At Broken by Concept, we seek to service the League of Legends ranked solo queue community, through our weekly educational podcast and our occasional player case studies. These case studies aim to shed light on players who misrepresent their solo queue experience, victimize themselves and normalise unsportsmanlike behaviour within the community. These players are not only ruining the ranked experience for themselves, but for everyone else around them. We hope that by connecting a player's words with their gameplay, we are able to disprove the narratives they push, while helping audiences distinguish between fantasy and reality. Players like this exemplify what happens when you adopt toxic narratives and let them control your ranked journey. We hope this video will help you better understand the solo queue experience, and the benefits of building a healthy relationship with this great game we all love. Join us in dissecting the common narratives that plague our community such as: - Blaming teammates for their mistakes, while not taking accountability for their own - Ignorance towards how their in-game decisions are affecting the outcome of the game. - Putting a disproportionate amount of attention towards matchmaking (losers queue) - Thinking about and discussing the game in absolutes. - The dangers of champion and role hopping. Constantly looking for the next LP gimmick And many more... Finally, two questions for you: 1) Does Dillerus represent the type of player you want to have on your team? 2) Have you ever found yourself exhibiting any of the above behaviours? If so, how has it impacted your journey?

@JonathanSaxon

4 ай бұрын

1) no I'd really rather not have Dillerus on my team. 2) I used to always blame others for my mistakes, and not think about how my in game decisions affect others. I have improved on this. Now I have the issue of getting demoralised when I don't zoom up the ranks as fast as I want.

@millenniumstarfury2482

4 ай бұрын

Did an AI write this?

@tarenflores

4 ай бұрын

I think I’ve had the problem of getting obsessed over my teammates mistakes. It comes from wanting to control the game state and it can drive you crazy to see your teammates doing things that result in you having less control. It takes patience and confidence to believe you don’t have to control every tiny thing because you can carry and climb over the long term. I think this attitude also leads to toxic behaviors, like revenge inting a game or flaming teammates as a pathetic attempt to recover a feeling of control

@shanebitner8991

4 ай бұрын

It's honestly intense how much he ruins the game for others, but thinks others are the reason he can't climb and inting his games. It's riot, the mechanics, his team mates, the opponent champion, just anything that isn't him. And he says he is having fun in league of legends when this is what he's doing in his games and how he's treating others. Probably getting more "fun" out of yelling at team mates than actually playing

@lolMidroid

4 ай бұрын

You guys are legends!

this guy's report micro is challenger level

@dashyz3293

3 ай бұрын

guy went with the wrong early era computer game, couldve gone pro in sc2

“I always dominate top lane because I am more mechanically gifted and will solo kill them twice. You will never beat me unless I am heavily counter-picked.” -*Picks Vayne into Garen* -*loses lane* -“Mid diff”

As a chall Vayne top otp that Vayne game was especially hard to watch and then the audacity to type an essay to his team in that same game. He's like the epitome of what not to be and the fact that he claims chall analysis coaching is horrifying to me. Like a doctor without a degree, delusionally writing health threatening prescriptions.

@BrokenByConcept

4 ай бұрын

As a Vanye top main getting to Challenger yourself, any tips for the BBC community Sorest? Or Garen matchup specifics to help Dillerus. - Nathan

