6 Answers to Frequent Comments... #1- The screws I'm using in this video are #9 x 3” PowerPro interior screws. #2-I'm using screws for framing interior partitions. I am not advocating the use of screws for structural framing. Nails have more shear strength, and I used nails when framing this house addition. This video is about nothing more than a simple how-to technique for easily and accurately toenailing studs. #3-As mentioned early in this video, this same technique works for toenailing with nails. #4- The interior walls in this video can not be nailed together on the deck, then tipped up into position against a drywalled ceiling and still fit tightly. Thus, they are being built in place. #5-Yes, screws are more expensive than nails. No doubt about it. #6-Yes, screws are more time consuming to use than a nail gun, and professional framers do not use screws. But professional remodelers (which was my profession for nearly 25 years) do use them. They are a satisfying and valid option for framing walls in place. Thanks for watching this video. 👍❤

@robertadelsberger3749

2 жыл бұрын

It’s sad for me to realize that there aren’t any carpenters anymore that know how to use a hammer. There really isn’t anything that is more efficient and cost effective than a combination of hand drives and a good framing gun. To me, screws are for the inexperienced, Expensive and time consuming. For toe nailing, put the toe of your boot against the stud and nail, or in your case, screw the opposite side

@volkan_boston

2 жыл бұрын

thanks- can same screw be used if bottom plate is pressure treated?

@herrickkimball

2 жыл бұрын

@@volkan_boston I think so. There was a concern at one time that pressure treated chemicals may corrode steel fasteners, unless galvanized, but I've been told that is no longer an issue.

@bryanutility9609

Жыл бұрын

@@herrickkimball what kind of screws are you using? What size etc? I’m not good enough to see it.0

@herrickkimball

Жыл бұрын

@@bryanutility9609 #9 x 3" Power Pro. More information is in the pinned comment (the top comment on this page).

Good tip. You can also lay a 2x4 cut 14 1/2" against your previous stud so that it is 16'' on centre and repeat the process using no screws over and over. Or whatever your desired spacing happens to be. Just make sure you write on it so you don't grab the wrong piece of 2x4 lol.

@msk3905

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I do so they stay put

@1RAYGC

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@carlfritz9496

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, my head just exploded. Such an easy solution but I've never thought of it.

@tylerzmistowski5867

2 жыл бұрын

Easily repeated and STRONG as hell

@johnwaugh2613

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that tip .being a home owner and getting ready to do work on a Cabin that needs framing on the inside..

I framed houses more than forty years ago and we just jammed our boot against the base of the stud and drove the nails in from the other side. Very natural and very fast. No way they would let us take the time to be so accurate in those days. I would devise a quick-release clamp to go on the plate if I were using screws today but my construction days are long over. Nice video, you explained and illustrated well. I enjoyed it.

@defenda1

Жыл бұрын

I still do it with my boot too, works fine. I wedge it a bit past the line, when I shoot the nail it knocks over to the right spot.

@Papadoc1000

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I do the same thing, though there are sometimes tight circumstances where neither is possible like when you are about 19" away from an end stud and you need a spare installed at 16". No room for my fat foot or all the screws and nails put in and taken out. This is where you nail a 3" piece of scrap to the bottom right next to the line and that is your brace. Sometimes it doesn't survive 2 nails plus the pressure, but that's okay because it's just a temporary brace. I mean, all this is studwork, not cabinetry. I've never even thought about being off the width of a line as a problem.

@d46512

4 ай бұрын

Now I know why it's called toe nailing

@spo307

22 күн бұрын

exactly

As soon as he freehanded that 1-1/4" line perfectly, I knew I could trust this man with my life.

@hidinfrombiden1734

11 ай бұрын

Looked more like 1-1/2" to me, but my eyes ain't what they used to be😅.

I think tips like this are for guys like me who enjoy learning and trying different projects. Now I know I can tackle a small framing job with the tools I own. Thank you

I discovered this very technique on my own (out of necessity) but more recently after reading old carpentry books I discovered that you can do the same thing with a flat head nail - just lie 2 flat head nails with the head on the line (tips away from the new stud) and give each a tap with the hammer so the head penetrates the timber - then you can push the new stud up against the nail heads and toe nail from the other side. It's easy to lift the nails out with you fingers. Works with nailer or hammer.

@herrickkimball

2 жыл бұрын

I like it. Thanks for the comment.

@williammoore4380

2 жыл бұрын

Or cut a 14.5" piece of stud and lay it in place butted against already installed stud. Then just pick it up after installing first two screws/nails.

@AS-zw4lk

2 жыл бұрын

@@williammoore4380 you can certainly do that but you might want a different spacing between members.

@justinstevenson2061

Жыл бұрын

@@AS-zw4lk ?? 16 on centre isn’t happy for you ?

