Luis Tiant deserves to be in the Baseball HOF ... Pointblank !

@retromaven2159

2 жыл бұрын

No argument here. I've been saying that for years. In his book on the HOF Bill James himself shows how Tiant's stats are nearly identical to those of Catfish Hunter, who is in the Hall. One more postseason and Tiant would have been a shoo-in. Darn that 78 playoff game!!

@vicepresidentmikepence889

Жыл бұрын

Luis Tiant is a three time all star and He's a Hall of Famer??????????????????

@rafaelramirez1507

Жыл бұрын

@@vicepresidentmikepence889 jack Morris has career era of 3.90 but El Tiante has era of 3.30 , Bert Blyleven is in HOF and was in 2 all-star games , but to me they both were great pitchers and deserve to be in the HOF ..... LUIS Tiant has 49 career shutouts 😮 , has more than 2,400 career strikeouts , has won 20 or more games in a season 4 times 😳 has more than 220 career wins , has been in 3 all-star games is a pretty good mark in his career too but that 1968 insane year where he won 21 with 19 complete games, led the league with 9 shutouts with a 1.60 era 😳 that year was a single season that most of HOF pitchers today can't boast about ... and you can take that to the bank

@timothy4664

Жыл бұрын

His year in 68 was unbelievable. Also I think he is the last starting pitcher to deliver a shutout into extra innings

@scottodonnell7121

10 ай бұрын

@@retromaven2159 the things that stand out for Hunter is his perfect game in 1968 and all those World Series appearances

I was 16 years old and admired both Luis and Carl as I did every great MLB baseball player. The game was filled with great talent back in those days.

@TheCybertiger9

25 күн бұрын

yeah I have to agree, back then I enjoyed watching the game, Not anymore

@thomasrastocky3871

5 күн бұрын

I haven’t watched a single pitch of a single inning since the end of the 2019 season. Politics got involved in 2020. Not my game anymore.

@donniecarver4950

Күн бұрын

Those were the days of Baseball Greats!! 😊

@innaminute523

14 сағат бұрын

A huge factor was that the great players stayed with the club for a long time. When I think of any great from that era, Guidey, Garvey,Yaz, Carew... I immediately associate them with 1 club.

What a shame! I'm sure most of us will always remember El Tiante as a Red Sox and a teammate of Yaz. 'Love 'em both!

@stevencook4002

Күн бұрын

I remember him as a Cleveland Indian.

It was great to hear the old Bosox WSBK TV-38 broadcast team of Ned Martin and The Hawk, Ken Harrelson, again!

@TheBatugan77

Жыл бұрын

I liked Ned. I'm a Yankee fan, but we got Red Sox games on eastern Long Island, and his commentary was always great.

@mikealessi7006

10 ай бұрын

I was 13 watching this in my Dorchester triple decker😊

@AMEER-114-

8 ай бұрын

​@@mikealessi7006 Triple what ? I was 9 in Norwich Ct.. Sox on WSBK tv38... absolute childhood highlight

@AMEER-114-

8 ай бұрын

I was 9 in Norwich Ct.. Sox on WSBK tv38... absolute childhood highlight

@mikealessi7006

8 ай бұрын

@@AMEER-114- triple decker is what you call the 3 family units in Boston. One apartment on top of another

Carl Yastrzemski was One of a kind 🌟

@Iambriangregory

Жыл бұрын

I like them but remember the obvious everybody is one of a kind okay? Got it?

@rafaelramirez1507

Жыл бұрын

@@Iambriangregory 😆 you are right buddy 👍

@rafaelramirez1507

Жыл бұрын

But not everyone is a special one of a kind ball player like Yaz

@TheCybertiger9

25 күн бұрын

what a year in 1967 he had, A one man wrecking crew

@maritomanelli-hp7ew

2 күн бұрын

My favorite baseball player ever

2 of baseball's greats right here. I'm a long-time Yankee fan - because my family got off the boat around 1918 or so, and NY is where they landed - and settled. So as a Kid... I was hearing all the stories about Yogi Berra, DiMaggio, etc. Thu... a Yankee fan. But Yaz is one of my all-time favorite players. What a class act, and what a player! I've got some Yaz auto'd memorabilia, and I treasure it. And Luis Tiant was one heck of a pitcher as well.