@CoachSorest

4 ай бұрын

​@@BrokenByConcept Sure, Garen is one of the easiest matchups for Vayne. I would personally run fleet but PTA is fine. LS start isn't bad but I would choose between dblade and cull, since he's into so low threat here he can simply go cull, almost as much ad as LS and huge gold payout and can still play aggressive, this can be combined with cutdown as HP discrepency will be large, but he went last stand. Also wouldn't max W here, Q max allows you to push the pace of the game harder vs their squishy comp and the Garen. Getting into the game, right away you would want to establish bush control, zone the Garen lvl 1 from xp, poking him and using bushes to de-aggro creeps constantly. Viego is farming towards top, so I would try to zone, poke and try to crash 3rd/4th wave and ping my viego to potentially dive him (In Saskios clip we can even see him diving Garen on 4th wave without jungler, which also is possible, but imagine how doable it is with jgler). Because the Garen opted for ghost instead of tp he is extra vulnurable to this as he can't tp back and catch some of the wave after the dive. Successfully zoning him from xp lvl 1 and building a huge wave with a dive when he has no tp could mean a 3 lvl advantage early after 3-4 minutes, which is a lead you can completely take over the game with. Potentially this might also open up an opportunity for you and Viego to invade Ivern and zone Garen from re-entering the lane between the t1 and t2 towers. Else we simply base, get our item advantage and look to freeze and zone Garen off the creeps on the bounce back. From here on, I will go into some more specific mistakes with time stamps: 14:01 - Q's instead of auto + Q to maximize dmg 14:03 - Autos instead of E'ing Garen into the wall (proceeds to blame he couldn't E but it was due to him inputting an auto attack and then losing vision afterwards). 14:05 - E'ing Garen instead of holding it, Garen has to flash there else Viego W's his melee range and you get your E off, so we shouldn't E, saving the huge mana cost and proccing PTA while dealing a lot of dmg to him (potentially leading up to a dive with the Viego). 14:24 - Pokes too deep under tower with tower shot being ready (we can see it just fired on a minion, that's why it so quickly aggro'd). 14:55 - Not de-aggroing the casters + cannon properly, taking a bunch of dmg with no potions left, no fleet, no sustain from dblade or cull. 15:35 - Huge recall timing, 1200 gold, wave crash, no pots, weakside, low hp, grubbs spawning. Vayne has the worst waveclear in the game, we have no tp, you need to find good recalls. Sitting on the LS here too we can't really pressure as hard as we could and take over the lane completely. 15:51 - Poor micro, stands still instead of moving back, this would allow him to AA, AA + Q (PTA proc + pta enhanced W proc), we can then potentially chase Garen put him very low if not killing him and with that HP advantage we could look for a new crash + base timing. Not wasting E when not needed is big too, because it costs 90 mana which is three Q's (30 mana fixed every rank). 16:04 - Q should be to the side instead of forward, to maintain spacing, de-aggro the casters faster and most importantly not give garen an opportunity to Q + E you if he plays it properly, we can die there (can't flash when silenced). 16:06 - Spacing mistake, moving into garen failing to maintain the range, which causes us to flash. I went full nerd here, but I want to highlight how much there is to it, if you want to reach the absolute highest level, here is where your attention should to be.

@Ahamkeira

4 ай бұрын

this was awesome to read, thanks!@@CoachSorest

@Pyrrha_Nikos

4 ай бұрын

I don't play Vayne, I don't play top, but seeing Garen get the first 3 cs for free and taking no punishment for it hurts inside

@BrokenByConcept

4 ай бұрын

This is what we call GETTING INTO THE DETAILS. Great stuff!@@CoachSorest

“Being harder on others than on your self” is such a terrible attitude yet it’s quite common that’s a sad state for any community to be in. Thanks Nathan and Coach for teaching a productive outlook

@Return989

4 ай бұрын

It is not only common in the league bubble, but pretty much all around the western world. It is sad.

@mattyoshimoto2382

4 ай бұрын

sad part is hes soft af

@faveology

4 ай бұрын

In solo queue, I focus on myself. When I play in the amateur league I play in, I am very aware of when I am playing well or bad. However, due to being part of a team, I am VERY critical of my teammates. It's harder to win in a pre-made team environment if people aren't pulling their own weight than it is in solo queue. Also, unlike solo queue, I am actively playing with the same people over and over again. In solo queue, I MIGHT get you two games in a row. The only consistent thing is me being in my own lobbies every game. The same can't be said for pre-made team games.

@deejayf69

4 ай бұрын

People like Nathan and Curtis restore my faith in the community =w=

@virrob9055

2 ай бұрын

@@Return989 not just the western world trust me. humans are fundamentally not amazing at taking accountability unless they have the required maturity.

My favorite part was “emerald players have the biggest ego” when he’s emerald and puts “challenger level player” in his video titles. Like okay yeah guess you’re right about the egos…

@Ffoo_ffighter

4 ай бұрын

he is masters actually

@jamsolid

4 ай бұрын

@@Ffoo_ffighter not currently. emerald 2. regardless, saying he's challenger level is false, and disrespectful. he's toxic.

@citizencj3389

4 ай бұрын

​@@jamsolidhes masters. People are so delusional and think league is a solo game when its fundamentally a 5 v 5 game. Its crazy to think teammates running it down or soft inting isnt a huge issue for people trying to climb. Yes it is good to analyze your own gameplay but none of you people cannot deny that other players can deliberately fuck you over if they are in a bad mood.