@patty109109

Жыл бұрын

@@justinstevenson2061 have you ever built a wall? Not every stud can be placed 16, particularly if have to work around obstacles.

Thanks a lot Herrick. This helped me a ton. I never comment on a video but i am genuinely thankful for this tutorial. Thanks a lot again

Awesome video for DIY enthusiasts who don't understand best practices. Thanks for this!

Thank you for sharing this. I'm terrible with nails, so this was a perfect demonstration 🙏💫

Nicely done. I did learn some stuff here. The pre-drill has always been my favorite technique, as an amateur.

Great tip! I never would have thought about doing that. Thank you for the education.

This is perfect! I’m new to DIY and just have a very small area to frame out. This has made me much less anxious about the toenail process. And I already have all the tools and screws I need.

sweet video, learning to build with wood and making my first piece of furniture right now and this was super helpful

I got down on myself yesterday because I was doing it all wrong so I'm glad I found your video. Im new to DIY so thank you

I recently retired from doing this work my entire working life. I love watching you knowledgeable and competent carpenters and wood workers. One view and I subscribed.

Great tips - you are fabulous! Thank you for sharing!

I'm learning DIY and found this really useful, Thanks👍

Thanks for the tips! Very useful when doing this kind of work over ones head! I always appreciate simple tips that work!

Wow I like your tricks. I used those 2-1/2 composite deck screws I had leftover to build an interior non-bearing wall. This was my first time using screws. Boy it was very strong passed inspection.

Instead of screwing 2 screws to hold the studs in place before putting toe screws in, I pre cut a 14 1/2” and a 13 3/4” 2x4 block and use them as reusable spacers. The first space I use 13 3/4” then the rest 14 1/2” block. I put the block in place put the stud against it, toe screw, remove then place in on the other side and repeat. I feel it’s faster this way and I don’t need to level all my studs just the first one.

@wilsonatore

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I "invented" that technique too! The studs kept twisting as I tried to screw them in, now I do it all the time.

@CytoplasmicGoo

Жыл бұрын

@@wilsonatore Darn, I should've patented that technique before a million of you guys invented it as well.

@mdgrech

4 ай бұрын

why use a 13 3/4 to place the first stud?

@CytoplasmicGoo

4 ай бұрын

@@mdgrech because normally drywall edge is on stud center, but is butted on the edge against a wall or corner when you start. It insures that when you start the drywall from the corner or butt against another wall you will be on center in subsequent studs.

Thank you, very informative. I have to add a few studs in a shower area and this will let me get them squared up nicely. Good video, showing all the important steps. I also can't help but wonder why "professional framers" are watching your video and then commenting negatively? It seems to be geared for lowly DIY'ers like me. Well done.

Wow! Great advice. Much appreciated!

Thank you so very much for your valuable information! I am going to be framing in a chicken run with 2x4s this was so helpful! I was wondering how I was going to effectively attach my 2x4s using the toe mail method!

I am a homeowner with a day job who does not do anything construction related for a living. That being said I am working on framing out my basement and Bought this kzread.infoUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt gun. I have done a few walls already, have probably shot a couple hundred nails through this thing and have yet to have a misfire. It works awesome, good depth on every nail if you have your compressor set right. My literal only complaint is that it is a bit heavy and my arm can get a little tired especially whrn I am nailing at odd angles. That being said I am super happy with it and would buy it again. Hoping the old girl allows me to get my whole basement finished out!

@JobsiteJohnny-nn5zy

29 күн бұрын

Did you frame walls with a brad nailer?

@SandyDuff

26 күн бұрын

@@JobsiteJohnny-nn5zy and he thought it was heavy hahahahhahahaha

Oh wow, this is such a great video and great trick that I've just learned. Thank you very much!

Thanks for the tips. Brilliant

Insightful and well presented. Thanks!

Thank you for this! Very useful!

Thank you very much for your info I really appreciate that much You have no idea how many two by fours they’re open on me and I learn a lot just by watching your video thank you very much and God bless you

Thank you because I was struggling with trying to do a toe nail on the stud.

Great tips. This will help me when I build some internal walls in my garage. Thanks.

EXCELLENT!!! Great tip!!

that inch and a quarter free hand was super!

@KECarter

Жыл бұрын

That was impressive, wasn't it?

Legend has it that he is still building this wall

@herrickkimball

2 жыл бұрын

😂 Kind of true. It's an addition on my house that I started 3 years ago. The outside is done. The inside is still getting done. Building with no debt, while working full time. Should be all done next year. Or the year after. 👍

@ryankojabashian9599

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha. So good. Good on him for making it perfect, but I would make 5$/day if I took this approach to all my projects.