Yaz got hit 3,000 the next night (September 12, 1979). I was a kid and heard about it in Mobile, AL as we huddled around a battery-powered radio while we were getting hammered by CAT4 Hurricane Frederic.

@KnockOffBeingFat

6 күн бұрын

Thank you for letting me know. It would of been better to see the video of when Yaz got the big hit!

@jamessimms415

5 күн бұрын

Family lived in Tuscaloosa, Frederic was bad here (trees blown down, one on my late Mothers vehicle while @ work) but nowhere near as bad as Mobile.

@user-zn8kd5bx5u

3 күн бұрын

---WE were getting hammered at LSU during Frederic!!!!

@billslocum9819

2 күн бұрын

1979 was the first year they (alternately) used male names for storms. Bob was first, then David, then Frederic. The last two were both pretty bad ones.

@rick188888

2 күн бұрын

@@billslocum9819 Yeah I remember everyone was relieved when we avoided David, then a week later we weren't so fortunate with Frederic.

When Yaz was going for his 400th home run late in the season, the Red Sox played on ABC's Monday Night Baseball, and he was interviewed by Bob Uecker before the game. During the interview, a graphic was posted reading, "Career home runs Yastrzemski 399 Uecker 14."

@retromaven2159

Жыл бұрын

Hilarious 😀!!

@AMEER-114-

8 ай бұрын

And Uecker is in 90s still doing Brewers radio

@1wheeldrive751

2 күн бұрын

@@AMEER-114-announcing isn’t the same as playing. Anyone can announce. Joe Buck is proof of that.

@AMEER-114-

2 күн бұрын

Your confused about something... I dont know what though... I certainly didnt compare playing with announcing... But I pointed out that UECKER is still announcing after 50+ years... Because it's a great feat... And MORE IMPORTANTLY.. because only he & a few others remain... that have any quality of character at all... Jon Miller (GIANTS) Steve Stone (WHITE SOX)

Yastrzemski was a monster at the plate. He could hit almost any pitch anywhere in the park. I was in awe of him as a kid.

Luis Tiant should be in the HOF!!

@catbreath8361

4 күн бұрын

False

@DanielCadarette

2 күн бұрын

Definitely..El Tiante !!

Luis Tiant very underated and should be in the Hall of Fame he was great 👍

First glove I ever owned 9 years old was a Yaz model. My Dad got it for me cuz I hit a double when I was 8 years old in Farm League

@williamreitz8850

2 жыл бұрын

Now Yaz's grandson plays for the San Francisco Giants. Makes me feel really old. I guess I am.

I was at the game where Frank Robinson hit the only home run that left the old Memorial Stadium off Tiant. I was also at another game where he shut the Orioles down completely. Great pitcher with a very unusual delivery.

Poor Luis walking off with an injury after being ahead of Yaz really kind of captured his years in New York. We would see glimpses of the old Tiant, but he would have a little bad luck while things were going good and the inning would spiral out of control. His most famous moment in New York was when he threw his glove into the stands out of frustration. It's a game I remember watching.

@LionAndALamb

8 сағат бұрын

His command was perfection during that at bat too. Every pitch was perfectly placed.

Passing strange to see Tiant and Yaz opposite each other after being in the same dugout for most of the 1970s.

When I was the pitcher in stickball games, I used to do the Tiant windup. Something I had forgotten until watching this video. :)

What a wonderful time. Watching Fisk and Yaz check out the bat, priceless.

A shame to see Looooie Tiant struggle late in his career. When he was with the BoSox just a few years before, he was one of the most effective-and ENTERTAINING pitchers in MLB!

@williamchiafos3889

7 күн бұрын

Yes this was mostly his twilight era. You could tell because his trademark delivery wasn't as pronounced like it used to be. Hall of Famer in my opinion

@OldRustySteele

7 күн бұрын

@@williamchiafos3889 I agree. Tiant should be in the HOF!