@Palindrome3945

3 ай бұрын

@@citizencj3389 That applies to everyone. Still, some people are challenger, and some are Emerald.

@citizencj3389

3 ай бұрын

@@Palindrome3945 and the guy in question is at least high diamond. I dont blame him for thinking the way he does but his mentality and attitude can be stifling to his growth as a player. Does it mean hes wrong for how he feels? No. People DO run it down in emerald on league. And people even in diamond do the same stupid shit.

When you see "Case study" in the title, you know it's going to be a banger episode. lol

Hey someone mentioned you guys used my clip in this video and had to come over and check it out Watched the video and this is very well produced and love the overall vibe! New sub from me!

@shinamonti2021

4 ай бұрын

Hello nice educational content!

@GodHandFemto

4 ай бұрын

Bring back the lawnmower

@jameslea3794

4 ай бұрын

That was some nasty Vayne gameplay, if I were Garen I don’t even know how to continue laning from there

@CoachSorest

4 ай бұрын

fellow vayne top enjoyer

@j_fbi7610

3 ай бұрын

SASKIOOOO

The thing about tower reaction time is simple. You attack the champion as soon as the tower shoots at a minion, this gives you the longest amount of time before the tower can target you. If you hit a champion when the tower projectile just lands on the minion it can instantly fire at you. This is something every single person who plays lanes should know. I'm a jungle main and I know this

@TreeFucker_

4 ай бұрын

never noticed the tower timing

@sorenzzz

4 ай бұрын

Same in reverse. You wanna play footsies based on this timing to avoid being harassed under turret or even make the harassment punishable if they get greedy about it.

@bilyscr1

4 ай бұрын

Learned something new thank you!

@wolfsign9168

4 ай бұрын

im bronze and suck so hard and I KNOW THIS!!! def no excuse for a guy framing himself as 'challenger' or whatever

@yGKeKe

4 ай бұрын

While that's true, turrets legitimately used to have a wind-up timer after selecting a new target. Probably been a long time since that was reduced though.

It's actually crazy how after I started watching you guys I started seeing your sentiment about champ mastery reflected in a lot of other high elo streamers. Polypuff recently had a AMA video, one of the questions was someone asking "what are some macro tips for a low elo player like me" and his response was "if you're below diamond don't even worry about macro, just focus on mastering your favorite champion, macro comes naturally through experience, trying things and seeing what works and what doesn't". I thought "woah that's what da boys at BBC would have said".

@someguy-zg2qf

4 ай бұрын

i agree you gotta know your champ but i see people letting towers die all the time for literally nothing, they need macro.

@thestoebz

4 ай бұрын

@@someguy-zg2qfnot nearly as important as playing your role/champ well

@TheTCM

4 ай бұрын

​@@someguy-zg2qfdo they need macro or is this happening cause they arent intune with their champion?

@someguy-zg2qf

4 ай бұрын

@@TheTCM lmao knowing your champ has nothing to do with letting your towers die for free or to minions. Literally just look at the map, its the most basic thing to do when you notice you cant be of use yet

@in_vas_por8810

3 ай бұрын

Basic knowledge of how to play your champ is a no-brainer. Being able to do every combo and all these nuanced situational trick/exploits (perfectly) should not come before having a good grasp of macro. Thats why most people would say, pick a simple champ, so you can learn how to play the game before learning how to animation cancel on riven and do the Shy. There was even a rank 1 Riven who said this same stuff. Either way, everyone learns differently.

It's so painful to watch this gameplay with what he's saying. The disconnect is surreal and I love that you guys take the time to break this down

This was a wild case study. This man has an ego bigger than Tyler1 despite being in emerald. It makes sense that he thinks climbing to masters in 100% luck based. People who constantly buy fresh account to try and climb with are basically rolling the dice trying to winstreak to new peaks and exploit the MMR system rather than actually trying to improve at the game.

Two things that stuck out to me: 1) It seems some of his toxicity is because his life is in a rough place (that quick comment about being jobless) 2) “Your rank defines your worth” He has to delude himself because it would be too painful to accept where he is at.

@rex1800

3 ай бұрын

it’s really sad and very common with league.