@kendodd8734

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryankojabashian9599 I know what u mean but obviously uve got a framing gun diys probably won’t have one so its gonna help them do it right if somewhat slowly but that said it is a great way of getting twists out of the studs when fitting I don’t know what the quality of studding is like in the states but in the uk it’s shocking trying to get straight true timber is almost impossible nowadays with all this quick grown gear that’s on the market nowadays

@stevesmith7775

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, like Trump

@phillips1003

2 жыл бұрын

@@kendodd8734 it's the same way here in the states, nothing like the good stuff in old days

This is golden. Thank you.

I just happen to be about to start building a stud wall, in 20 minutes time when I finish this coffee in fact. You have just made my life easier. Thank you!

@josephpostma1787

7 ай бұрын

What was your wall for?

Thank you! 👍

You gained a new subscriber today, I have become a DIY enthusiast and this video helped a great amount. Thank you!

Glad I finally figured out the secrets of wood stretching!

Awesome video. Wondered about utilizing screws for toe screwing fo years. Now will be utilizing the info in my DIY projects not for stud work, but repairing my green house. Kudos for vid. New subscriber because of this vid. Looking forward to ur next one.

@steveshook7331

2 жыл бұрын

I personally wouldn't use screws because they break while nails will bend with movement

Very helpful, thank you!

Great video. Great tip for toe nailing. Makes to much sense, solves the problem of the stud shifting over a little. As far as nails go, I do not remember the last one I drove in with a hammer.

Well sir I enjoy your precise placement and don't fault you for it. As a carpenter for close to 50years I've come to see great benefits of screwing my studs in remodeling. Anytime a customer makes a change it's easier to make happen. Although I don't get quite a precise as you in screw placement. I find that I can make minor adjustments to the line by over tighten or backing off slightly. Your clearly a good carpenter!

@herrickkimball

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your perspective and comment here Marvin. I was a carpenter and remodeler for 25 years before moving on to other things. Screws for interior stud walls in remodeling situations are a sensible option. I'm sure you can remember when we didn't have these kinds of screws. The framing in this video is an addition on my own home. I made two changes to the layout and the changes were easier to make because the screws reverse out with no problem. Thank you. 👍 P.S. For those professionals who watch this video and think that I am advocating the use of screws for all framing applications, I am not doing that. Structural framing should be done with nails because they have more tensile strength. I framed this addition on my home with nails. This is a video specifically about toenailing (or "toe-screwing"). And, as I mention in the beginning, this technique works with nails as well as it does with screws.

@kassandralehming9641

2 жыл бұрын

@@herrickkimball Tensile strength refers to the resistance of an object to deformation and fracture under stretching load along its length, such as a rope under tension. In carpentry, the resistance of nails to pull-out is much less than the internal strength of a steel nail along its length. Screws have much greater pull-out resistance and almost always the wood will fail before the screw is stretched, unless perpendicular force is also being applied. By the time that modulus of elasticity or point of fracture become relevant, the structure has already failed. If the studs in your wall are racked 20 degrees off plumb, you don't have a wall.

This helped me so much, thank you 🙏

Thank you for the “tip”very helpful .

I like the way you sped up the second demonstration 😉

Thanks for the tips!

Awesome 👍! I love it. Thank you!

excelent professional JOB!

Excellent beginner technique.

Thank you, I had a hard time for long time 👍😊

Best ever. Thx from Sweden

Thank you for your time Very good idea

Wow right off the bat I’ll be trying this to see how accurate it is. No rough framing around here

Excellent video... Thanks!

Excellent educational video. Thank you..

Thanx for sharing!👍🏻

Same method I use, except I don't use the back up screws. Once you have the screw started and then at the correct angle, It's easy to hold the stud with one hand while putting the screws in. It does help to cut your studs snug.

Thank you!!

Piloting holes before driving in a screw is preferred when using kiln dried wood or when studs are dry (old stock that has fully dried). Most wood studs purchased from a supplier are still damp and is less likely to split when screws or nails are driven into them at ends. Using two wood shims for a stud that is too short is better since cardboard may compress over time and become loose again.

@1diggitech

2 жыл бұрын

Lol!So I guess I have to go apologize to a few guys I know that "stretch" frame all the time.🤫🤤

@simonyallop1488

2 жыл бұрын

I always drill pilot or clearance holes its just good practice I think.

@daijoubu4529

2 жыл бұрын

Those looks like to be GRK screws, they need no pre drilling

@ryanb6658

2 жыл бұрын

You guys are crazy😂 must take a month to put up a wall

@googlesbitch

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanb6658 You are correct about taking a month if a pilot hole is needed to toe nail a stud to a mud sill. Screws should never be used for framing since most of the stress are shearing and a screw will snap. Screws are used for resisting pulling forces (deck surfaces) while nails resist sideways movement (shearing) and if there is a risk of pulling forces, nails are toe nailed in two opposite sides to help resist pulling forces.

