Well,... I've just bought the 20th anniversary edition and it has the river and abbot included. About the abbot, it clearly says: "You may place a meeple in the regular way (not on the garden)." (from Dutch) So that means you cannot place a meeple on a garden, only the abbot. The way you seem to play it makes the garden exactly the same as a monnestry. It's seems to be a small difference, but it's not: now there is a much bigger incentive to remove the abbot on time so you'd not miss another garden opportunity and you have to be more decisive when you place an abbot on a monnestry for a short time or a meeple that's there until it's finished.

@JebusSunrise

10 ай бұрын

true? wow. nice fail. lol

Well done Jess. Nice to see you guys having fun together.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching buddy! Jess was so happy she won! We will be playing Point Salad very soon 😁 Thank you for your donated game!

What a great family game. We've just started playing with my 5 year old. I was looking for a clear video to bring the rivers expansion in, but current considering the abbots after watching this. keep up the great content.

What a lovely family :) Thanks for the video

There are several carcassonne playthrough videos on youtube, but yours are my favourite.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

Wow that's a really kind comment! Much appreciated 🙏

Glad I looked this up before I played too many games lol. I knew I was playing with a few things wrong XD And now I know what they are :) Thank you for the simple explanation!

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

You're more than welcome! I'm glad it helped and I hope you enjoy your games of it in the future. The only note I have is normal meeples cannot take gardens. Thanks to a poorly translated rulebook in the big box edition, we got that bit wrong. But the rest checks out. 😁 Thanks for watching!

@jacobisaac8258

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, yeah. I read that comments thread cause I was wondering the same thing too lol

not only did she win but Jess should of got more points, when her peace was not freed up, for getting the small cities.

Great video, very informative 👍

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching :D

Thanks for the video, it says in my rules that the normal starting tile is removed when the river expansion is used, and also i thought the river couldnt go in a u shape like you have it, it should essentially flow north to south from the start to end, although will have some turns left and righ?

The actual reason that I was watching your video is that I was curious about the added value of the river and I'm stil not sure what it does to the game... At least it forces the layout in a shape so that it becomes a bit harder to play, I guess. By the way, we always follow the rule that you have to respect the edge of the table, and you will never move the entire layout to a more suitable pace.

at 4:43 you made a mistake because you put a river that turns twice in the same direction

@iwantdog

7 ай бұрын

Where else could they have placed that? I believe that rule only applies to tiles which have the river bending left or right…

Nice Jeff i just bought this game yesterday and i dont know that garden can be place any meeple or abbot

@rjmunt

3 жыл бұрын

Only abbots can be placed on gardens.

Chci se zeptat..muze byt klaster umisten hned vedle dalsiho klastera ci kostela? My to hrajeme,ze nesmi a ani diagonalne.

Hi, can you clarify a rule concerning the starter river expansion please. I understand that if you use this expansion, the original starter tile is removed from the game, but you kept it in. It probably doesn't matter but I want to avoid disagreements when playing with others. Also, and you might have been asked this before, can you extend farmland around the end of the spring and lake? My pieces look slightly different to yours and they look like they want to prevent you from doing this. Perhaps later additions have been redrawn to give a clear green space around them so that farms can extend around them. What do you think?

Just a small error you made at 7mins 10secs.you placed a meeple in a garden, this is incorrect.you can only place an abbot in a garden.abbots go in monasteries or gardens.meeples can only go in monasteries. However,you could have placed(as per rule book)a meeple on the garden TILE,for example,in the field of that tile,but not in the garden.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

Hey there. Thank you. Yeah someone pointed that out in another comment and we did our research. It isn't very clear in the rulebook but we found the answers 😁 Thanks for watching!

@awakecommonman5291

3 жыл бұрын

@@allaroundtheboard think the vagueness of the rules come from it being translated from German,leaves it all a bit ambiguous . Like your channel, my boy is 9 and loves board games,so he likes to watch other families play together to help him understand rules etc👍

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

That's excellent! I'm glad your boy is into games, they're so good for social development and modern games are very fun! What are his favourite games so far? 😁

@awakecommonman5291

3 жыл бұрын

@@allaroundtheboard he is currently really enjoying the 1910 expansion mega game of TTR(taught his grandparents how to play it this weekend!),he also loves Latice,Carcassonne and Sequence.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

Great fun games!! And I'd forgotten about Sequence, that's a classic!