48:10 literally had this EXACT moment happen in a ranked game yesterday. It’s 40 minutes in my whole teams fighting for baron (we have elder buff and can win 5v5) and my shaco is nowhere to be seen, he’s farming enemy red side jungle. I was tilted over it I won’t lie but I had ZERO idea what he was thinking, I just disliked him because he was a toxic player but NOT a bad player or anybody trying to lose the game. Long story short I completely forgot to take into account the enemy was open nexus and while we 4v5ed and lost the baron he backdoored and ended the game. He was thinking about something completely different but he was right, I was wrong.

Another case study from my 2 favorite boots on ground investigators; Coach "Case by case" Curtis and Nathan "Love to see it" Mott. Let's get into the details!

@icallmyselfARI

4 ай бұрын

Lmaooooo

A few episodes ago, Curtis talked about the pitfalls that players who learn the game through support can often fall victim to, and while I did agree with pretty much everything he said about it, I think what he says around 1:20:25 can be one of the biggest benefits of learning the game through support. I felt what it was like to indirectly carry the game by doing my job as a support before I ever learned how to carry the game by being the actual carry champion. I think that has really helped me establish a way of thinking that makes me feel satisfied and happy when I do my job well in a game, regardless of the outcome of the match, and that helps me mitigate tilt sooo much. Even though I main mid and typically play assassins now, I am grateful for what my time maining support taught me.

curtis's passion discussing how hurtful bad mentalities are is so awesome lol, great episode

I'm sure this hits close to all us league players and I for one can take away a lot of personal learning lessons from this case study.

lmao that intro. "Love it" -Nathaniel Motte

I do wanna note that Riots current reporting system is completely broken. I've gotten chat warnings for saying curse words to my friend in PARTY chat, because someone happened to report me that game.

@wrwinter

4 ай бұрын

if you type the Words, you put yourself at the mercy of every other player in the game. it's ridiculous but that's how it works.

@tristan6773

4 ай бұрын

I got a 5 match ranked ban cause I said “LMAO THAT WAS RETARDED” when my lee sin kicked the dragon and went flying for 10 seconds. edit: 5 match ban. not 5 day

@glenndiddy

4 ай бұрын

@@wrwinter One day you can swear like a sailor and be fine, the next you say something benign like Damn, that's really stupid and get a warning for that game. The system cannot be explained, not even by Riot

@takubear88

4 ай бұрын

Warnings don't do anything. So yeah, using any words may trigger it, but you won't be punished anyway.

@scottwallace5239

4 ай бұрын

​@@tristan6773isnt that technically flaming and also using the R word is seen as offensive to a lot of people

This case study makes me so grateful for the ability to turn off chat entirely. If I saw even 3 messages from this player I'd be tilted. Call it "mentally weak" I'm here to play a video game, which is meant to be fun, not micromanaging whining teammates

Btw, he made a response to your video lol. It’s sort of hilarious. Dude is either performing as a character or is suffering from the case of Dunning-Krueger effect I’ve ever seen.

@leagueofminecraft6964

4 ай бұрын

He’s real, I’ve had him in my games

@thestoebz

4 ай бұрын

@@leagueofminecraft6964wild lol. Did he carry the shit out of you!?

@DustyyBoi

4 ай бұрын

​@@thestoebzcarried to defeat

@thestoebz

4 ай бұрын

@@DustyyBoi hahaha

He made a response video in which it becomes clear he hasn't taken anything to heart. It's really entertaining to watch this level of delusion though, but also kind of sad.

Hi Curtis and Nathan, I suggest to check out Grubby and his journey of recently learning League as a very positive example of someone who is curious and detail-oriented. He is a WC3 pro, so he is VERY experienced and talented with fast-paced PC gaming, which is important to keep in mind. But, his approach to learning is so genuine, curious, and clearly refined based on his past gaming experience that it could at least be very interesting to look into.

@JamesBaleLA

4 ай бұрын

I think this would be a great idea - its been a blast to watch grubby learn league and would make for a great video @BrokenByConcept

At the viego gank at 31:00 Vayne loses a quarter of his HP from minion aggro LMFAOOOOO.

Just wanted to say I'm thankful to of discovered you guys, I've been playing since season 2, always been around platinum/breaking diamond. I lost my passion for this game for quite some time, due to developing a toxic mindset. Through listening to your guys podcast on spotify and watching on KZread I have been able to have an outlook of actually thinking what could I of done better each game, even in hopeless situations I continue thinking what to do in game and actively think about the game more as a whole. Long post, but I just wanted to express my gratitude and keep up the great work!