@devilsadvocacy

2 күн бұрын

He was a respectable 13-8 in ‘79 win an ERA under 4. His numbers were similar to ‘78, his last with the Sox. He had slipped from those great years he had in the mid-70s but was still pretty effective

See those fans applaud as the pitcher enters the dugout? That happens no where else in baseball except FenWay. Just went to a Sox/Rangers game last September and I noticed those Boston fans were doing that then. True fans of the game and respect players.

@ynotttt

Жыл бұрын

That was 44 years ago….nobody does that now.

@TheBatugan77

8 күн бұрын

I boo the sht outta everybody. Deal

@carltonreese4854

7 күн бұрын

@@ynotttt It happens.

@arise2945

Күн бұрын

Don't you think it might have something to do with Tiant's long tenure with the Red Sox?

I'm waiting for his last at bat. Good tension builder!

@retromaven2159

2 жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert. He didn't get hit #3000 until the following evening!

Luis was a very good pitcher and highly entertaining, when he came to the Yankees and I saw how competitive he was I grew to really appreciate him.

I’d forgotten about that weird “all on the front foot” stance Yaz had late in his career.

@retromaven2159

11 ай бұрын

He had to make an adjustment midway through that 1979 season due to a sore Achilles tendon injury. Not the classic Yaz stance for sure!

Nice to once again see the catcher throw the ball right back to the pitcher after a pitch in the dirt. Sometimes it's those little things that mean a lot...😆

Watched both these guys play many of times. I was 19 in 79 and I think his career ended around 81 or 82. I also remember Yaz waving a ball fair down the line.

I grew up a Tiger Fan, had mad respect for Yaz. No one swung harder than Yaz, he attacked the ball.

My favorite Red Sox announcer, the late, great, Ned Martin doing the play-by-play.

@retromaven2159

6 ай бұрын

You are a man of exquisite taste in play-by-play broadcasters!

Seeing the great El Tiante pitching in a New York Yankee uniform ... sacrilege. But he certainly deserves to be in the HOF for what he did with Cleveland and Boston.

@diane8937

7 күн бұрын

Sacrilege my foot! He was hreatost of his career!

3 months before I was born. Incredible

I remember Yaz hit a game winning homer off Tiant at Yankee Stadium that year. Can't seem to find the video of that one.

@retromaven2159

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was a ninth-inning HR at the Stadium on June 30th. I believe it is on one of the Yaz TV specials I have from that era. If I can find it I will post it for you.

@bstnd3

2 жыл бұрын

@@retromaven2159 Thank you so much! He pulled it inside the right field foul pole. I was at the game the next day when Eckersley gave up the 5 HRs and Jim Rice picked up Jerry Remy like a baby and carried him off the field.

@rafaelramirez1507

Жыл бұрын

@@bstnd3 love them ... Yaz Rice, Eck ,and Remy pure gentlemen with class 🌟🌟🌟🌟👍

@bstnd3

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's so sad that Jerry is no longer with us. Great ballplayer, announcer and gentlemen

I've never seen Carl Yaztremski bat like that . He always held the bat High and behind his head

I was in 10th grade and living in Massachusetts in 1979. I was probably watching this live on TV. Yaz was a huge fan favorite. Even so, they would show a funny clip of him on TV sliding headfirst into 3rd and coming up a few feet short, and then getting gently tagged on the head as he looked up to see what was going on (comically with his helmet tilted down over his eyes). If someone has that play on video, please post it! Thanks!

Tiant is a real competitor. I loved watching Looie Tiant wind up and pitch. I don't blame Tiant for leaving the Red Sox in 79 and going with the Yankees. The Red Sox knew Tiant was a free agent in 79 and they didn't want to pay him what he's worth. The Yankee organization doubled his salary and he made a nice chunk of money in those 2 years with the Yanks. God bless him. That's free enterprise at work for ya!

