Caravans have issues: you are locked into sites, which are expensive - add up all the bills for a year and the questions arises: Why have a caravan?

@davidlewins4631

Ай бұрын

If you need to ask that, then you are probably not ideally suited to a caravan. We would rather have the style of holiday freedom it provides. I can't imagine spending our holidays it any other way! Certainly not using a hotel for starters!

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

It's like everything, if one thing worked for everyone we would all be pretty boring. Very true though, if you don't get the use then a caravan isn't worth it. So it's not for everyone 👍

@G-ra-ha-m

Ай бұрын

@@thecaravanplace I would appear that a combined caravan sales and camping ground would be the solution. The clubs don't help - they manage to be more expensive than private grounds - and therefore useless. Perhaps the problem is the councils, restricting where people can stop and where small sites can be located. But the reality is that when a hotel is cheaper than the whole caravan scenario, you're going to lose customers.

@fluffycotton4683

20 күн бұрын

Why? when the majority of Motorhome users have their partners follow them in their SUV’s, mind boggles.

@G-ra-ha-m

20 күн бұрын

@@fluffycotton4683 Many motorhome owners would be better off with a decent car and hotels !

All dealers watching this would agree with your thoughts.. Ps I’m just a caravan owner that agrees. Have a good one Mark and all the best to you and your crew for 2024.

We thought about buying a caravan ,but we found they were too expensive. We have decided to book a holiday abroad as its not just the caravan price but also the site fees and servicing costs which have gone through the roof. Rip off, britain is back. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comments 👍

Simple economics Mark. What goes up comes back down. It was always gonny happen.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

This is very true. 👍

Hi Mark , my view is a van is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it . I am in the market for a new MH. I have got 3 PX prices from 3 dealers for the same van , same spec for delivery in early 2025 . We have a difference of over £22000 on the valuation of our PX between the 3 dealers . Absolute madness ! If dealers PX allowances crash then I think Mr Joe Public just won’t be able to afford to find the cost to change. Many dealers have used stock which stands them in at high money . New vans are now being discounted and stock availability has softened. I worry some dealers are in a very vulnerable position at the moment . Cash is still king and dealers need turnover and profit to survive . Just my view and experience of what I have found in the last month or two in our search for a new MH .

@mrmeg01

Ай бұрын

Its still and always be a buyers market as you have found well done on 3 value ations m8 take the best and the other 2 dealers will miss out

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

This could be the problem with caravans soon, there won't be a true benchmark 👍

The market in Australia has been in a nosedive in the last 12 months, we bought our Swift 654 last year for 50K AUS and they were selling in a few days, I could buy the same van now for 40K, all the Covid purchases are flooding onto the market.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Similar to the UK and US now I believe 👍

When looking at caravan’s, have found prices are more expensive in the South West. You seem to get more for your money up your way.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

We get a lot of people travelling from the south and say prices are less in the north 👍

@craiglawton1248

Ай бұрын

@@thecaravanplace I don’t know if ,I would be worried. If I was a smaller independent dealer or up beat about it. As you could out do the bigger dealers on second hand caravans, but not new caravans?

If price comes down on trade in then prices will have to follow on new ones ,people will sell more privately on used and then go and get reduced prices on new because they won,t be selling dealers already wan,t to buy low and still sell high I will certainly keep mine if they do you can already see it this year on how long they are keeping in stock . Biggest piece of advice is take a reasonable profit or you will kill the mouth that feeds you and that includes all businesses

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Yes it's definitely a move in the market and we all have to move with it 👍

Hi, As caravan owners we had a trip to our local dealer over the weekend to buy some essentials. While we were there, we had to have a look round and could not believe the reductions on 2024 vans upto 7k, however we did notice that this was mainly on elddis 😮. Is this a reflection on the market or the brand 🤔. Agree with previous comment a van is only worth what you will pay for it as a dealer or what we would pay for it as a buyer. Market now saturated so bargains to be had.

@davidlewins4631

Ай бұрын

While I agree with the general principle of it being worth what you will pay for it, I would modify the statement & say it is worth what someone else would pay for it! For example if there was van at 25k & I feel it is only worth 20k but someone offers 23k it is going to be theirs. The vans that will have the most value drop will be the ones that have hung around for a while & therefore not as appealing. Would you want it either? However it pans out it'll be interesting.

@Pes60

Ай бұрын

Elddis are bad the plastic cracks and splits.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Yes it's now a buyers market for sure. You can be picky and have the choice which is what buyers have been waiting for 👍

So in a nutshell dealerships are going to try and rip you off on a part x

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

No some just won't have a clue or won't want certain models.

@G-ra-ha-m : So wrong. Caravan owners are NOT tied to caravan sites/parks! A group of my mates can be found NOW camping for 1 to 9 nights (whatever is best for them) at a Temporary Holiday Site (THS) at Corbridge in Northumberland (lovely village a short walk away, pubs, Roman remains etc with market town of Hexham nearby) - cost of £10 per unit per night. Rugby clubhouse (loos!) 50 yards away and Cricket Club (loos again!) not much further. Hardly an expense! And next weekend it's a farmer's field at Grinton next to the River Swale (literally over a bridge to the village pub) and a short walk to Reeth, and the week after that a weekend in a field literally next to the entrance to the shared NT/English Heritage site at Fountains Abbey and Studely Royal (World Heritage Site) near Ripon - again £10 per unit per night. That could be a couple or a family with 3 children etc. How can that be thought expensive...? Ignoring the 4 week Beadnell THS on the Northumberland Coast later in the summer (100 yards from the beach, 2 fields from the Camping Club Site, 0.5 mile to Beadnell village, 2 miles to Seahouses & another 3 or so to the wonderful Bamburgh with its castle etc, and Alnwick with its castle and gardens & the fishing village of Craster (kippers!) nearby. Once you have your van & towcar, weekends & holidays are almost free. You'd spend £10 a day at home! Like carrying a mobile hotel and plonking it where best suits you ...