The challanger vayne we used for comparison was SASKIOLOL, a great toplane/vayne coach who makes an emphasis in understanding waves and matchups, hes spoken alot about it :D

In that first one having to flash in reaction to the Garen after overstepping is the end of review moment. End of review and hopefully rethinking playing so many champions with no champ mastery.

just wanna say watching the high elo vayne player bully the garen under tower and abuse the tower aggro is really inspiring to watch. BBC talks about it a lot, but when you watch someone high elo do something, it really is inspirational in a "holy shit you can really do that and do it that well and that consistently" kinda way

The funny thing in the League community is that "challenger level" usually means that the person is not challenger.

I have noticed at least 1 thing that is the same between all these case studies. "It is luck to climb past X rank."... Neace has said it multiple times. This guy has said it. It is funny to think that the people that make challenger every season are just lucky and they never have any unlucky seasons.

@ReticentRon

4 ай бұрын

Yea, the challenger every season on multiple accounts sometime even multiple accounts in the top 10, obviously pure luck /s lol

Is his username a play on words with 'Delirious'? If so thats just perfect 😂

@Sorest2

4 ай бұрын

That's so funny: "in an acutely disturbed state of mind characterized by restlessness, illusions, and incoherence". Couldn't have summarized that better.

I am baffled at 1:02:40 where he expresses that this player is "elo inflated" when they have very good win ratios across 4 out of 5 of their champions and have over 50% win rate in ranked overall. I don't understand, what does he expect a support to look like if winning more than half of their games isn't good enough?

That intro really put a smile on my face :D

That intro was so good, I need to re-watch it again! Edit. 28:31-29:12 reports mid for poor wave state while he himself also has a bad wave state 31:29 Typing in caps after death 45:16 Why the report system doesn't work

I love that you say "emerald players are great players", its a refreshing push back to the commonplace narrative. Recently veigarv2 said "99% players in challenger are bad" lol

His first mistake Vayne vs Garen is that she has a Long Sword instead of Doran's Blade.

You guys are great! I have started climbing and have suggested my friends watch you guys. It is amazing how much mental attitude is connected to you climb. Positive attitude and focus on your own play will get you to climb. It's amazing how many games I win when behind early and FF 15 is never in your mind. Instead the mindset goes to focus up buttercup and what can we do to change things around. It's crazy how little the early game means in low elo. I have learned so much about mid and late game and how to come back by attitude and believing in my ability to adapt to what the game is starting to look like. Thanks guys for changing my attitude towards the game.

Banger intro, lads! The KZread algorithm recommended me this creator after watching the BBC and after seeing tips about how to duo or what not I figured it wasn't good. Funny to see him end up on the channel!

Picking all those champions reminds me of the Bruce Lee quote I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.

This guy Qing before he Es in that rengar clip sums up his champ mastery. The soldier was already being placed at max distance. He just didn't know he was rooted and panicked so hard. The cs numbers are so bad for azir, too. I get the feeling he tries to play every champ the same way.

I'll say that Emerald's game quality does feel lower than some other elos, but this is definitely taking it to the extreme. This kind of behavior isn't healthy.

The news-report intro is so good! keep it up guys!

The main reason i dont play league competiitvely is that its so easy to fall into this team blame mindset, Im a super competitive player and I love grinding ranked but i believe in never blaming team and always tryna do my best/focus on improvement. But league is the one game that just gets in my head. Im sure i could work through it but i chose to focus more on fun in this game than skill and i enjoy it a lot more. whereas in val and ow im the opposite, but im able to preserve my mental and be a positive player in those games. Idk what it is about league that makes me feel more ragey than other games

@Sorest2

4 ай бұрын

I think it's because the matches are longer and they build on minute 1 like a chess game. So what others are doing affects the rest of the game that you're stuck playing out. In Valorant, although there's economy, the round resets constantly, so you're not stuck with someone's mistake to the same extent, you also don't have a bird's eye view of what everyone in your team is doing.