@retromaven2159

Жыл бұрын

We'll never know if the Sox would have matched the offer. The Yankees put the contract in front of him and told him if he left the room to try and use their offer as leverage they would withdraw the offer. It was take it or leave it, and Tiant took it. Yet another reason to despise the Yankees

@nightowl5475

Жыл бұрын

@@retromaven2159 Well, that is pretty low down. They should of let him take the offer home with him. That's more or less, an ambush. What do you think? I think Boston could of matched the offer. Look what they did to Mike Torrez! Sure, Boston easily could of matched the Yankees offer, 2 years @ $330.00 thousand a year! Boston needed it's pitchers to have a healthy minimum 4 man rotation. I think that is how Steinbrenner does business. He buys up all the talent. The Yankees had utility players just sitting on the bench. Those same guys would be playing every day on other teams. Take a look at Sparky Lyle, in 1977, he was the first relief pitcher to win the Cy Young award. He helped bring the Yankees to the World Series. The following year in 78, Steinbrenner signs up, Rich Gossage, the best closer in the game. Even today, when Clevland or Detroit beats the Yanks, I'm happy because baseball has learned to survived. The Bo-Sox and the Orioles are the only thing standing in the way of the Yankees winning their division. Plus it always backfires when the Yankees think they can buy a pennant.

@retromaven2159

Жыл бұрын

@@nightowl5475 Tiant was one of Boston's emotional leaders and the Yankees went for the jugular to rip out the Red Sox' heart. And, it worked. The Sox wouldn't hit the 90-win mark again until 1986. Welcome to the Red Sox-Yankees rivalry

Those at the fens that night, were one.

Yaz is the man.

@Iambriangregory

Жыл бұрын

Yes is a man like everybody else good points better points and lesser points

In our backyard wiffle ball games, my friends and I would imitate El Tiant's exaggerated wind-up.

@carltonreese4854

7 күн бұрын

And Yaz's odd stance!

I just realized Yaz wore his batting glove on his left hand -his top hand. Most batters wear it on their bottom hand.

Now, that’s how an umpire should get behind a catcher!

The Yankees in those days used to pick up one of our stars every few years, sometimes after they’d passed their prime. Look at Yaz’s stance: far different than earlier in his career, when his bat would poke straight up in the air like a telephone pole until he started his swing. Here his torso leaned forward and his bat was parallel to it at a slant. I miss seeing that big red 8 on his back; late in games when we were behind, seeing that 8 meant we were still in it.

Luis promised to take me golfing at a certain golf course only to find out he wasn't a member.

~El Tiante~ Us Old Timers remember the days......

A legendary matchup!!!

I was born 4 months later. January 1980

My childhood idol ….i wore # 8 in LL ….how much his stance changed in time

Just a little over a month after Thurman Munson was killed in the plane crash. Hard for me not not to think about while watching this. So what happened when a new pitcher was brought in and what was the final score ? Thanks.

I’m a lifelong Phillies fan, but I watched a lot of other baseball in the 60’s and 70’s, and it looks weird to see Tiant in a Yankees uniform….

i dont recall yaz having such an odd stance ?

Willie Randolph was in a series of commercials for some product I forget which.

I must have missed something. What the hell happened. I didn't see know 3.000th hit!

Was lucky to work with Yaz such a good guy.

Yaz is my favorite player of all time!!!

Carl Yastrzemski was amazing! But there's a cool story about him honoring a teammate in college that very few people know of. The man's name was Everett Hart. Yaz said that Everett was a better hitter than him in college but ended up not playing in the pros! My Dad went to elementary school on Long Island New York with Everett whose nickname was Bubba. I'm not sure of the full reason why he didn't go pro but my Dad said Bubba was an AMAZING multi sport athlete.

well that was certainly a burst bubble wanting to see the milestone hit.

Wow, that's a stance of Yaz's that I don't remember.

@retromaven2159

4 ай бұрын

He was forced to change his stance midway through that season due to a painful Achilles injury. Hence the hunched-over crouch....

@FerdinandCesarano

4 ай бұрын

@@retromaven2159 - Ah! Thank you for the information.

@retromaven2159

4 ай бұрын

@@FerdinandCesarano My pleasure!!

Not a Red Sox fan anymore ( to many bandwagon spoiled entitled pink hats) but 3 of the best in new england sports history right here Tiant, Yaz and Martin, should say 4 because the Hawk belongs well.

