003. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privia

Your video's are much appreciated. Once bought a MP11se because of your reviews. And indeed the Kawai plays like a dream to me. Thank you for your work and effort!

Keep keeping it real! The unbiased nature of your reviews is appreciated.

Interesting comparison - James, a talented pianist who has a long track record of being sincere and knowledgeable, and two salesmen who sound like they were hawking vacuum cleaners and used cars last week. I'm not a pianist, but my brother is, and I won't print what he said about Casio keyboards. (He has a rather nice 12' Steinway in his music room.) He thought about getting a Casio for his kids to learn on, but one playing was all it took to let them learn on the Steinway. No sense in learning on an instrument that just doesn't feel right. In fairness, he didn't really like the actions on any of the electronic pianos, but his opinion of Casio's product was pretty low. Backstory - he's an electrical engineer, and worked on projects for both Steinway and Gulbransen Organ many decades ago (and Fender, too!)

Looking forward to the P515 video.

Great job. Thanks for your reviews. Don’t ever give up your honesty. You do a fantastic job.

This is exactly why i suscribed to your channel. I didnt expect to get such a big outcome so fast. I chose the Yamaha CP88 after watching one of your reviews. Thank you

It’s mind-boggling to me that you’re only 20. As someone who’s 2 years older than you are, I really feel like I have to step up my game haha. Thanks and stay awesome!

Breaking the keyboard down for an internal analysis would be amazing. ESPECIALLY, if you teamed up with a reputable/authoritative piano technician/builder!

Not in the market for a digital keyboard (as I purchased the Yamaha P-125 recently) but I find this story fascinating! Love your independent honest professional reviews and commentary. Keep up the good work sir!

Do you have any info on the px560 portable? Acquaintance selling lightly used one, and I was looking for a new keyboard. I am not an experienced player, just looking to replace a 20 year old smaller Yamaha keyboard, to have some fun with. But it’s still pricey for used. Thx.

@maccomes9685

4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. Learned something!

I was about to buy a PX-S1000, but when i saw ur video i changed my mind... and i just bought a Yamaha P 125 instead last week.Thanks again.

Do you really read every single one of the comments? Wow... i gotta say, you're amazing, keep up the good work, I love your content !

@ThePianoforever

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed, I do! :D I can't answer every single one sadly, I get hundreds a day. I'm a lot more likely to answer them on new videos and very likely to respond on my second channel Milan Recording Studios since it's small. :) Glad you enjoy the content!

Thank you for your reviews. I am looking to buy an instrument and your reviews are highly appreciated

Good on ya mate nice, this is the first time I've seen your channel and I like it

Isn't Casio shooting themselves in the foot here. Up till now I kind of figured they (Casio) probably make great gear, and occasionally, like most, make some mistakes. I think it was interesting to see you show one such mistake. But now Casio says "oh no, that thing that was shown there, that is how our products are made on purpose!".

@rango_unchained

4 жыл бұрын

I posted a response comment sharing your sentiment (and some words) just moments before reading yours. Casio will be walking with a limp for a while because or their reaction.

@chipbug

4 жыл бұрын

I think it was really designed like this on purpose. They mentioned some compromises are sometime required. They should owe it up to tell everyone that is the trade-off for the compact/slim design. This thing is most likely meant for beginner. For someone like me, I probably can't tell the difference. But with advance player like James, it won't pass the test.

@Rodhern

4 жыл бұрын

@@chipbug Excellent point.

I would like to see the inside of the Casio. Is there any good reason why Casio builds it in this way? Or its just a bad design work? The fact is, Casio will never admit it. Because it'd force the company to make a great recall in various countries.

@rango_unchained

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt a recall would be a consideration, but admitting a flaw would greatly inhibit future sales of the 1000 and 3000 models, and potentially new models. Casio shot themselves in the foot by defending these models in the manner they chose. In this case, saying/doing nothing would have been a better choice.

How is the action on the Casio CDP-S350 compared to these ones?

I have been in the market for a start up digital piano for a few months now doing research and I was set on the psx-1000 up until i started watching your reviews not too long ago and I ended up buying the Yamaha p125. The work you do is incredible and I personally really appreciate the knowledge and unbiased reviews. I am very very happy with my purchase. Again thank you sincerely for your help.

Since the fulcrum is so close to the end of the keys, perhaps the making the black keys have a lighter touch is by design. Since many black keys are always played closer to the fulcrum, it might make sense to design them to be lighter and easier to play closer to the fulcrum than the white keys, which are nearly always played farther away from the fulcrum. What doesn't make sense is Casio's defense. If it was by design, why not admit it and explain the reasoning. If it wasn't by design, then it's a flaw.

This is the CASIOGATE ;-) I learn a lot from your videos. Great job! They lost me as a client for using these aggressive unethical tactics trying to discredit you. I wonder if what you tried at NAMM was an improved only-for-show version. Terrible!

Wanted to play advanced classical music.but can't afford more than 1000 dollars.which keyboard should I buy.please reply

when you say that keys are lighter, which part of the key are you using as reference? I’m guessing that Casio measured the required force somehow in the middle of the black key, considering that as a more frequent use?