Red could have taken her Abbott back because the monastery is surrounded. Score 9 points and take the Abbott back instead of skipping.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think we spotted that later on in the video :)

@pengyang4352

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. He finally caught it at the end. I noticed it while the game was going and commented. Red kept passing, and I was like, you could take that Abbott back and placed it on a Garden or something. But Red still won. So its all good.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

@@pengyang4352 It just shows how good red done when with or without the 9 points, they still won...also shows how terrible I am at the game 🤣

This was a great video, thanks, I've bought this for our Christmas boardgame, my daughter is 6 and a half and I think from looking at your daughter she'll be beating us all the time 🤣

Why don’t you take the fields with a farmer?

Can farm fields cross rivers?

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

They cannot I'm afraid :)

@VoyagerGC

3 жыл бұрын

@@allaroundtheboard where exactly is that stated as a rule?

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

@@VoyagerGC Hi. The farm only wraps around the end tiles but the river does divide the farms exactly like the roads do. I shall find the definitive answer for you but I'm almost certain this would be the case.

@VoyagerGC

3 жыл бұрын

@@allaroundtheboard I couldn't find that. the logic dictates the same, still... there is no mention about this. as a guide rule for the game.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

There is an official response about the end lake tile and that the same farm does wrap round the lake. The other response I found was talking about a farmer can take "either river bank" which suggests they are two separate fields. Thirdly, another response talks about treating the river as if it were a road dividing. Most ambiguous yet as you say, logic would state that. I personally would find Farmer scoring very confusing if fields did cross rivers so I would almost WANT this as a house rule even if it wasn't official. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the rest of my Carcassonne series 😁

Interesting, on the PC version gardens can only be used by abbots!

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

How strange. I can't show a picture but here is the rulebook text regarding the gardens: When you place a tile with a monastery or garden, you may either place a normal Meeple or your Abbot Meeple. If you place an Abbot, you must place it on the monastery or garden you placed. Basically, abbot's can't be used for roads and cities but normal meeples can take gardens and monasteries 😁 Thanks for watching. I'll have to try out the digital version at some point 😁

@saltyonion8131

3 жыл бұрын

@@allaroundtheboard I don't think you can put a meeple in the gardens, just underneath the text you have put there under 3. scoring the abbot, at the bottom it says. As you can see, gardens are scored exactly like monastery, with the exception that only an abbot may be placed on them. It does kind of look like it contradicts itself.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm how bizarre. I shall take another look. Because the 2. Section doesn't suggest only abbot's can be played on them because normal meeples can be placed on monasteries :)

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

In my rulebook, that section under 3. just talks about how an Abbot works, it doesn't say anything about only abbot's can take gardens. I have the Big Box of Carcassonne so it is quite a hefty rulebook.

@saltyonion8131

3 жыл бұрын

@@allaroundtheboard Think i have found it, if you take a look online www.zmangames.com/en/products/carcassonne/ go down to the pdf CARCASSONNE SUPPLEMENTARY RULES its got it there

I still don't get abbots. Please explain, somebody! In the instructions in the box, under 'The Abbot', in 2 it states you may place either a meeple or abbot on a monastery or a garden (just as he says in this video). Then in 3, it says only an abbot may be placed on a garden.

@JustanamebroDK

3 жыл бұрын

The Abbot is an optional rule not originally in the game. So i figure if you don't play with the Abbot (which you're allowed to retract and score points for any turn you choose not to place a meeple), then you can also play with gardens just by using meeples.

@awakecommonman5291

3 жыл бұрын

Just a small error you made at 7mins 10secs.you placed a meeple in a garden, this is incorrect.you can only place an abbot in a garden.Abbots go in monasteries or gardens.Meeples can only go in monasteries. However,you could have placed(as per rule book)a meeple on the garden TILE,for example,in the field of that tile,but not in the garden.

@spiromac25

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Rose, In case the answer is still not clear, the rulebook was a little confusing. When placing a tile with a garden (or monastery) you may place a meeple “as normal” that means following the regular rules of placement (which in this case would not include the garden itself, just the other features around it, perhaps the tile also has a city on it). the abbot has the additional ability to use the garden itself. I hope I made that clearer and not more confusing.

If you play with the River expansion, you don't use the normal starting tile

meeples cant go in gardens

@allaroundtheboard

11 ай бұрын

yeah I get it thanks

You went a bit fast when scoring at the end.

@allaroundtheboard

3 жыл бұрын

Apologies. I will keep this in mind for the next video! Thank you 😁

This guy doesnt know what he is talking about. A normal meeple cannot be placed on a garden.

@allaroundtheboard

Жыл бұрын

Yeah we realised this after due to a mix up translation in our rulebook. Said rule was updated in the latest rulebook and since know the correct ruling of the gardens :)

Farmers FTW.