@kinggavs

2 жыл бұрын

Nedley is a hof announcer for me. Didn't talk non-stop. Curt Gowdy, Ken Coleman, Hawk, Jim Woods, John Miller, Remy are some of his co-workers

@briandelmore7188

2 жыл бұрын

@@kinggavs if forced to pick my favorite would have to say, but outside of the red sox Santos and Bob wilson along with Chief were great as well.

Love both of these guys BoSox

WTF, this ends with El Tiante exiting??? What about Yaz's at bat?????🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

El Tiante did a book signing at a local bookstore, just before Covid hit. He told a great Yaz story. Luis said he struck out Yaz the first time he faced him ~ then called him a "Dumb Polack!". Next time, Yaz hit a HR off him. Luis said, but I told him, "You're still a dumb Polack!". 😂🤣😂

I'm 63 and played Little League in the late 60's early 70's. Still have my Spalding Carl Yastrzemski model baseball glove. Just sayin....

Looks like one of Yaz's 3000 different stances. 😂

My idol❤

The big red machine blew him off the mound.

"luis now has unloosened a little bit since the first inning."

the last worn number 23 before donny came along

When did El join the Yankees?

@retromaven2159

Жыл бұрын

The Yankees signed him to a 2-year contract as a free agent prior to the 1979 season. The story is the Yankees' GM brought him into his office, put the contract in front of him and told him if he left the office the offer would be null and void. Tiant,, now knowing if the Red Sox would counter, took the deal. Is it any wonder why Red Sox fans HATE the Yankees???

@TheBatugan77

Жыл бұрын

​@@retromaven2159 So... Why didn't Boston make him a better offer? I know it's fun to hate the arch-rival. But Luis pitched his heart out for the Sox. Why didn't they show him some respect?

@retromaven2159

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBatugan77 The short answer is the new Red Sox management did not fully embrace the new free agency era and didn't throw money around like the Yankees and Angels were doing. They gave Tiant what they thought was a fair offer given his age, and then the Yankees gave him the take-it- now-or-leave-it offer. This didn't allow for Boston to make a counter offer, so Tiant ended up in pinstripes.

@diane8937

7 күн бұрын

79?

it seems a sin to see Tiant in a Skankees uniform.

I didn't know Luis Tiant went to the yankees...a little bit before my time

TIant was a Yankee???

We been Punked!!!

この年にヤストレムスキーは史上15人目の通算3000本安打を達成しました。ア・リーグ所属の選手では史上初の通算3000本安打と400本塁打の到達者

Technically he wasn't wearing pinstripes though... road unis...

@sergeantmasson3669

2 жыл бұрын

Daniel King, Yankees only wore pinstriped uniforms at home games and in all-star games.

Back when pitchers had actual wimdups & could easily do 9 innings. They dont teach windups anymore, and pitchers are lucky to go 6 innigs before blowing out an elbow....

@carltonreese4854

7 күн бұрын

They don't blow out elbows; they are just kept from going that far because of the commitment to pitch counts over the course of 162 games. I don't like it any more than you.

"YAZ"

Too bad Luis went to the Yankees.

GREAT PITCHER

21 years before 9 eleven

Yankees wearing the black armbands after Thurman Munson's tragic death just a little over a month earlier.

That's when baseball was great and America's game. Now, woke politics and rule changes have diminished MLB.

I’m 69 who rembers yaz bread

I wish the Red Sox put nameplates when they lost a heartbreaker in ‘78.

Not to say this's anticlimactic but, when the "highlight" of the vid is a groin pull...uh, anyway. 😴

That sucked FTW?

anticlimactic

Yaz was washed up here

@retromaven2159

Жыл бұрын

Actually Yaz suffered from a bad heel injury the 2nd half of that season and his hitting really fell off. He rebounded to have some respectable years afterwards

Yaz has such a fucked up stance. He was lucky to have played in Boston. Very overrated.

Yankees will always be 1st and Red Sox 2nd.

WTF

Love Luis. He should be in the Hall of Fame. I really liked the Hawk and Ned Martin.

@retromaven2159

10 ай бұрын

No argument here! Hopefully some day...