We had the tropen and D4 issued in the Dutch army...together with the Carinthia hooped bivi ...it is a very warm combo...I'm a hot sleeper so I still using the tropen till around 0 degrees Celsius..

Thank you.

recorded 2020 in 360p? Good content but video quality could be better, take is as constructive criticism not just complaining. Been looking for a good Tropen vs Defence 1 video and this is the best I found.

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

Don't take it as offence, but maybe constructive criticism: if you don't want to read all the comments to see if some's already noticed and there's an answer, or get the year right, perhaps a little more thought is required before hitting the enter button. We're not here to make blockbuster films. It can be kind of fun to do these but there's a significant consumption of time, funds and other resources to do them. We'd rather put that into better serving our customers. Also, check the pinned comment on the MIG 4.0 video. Thank you for the postive comment about the important stuff, the content of video. 🙂

For many people, we're finding Carinthia is "new" brand although it's been around almost 40 years, and 14 years in Australia. Yes, that long. Here's a link to Carinthia's timeline that will help explain their origins and history. Don't forget, the parent company has been operating since 1948. about-carinthia

Great video pal. Could you tell me what the small tabs are for inside the defence 4? I can’t see any matching tabs on either the Defence 1 or Tropen.

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, great question! Answer is they are fro securing the Polly-Cotton Liner that is available as an accessory. Not a very popular accessorie as you can use a grizzly and it really boosts the temp rating. Thanks for getting in touch!

Really want to see the next video about liners.. but since its a year ago, i assume that won't happen?..

@premierdefenceagencies8145

Жыл бұрын

Cray, it will happen. Our videogrpaher is a serving LE officer and Reservist, so the poor guy is pretty busy. We have plans and so much to do but like eveyone else... it's the time. We do plan for some short brutal vids from Enforcetac and IWA in the next few weeks.

Hi For a three to seven day camping in a mountainous region, would you recommend the Tropen + Bivy Bag, Tropen + Defence 4 or Tropen + Defence 4 + Bivy Bag.

@premierdefenceagencies8145

Жыл бұрын

Hi A R, the choice depends on the expected temperatures and conditions that you're going to experience on the trip. And don't forget, you will need some extra temp range in case of enexpected bad weather. Without knowing where you're going and when, we can't offer you any advice on bag or combo selection, but you should be able to choose something to suit using historical data for the travel area at the time you're going.

@Fortress_mentality

Жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 what about a location like the Brecon Beacons

Thanks Damo. Any chance you're wearing UFPro pants?

@premierdefenceagencies8145

3 жыл бұрын

For the first time this week, it's trakkie daks!

@rpm6085

3 жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 In the video?

@premierdefenceagencies8145

3 жыл бұрын

@@rpm6085 In the video, yes. In lockdown, not today!

Can you combine the Tropen with the defense 1?

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jay, the answer is yes and no. Yes, because you can shove any bag inside or outside another, but no, depending upon wether there is enough room for you inside, once they're together. When a two-bag system is made, the outer bag should be made with a greater circumference so as to fit around the inner bag, without crushing the insulation. As you'd be aware, if you crush the insulation, it doesn't insulate. Carinthia haven't tried this combination and tested it so there is no themal rating for this it and adding the ratings won't give you an answer. Really, the only way to find out is to give it a go. Hope this helps.

@jaywalker5561

2 жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 Thank you for the reply. I'll just have to give it a go 😎👍

@fallyn2920

Жыл бұрын

@@jaywalker5561 my defense 1 does seem rather roomy, but that lessens when using the grizzly liner.

Do they ship to the USA? I can’t order off they website

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

In the USA, Eberlestock are to dealer. Best to contact them.

@ilooklikeme7106

2 жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 they don’t have any Carinthia gear on there website

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilooklikeme7106 Thank for your patience, I needed to check with Carinthia. Eberlestock sold Carinthia under it's own brand (re-branded) and you're right, they are not selling it now. No idea why. You can order from www.coolkit.com.au and get shipping to the USA. I hope this helps.

@ilooklikeme7106

2 жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 thank you they ship. Do you know if there are any other us distributors they are charging 550usd for the mig 4

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilooklikeme7106 I know of no other US distributors. US sales is a tough gig with a strong local industry and support from the customer base, although so much "Made in China" gear is still sold there by various brands. Cool Kit pricing will be in Australian dollars, not US, so that jacket is around US $400 after sales tax is removed and postage added. Follow the checkout path and see what you get. You can always abandon the cart when you get the full pricing. ;-)

Isn’t the Tropen designed to be inside the defence 4?

@RealMash

2 жыл бұрын

yes.