@NkenKenY

Ай бұрын

the game is design to psycological to make you a worse person it has not redo button no pause button and you lost more lp just for losing i think winning and losing should be even

I just started the vid, but hearing someone say "when I lose it's a team problem 99% of the time" instantly lets me know that this person doesn't care about improving their own gameplay. It's technically true that if every game my entire team played p-e-r-f-e-c-t-l-y, then I would be challenger, because they'd carry me lol. Why should I expect my team to play better than the enemy team every game? Shouldn't I expect a 50-50 split and tilt the balance in my favor by being better than my opponent as often as possible? Not understanding this fundamental idea is why people get stuck. No one who understands this and actively tries to improve their own gameplay stays stuck "because of their team".

The opening was fantastic! Great job again coaches, looking forward to next week's video!!

I watched this dudes video before, he reminds me of the streamer “Nic0le”. He always climbs on new accounts, his a wall where he falls or something and then goes another fresh account.

Grateful for y’all for posting this! Learned so much ❤

Great episode, kind of humbling as well. I find myself blaming others more often than I should. Luckily I don't think I'm quite at this level LOL

You don't know how much I love these case studies. Cheers lads

This is actually the exact thing Ive wanted to find, but really couldnt find an in depth discussion on peoples mentality and really getting into the nitty gritty in how people who act like the one in the streams, it makes it extremely uncomfortable for those who just want to have a good game. Stressing out about every single thing in games just ruins the experience. Great video!

I don’t really play league anymore. But I been watching from episode 1 (not every episode between). I love game theory and am a massive football (eu) fan and getting into coaching now. A lot of stuff applies cross sport mentally, awesome to see y’all still going Curtis

This has been super cool to see! Wholesome content that will for sure grow, thanks guys. Seems like you had a lot of fun doing it as well so congrats to the gem!

gotta be honest i always feel like you take yourselves too seriously, but I just love these videos of yours. Very good commentary and above all I believe you are extremely healthy for the community. So much toxicity and ego in league when it could be so much better. Channels like this are definetely needed in league and broader in gaming community. Thanks

During the third section of reviewing his 'educational' video I actually related a lot to this guy. The way he gave good advice tbh but would do the opposite in game is something that I feel like I do all the time in reviews. It's so easy for me in a review to instantly recognize stupid plays I make and I'll tell myself 'ok don't gank with all camps are up' or 'that's a huge wave just let the laner collect it don't gank' but I keep doing these mistakes over and over. I can tell myself to only go for high percentage plays but in game idk I have a lot of work to do.

@faveology

4 ай бұрын

Well, knowing is the majority of the battle. Now, you just need to implement that knowledge in-game. Until you do, there is nothing anyone can do for you. You'll just struggle to climb efficiently

great episode! this is a more common mindset than it should be in league and hopefully it changes for the better over time!

Its also important to know that they kind of hardlocked gains from emerald upwards to a variation of 20/-18 for standard mmr accounts. Extreme outliers can still exist but that is the overall rule in place atm to counter the lp inflation of last split. Phroxzone made a tweet about it.

very slick intro, great video so far

this guy made a response and called u guys fake news......his behavior aside I really hate how he is using his platform. to be privileged to have that many eyes and ears on you and doing such a disservice to the game. i hope he can work on his mindset.

I may be wrong, but from what I've heard capitalising on counterpicks has insane impact on lane specifically in top. I'm Gold, if I get filled top I just pick comfort because I can't properly execute every (top) counterpick.

Love your guys' case studies!

that's so wild, i was just recommended one of his videos, and watched him for the first time this morning

Your videos have been really helpful. Thank you!

Since you briefly mentioned them in your video, how come Domisum replay is bad?

love the case studies great work!

Hey I actually have been getting one of that guy's videos in my feed. I never really clicked it, now I'm glad I didn't. Thanks for the great content as always guys, we need these sacirificial lambs to get the case studies out there. Had a rough 0-4 block today, but hoping to learn from reviews when I'm refreshed.

Really Love the News breakdown transitions its funny asf

Offer him a free coaching, we can get more content out of this and genuinely try to help him.

@BobbyDigMOB

4 ай бұрын

Reward an a*hole with coaching? How does that work?

I'm so ready for this!

Love the new edits you guys included hahaha, Cherry on top to this SHOCKING video

Great episode today, friends! Really liked the content in this one, very relatable to some of my misgivings when I play ranked! Hope you both don't over exert yourself making this great content, remember to rest and relax :)

Absolutely loved this format. I don’t think this type of content is made enough. Showing the gameplay and a sample of how a high ranking player does the same match up is the best way to improve. It’s also evidence based instead of just sharing your opinion. Sub from me great video

I used to think like this guy about the LP gains... BUUUUUT i keep pushing forward. After a LOT of years of falling short, i finally reached Diamond 3.