Dangerous territory not to have a bench mark. Exploitative chance for greedy dealers

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

It's going to be interesting for a while that's for sure. 👍

Wet summer, cost of living, prices are only going one way and it ain't up.What a bull shitter, tell it how it is.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Thanks Jon.

as a motorhome dealer who hasn't looked in the guide fir motorhomes if they even still have one fir 15 years uts about time the caravan trade followed suit, its an archaic system and only sort of worked fir caravans as there are so few variations and the trade weirdly stuck to it so closely . Not overly hard to use hiur brain to work out where things should stand and as with motoehomes some will be worth more to one dealer than another

If the Glasses Guide is trying to keep prices artificially high, the Government will go after them for Price Fixing

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

They have never tried to keep prices high, they have tried to move with the market, and are about right now. 👍

I can see vans being overpriced and on the forecourt much longer!.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

It's going to be a mix for sure.

We'll be coming to see you in a few weeks, we're looking for a two berth

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

We have a few in at the moment 👍

Looked at trading a 2021 van for another model a month or so ago. We have air con, movers and E and P fitted and the value was no different to a standard van, “ there is no value in extras, they just make a van easier to sell” was the response. Not sure where the Caravanning game is headed, no new ICE cars will mean older towing vehicles bing in extended use as adequate EV battery tech is still decades away, despite all the wild claims that have been made for many many years now, so towing heavy caravans or anything more than short distance trips will just be too much hassle. This is undoubtedly going to be a key factor affecting prices. Seems like our van and tow car will have to see us out of our caravanning ventures, not for a while yet though.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

It's always a difficult one with extras as some will value them and some won't, we find movers are something a big proportion of people want and so adds value. 👍

Put my views across a few times, i just cant justify getting back into caravans with prices as they are and greedy site owners as compared guaranteed sun of 2 foreign holidsys per year. Many fridays my wife and i work after 7pm on friday and back to work before 6am monday, weekend use just wouldnt happen

Looking back its weird how a cold type flue affected caravan prices .mental .

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Didn't it just, sent everyone mad!

@timwright5466

Ай бұрын

@thecaravanplace it's a good we are normal !

When you say glasses guide is out. Do you mean under price or over price.One thing is certain part ex will be marked down.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Right now glasses guide is about right on price for caravans , but previously they were way to low, and motorhomes prices were out, and too low.

If prices come down you'll get less for your part exchange

@Technocrat.

Ай бұрын

People need to stop making everything a stock market. That's why we can't afford homes cars etc. Everything is up for bid to the highest bidder or payee. Greed Hurst everyone in the end, because even the greedy will have to pay through the nose. Inflation will go so high that you need a truck load of cash to buy a loaf of bread. No house should cost more than 100k . To build or to buy. End the stock market scam.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

It's not so bad if you have a van as it should all be relevant 👍

Things are only worth what people are prepared to pay .

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Very true 👍

7.26, Sid Barrats ghost is back.

@michaelmcleary8566

Ай бұрын

I'm sure I've seen him down Arnold Lane!

glases guide used to be top notch on cars but now dealers only go with these webuyany car valuations

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

I know a lot of car dealers now work from retail and then back to trade, similar how we will try to work. 👍

@gw493

27 күн бұрын

They go with caps

This is a nonsense there is an alternative to the book already been trialled by some of the trade....no panic required ...the new book will replace the old one much like cap replaced glasses in the car trade

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

There is a alternative that has been in the making for about 5 years. So only time will tell if it actually works out 🙈

Dealers will give you little for px and charge you full wack even though you bought it off them previously,

@castlequay2327

Ай бұрын

i hadnt accounted for VAT on my new caravan when asking how much i would get for it part ex.....worth bearing in mind.

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

I think anyone who purchased in the last 12 months will find this as prices crashed. But what you buy should be a lot less than 12 months ago too.

@gw493

27 күн бұрын

Dealers are dealers greedy bar stewards

why do you just walk into a caravan nudge the cushion and walkout to another one and do the same again you could just sit in the office and tell us all your dealer problems

Hi Mark, just noticed your hair has grown back quick?😂

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

I will have to get it cut again 🤣🤣🤣

Mark, why isbthe guide going? Personally i dont think things will change really, as most dealers, just know the values. As you say the guide is just a guide, North will give more for better sellers as will the South. Surely?

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

Yes each dealer will be slightly different but should be around the same in general, the price has become unsustainable and glasses lost a big section of the Motorhome dealers so it's not worth them carrying on unfortunately.

Why do you think the glasses guide is no more, because its useless, if your a dealer of any worth you dont need no guide and as far as a px goes, i know what price i want when i view a newer caravan and so if i dont get it i walk away simple

@thecaravanplace

Ай бұрын

It's nice to have a general bench mark, so will be interesting now 👍