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

HI GadgetMart, the Tropen is a stand-alone bag made for hot-tropical conditions with a large temp variation. It does fit in the D4 and Carinthia sell Tropen and D4 as a system, but as far as we know from speaking with Cairnthia, it's not specifically made for bag-in-bag use. The main reason they put the two together is that with a center zip and side zip, it reduces the heat loss from having both zips located together. If you ever use the US Army bag-in-bag system, you'll know how painful the double zips are and that it causes a cold bridge. Hope this helps!

@GadgetMart

2 жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 I have the Defence 4, it’s a great bag. I’ve just got the FECSA British Army modular sleep system for my G/F that does tie together. (Defence 4/Tropen copy)

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

@@GadgetMart Carinthia stuff for UK MoD is usually to their spec and will vary from the military-off-the-shelf gear. That will be a great combo!

@patrikiden

2 жыл бұрын

Text copied from Carinthia sleepingbag catalog: SLEEPING BAG SYSTEM (TROPEN + DEFENCE 4) The system consists of the two sleeping bags described above. Considering the low weight of the system (approximately 3 kgs in total), it guarantees unbeatable thermal performance with minimum packing size and weight. The Defence 4 serves as the outer sleeping bag and the Tropen as the inner sleeping bag. Both bags fit into the compression bag of the Defence 4. This combination of a centre-zipper outer bag and side-zipper inner bag provides maximum comfort in extreme conditions. The inner sleeping bag also serves as a liner bag. It is easy to wash and dries quickly. There is no need to wash the complete system.

Centre zip bag…genius can’t stand the side zip 👍

But why, why why don’t they ship to the US?! I love the look and performance of them. They look like my grandfathers old WWII bag. Anyway I’m sad.

@premierdefenceagencies8145

Жыл бұрын

HI William, As of this year's SHOT Show, there is a new UD Distributor for Carinthia www.us-elitegear.com It's jackets for them at the moment but get in touch and ask them to get you the sleeping bag you want.

@AlexanderHonsVonEber

Жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 oh wow ok I will! Thanks;) I’ve been researching companies that import from Germany so far I found a couple that sound legit and reliable. Will reach out to Elite as you said first. Thanks so much for the fast response , cheers brother:)

@premierdefenceagencies8145

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderHonsVonEber Go through Elite. Warranty issues are actually rare for Carinthia but you likley won't get it if you don't go through approved re-sellers, and always support local!

@spencercupit

Жыл бұрын

Eberle stock is this bag. They buy it and rebrand it

@ianmurray4081

11 ай бұрын

There’s a Finnish Company, Varusteleka that carries these bags and they ship worldwide.

I am 6 feet tall and weigh 170....could I get away with the regular smaller size with the defense 1 ?.....thank you

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, At 6ft, you are 183cm and should fit the 185cm limit of the regular bag. The question is your shoulder width. The bag is good for around an 82cm shoulder width, with the actual edge-to-edge width being 85cm. So, shoulder width and how loose or tight you want the bag are the defining factors in size selection. Hope this helps!

@michaeldumas4907

2 жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 ok thank you very much

@michaeldumas4907

2 жыл бұрын

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 ok just checked i am 66 cm so should be good to wear a light synthetic puffy if needed I think...im sure my hips will be fine.....thanks for your response

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360p in 2021? Oof...

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 жыл бұрын

KZread decided that was what it was going to be. We'll get aorund to re-uploading it in higer res. Unfortunaltely, we'll loose the comments when we do.

7.5 mins in we randomly start talking about the Defence 4 ? Classic case of not reading/watching your content through properly before releasing it. Which is especially un helpful when your recommending / advising people on purchasing a potentially life saving survival tool. Less sales waffle! More simplified advice for Australian camping please.

@premierdefenceagencies8145

2 ай бұрын

HI George, thanks for watching and commenting. We try very hard to satisfy customers with information and are quite surprised that you don't want to know that both bags will work with the Defence 4 to provide an extreme cold bag system, with the felxibility of covering a vast range of conoditions. Nothing random about that, and being that that's an important fact in the decision process, we scripted it into the video. If you want to be told what you should buy so you don't need to think about it, or expend any effort in making a decision, just tell us where you want to go and what time of the year and we can tell you which of our sleeping bags to buy. Otherwise, feel free to tell us the content you want to hear, how the features should be included, explained or excluded, and how you want it related to Australian conditions and what those conditions are. On the "Australian Conditions" note, please feel free to list the brands and products that you feel relate best to Australian conditions. We're always interested in the views and experiences of others and use them to help shape our products and offerings. Thanks again for watching and participating in the coments.