Love the intro guys! Great editing on this one

Tarzaned has been going crazy in EUW recently. That would be an interesting case study.

loved the edits, great case study

he plays between 10 to 18 games a day every time that he can, no wonders his accounts end with bad mmr, if you are tilt queuing all the time of course you are going to keep ruining your lp gains.

@felpulaley4534

4 ай бұрын

the reason he wins so many games on a row, is beacuse he loses a lot of games too. So he goes on lower elo and then he wins a lo in a row because of this

I often find myself saying "that ability is so bullshit", while it is, and there are bullshit champion mechanics, It's predictable, I need to plan around the bullshit not expect there to be none

great video guys, the edits had me crackin up lol

I remember a few weeks ago seeing this guy do a video on why your ideas on coaching are bad. How the tables have turned

@JamesBaleLA

4 ай бұрын

oh i wanna see it lol

around 1h he chants that he wins all top lane matchups when we saw when he lost vayne vs garen:)

There are a lot of studies on Grandiose Narcissism. I never thought I’d see one in depth with a LoL player. Nevertheless we need more of these. Thanks guys!

omfg that intro has me rollin 🤣

Curtis had way too much fun with this one 🤣

love this podcast, brilliant for a mental reset

As a Bard main, I felt that when the 2/1/5 bard got reported in the first minute. 😭

I needed this video. I had a win streak and it gave me an ego. Stopped climbing. That's for the reality check.

This wasn't in League but there was a Valorant poll I saw asking about what people think the real "elo hell" rank is, and funnily enough the distrubution of votes is very similar to the actual distribution of ranks of players, most votes towards the "middle" rank and then lesser and lesser votes the farther you get away from the center like a bell curve. My interpretation is that people think their current rank is where elo hell is because they can't escape it, but that's really because that is their actual rank and they're no longer improving so they justify that the exact same rank they are is where elo hell is.

@DownForceSimRacing

2 ай бұрын

In the valo case id say its a bit different tho. Fps games have notoriously bad elo systems that can be abused easily with smurfs and such. Mid level elo will have the most smurfs and boosted accs in any fps title. Just putting that out

Creating a KZread channel, getting famous, posting my games, and complaining about how the game is rigged solely so I can have you both give me a free vod review

What a sick intro - I'm here for that!

This reminds me of an iron player who called teammates trolls. I watched the vod and thought, what's the difference between your game play with horrendously low kda(

@FluffyPhoenix991

2 ай бұрын

There isn't a difference, but those people won't climb anyway unless they spam games like the mr in this video.

54:00 his lp gains were lowered because this season below emerald the average lp gain is 25 but they lower it to 20 for all players in ranks emerald and above. Gaining 20 would mean his rank and mmr are aligned.

Do you guys have recommendations for top laners? I play singed mostly.

Top laners are built different the thoughtful human to whining sociopath ratio is 1:50. Great episode from Nathan and Curtis as per usual.

every time i have to deal with a vayne they are 3x as aggressive as this guy and i'm playing in normals at like silver/gold level I feel like he could have e+q'd as azir a few time but just didn't, but i think with the rengar gank he was trying to save the e til after rengar jumped out of a bush, so i wont judge that specific one. but yeah he has no mental

how delusional can someone be to say they have challenger level *anything* when they have never been challenger?

I think this is the first time a sponsership besides meundies from the official podcast was actually something that was useful for me. super legit!

The speed he reported that bard was insane. When I am trying to report someone, the game ends meanwhile I find the right button.

Hey nathan, i joined the saltu school for jungling. but i cant seem to find the discord link on any of the tabs on the website nor is it in my email, where can i find it?

@Solar_D2

4 ай бұрын

Nevermind, i disconnected and reconnected my discord and i was in there automatically!

One of the things he mentioned realizing he wasn’t born talented is super powerful for a growth mindset, but it can also really bring someone down and it doesn’t seem like he balanced the mindset very well

@Sorest2

4 ай бұрын

Really odd of him to say he wasn't born talented but simultaneously accompany that with the largest ego known to man.