Recently was building 2x4 construction shelves in my basement, i was using a small brad air nailer to attach my boards so i could check for level and tap them to bend the brads to make small adjustments. worked pretty good!

@SandyDuff

26 күн бұрын

and then it all fell apart when things were put on shelves

That's very useful, thanks

Thank you for this.

Great presentation-keep ‘‘em coming

Great tips. Being not a carpenter this was great

When I do it, it’s like calculating the angle of entry for space x. This guy makes it look easy.

Thanks a million.

Thanks for the tip.

I toenailed all the studs in my wall during our renovation because it allowed me to adjust the studs to make them all flush across the surface. This way, the sheetrock is a lot flater and straight. It just makes it look better. This is just a tip to make your project look like a pro did it and not a DIYer. 😊 I'd also recommend getting a laser level as it will make this process a lot easier.

@Papadoc1000

7 ай бұрын

I've been working pro for decades and the one thing consistent in construction is that one guy rarely leaves something the next guy doesn't have to fix or adjust for, and that includes framers. I've also deconstructed a lot of walls and I've found that a pretty consistent characteristic over time, though I will grant that the materials were significantly better going back in time. I've harvested old used fir studs and true 2x4 roughs for future projects because they were far better materials than the pine

Excellent! Happy to subscribe.

Thank you!

Thank you 🙏

Thank you my honest good teacher

Love the video! What type size screws are those

Building a floating bench in my mud room this really helped me with the supports

Built a solid base for my chicken coop! 🦾 thanks for the advice!

With narrower studs alternating which side (room) they butt against you'll separate each outer wall which should reduce noise transmission between the two rooms, even if you don't fill the gap with wool.

Thank you

I like your drill! A lot of time saved when changing bits. What model is it? Awesome technique! Thank you for sharing.

@herrickkimball

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. It's a DEWALT DCF885 1/4" cordless impact driver. I like it very much.

Done a bunch of these over the past year during my home build but didn’t think of the first two screws to stop it moving. Had my share of splits and studs that needing stretching too.

Brilliant thanks

Thats pretty cool thanks man

I admire the guy’s courage to post it. Idiots on here that think you would ever use this method in every application show the extent of their abilities. I’ve used this method a handful of times on remodel projects when the stud length varies drastically and you have to install your bottom and top plates first and then literally measure each individual stud to frame out your wall….also very handy if you’re building a pony wall in place and are dealing with short studs that don’t “wedge” in place on the top plate. It’s a simple concept that seems to have really stumped a lot of these KZread “experts”. Haha.

@martydibergi5228

Жыл бұрын

Thank you ayn

Would you use an impact driver for this job?

@herrickkimball

7 ай бұрын

I'm using an impact driver in this video. I have a drill but the impact drill/driver is more comfortable.

I like the Milwaukee bits with the DeWalt driver... lol :)

@davem6685

2 жыл бұрын

DelWauky

Learning to be a carpenter, I was informed that proficiency in toenailing would be mine after driving 10,000 nails. I’m pretty good at it now.

@michaelrivera8561

26 күн бұрын

😂

Helll yeah Awesome Thank you so much champ Nicccceeee

You can use a piece of two by four with a single screw. When you unscrew the screw it stays in the block ready for the next stud. make a 7-inch piece cut with a chop saw, have the screw centered, about an inch and a quarter in on the opposite side of the stud line.

@gregl2249

Жыл бұрын

Great reply

@ixer76

Жыл бұрын

A steel washer helps keep that piece of wood stay useful for longer, I use it all the time.

@charleyweinhardt

Жыл бұрын

@@ixer76 My new trick is a Milwaukee 23gauge pinner with 1 3/8 headless pins, 700pins with one charge of the smallest battery

Much thanks.

Impact drills are the greatest inventions for tools in the last 2 decades.

Thank you.

Great video and information

For stretching a stud, i use layers of boxboard (cereal box). Won't compress like cardboard

@SandyDuff

26 күн бұрын

just buy a board stretcher..... they sell them at home depot

I hammered the like button like he said, but now i need a new tablet...

EXCELLENT

This guy is a genius

Great thanks 👍🙏

Mr. Kimball, thank you for making & posting this informative video. (Nice work you do). (¿Do you think a lower powered impact driver will work as well as the one you're using there, kindly?). Any comments welcomed. Thank you again.

@herrickkimball

Жыл бұрын

I think so. It's worth a try if you already have the tool. 👍

@tonyd1149

Жыл бұрын

@@herrickkimball Thank you for the kindness of a reply. God[Bible] Bless.

Good stuff!

Perfect, watched three times. I just have to ask why not put the two screws just over the line?